Post ADX7dmNOWJhybgErGy by kev@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #ADVHKdL4MJ2EWseodc by kev@fosstodon.org
2021-11-17T20:50:03Z
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Well this is a (pleasant) surprise!#Applehttps://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/11/apple-announces-self-service-repair/
(DIR) Post #ADVHf1UgGDlnEisL6e by joeligj12@fosstodon.org
2021-11-17T20:53:49Z
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@kev indeed, but just like adding ports to their laptops, its something they should have done from the start...
(DIR) Post #ADVK9SSclMQFT6YOkC by lasombra@fosstodon.org
2021-11-17T21:21:46Z
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@kev Now we need to hope that a repair doesn't cost 2/3 of a new device đ
(DIR) Post #ADVKJF9p4x3H6ZQSDA by kev@fosstodon.org
2021-11-17T21:23:23Z
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@joeligj12 better late than neverâŚ
(DIR) Post #ADVRfvAsEzZlT5g5om by mike@libertynode.net
2021-11-17T22:46:04Z
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@kev itâs a huge deal. Iâm very curious to see what parts pricing looks like, though. And whether the existence of the program will influence design decisions.
(DIR) Post #ADVUKMlZH3cOXCFqvw by Coneng@fosstodon.org
2021-11-17T23:15:45Z
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@kev probably it will be cheaper to repair at apple than buy the manuals, tools and spares đ
(DIR) Post #ADVbys5cvsv0wetm52 by TheFreePenguin@fosstodon.org
2021-11-18T00:41:31Z
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@kev apple the next day: SIKE!
(DIR) Post #ADVqq04Kxyu9BIlvIu by mike@fosstodon.org
2021-11-18T03:28:05Z
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@kev Yea, I'm not super surprised. Apple has a history where they take away ports and charge you for the adapter you need because they took away the port. All they're doing here is saying that customers will have ACCESS to tools and parts. No word on how much those tools and parts are going to cost the consumer (and believe me, it's Apple so it WILL cost). Also, there's no mention of what self repair will do to the warranty. I'm assuming it's null and void after a self repair.
(DIR) Post #ADVqz3ggsjv70i1yTI by Mundon@fosstodon.org
2021-11-18T03:29:40Z
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@mike @kev
(DIR) Post #ADVvcc9967lczeSQyG by Logical_Error@fosstodon.org
2021-11-18T04:21:35Z
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@mike @kev Louis Rossmann made a great video about this:https://youtu.be/2jCtVDCiY_8
(DIR) Post #ADW9Nekkb6wtbn94fQ by kev@fosstodon.org
2021-11-18T06:55:50Z
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@mike well i should assume that if the warranty is in place, folk would get the repair done under that instead of paying.Itâs undoubtedly going to be expensive, but itâs progress nonetheless.
(DIR) Post #ADW9hMn95SxJh5fF3Y by atyh@pleroma.atyh.cc
2021-11-17T23:04:01.642802Z
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is it? I swear. people love the master when he only beats them two times rather that 10. they canât beat the right to repair legislation and the lawsuits, so their solution is to monopolize the emerging repair market by making you do it in their space, with their tools, so they can limit independent business.
(DIR) Post #ADW9hNLt0IkFQpuzCq by kev@fosstodon.org
2021-11-18T06:59:18Z
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@atyh i donât think thatâs what is happening here. The independent repair businesses are thriving now even without Apple parts.By Apple doing this, repair businesses could potentially offer genuine repairs (at a premium of course to cover additional costs) but this is definitely progress.
(DIR) Post #ADWvTYfybg5CIOCL5M by mike@fosstodon.org
2021-11-18T15:54:46Z
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@kev Depends. Apple is probably still going to jump to "replacement" before "repair" as it exposes them to less liability. When Apple wants "replace" and the individual wants "repair", there's potential for overlap. This happened to me and my wife when we owned iPhones. My wife's phone just turned off and never turned back on. We took it to the "Genius" bar, and they replaced the phone, but we lost weeks of pictures of our infant son. "Repair" wasn't an option, but I would have preferred it.
(DIR) Post #ADX7dmNOWJhybgErGy by kev@fosstodon.org
2021-11-18T18:11:04Z
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@mike yeah, maybe youâre rightâŚwe will have to see. đ¤ˇââď¸
(DIR) Post #ADXJvqeOZBF4WdZaRE by monkey1@fosstodon.org
2021-11-18T20:28:36Z
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@kev @mike Louis Rossmann reminds us that the scope of the program is important. Is it just batteries and screens? How granular will components be available (e.g., whole top lid vs. being able to replace just the screen).The onus is on Apple to prove that they care about right to repair.
(DIR) Post #ADXKAvHhcTePF19ANU by mike@fosstodon.org
2021-11-18T20:31:27Z
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@monkey1 I think it would be great for customers if Apple is serious about this, but I have very little faith that they are committed. Honestly, I think it's just a bunch of hand waving to hold off regulators. If anything useful actually comes of this, I'll be shocked.@kev
(DIR) Post #ADYB7XJw5VpsncLty4 by danielfgom@mastodon.social
2021-11-19T06:24:40Z
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@mike @kev First thing you should install on any phone is Google Photos and setup auto backup. You'll never lose a photo again.
(DIR) Post #ADYFXifWroMRzZBBWS by kev@fosstodon.org
2021-11-19T07:14:16Z
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@danielfgom @mike yep. Youâll just lose all your privacy ro Google instead. đ
(DIR) Post #ADYGvLxV3QFcShQ06i by mike@fosstodon.org
2021-11-19T07:29:48Z
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@danielfgom Well, our personal experience predates Google Photos, otherwise not horrible advice. We actually auto-backup to our Synology now.@kev
(DIR) Post #ADYx7DizgpXgTTyUHQ by danielfgom@mastodon.social
2021-11-19T15:22:30Z
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@kev @mike True but no large tech company offers true privacy. Google, Apple, Amazon are all the same. They all collect the same data on you. But there aren't many private services offering the same level of service. Sadly.
(DIR) Post #ADYxDRbYzqx9GDT0Hw by danielfgom@mastodon.social
2021-11-19T15:23:35Z
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@mike @kev Oh bummer. No way around that then. Ironically Apple probably thought they were doing you a favour by replacing the phone...
(DIR) Post #ADZD34YNRdwg8f3KRk by kev@fosstodon.org
2021-11-19T18:20:57Z
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@danielfgom @mike Iâd rather go without. My self hosted Synology syncs everything I need without adding Google juice.
(DIR) Post #ADb09tUiBlYK7hsOIa by lewlepton@mastodon.social
2021-11-20T15:05:57Z
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@kev wow. they must have stopped smoking crack