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 (DIR) Post #ADNUz93aIft4N48r2G by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T02:45:38.673197Z
       
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       If I have to, I will port ENS to Ubiq blockchain and make a .fedi TLD. Then it will be trustless and cheap.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNV3oZ7uhpwGa7cp6 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2021-11-14T02:46:28.167211Z
       
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       @Moon hire Quinn to write a DNS resolving proxy :cirno_sip:
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNVeP1vogU3mh2ebA by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-11-14T02:53:04.720317Z
       
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       @Moon I think what ENS really needs right now is traditional DNS entries like A, AAA, and CNAME.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNVq7mTm55tlIP4wi by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-11-14T02:55:11.667298Z
       
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       @Moon Focusing on IPFS and Tor only is trying to solve too many problems at once. If we just solved the domain name problem, it would help increase adoption of blockchain domains. Then we could use them to solve the IP address problem.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNW4mxvRpMVY1kYUK by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2021-11-14T02:57:51Z
       
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       @alex @Moon The only problem is email servers, XMPP servers, fedi instances, etc having to configure their DNS settings to federate with the servers on non-ICANN domains.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNW7fBYpY28HrUxSC by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T02:58:22.734573Z
       
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       @alex I can simulate  them, use the URL field for CNAME and it's possible to encode both an ipv4 and ipv6 IP address simultaneously in the contenthash field.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNWG6Gc1fpcayssRE by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-11-14T02:59:53.570519Z
       
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       @xianc78 @Moon The fact Brave already supports ENS by default is extremely promising. We can just tell users “use Brave to access our site.” Win-win. If they’ve already solved it there, we can solve it on the server level.But we need to be able to point ENS at an IP address for any of this to work.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNWOE1T4fBYxxfto0 by yes@social.handholding.io
       2021-11-14T03:01:23.083358Z
       
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       @alex @Moon lokinet
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNWQq7QPACxhLhwa8 by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T03:01:19.540398Z
       
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       @alex @xianc78 the unfortunate thing is that ENS has a URL field but not an "ip address field". in another post I mentioned that I can still do it, but I am 100% sure that Brave wouldn't recognize it.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNWRp7BcfGKsH47BA by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T03:02:01.921500Z
       
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       @alex @xianc78 I don't understand what they were thinking when they made something that they wanted to work similarly to DNS but doesn't map to DNS at all.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNWawWDStzsRW7a8O by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-11-14T03:03:38.931360Z
       
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       @Moon @xianc78 Yeah, same.If we solved it in Brave, they would merge it. ENS+Tor support was created at a hackathon.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNWcJRBjrTroXQGbA by fluffy@social.handholding.io
       2021-11-14T03:03:55.454001Z
       
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       @yes @alex @Moon can i buy handholding.loki rn
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNWg5LG5VmBFuRpqK by yes@social.handholding.io
       2021-11-14T03:04:36.751351Z
       
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       @fluffy @Moon @alex check it via whois.loki
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNWvHwNWpBkfp3mU4 by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T03:07:20.446312Z
       
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       @alex @xianc78 I guess nothing is stopping me from proposing to them how I see it working. Basically, the "contenthash" field supports a super-flexible format that, typically is only used for IPFS CIDs, but can also hold a binary format that contains both an IPv4 and IPv6 address simultaneously. I've been investigating this precisely because I want to close the gap and make ENS useful to us. Right now the official ENS website can only put IPFS and Swarm URLs in there.The field wasn't meant to hold an IP address, but the format they used supports it so I am gonna pester some people to see if they think it's a good idea.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNWymwuhBYPiJylwe by yes@social.handholding.io
       2021-11-14T03:07:59.504287Z
       
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       @fluffy @Moon @alex dogpenis.loki is open
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNX70ltBllitokAZE by fluffy@social.handholding.io
       2021-11-14T03:09:28.276577Z
       
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       @yes @Moon @alex oh niceeven hh.loki is available
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNXCtFa45nlJJR1No by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-11-14T03:10:31.095428Z
       
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       @Moon @xianc78 Please do. This is probably the most important problem concerning NFTs and the Fediverse and you’re right at the center of it.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNXHeyoY8GgV1roLQ by guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info
       2021-11-14T03:11:22.331818Z
       
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       @Moon @alex @xianc78 Mapping to IPs seems so obvious that I suspect there's a reason it wasn't implemented
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNXL8D6KORg1bCkxk by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T03:12:00.960902Z
       
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       @alex @xianc78 well shit, when you put it that way I can't just let it drop. I guess I'll do it for sure, then.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNXQAhMVM2JBnlKRk by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-11-14T03:12:55.112471Z
       
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       @guizzy @Moon @xianc78 I think the thought “too centralized, we’re literally overhauling the whole internet.” I just don’t think it’s an effective tactic.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNbGIrngCtdRaC8TQ by raphael@mastodon.communick.com
       2021-11-14T03:52:54Z
       
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       @guizzy @xianc78 @alex  because each update now would cost about $200+ in gas fees?@Moon how about Solana? The Brave people are all pimping it now, I'm sure they would love to see ENS-on-solana.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNbGJOPiwz54jSBJA by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T03:55:54.575215Z
       
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       @raphael @guizzy @xianc78 @alex would require a from-scratch implementation, I don't think Solana is Ethereum VM compatible
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNdm2qayVMIw3tWBU by raphael@mastodon.communick.com
       2021-11-14T04:09:29Z
       
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       @Moon @xianc78 @alex @guizzy you're right, it is not.I thought you meant by porting that you would rewrite the contract. Don't know much about Ubiq.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNdm3SWhThSphdoJ6 by raphael@mastodon.communick.com
       2021-11-14T04:23:21Z
       
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       @Moon @xianc78 @alex @guizzy Looking into https://app.ens.domains/faq and it says that yes, you can add IP addresses to the record, but "there aren't many third party tools and applications which resolve IP addresses attached to ENS."So as long as your server doesn't change your IP too often, you should be good.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNsozzRYMjcFrtq64 by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T07:12:43.967638Z
       
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       @Moon and ill learn how to webdev
       
 (DIR) Post #ADNssh4fp5zCkP6kXg by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T07:13:24.016748Z
       
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       @alex @Moon i wish they would let me use my 100 year eth domain for legit use cases
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOjUUXQ4o6MUGtkY4 by silverpill@poa.st
       2021-11-14T17:01:22.796462Z
       
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       @alex @xianc78 @Moon ENS has centralized governance so if it ever gains wide adoption it will likely suffer from censorship too. Also Brave browser doesn't run local ethereum node, it just uses eth.link gateway from Cloudflare. So it's even less censorship resistant than DNS but much more fragile.I think if you want full control over your name, there's no real alternative to public-key based name systems like .onion
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOjWcgWl1oqKkAt4S by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2021-11-14T17:03:15Z
       
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       @silverpill @alex @Moon Brave is controlled OP like just like Mozilla. Their BAT is centralized as well.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOjcV3U2OSqPLiMO8 by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-11-14T17:04:18.027453Z
       
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       @silverpill @Moon @xianc78 Good points but these are things that can be fixed.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOjdbVrVtZKj3Vz3w by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-11-14T17:04:31.044346Z
       
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       @silverpill @Moon @xianc78 DNS can’t be fixed.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOjgumGLRUlLHlTaS by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T17:05:08.118115Z
       
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       @silverpill @alex @xianc78 I don't think the contracts have backdoors in them to revoke names but I haven't checked closely.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOlHSsD9chzT5XV8i by silverpill@poa.st
       2021-11-14T17:19:56.807600Z
       
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       @Moon @alex @xianc78 I think they can prevent you from renewing your name. But they promise to not "unfairly discriminate against name owners’ ability to extend, transfer, or otherwise use their names" in their constitution docs.ens.domains/v/governance/ens-dao-constitution
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOmDpBoLE8fTaXEzg by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T17:33:29.542305Z
       
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       @silverpill @alex @xianc78 I just checked the contracts for base registrar and registrar controller and there's no facility built into them that can restrict registration or renewal. They have the ability to force migration to a new contract, which would be very painful, but they could do that yeah.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOozR7RL0kCdCJzNo by silverpill@poa.st
       2021-11-14T17:36:34.666423Z
       
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       @alex @Moon @xianc78 I guess in a few years we'll finally get working light clients for ethereum. But how would you fix governance? I think it's inevitable that ENS DAO will be captured by VCs and twitter celebrities
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOozRelL7OoIXubK4 by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-11-14T18:04:28.460979Z
       
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       @silverpill @Moon @xianc78 We can fork ENS and prevent the contract from being replaced. It’s an option. We don’t have that option on DNS. These are solvable problems. DNS can’t be fixed.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOtoHeigINVroOBaS by silverpill@poa.st
       2021-11-14T18:55:41.364508Z
       
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       @alex @Moon @xianc78 We can fork ENS but we can't fork all the infrastructure built around it. I'm not arguing that DNS can be fixed. It's broken for exactly the same reason, you can't just fork ICANN and hope that everyone will follow.On the other hand, public-key based identities do not require formal governance, they are usually free to use and anonymous. And human readability issue can be solved with a petname system (like a phonebook) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petname
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOtoICkdlbHZMJMdE by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T18:58:30.749332Z
       
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       @silverpill @alex @xianc78 what infrastructure are you proposing, pgp keyservers?
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOu0M32B2HAxpWAKm by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-11-14T19:00:39.764920Z
       
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       @silverpill @Moon @xianc78 I get your point, but blockchain domains are 10x better than the ICANN. We have to advance, and this is the path.There’s currently no path for key based identities. There could be, but there isn’t yet.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOuDmaSofNP2RYbx2 by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
       2021-11-14T19:03:05.059472Z
       
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       @alex @silverpill @Moon @xianc78 how does one stop someone from mass registering with these blockchain name services? With ICANN there are registration fees to stymie that behavior.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOuZ9Pd9D0DuXgAWO by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T19:06:59.210190Z
       
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       @NEETzsche @alex @silverpill @xianc78 there is a registration fee. there is a governance board that determines that fee. it really only exists to prevent soam
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOwxhezfNiEzFhU8W by silverpill@poa.st
       2021-11-14T19:32:57.564859Z
       
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       @Moon @alex @xianc78 Onions are the most viable option, but unfortunately they are very slow. My favourite network is Yggdrasil (yggdrasil-network.github.io/) where each node receives a public IPv6 address and all communications are encrypted so there's no need for HTTPS. It's still experimental (only ~2500 nodes) and it's not clear how well it will scale.Ideally, instances should be able to communicate with each other via different transports and switch automatically if one of them fails.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOy5CuDzhEDsIxzcG by pamaca@descentraliza.me
       2021-11-14T19:46:06.738004Z
       
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       @Moon @xianc78 @alex @NEETzsche @silverpill why are you trying to reinvent the wheel? #Namecoin solved this more than a decade ago. No bloated blockchain, it just does one thing and does it right.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOyCWpIKR2lgU9Sxk by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-11-14T19:47:41.633372Z
       
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       @pamaca @Moon @NEETzsche @silverpill @xianc78 Why can’t I figure out how to use it, and how would a browser implement it?
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOyESdkrb7BHRfwdU by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-11-14T19:48:02.329767Z
       
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       @pamaca @Moon @NEETzsche @silverpill @xianc78 Does it have traditional DNS records?
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOyJeuYfRsmmo0uX2 by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-11-14T19:49:00.463794Z
       
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       @pamaca @NEETzsche @alex @silverpill @xianc78 hooking name resolution to a general purpose blockchain gets us the security of a whole network of people doing different things, which is actually better security
       
 (DIR) Post #ADOyKGOHJudn1hCfUe by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2021-11-14T19:49:05Z
       
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       @alex @pamaca @NEETzsche @silverpill @Moon ZeroNet uses it and works on modern web browsers. Maybe you should look on how ZeroNet uses it.
       
 (DIR) Post #ADP11FbMKTfwwJwnjs by woodrow@pleroma.dragonborn.app
       2021-11-14T20:17:24.709194Z
       
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       @alexThose are the things that are needed to solve the biggest problems of DNS. Until centralization and censorship resistance are fixed, none of the other whiz-bang tech makes a difference.  @xianc78 @silverpill @Moon