Post ADOpup01DwuRCWDIn2 by rdr@posting.lolicon.rocks
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(DIR) Post #ADOfqVmBknpAsj3Cr2 by be@fosstodon.org
2021-11-14T16:19:48Z
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Is Canonical paid to advertise VS Code, Spotify, Slack, and Discord in the default Ubuntu installation?
(DIR) Post #ADOfqWHNsomIRTe7Tk by brandon@fosstodon.org
2021-11-14T16:21:57Z
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@be I wouldn't jump to that conclusion, only because these would simply be the most popular snaps. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if they indeed were being paid.
(DIR) Post #ADOgu7WDz6BmlErtke by downey@floss.social
2021-11-14T16:33:49Z
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@brandon @be dont give them any ideas...
(DIR) Post #ADOkeSGhTByCIXOOy8 by brandon@fosstodon.org
2021-11-14T17:15:49Z
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@downey @be would be for this as long as some conditions are met:* It's apparent as to what's paid for to be put there* There's a higher concentration of non-paid-for apps* There's a higher concentration of free software* The apps don't actively harm the individual (no scams, viruses, etc)* Users are not forced to install those apps* Users are not "recommended" to install them.* No apps that require subscription* Pricing is transparent* Pricing is higher for non-free-software1/2
(DIR) Post #ADOklY1gSdOmBNkceO by brandon@fosstodon.org
2021-11-14T17:17:07Z
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@downey @be * privacy labels are included and must be provided by the entity paying for the ad, especially for non-free software* Some other stuff I surely will think of a few hours from now2/2
(DIR) Post #ADOl3nSjo83lGo6hLE by downey@floss.social
2021-11-14T17:20:21Z
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@brandon @be or just use debian and don't worry about any of it 😁
(DIR) Post #ADOlCPM8nu4n6z7yCG by brandon@fosstodon.org
2021-11-14T17:21:59Z
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@downey @be There is a clear lack of funding in open-source... this would be one of the ways that that could be resolved.Canonical could even use part of that funding to donate to other projects.
(DIR) Post #ADOlJ79mrnNGh8XyhE by be@fosstodon.org
2021-11-14T17:23:09Z
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@brandon @downey I disagree that advertising proprietary software is a good idea for funding free software.
(DIR) Post #ADOlT7bu2GG0zsTBb6 by downey@floss.social
2021-11-14T17:24:57Z
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@brandon @be i agree about the funding challenges. Keep in mind Canonical made US$140,000,000.00 last year...
(DIR) Post #ADOlYmhig2T5tYtHtY by brandon@fosstodon.org
2021-11-14T17:25:59Z
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@be @downey considering how many companies that produce proprietary software use Canonical and RedHat's services, and how much of that money is reinvested into producing free software code, I don't think that there's an argument that free software could continue to advance at today's pace without funding that's tied to proprietary software.
(DIR) Post #ADOlgTLuVhRqC3M6cq by be@fosstodon.org
2021-11-14T17:27:23Z
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@brandon @downey I don't see how that's relevant here...
(DIR) Post #ADOljNzqsaLmS3QXs8 by brandon@fosstodon.org
2021-11-14T17:27:56Z
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@downey @be They also have 505 employees and a considerable amount of operating costs and only recently started being profitable from what I've read
(DIR) Post #ADOm4DX8yZ4Q59vrV2 by brandon@fosstodon.org
2021-11-14T17:31:41Z
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@be @downey If the software was going to be shown at the top due to popularity ranking, what difference does it make?
(DIR) Post #ADOmEArLlyqOgV8D9k by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2021-11-14T17:33:28Z
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@be I hate snaps
(DIR) Post #ADOmPdAMrxvTf5UQN6 by brandon@fosstodon.org
2021-11-14T17:35:34Z
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@be @downey If the software was going to be shown at the top due to popularity ranking, and there's already money tied to proprietary software helping fund free software, what difference does it make?
(DIR) Post #ADOnc8sMtoeRR8bHjU by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-11-14T17:49:05.589939Z
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@be Are these all snap packages to boot?
(DIR) Post #ADOnqPiN5dVRiPjIWG by fiddle@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-11-14T17:51:40.322402Z
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@djsumdog @be yes
(DIR) Post #ADOo202kMSQZZWmhxg by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-11-14T17:53:46.016472Z
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@fiddle @be :blobcattableflip:
(DIR) Post #ADOpup01DwuRCWDIn2 by rdr@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-11-14T18:14:52.787905Z
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@fiddle @djsumdog @be yes they are the major snaps available, I think that's why they're highlighted. Canonical loves eating their own dog food, or at least forcing it on their users. 🐶 :KoroneSmileD:
(DIR) Post #ADOw9DKY9pZIRS3xia by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2021-11-14T19:24:25Z
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@brandon @be @downey For one, advertising is always a game that involves a whole lot of hope. Or tracking data. Anything advertising related is going to involve data mining to, at minimum, optimise the returns on the advertising dollars spent.That's a bad road to head down.
(DIR) Post #ADOxTwu0X2UdWh6CZM by csepp@merveilles.town
2021-11-14T19:39:34Z
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@brandon @downey @be Selling ads has not turned out so great for funding anything of value online.
(DIR) Post #ADPV7gr4uZSDpMHpZ2 by simon@fosstodon.org
2021-11-14T19:05:04Z
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@downey @brandon @be profit or revenue?
(DIR) Post #ADPV7hQAo5WjaChrGa by brandon@fosstodon.org
2021-11-15T01:56:32Z
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@simon @downey @be that would be revenue, they made 20M profit last year for the first year they were profitable (likely also ended up paying debts)