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(DIR) Post #ADcwQ6XZRMUriZbjV2 by katie@mstdn.io
2021-11-21T13:33:41Z
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If them #SARS-COV-2 #vaccinnes work so well, how is it thatthat as of today, in November 2021, 100% of all COVID cases in #Australia are #vaccinated people?oh it's not just that the injected get it, btw. the odds of getting it if you're injected is 2x higher. I can only speculate how that translates to other illness since I don't have any data, it's one of those things I'd like to know but don't
(DIR) Post #ADczc9SUiTP46cfYq8 by Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com
2021-11-21T14:09:31.285800Z
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@katie But don't worry, when they die, the situation could have been worse if they hadn't been jabbed.
(DIR) Post #ADd0LUf6jGjutlBpGS by bgp@mastodon.online
2021-11-21T14:17:39Z
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@katie the usual has 93 deaths per 100000 people; Australia has 0.75 deaths per 100,000 people. Breakthrough infections do happen, but as you can see, having a population with much higher vaccination rate (85% fully vaccinated) leads to less death. https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-case-numbers-and-statistics
(DIR) Post #ADd0OSS1PFbMuSTyPg by bgp@mastodon.online
2021-11-21T14:18:12Z
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@katie the US has 93 deaths per 100000 people; Australia has 0.75 deaths per 100,000 people. Breakthrough infections do happen, but as you can see, having a population with much higher vaccination rate (85% fully vaccinated) leads to less death. https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-case-numbers-and-statistics
(DIR) Post #ADd0Ry4qHGalrhJXY8 by Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com
2021-11-21T14:18:53.163160Z
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@bgp @katie You're really comparing Australia to the US and calling the jab the difference?
(DIR) Post #ADd0taMm1kAyR4s2BU by waifu@waifuism.life
2021-11-21T14:23:51.466538Z
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@Zerglingman @bgp @katie he can't see you zerglingman :akkoWhut:
(DIR) Post #ADd0xWEjK6iqmmz3WS by Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com
2021-11-21T14:24:35.285970Z
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@waifu @katie @bgp federation go brr
(DIR) Post #ADdA05vIVmaLdHCIZk by aztekm30@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T16:05:53Z
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@katie@mstdn.iThey do correct the numbers later in that clip. And it is several months old now.
(DIR) Post #ADdCKLh1mzXUF3JC4W by katie@mstdn.io
2021-11-21T16:31:56Z
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@bgp The vast majority of new cases in areas with large injection populations are "breakthrough infections", except there's not really any such thing since the "vaccines" don't provide anti-bodies or anything else that would protect you to begin with.As for deaths, it's far more useful to compare the death rate of the injected vs the healthy, preferably in age-groups, than to compare how many people happen to die in various countries.The injected are dying at higher rates in age-groups <60
(DIR) Post #ADdLJuaDTxNxkWzNKq by bgp@mastodon.online
2021-11-21T18:12:41Z
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@katie so suddenly that looks like uk data; weren’t we talking about Australia? Also, you assume that vaccination status is the only independent variable. It is entirely possible that the higher rate of infections in the vaccinated group is due to increased exposure— such as in groups of physicians, nurses, taxi drivers, etc etc etc. those over 60 aren’t in the workforce as much as the younger groups, which actually supports my point. With less Covid exposure, vaxxed groups die less.
(DIR) Post #ADdLJwMSs3ZdGSZQB6 by bgp@mastodon.online
2021-11-21T18:12:41Z
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@katie you are right that vaccines don’t provide antibodies— those are generated by your immune system in response to its recognition of a novel protein; in this case, the spike protein created when your body synthesizes the vaccine mRNA. Then, your body creates antibodies to that spike protein.
(DIR) Post #ADdM9p5h9Ce1m2SxAe by bgp@mastodon.online
2021-11-21T18:22:04Z
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@katie also, run your analysis with the “deaths” column and not just cases, and see what you get.
(DIR) Post #ADdMPqruJ2EVv7eygK by bgp@mastodon.online
2021-11-21T18:24:58Z
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@katie also, your numbers involve “cases” but your post is about deaths, which is not what your data is about (those red numbers are in the cases groups); run your analysis with the “deaths” column and not just cases, and see what you get, then we’ll talk about whether or not you are on to something.
(DIR) Post #ADdMau7AZqSNAp4L4a by bgp@mastodon.online
2021-11-21T18:26:55Z
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@katie so suddenly that looks like uk data; weren’t we talking about Australia? Also, you assume that vaccination status is the only independent variable. It is entirely possible that the higher rate of infections in the vaccinated group is due to increased exposure— such as in groups of physicians, nurses, taxi drivers, etc etc etc. those over 80 aren’t in the workforce as much as the younger groups, which actually supports my point. With less Covid exposure, vaxxed groups die less.
(DIR) Post #ADdMf2YJ9EH8V7jcum by bgp@mastodon.online
2021-11-21T18:27:43Z
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@katie so suddenly that looks like uk data; weren’t we talking about Australia? Also, you assume that vaccination status is the only independent variable. It is entirely possible that the higher rate of infections in the vaccinated group is due to increased exposure— such as in groups of physicians, nurses, taxi drivers, etc etc etc. those over 80 aren’t in the workforce as much as the younger groups, which actually supports my point.
(DIR) Post #ADfEWI43h6Nyggp4Vc by katie@mstdn.io
2021-11-22T16:05:55Z
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@bgp the spike protein isn't what infects you, it's a toxin created as a by-product after you're infectedthus, what you're arguing is that you get the same toxic effects you get with a COVID19 infection (which is why reported side-effects are, to a large degree, similar to a COVID19 infection) but you get absolutely zero protection against infection (which is probably why the injected are infected at higher rates)
(DIR) Post #ADfNJT5WISW8hQT12e by bgp@mastodon.online
2021-11-22T17:44:26Z
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@katie this is incorrect. The spike protein is a coronavirus surface protein. Vaccine makers have created mRNA vaccines that teache our bodies how to detect spike protein by getting us to synthesize it temporarily (the mRNA vaccines); our immune systems then detect the spike protein and learn that it needs to be eliminated; then, if coronavirus enters our bodies, our immune systems recognize the spike protein and eliminate it and whatever is attached to it (the virus).
(DIR) Post #ADfNJUoDtjs02MOEMK by bgp@mastodon.online
2021-11-22T17:44:27Z
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@katie the spike protein is a key part of the infection process: it binds to a cell surface protein called ACE-II and after it binds, the cell brings the virus into it; if we can block the spike protein (through antibodies) then we can prevent it binding to cells. So, the spike protein is actually _the key_ to coronavirus’ infectivity.