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(DIR) Post #ADc2zwlDgTaQNVVR8C by yishengqingwa666@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T02:49:19.053225Z
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NOT ALLL MEN--SORRY, "TRANSFEMS", THO. SAME SHIT, DIFFERENT DAY. đđ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/tranny-sideshows-on-social-media.33028/post-10521018
(DIR) Post #ADc2zxODLUmKKRkZua by juneseed@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:05:49.345197Z
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@yishengqingwa666 âWomen speaking out against male harrassment, and men harassing women is the same garbage fire!!!â Those tifs are peaking. PEAKING I tell you... Everytime I see this exact same scenario, where it becomes so obvious that it doesnât matter what you call yourself youâre still a product of your sex (even to these so called ânon conformersâ) it was the same thing that peaked me. Male violence from these âwomen,â male perversion from these âfemmes,â and all the while the true women and girls are told to shut up, take it in silence, and never speak out against your sacred âtrans wimmansâ. Peak, peak, peak. I for one welcome more Spinster users and detransitioner voices!
(DIR) Post #ADc3b20H9cehLxEQHQ by Jar@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:19:25.082007Z
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@juneseed @yishengqingwa666 Someone go there and dm them https://newthoughtcrime.com/Say it explains concerning dynamics in the trans community or something. This document helped me right when I was questioning things and some tras were trying to convince me that I was non-binary. Completely peaked me.
(DIR) Post #ADc3iskVRgPMy4bCoS by Jar@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:20:50.146003Z
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@juneseed @yishengqingwa666 Someone go there and dm them https://newthoughtcrime.com/Say it explains concerning dynamics in the trans community or something. This document helped me right when I was questioning things and some people were trying to convince me that I was non-binary. I think my reddit account is unable to send dm for some reason.
(DIR) Post #ADc42m6nqNs2AHVvFY by sunspot@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:24:25.373817Z
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@Jar @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 lol I know the thread they're discussing too. Internecine fights among the TQ+ are common but this one has legsWould you ladies be interested in some tea? đ
(DIR) Post #ADc48nKWDTTJgpndui by Jar@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:25:31.084231Z
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@sunspot @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 I mean every group has its arguments and sure
(DIR) Post #ADc49VtSWvZ5twUAU4 by juneseed@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:25:26.474560Z
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(DIR) Post #ADc4ZewhUqKNVPT95U by Hollahollara@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:30:22.348196Z
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@Jar @sunspot @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 REFUSE THE TEAhate everyone silentlyCelebrate?
(DIR) Post #ADc51DgqQU6P58C78q by sunspot@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:35:20.950717Z
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@Hollahollara @Jar @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 No, drink tea. Itâs delicious while hot Hereâs the original thread with a wordy meme and even wordier manifesto in the comments. This led to passive aggressive callout posts by TiFs and TiMs that spilled out into other trans subshttps://www.reddit.com/r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns/comments/qxhmta/my_open_letter_to_traaa_addressing_the_ugly
(DIR) Post #ADc5PlOMm5fQYZFqe8 by Tiggy@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:34:01.426630Z
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@juneseed @yishengqingwa666 lol fuck tims helped tif teenage me peak for the exact reason. I kept getting pissed off that the "girls" just acted like the weirdo loser kid in class who likes furries a bit too much and the fact that the "guys" still just acted like the non t girls I knew in school. It was all too fucking blatant that the scrotes were perverts and the girls were trying to run from something.
(DIR) Post #ADc5UBCSlMx3kznD8K by sunspot@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:40:35.128888Z
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@Hollahollara @Jar @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 i know this post can be taken as incendiary, and for those who have done a little digging, you might notice this is a burner account. i do not feel comfortable posting this on an account i typically post on this sub from, because i donât particularly want to be banned for this. regardless, enough is enough. i am breaking my silence, and iâve brought with me staggering evidence.over the past few months, a vocal minority of transmasculine and nonbinary individuals, including myself, have noticed the staggering demographic disparity in this subreddit, and how it has started to damage transmasc and nonbinary people here. i am acting alone, but i wholeheartedly am reinforced in my belief that i am not the only one who believes these sentiments. what tipped me over the breaking point was a post made last night by u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown revealing that he had been receiving unsolicited DMs from transfeminine individuals requesting for his body parts, and additional comments on the post revealed that he was not the only one who had received this treatment. As this is harassment, i am pleading that you all stop and consider that this has gone too far.i understand that i have made several claims aside from this one, and i will now try to deconstruct them for you. i owe you a truthful, accurate and concise reconstruction, and i do so wanting to acknowledge that not only is this not an attack on the majority of folks who have refrained from acting in this way, but that i am also immensely grateful towards anyone who has helped to call out this behavior where it is seen. to you, i say this: your efforts make this sub a safer place for everyone. regarding that, i will now begin to pick apart r/traaâs issue with transmasc and nonbinary exclusionism.the root of this problem comes from two ugly places: the misconception that reddit is a primarily transfeminine space, and the outright misinformation about the transfeminine vs transmasculine experience. first off, reddit does not have a noticeable population bias towards trans women, but there is one in shared spaces. r/traaaaa has roughly 288,831 members at the time that i wrote this. judging outwardly, the assumption is that traa is majority transfem, and so the transfem and transmasc-specific spaces must reflect this, yes? this is untrue: r/mtf hosts 132,143 users and r/ftm hosts 130,283, less than a 2,000 user difference. r/nonbinary is even more crowded, hosting 140,202. r/traa is not predominantly transfem because of lack of population available; if it were, numbers would reflect this. so why are transmasc and nonbinary voices being drowned out?and drowned out theyâre being. through memes that silently insinuate that the trans community is compromised solely of transfem culture, through disparaging comments of âcan we tradeâ, âyouâre goalsâ or even demanding we be grateful that we donât go through x or y, or even by outright hating men and refusing to acknowledge how that impacts us, as u/TheToasterWaifu reflects. And itâs not as if weâre being silent either.The thing is, time and time again, when someone is doing something that they canât see the consequences of, and someone else calls them out on the damage theyâve done, they donât like it, and push back. White fragility is an excellent example of this, which also finds itself on this sub, but iâll get to that later. People on this sub have posted memes publicly antagonizing us for speaking out against this behavior. And it is damaging: u/mfgoose notes in the linked comment that âI think itâs because [non-transfems] see some posts that just say âhey ladiesâ⌠âŚand are confused and distraught cause theyâre in a trans space. Then they see posts like this one which just makes them feel more excluded.â it is pushback like this that blames us for our own exclusion that is harmful, and it is backed up by misinformation that has persisted in trans literature for 20 years.
(DIR) Post #ADc5X2rMEFpkl5Hrwu by sunspot@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:41:06.034295Z
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@Hollahollara @Jar @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 this misinformation is the assumption that trans women have it worse and that transmasc and nonbinary invisibility is privilege. u/RoninandGeisha posted an excellent write-up deconstructing this myth on r/asktransgender. iâve linked it, but for those who are disinterested in reading even more long posts, iâll do my best to paraphrase.trans women do not âhave it worseâ. in fact, a study was done in 2011 by FORGE milwaukee about the statistics of discriminatory violence against trans individuals that revealed trans men were actually more susceptible to violence than trans women. (cw: this article discusses violence, abuse and SA. read at your own risk.) for those stats, paraphrased: âTransgender women experience violent crime at the rate of 86.1 per 1,000 people, and transgender men experience it at a rate of 107.5 per 1,000.â this heavily conflicts with julia seranoâs definition of transmisogyny, a definition we still hold to to this day, which notes that âtrans female/feminine individuals tend to bear the brunt of societal fascination, consternation, and demonization in considerations of transgender people.â u/RoninandGeisha continues to note that this false projection that transfem individuals have it staggeringly worse contributes not only to a lack of desperately needed resources for transmasc individuals but also the fact that we are ignored or even accused of having privilege, which is laughable. as a trans man, i was in much more danger out of the closet than in, and my perceived masculinity shatters once i am discovered. the fact of the matter is that ignoring the 2011 FORGE study is a fatal failure and has lead to r/traa and the greater trans community as a whole excluding and isolating transmasc and nonbinary people in favor of lauding an outdated presumption that we are in no need of a safe space. we are, and the study proves that.however, it doesnât stop there. the startling lack of intersectional awareness in this space has also edged along other lines. users have called out racist and offensive sentiments spread towards trans people and cis people of color, and the responses have been less than stellar. additionally, the âi used to be a nazi/i almost was a naziâ sentiment spread further makes r/traaa a worrying place for people of color and religious minorities as they are faced with the very real assumption that other users treat such an idea flippantly instead of with the seriousness and accountability it deserves. i cannot speak for those hurt by this as i am not part of these unique groups, but i present what i have found to open the conversation and center their voices too, as they are also being excluded.so what does this accomplish, putting this forwards? i donât know. honestly, i expect to have this account banned from the sub and this post removed. but if it isnât, i can only ask that we work together as a community to make r/traaa and the trans community as a whole more inclusive for transmasc, nonbinary and transfem folks alike. we all deserve that much.
(DIR) Post #ADc6S5Uz5aYpRx1RdQ by Jar@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:51:24.489580Z
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@sunspot @Hollahollara @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 Damn thatâs a really amazing essay. I hope the transmen realize that they donât have a be treated this way. And Iâm looking at sub and the response seems to be mostly be telling them to just be nice and stop stop talking stop talking about it stop talking about the problem. But it looks like theyâre also continuing with calling out creepy behavior in meme format. #Transmen metoo moment? Really rare to see this? Iâm happy for them.
(DIR) Post #ADc6SDv9mAFXZRKSXY by juneseed@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:48:02.568756Z
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Of course âheâ is a woman, this is so so messed up. I did see this in the final stages of being involved in gender ideology/âtransâ spaces though. Nothing had changed of course, because vile men donât change.@sunspot @Hollahollara @Jar @yishengqingwa666
(DIR) Post #ADc6lZGYdgnFH1YyrQ by juneseed@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:53:29.345034Z
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@Jar @sunspot @Hollahollara @yishengqingwa666 Hopefully itâll lead to a greater understanding of this experience, that gender identity and ideology does not override the truth of reality. Male violence and domination, no matter what we identify as, we never escape it.
(DIR) Post #ADc6mCF9ipqS9yCuae by LaylaAlexandrovna@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:54:12.923965Z
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@sunspot @Hollahollara @Jar @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 This is pretty much what we expected when men started to pretend to be women and vice versa. :ablobspin: There are no good answers to this except for everyone to go back to being who they were before the self-identifying and that ain't gonna happen.
(DIR) Post #ADc70ZQeJfSI7dRAhs by sunspot@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:57:38.334650Z
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@juneseed @Jar @Hollahollara @yishengqingwa666 Sheâs very close to getting it. She knows âtrans menâ donât have male privilege. She knows TiMs are asking for nudes from them which is typical of men harassing womenJust one more logical, little stepâŚ
(DIR) Post #ADc72mMTCiW0oLXGiG by ThemysciraSteel@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T03:55:00.010238Z
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@sunspot @Jar @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 Always
(DIR) Post #ADc7cTnbhC9FfMFgki by Jar@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:04:29.831239Z
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@juneseed @Hollahollara @sunspot @yishengqingwa666 Yes, transmen often are unable or afraid to have this discussion in the open, much like other females are. So itâs really incredible to see this being discussed to a wide audience. Either things will change for the better, or they will be met with rage and told to be quiet. Hopefully this will help a lot of them, even just with standing up for themselves, regardless of the outcome. Transmen are our sisters, they deal with the things all females/afab do, even if they reject femaleness, Iâm supportive of them on this. Really cool to see this thanks.
(DIR) Post #ADc80LQkShFmf2wKbA by sunspot@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:08:47.935949Z
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@LaylaAlexandrovna @Hollahollara @Jar @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 "TQ+ movement ends as men detransition because trans movement gets their own version of feminism"Come on. You know that's possible in đ¤Ąđ
(DIR) Post #ADc8VNaAVjzoJQ91Oq by LaylaAlexandrovna@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:13:40.753493Z
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@sunspot @Hollahollara @Jar @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 No I don't know that's possible! 𤥠đż
(DIR) Post #ADc93AjUn9GkJ1cYIS by sunspot@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:20:31.254181Z
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@LaylaAlexandrovna @Hollahollara @Jar @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 The TiMs are the ones who enforce and fund the movement. Nothing makes men desert a cause faster than women demanding representation 𤣠âWhat? We canât claim transmisogyny is a thing anymore?? Time to put the spinny dress awayâWhat a state of affairs
(DIR) Post #ADc9sI9Gynqw4f3NwW by Jar@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:29:45.854922Z
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@sunspot @juneseed @Hollahollara @yishengqingwa666 Some screenshots of the various responses. It looks like they tried to mass report the transmanâs post about harassment in the community but the mod kept it up, calls to just be nice, calls for more moderation against trolls, and âactually amab enbies have it worseâ, and afabs saying for them to âstop telling us to be quietâ. Absolutely incredible.
(DIR) Post #ADcA25o1iy7Ygpn0Eq by Hollahollara@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:31:32.000805Z
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@Jar @sunspot @juneseed @yishengqingwa666These people cannot speak about their trauma or upset beyond stupid IDs. đ
(DIR) Post #ADcA7UiyVO8BQB0CNE by yishengqingwa666@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:32:18.285142Z
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@Jar @sunspot @Hollahollara @juneseed Men bullying women and trying to shut them up, as per fucking usual. The mental gymnastics are fucking absurd.
(DIR) Post #ADcAD6hajTneef20X2 by yishengqingwa666@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:33:26.748369Z
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@Jar @sunspot @Hollahollara @juneseed "TrAnSaNdROpHoBiA" đ:ablobspin:đ
(DIR) Post #ADcAQ0lU7OGC0P0PfU by sunspot@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:35:51.457974Z
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@Hollahollara @Jar @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 Can't you see they're fighting for the soul of*checks notes*a trans meme subreddit? Of course they're upset
(DIR) Post #ADcAa7EWvJS4xlPRqq by Hollahollara@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:37:40.945089Z
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@sunspot @Jar @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 I donât know why, itâs a mystery, but I would rather fight over wypipo traffic enforcement on Spinster than worry about psychotic trans vs. trans.Actually, it makes me sad. Truly.
(DIR) Post #ADcB78XR5nrmZAzx0y by Jar@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:43:38.154362Z
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@sunspot @Hollahollara @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 Ps apparently the user who posted this essay was then harassed off the subreddit by more threatening dms.
(DIR) Post #ADcBGnaJqt5WTZxDAe by Jar@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:45:23.874869Z
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@sunspot @Hollahollara @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 Ps apparently the user who posted about the harassment originally, was then harassed off the subreddit by more threatening dms.
(DIR) Post #ADcBe7b1cGqBCVPC1g by Jar@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:49:35.830389Z
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@sunspot @Hollahollara @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 Apparently the user who posted about the harassment originally was then harassed off the subreddit by threatening dms. :blobcatoh: :blobnotlike:
(DIR) Post #ADcCEGxWHbOgfEAIiW by sunspot@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T04:56:08.366995Z
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@Hollahollara @Jar @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 Donât be sad or worry. TiF/TiM clashes happen practically hourly in the TRA spaces. This one caused a lot of drama and the OP can craft an argument but the content isnât that different from the usual fights they have
(DIR) Post #ADcCkLsfWGLVCAC0nY by Jar@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T05:01:56.542900Z
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@sunspot @Hollahollara @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 Idk Iâve read this sub in the past but Iâve never seen this discussion get so much attention before
(DIR) Post #ADcD8CBvCDwq5sZG0O by Jar@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T05:06:15.303863Z
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@yishengqingwa666 @Hollahollara @juneseed @sunspot Theyâre trying to describe whatâs happening now as transmisandry. Trans-hatred of men. Or hatred of transmen I figure if they can at least try to describe whatâs happening thatâs a positive. They arenât allowed to use the word misogyny there.
(DIR) Post #ADcDFMoa62gn4M4OuG by sunspot@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T05:07:32.879868Z
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@Jar @Hollahollara @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 Like I said this one caused a lot of drama. The essence isnât different though from the quarrels on trans Twitter or TumblrI have my suspicions for the other major factor behind her post but I donât want to make Holla upset
(DIR) Post #ADcDJN6Cyu996qDyoS by Jar@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T05:08:16.038963Z
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@yishengqingwa666 @Hollahollara @juneseed @sunspot Theyâre trying to describe whatâs happening now as transmisandry. Trans-hatred of men. Or hatred of transmen.
(DIR) Post #ADcDVZccFRGtQHCXHk by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T05:10:14.483374Z
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@Jar @yishengqingwa666 @Hollahollara @juneseed @sunspot They have internalized misogyny. They're women - with internalized misogyny towards themselves. They're not men. They can't be hated as men. TIFs fear & hate their own female bodies. This is not how any of this works.
(DIR) Post #ADcDxX8n49j5puaCXI by MenstrualMinstrel@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T05:13:58.439213Z
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@Tiggy @juneseed @yishengqingwa666 all of this should definitely be archived. it'd be good to have a collection of links and screenshots showing how tif and tim interactions are just like the interactions between women and misogynist men who aren't trans identified, and that no one can escape this bullshit by identifying out of womanhood.