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(DIR) Post #AD5Tu7xo94G4Sbtnk0 by JapanAnon@pl.anon-kenkai.com
2021-11-05T10:08:40.102053Z
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Thinking about projects like FreeTube, NewPipe, and Invidious, there's a lot of options for creating a new front-end on YouTube and using it away from the core site itself.What's always lacking, and gets brought up with people I introduce these things to, is commenting/liking etc. With smaller accounts, the ability to interact with the uploader is part of the appeal, I think, and a lack of interactivity turns people off.Of course, I'm sure YouTube's API limits third party access to keep that interactivity off limits... why wouldn't they, after all. So there's no way to provide direct interactivity with the YouTube side of things.But I wonder if something akin to Gab's Dissenter wouldn't be an interesting addition. Something self-hosted, like Invidious, that bolts onto the side of it (or NewPipe, or FreeTube) and creates a parallel comment section users on alternate front-ends could actually interact with.
(DIR) Post #AD5UEtqDqZUuk4Fvjk by coin@asimon.org
2021-11-05T10:12:28.707535Z
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@JapanAnon Thing is, when you like something it gets added to a list of videos you like. Now with a third part tacked on, maybe it can do a list of its own but you miss your old list if you want to go back to videos you liked.
(DIR) Post #AD5V8NeSiM4v7lD6zw by JapanAnon@pl.anon-kenkai.com
2021-11-05T10:22:28.782525Z
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@coin I'm not sure exactly how Dissenter worked, but didn't it peg the comments to the original page URL? So anybody visiting that URL would always see the same set of comments.
(DIR) Post #AD5VQHAjXlqCEzq2lc by coin@asimon.org
2021-11-05T10:25:44.459357Z
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@JapanAnon It was just an extension that allowed people to comment on a webpage. Only those with the extension could see comments. It's pretty useless if no one uses it.
(DIR) Post #AD5VjBzd1WvxgEfEoK by JapanAnon@pl.anon-kenkai.com
2021-11-05T10:29:07.729333Z
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@coin ..which is why I think it would benefit from being part of an open plugin designed to slot into these YouTube front-ends. Not a guarantee that it'd get used, but it would be neat if users on NewPipe, FreeTube, and Invidious could optionally enable a Dissenter-like system to use a parallel, cross-platform comment system.
(DIR) Post #AD5W7eciECyhQSbrCi by heavens_feel@neckbeard.xyz
2021-11-05T10:33:35.008425Z
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@JapanAnon @coin that's how it works.
(DIR) Post #AD5WgmXMnSpc6arLFo by heavens_feel@neckbeard.xyz
2021-11-05T10:39:55.427483Z
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@JapanAnon @coin There is a browser extension for it ( https://github.com/gab-ai-inc/gab-dissenter-extension/releases/tag/r12 ). Perhaps someone more technically inclined could take the source code and repurpose it to do what you propose.
(DIR) Post #AD5Wp8yZFoNO0xZNZI by JapanAnon@pl.anon-kenkai.com
2021-11-05T10:41:24.298882Z
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@heavens_feel @coin Yeah, this would require somebody who actually knows what they're doing...I'm still curious about storage, though. I'm assuming the comments and associated metadata are stored on Gab servers for their version, and gets called on by the extension.
(DIR) Post #AD5Y7DLZqCIsjoVqbo by dioma@kiwifarms.cc
2021-11-05T10:49:57.422881Z
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@JapanAnon @coin @heavens_feel> With smaller accounts, the ability to interact with the uploader is part of the appeal, I think, and a lack of interactivity turns people off.No 3thrd party comment plugin allows you to communicate with the video uploader. So this kinda pointless?
(DIR) Post #AD5Y7DvjflE8XxQiy8 by JapanAnon@pl.anon-kenkai.com
2021-11-05T10:55:53.182436Z
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@dioma @coin @heavens_feel Not unless the uploader knows about and engages with said plugin. Barring that, the ability to interact with other commenters at least is some for of interactivity as opposed to none.
(DIR) Post #AD5aTYOSTGcsI8dlFQ by dioma@kiwifarms.cc
2021-11-05T11:16:04.318572Z
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@JapanAnon @coin @heavens_feel new pipe allows you to read commands already. And if you absolutely must comment 'first' on the video, you can open it in a browser and do it there.And what good is it to comment 'first' on a third party comment system, that for a small creator no one uses.
(DIR) Post #AD5aTYtebHZzqtEfs8 by JapanAnon@pl.anon-kenkai.com
2021-11-05T11:22:19.711987Z
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@dioma @coin @heavens_feel NewPipe does not allow you to comment, only read comments made by others on youtube-dot-com.I'm proposing a parallel form of interactivity to allow NewPipe/FreeTube/etc users to comment on videos, and respond to the comments of others.
(DIR) Post #AD5pw6LpJGmr1uTp68 by heavens_feel@neckbeard.xyz
2021-11-05T14:15:34.907572Z
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@JapanAnon @coin @dioma I don't know if this will be useful for what you have in mind but I was able to embed the dissenter page inside my pages on my website. Perhaps this might also be of use. http://heavens-feel.com/rlyehantique.html
(DIR) Post #AD5rjtutuk7ctnCCX2 by JapanAnon@pl.anon-kenkai.com
2021-11-05T14:35:44.133897Z
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@heavens_feel I presume you need the Dissenter plugin installed to see it?
(DIR) Post #AD5vJnliY9XU7Oi8J6 by heavens_feel@neckbeard.xyz
2021-11-05T15:15:53.919586Z
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@JapanAnon No sir. You can see the results even if you are not logged in to gab's systems or use the gab browser plugin.
(DIR) Post #AD5yrMV4jtpjFscYpE by JapanAnon@pl.anon-kenkai.com
2021-11-05T15:55:33.128337Z
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@heavens_feel Is it visible on the top page? I went to look around, but I didn't see anything that looked like it... I do have a lot of script blockers and such, though.
(DIR) Post #AD66Qo6en8Zogl32gq by heavens_feel@neckbeard.xyz
2021-11-05T17:20:25.012524Z
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@JapanAnon It is visible on the top page. I just rechecked.
(DIR) Post #AD6rjnkX2QacvhG4ky by JapanAnon@pl.anon-kenkai.com
2021-11-06T02:10:28.176399Z
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@heavens_feel Can you show me a screenshot of what you're seeing? My browser might not be rendering properly or something
(DIR) Post #AD7UzTE30fcA7aWhd2 by heavens_feel@neckbeard.xyz
2021-11-06T09:30:18.623758Z
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@JapanAnon It's towards the bottom of the page (under the ko-fi part)image.png
(DIR) Post #AD7Y2hwh2MHAVRe11k by JapanAnon@pl.anon-kenkai.com
2021-11-06T10:04:29.566226Z
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@heavens_feel Oh, I see it now. Didn't scroll down far enough.
(DIR) Post #AD7cdCgGdqvE4ScSpc by heavens_feel@neckbeard.xyz
2021-11-06T10:55:56.142166Z
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@JapanAnon Feel free to look through the html for the page. Maybe this and the dissenter plugin could be used to generate alternate web pages for videos where people could leave comments and creators could interact (chat) with fans without dealing with google or other malign entities.
(DIR) Post #ANExJJtadB7hiwRtlw by heavens_feel@bae.st
2022-09-05T02:31:38.691871Z
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@JapanAnon This has since been made unnecessary thanks to based ryo-san's awesome fediverse integration setup.