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(DIR) Post #ADFCmnn6BhrIV9iScC by mhoye@mastodon.social
2021-11-10T02:42:23Z
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Seriously, the Chrome team just landed a patch that lets sites block "View Source" _right in the middle_ of the Chrome Dev Summit.https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/3260807https://developer.chrome.com/devsummit/
(DIR) Post #ADFDWaU7zWZGYRfthI by yes@social.handholding.io
2021-11-10T02:52:18.633034Z
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@mhoye google owns the web it is bought and paid for long ago.
(DIR) Post #ADFDdBOFgvt8kf4Tp2 by hyde@lazybear.social
2021-11-10T02:53:29Z
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@mhoyeWe should really boycott that browser ... It makes me sick when I see colleagues using it 🤢🤢🤢🤮
(DIR) Post #ADFDtlbwn5f9ipNvtI by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2021-11-10T02:56:25.337848Z
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@mhoye sites?The patch ( https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/e72fc9b64116bf259e516096fcc60b58ae8ae1b3^!/ ) looks like it’s for admin settings.And tbh you don’t really need to block view-source: in websites, obfuscation of web content is going strong these days and I wouldn’t be surprised to see broken encryption (à la DRM where you give the decryption keys anyway).
(DIR) Post #ADFEWknBlhnITcEXTc by amatecha@merveilles.town
2021-11-10T03:01:20Z
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@mhoye @neauoire Just to be clear, this setting appears to be a group policy setting, like for work/school admins to disallow View Source on Chrome on their machine. It's not for any ol' website to block visitors from using View Source. Reading the source it does indeed look like policy setting and not a web API. Of course, I won't be surprised at all if it later ends up being a setting websites can use :PTweet from the submitter of the code review: https://twitter.com/ericlaw/status/1457884158391373833
(DIR) Post #ADFEn4sUrHLvP8V4Fc by amatecha@merveilles.town
2021-11-10T03:02:16Z
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@mhoye @neauoire (but I mean, fuck Chrome anyways and don't use it regardless)
(DIR) Post #ADFEn5OOwesD05QXyq by neauoire@merveilles.town
2021-11-10T03:02:34Z
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@amatecha @mhoye that's a slippery slope :/
(DIR) Post #ADFHeOu3Kt2WldmY1g by objelisks@friend.camp
2021-11-10T02:51:23Z
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@mhoye still kinda unchill, but this is for a chrome enterprise feature (i.e. business network admins can block users on their network from using view source to get around network blocks), i don't think this lets any website remove view source
(DIR) Post #ADFHePXkxGnakmMFua by paradroyd@mastodon.sdf.org
2021-11-10T03:38:29Z
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@objelisks @mhoye Yeah..as I understand it, this just allows the user, or user's site administrator to block this from the user side, like in a policy file, etc.
(DIR) Post #ADFgWUt9hC6vrugrce by selea@social.linux.pizza
2021-11-10T08:16:57Z
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@mhoye Google Cramp
(DIR) Post #ADFgXpExVwH5HHWQzY by selea@social.linux.pizza
2021-11-10T08:17:13Z
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@mhoye but seriously, what the fuck
(DIR) Post #ADG8C89dJCtEHhTTWa by jd@newskey.cc
2021-11-10T13:27:16.781Z
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@mhoye@mastodon.social microsoftyep
(DIR) Post #ADG8JS8FQlXaGsJmOe by jd@newskey.cc
2021-11-10T13:28:33.769Z
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@mhoye@mastodon.social Finally! Microsoft and Google can collaborate to ruin the internet instead of splitting their efforts, this is just what the web needed!
(DIR) Post #ADG8RCsy067RIlrrrE by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2021-11-10T13:29:59.703Z
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@jd@newskey.cc @mhoye@mastodon.social Does this patch do anything? Like you can still type view-source: in the address bar or press F12?
(DIR) Post #ADG8YGDI1h27eLjlho by jd@newskey.cc
2021-11-10T13:31:16.840Z
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@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @mhoye@mastodon.social I hope so, imagine if chromium self-destructs, utopia.
(DIR) Post #ADG8nV0BKD3BrLs8yO by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2021-11-10T13:34:01.545Z
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@jd@newskey.cc @mhoye@mastodon.social Well I'm sure the countless chromium forks would not implement this patch.
(DIR) Post #ADGdeKUu6lhPFlLlTM by mhoye@mastodon.social
2021-11-10T19:04:53Z
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(To everyone saying "this is just an enterprise policy": Look at the conversations in the bugs. Somebody said, to the Chromium team, schools are using Google Forms for testing, and the kids can see the right answers in the forms, so to address that, we want to prevent students from reading source code. And without an ounce of pushback, without so much as a nod in the direction that this might not be the right solution to this problem, the Chromium team said yes.)
(DIR) Post #ADGdeL4Lyy3V1hw4jA by mhoye@mastodon.social
2021-11-10T19:07:02Z
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That's what sticks in my craw here. Not the policy part, not the (naive, flawed) implementation. Somebody asked the Chromium team to restrict students access to devtools and source code, and there wasn't even a discussion.
(DIR) Post #ADGdeLay1i8werC7Yu by mrmcmayhem@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-10T19:19:43Z
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@mhoye lol so what about dev studentsgoogle really is a bunch of retarded commies thinking everyone's the same
(DIR) Post #ADGpY6tywSr4nesg8u by helby@pleroma.envs.net
2021-11-10T21:33:04.347277Z
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@mhoye do you expect huge corporation to discuss something with you? ;/ just don't use their service/products
(DIR) Post #ADGqIm7835LDwCHWme by walter@programist.ro
2021-11-10T08:31:29Z
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@mhoye, this marks the end of an era.What next? Have a judge declare CURL and WGET "illegal" hacking tools? And have an option to disable dev tools and a list of "allowed browser extensions". Then "make" everyone a hacker?This is some coinbro NFT-level stupidity right here.
(DIR) Post #ADGqImfVzEqZeqMzNg by katie@mstdn.io
2021-11-10T21:41:12Z
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@walter @mhoye Some guy who was browsing a government website using Lynx got a visit from the UK police years and years ago because..well, he was using a little-known browser called Lynxso he was "hacking"or something. He didn't get convicted of any crime, just a raid
(DIR) Post #ADH7zBz3xCE9YTJwvI by Laconicif@fedi.club
2021-11-11T00:59:39.804875Z
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@katie "It's just a raid bro!"@walter @mhoye
(DIR) Post #ADIEPis75rePy242HQ by galaxis@mastodon.infra.de
2021-11-10T23:21:47Z
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@mhoye Heh. That post made it to jwz's blog: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2021/11/putting-on-my-hacker-hoodie-to-view-source/
(DIR) Post #ADIEPjO1BFAhYyzW0e by mhoye@mastodon.social
2021-11-10T23:41:53Z
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@galaxis internet famous again.
(DIR) Post #ADIEPk10qGMbVvEen2 by tpfaff100@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-11T02:29:48Z
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@mhoye @galaxis ooh. ooh. let's fix the hinternet!Well, other than speed+routing traffic, which really has improved, nothing else has improved since the 1980s. And that's me being nice.
(DIR) Post #ADIEPkhYI6OJdr8d60 by edsu@social.coop
2021-11-11T12:49:41Z
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@tpfaff100 @mhoye @galaxis I guess it was a typo, but I just wanted to say I love this idea of a "hinternet"--a hinterland in the network.
(DIR) Post #ADIEPlORichbmtCsxE by Koehr@mstdn.io
2021-11-11T13:46:19Z
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@edsu @tpfaff100 @mhoye @galaxis to bad someone got the hinter.net domain already... but the good news: they sell it: For just $2600 🤦♂️
(DIR) Post #ADIGnSzG0K4pYlr58q by joeligj12@fosstodon.org
2021-11-11T14:13:05Z
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@mhoye @BrodieOnLinux you gotta make a video on this lol.
(DIR) Post #ADIISEU2vrF4PCG89I by mhoye@mastodon.social
2021-11-11T14:31:39Z
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@joeligj12 @BrodieOnLinux Not me. I'm all text, all the time.
(DIR) Post #ADIJcHVadlgqdYKwEK by joeligj12@fosstodon.org
2021-11-11T14:44:40Z
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@mhoye oh yeah I mentioned you by mistake xd
(DIR) Post #ADIS2dz8UkWDVdEpaS by josias@floss.social
2021-11-11T16:19:03Z
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@hyde @mhoye Unfortunately, the target here is students on Chromebooks, who don't have the option. 😠
(DIR) Post #ADIU5o1to1GPRHAMT2 by hyde@lazybear.social
2021-11-11T16:42:04Z
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@josias That's even more disgusting !! 😡 @mhoye
(DIR) Post #ADIWtlN4AFSBa513IG by msh@coales.co
2021-11-11T17:13:07Z
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@objelisks @mhoye wow what kind of "network block" is so incredibly crappy that it can be defeated by web browser right-clickers?The onus is on web creators to make sure the source they push to clients is not sensitive. This "solution" is a joke.
(DIR) Post #ADIhlDPvcREtSDTufA by petit@social.ufeff.club
2021-11-11T19:15:13.364726Z
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@mhoyeWow, a great example of Google being anti-social.Adding bug conversation: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=895462
(DIR) Post #ADIx8tM7MD0vUsRlkO by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2021-11-11T22:07:33Z
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@joeligj12 @mhoye This is a good thing, it's just a group policy change not a website feature.
(DIR) Post #ADIxI1QciEvR8kuMLo by joeligj12@fosstodon.org
2021-11-11T22:09:12Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @mhoye ye it looks like it, nice video on meta.company, I called it from the beginning :P
(DIR) Post #ADKHStWyblZ24bIkfQ by Leftcel_Infilitrator@mstdn.io
2021-11-12T13:30:00Z
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@mhoye :blob_confused:
(DIR) Post #ADVrxiwgcAR4LRRM3s by Svantovit@poa.st
2021-11-18T03:40:47.660279Z
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@Laconicif @katie @mhoye @walter at least it wasn't in Americahis dog would be dead
(DIR) Post #ADX4mFHocM4wivyTvE by tasket@mastodon.social
2021-11-18T17:39:01Z
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@paradroyd @objelisks @mhoye Consider platforms like Windows 11 requiring remote login by the user (does ChromeOS do this? IDK). Seems like the remote party would then have some kind of management interface access on the PC.How eager are these monopolists for enforcing in-browser IP protection schemes?
(DIR) Post #ADX5bUBcyjqZhkVtr6 by tasket@mastodon.social
2021-11-18T17:45:22Z
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@msh @objelisks @mhoye It cannot be defeated if the content was delivered under DRM.