Post ADH9dU52BvJFDWtGim by TiredCarrot@freak.university
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(DIR) Post #ADH7YSCBZTZO12i1Bo by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T00:24:14Z
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@Preymonition What. The. Fuck?
(DIR) Post #ADH7YTBrs8uT6LZHKi by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T00:32:20Z
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@Preymonition Please do that. I cannot associate with someone who believes that a baby, with no concept or understanding of the world, can consent to sexual activity. I feel sick and disgusted, unlike any other feeling I have felt recently. I am ashamed that one of the people I thought I knew and trusted, would say such a vile thing.
(DIR) Post #ADH8Q39ws3FU0ODeYC by chronically@pawoo.net
2021-11-11T00:35:09Z
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@TiredCarrot I want to understand more about your feelings of shame-bc-of-association and moral disgust, since I don’t personally experience them and prosocial are very interesting to observe
(DIR) Post #ADH8Q3vo07WuOobs92 by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T00:39:52Z
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@chronically It is not something that can be easily understood... I've met quite a few people, including my ex, who have gone through sexual abuse and I was a victim of it myself, when I was 10. That is one of the reasons I have such an interest in child and adolescent psychoanalysis... I want to help them recover from the trauma they experienced and to find peace within themselves. When I think of a baby, I think of an almost completely undeveloped human who is scared and doesn't understand the world around it. To take advantage of such a tiny, undeveloped, sentient being, is completely immoral and disgusting in my eyes.
(DIR) Post #ADH8Q5AjO73yFObJ32 by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T00:54:30Z
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@mushroomfemboy @chronically A baby simply cannot consent. If a baby were to clearly crave that form of human contact and we're able to express a desire, then I would be more inclined to believe they can consent. A baby does not understand it's surroundings and they are confused and infatuated by the world around them, they do not understand what the person engaging in the activity is doing to them nor would it be likely they would enjoy it, if we factor in the physiological effects.
(DIR) Post #ADH9dU52BvJFDWtGim by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:12:55Z
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@cummies @chronically @mushroomfemboy That is honestly the most illogical and psychologically flawed argument I have ever heard. I do not believe this is worth my time so I won't be responding to this unless you can show me a study that shows a large volume of children having psychological trauma from simply being in a car.
(DIR) Post #ADH9w6kPAM5YM17bQ8 by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:18:28Z
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@Chizu @chronically @cummies @mushroomfemboy I have never started I was anti-consent although there is a high risk of the child feeling taken advantage of once they mature, likely due to societal pressure. My problem is with adults and mature adolescents, knowingly taking advantage of young children who are unlikely to understand the situation and who do not actively want it nor desire it without being influenced by a grown person.
(DIR) Post #ADHAVa9bpDrBgypHVI by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:23:16Z
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@cummies @chronically @Chizu @mushroomfemboy A child lover does not abuse the power dynamic by engaging in sexual relations with a baby whom cannot talk nor informally consent to the actions, that is abuse.
(DIR) Post #ADHAkyxDtuOSx7NNHk by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:29:45Z
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@cummies @chronically @Chizu @mushroomfemboy A mute person still has active knowledge and understanding of the world around them and the situation they would be consenting to, a baby does not.
(DIR) Post #ADHB1oUc37pnQi1GdM by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:32:07Z
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@cummies @chronically @Chizu @mushroomfemboy Because otherwise, that is morally taking advantage of them and their lack of ability and understanding of the situation.
(DIR) Post #ADHBH5Fo0vgHl1NJWy by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:35:35Z
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@mushroomfemboy @chronically @Chizu @cummies I never stated they don't understand anything, but what they understand is mostly limited to their needs and wants. Sexual relations do not play a part in their needs and/or wants.
(DIR) Post #ADHBcKkVb9mLtcrvjU by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:38:49Z
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@cummies @chronically @Chizu @mushroomfemboy That is merely a part of their self-development and understanding their body and the things that give them pleasure, an adult should not, not needs to, involve themselves in such an act unless it is causing harm to the baby/child.
(DIR) Post #ADHBwBSfq5x2smzZL6 by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:41:48Z
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@mushroomfemboy @chronically @Chizu @cummies No, it is most certainly not. The majority of babies do not engage in such an act and they do not require it. They do require and desire human contact, but not sexual contact with others.
(DIR) Post #ADHC74jLCpMBBwyuX2 by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:43:09Z
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@cummies @chronically @Chizu @mushroomfemboy Because it is for the benefit of the adult, not the baby. The baby does not require nor desire an adult to touch them in that way.
(DIR) Post #ADHCDlDo8XiciKQ5Uu by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:46:03Z
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@mushroomfemboy @chronically @Chizu @cummies My opinion is based on facts, studies and philosophies that have been practised since the late 1800s. I do not merely state what I think and feel gives me the most personal benefit, I use facts and logic to assess the situation and to come to a conclusion that helps others understand it and prevent harm to vulnerable members of society.
(DIR) Post #ADHCR0nJY6wcmCLXKC by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:47:10Z
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@Lily @Chizu @cummies @chronically @mushroomfemboy Regardless, that is all we know and until further studies come out that prove otherwise, we should not act on our feelings just for our own pleasure.
(DIR) Post #ADHCV4dRDAmJqXfCuu by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:48:46Z
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@cummies @chronically @Chizu @mushroomfemboy I disagree. Sexual contact is one of the basic human needs that the vast majority of mature humans possess. As well as that, show me a study that states babies desire and need sexual contact from an adult... I will wait.
(DIR) Post #ADHCZRnP2glypvPUZc by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:49:19Z
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@mushroomfemboy @chronically @Chizu @cummies Show me a single study or fact that proves your point.
(DIR) Post #ADHCio6xRZ2aeX1IZs by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:51:15Z
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@mushroomfemboy @Chizu @cummies @chronically @Lily How can you claim that babies can consent, without providing proof for that statement? Get your psychology training, fund your own studies and then come to me and say that I'm wrong. Until then, I will believe the science.
(DIR) Post #ADHD1NAHqybkaAQi48 by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:54:26Z
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@AbNormal @Chizu @cummies @chronically @mushroomfemboy I verify everything I state unless otherwise implied as an opinion or simply a thought. A lot of my knowledge on child and adolescent psychotherapy, comes from my research on Anna Freud and the Anna Freud centre. They are actively practising these theories and their research has been influential in the way we treat children and adolescents with mental health problems.
(DIR) Post #ADHD8QoofRgXwPkkPQ by korewatsumi@pawoo.net
2021-11-11T01:56:29Z
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@TiredCarrot @mushroomfemboy @Chizu @cummies @chronically @Lily ? are there studies saying they can't consent? burden of proof on you big dawg.
(DIR) Post #ADHDKXBmo9hDAqGgL2 by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:56:53Z
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@AbNormal @Chizu @cummies @chronically @mushroomfemboy My aoa is 8-30, but I do not believe that anyone under the age of 13 should morally consent. That's my personal feeling and I have never stated that people under that age cannot consent, I merely stated that babies and very young children that do not actively want or desire sexual activity, are not able to consent.
(DIR) Post #ADHDOp9rwQDO3vPuHQ by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:59:04Z
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@cummies @Chizu @AbNormal @chronically @mushroomfemboy How exactly is it dead if it is the most practised form of therapy for children and adolescents in the world? Unless you are referring to my existential and humanistic psychoanalysis school of thought, which is not related to anything I have stated and is simply just my preferred way of engaging with patients.
(DIR) Post #ADHE0gZuI2aaSKeLD6 by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:04:01Z
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@mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Essays_on_the_Theory_of_Sexualityhttps://kinseyinstitute.org/research/publications/historical-report-diversity-of-sexual-orientation.phphttps://doi.org/10.1037%2Fe736972011-001
(DIR) Post #ADHEUSsrlkcEfhiY3E by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:06:29Z
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@cummies @Chizu @AbNormal @chronically @mushroomfemboy I cannot legally call them patients, but I do train with a few adults and adolescents who present with common problems and I am graded on my ability to understand their problems and the way I talk to them, what I say, my body language, my tone of voice and my final diagnosis. I file a report on each person I work with and that is graded by my supervisor ^^
(DIR) Post #ADHEWCpkPmIDTJ5aBU by korewatsumi@pawoo.net
2021-11-11T02:09:28Z
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@TiredCarrot @mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically > freud> completely unrelated study> inaccessible doi from apahmmm yeah no. you have no idea what you're talking about or how to cite sources.. at least relevant ones.
(DIR) Post #ADHEj5phkq0hWYDKXw by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:09:45Z
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@mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically The Wikipedia is a link to the essays by Freud on that exact subject ^^
(DIR) Post #ADHEsoUd4wRadnzVui by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:11:43Z
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@korewatsumi @mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically The problem is that there are so few studies working with babies and toddlers under the age of 2, sexually. Those are unfortunately the only ones I can quote, as it is general consensus among mental health professionals that excessivesexual behaviour among those ages is abnormal.
(DIR) Post #ADHF4Wzvx0rRr8DlVA by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:12:36Z
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@AbNormal @Chizu @cummies @chronically @mushroomfemboy So you don't believe in psychotherapy and the thousands of people it has helped? Alright, then.
(DIR) Post #ADHFCuQoi1kIqnn3xY by korewatsumi@pawoo.net
2021-11-11T02:15:36Z
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@TiredCarrot @mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically https://www.ipce.info/booksreborn/martinson/infant/InfantAndChildSexuality.html?> general consensusyeah not like the general consensus agrees with your aoa either lol?
(DIR) Post #ADHFgavFo9O922BLrE by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:15:37Z
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@mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically That's fair enough. I am proud of the work I do and psychotherapy has personally helped me a lot as well, so I beg to differ. I understand your concerns, though.
(DIR) Post #ADHFh6J57brsMuZJnk by korewatsumi@pawoo.net
2021-11-11T02:17:22Z
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@mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically @TiredCarrot I mean I agree when it agrees as well but I at least put in effort to evaluate what is said before being an utter moron like this nigha
(DIR) Post #ADHFjiDL9bX6W181LM by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:08:27Z
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@Elea @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically @mushroomfemboy Complete nonsense. If that were true, how exactly did my advisor magically create the Anna Freud centre, UCL and Yale, out of thin air?
(DIR) Post #ADHFnr1sK04D0sjzea by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:19:47Z
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@korewatsumi @mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically My dear, that study did not prove your point, nor did it disagree. It merely stated other people's theories including John Money and Freud... I feel as though you are misunderstanding the subject and I encourage you to read the rest of the thread, as it seems as though you think I believe that young children cannot have sexual feelings. I never stated that.
(DIR) Post #ADHFqICOHDCRrDp1VY by korewatsumi@pawoo.net
2021-11-11T02:21:28Z
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@mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically @TiredCarrot seconding this. you literally did say exactly that.
(DIR) Post #ADHG7GmEoexEN2gVRA by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:22:46Z
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@Elea @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically @mushroomfemboy That's my point. It is still around now and working with and providing training for yale and UCL, 2 of the biggest universities in the world... How exactly is that irrelevant? The entire field of therapy is dominated by Freud and his theories, how can you call it irrelevant?
(DIR) Post #ADHG83VFebTvUY78GO by korewatsumi@pawoo.net
2021-11-11T02:25:31Z
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@TiredCarrot @Elea @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically @mushroomfemboy "I'm a socialist that disagrees with schools and acknowledges them to be indoctrination"also you: "mhhhmmm university cock *slurp slurp* institution daddy 😩😩"are you bipolar or just cognitively dissonant?
(DIR) Post #ADHGIpuWWwbwWN4kOe by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:27:48Z
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@mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @korewatsumi @cummies @chronically They do not need or desire sexual contact from others* It is relatively normal and common for young children and babies to explore their bodies and feel around to find the points that give them pleasure. They do not require or desire adults to help with this exploration.
(DIR) Post #ADHGO5z4CJwrorhyjo by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:31:30Z
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@korewatsumi @Elea @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically @mushroomfemboy Education is important, but I am critical of the schooling system and the indoctrination it pushes. My studies are almost completely independent and it is up to me to form my own theory, I merely use other theories as a guide. Unlike other subjects, psychoanalysis is less of a taught subject and more of a practical subject with a large amount of independent study.
(DIR) Post #ADHGocnaobCV7dzXjk by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:28:37Z
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@Elea @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically @mushroomfemboy That was sarcasm.
(DIR) Post #ADHGpoiry5OMOQLoeG by korewatsumi@pawoo.net
2021-11-11T02:35:28Z
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@TiredCarrot @Elea @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically @mushroomfemboy huh? you use studies that you don't adequately link, explain or even go as far as backing up with the very thing you so sceptically oppose?
(DIR) Post #ADHGtDVMHkxO7ceVNo by korewatsumi@pawoo.net
2021-11-11T02:32:56Z
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@TiredCarrot @mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically lol
(DIR) Post #ADHGtE1cLolFjfkGfI by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:35:27Z
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@korewatsumi @mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically The Kinsey reports! Coincidentally, the exact link I sent you that you called "irrelevant" Regardless, I fail to see how that proves your point that babies are able to consent to sexual activity with an adult and that they actively desire it.
(DIR) Post #ADHGtEXsPsZ7Liq1wm by korewatsumi@pawoo.net
2021-11-11T02:37:01Z
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@TiredCarrot @mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically did I ever make that point? remember the burden of proof thingie?
(DIR) Post #ADHGtFSb0zw4BdNKM4 by korewatsumi@pawoo.net
2021-11-11T02:33:40Z
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@TiredCarrot @mushroomfemboy @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically inb4 "that's not the same as adults"I'm down for that rodeo as well
(DIR) Post #ADHH2j0wVHC8S8xXt2 by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:38:58Z
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@Elea @Chizu @AbNormal @cummies @chronically @mushroomfemboy Again, it is still one of the most used forms of therapy for children and adolescents... I fail to understand how that makes it irrelevant.
(DIR) Post #ADHHaE4e2rH0L5fKW8 by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:44:33Z
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@cummies @Chizu @AbNormal @Elea @chronically @mushroomfemboy It has helped tens of thousands of people and it's effectiveness is widely documented... What are you on about?
(DIR) Post #ADHHavg1vjjBZUUIG8 by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T01:21:16Z
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@Chizu @shota_feet @Kaety Although there are not any credible studies that could come to the conclusion that harm can be ruled out, I am inclined to agree with current knowledge, however, there is still a moral implication as that would clearly be taking advantage of a sentient being who cannot understand the situation nor consent to it informally.
(DIR) Post #ADHImEO6nsx4k43epU by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T02:51:58Z
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@cummies @Chizu @AbNormal @Elea @chronically @mushroomfemboy *coughs* https://www.apa.org/about/policy/resolution-psychotherapyhttps://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-psychiatric-sciences/article/is-psychotherapy-effective-a-reanalysis-of-treatments-for-depression/5D8EC85B6FA35B5CEE124381F18E51B975-80% of patients respond positively to psychotherapy... That is all.
(DIR) Post #ADINE0Dnf2MhtBh5mK by TiredCarrot@freak.university
2021-11-11T15:13:46Z
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@Preymonition You are fucking retarded. Please kill yourself, the world is better without your bullshit.