Post ACSTqIsKDM69GY9O6K by brainblasted@social.libre.fi
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 (DIR) Post #ACSTqIsKDM69GY9O6K by brainblasted@social.libre.fi
       2021-10-17T13:01:25.696550Z
       
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       I really wish more developers would focus on the flatpak world. I’ve seen a lot of apps hold back on new features because distros couldn’t support them.
       
 (DIR) Post #ACSTqJPeDSkkvtk02a by carl@linuxrocks.online
       2021-10-17T14:03:48Z
       
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       @brainblasted My biggest struggle with Flatpak is that it is either really easy to support or very hard. I'm looking for ways to put Postgres inside Flatpak and this doesn't look fun since Postgres is a deamon that runs as another user.
       
 (DIR) Post #ACSa4aaLlUOHyJwDB2 by iooioio@fosstodon.org
       2021-10-17T15:44:05Z
       
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       @brainblasted Do you have some examples?
       
 (DIR) Post #ACT7nS6TRakNBUxoJs by olamundo@qoto.org
       2021-10-17T14:21:43Z
       
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       @brainblasted meanwhile, I wish flatpak and snap would just be forgotten for a while. 😅I don’t want to install software that way and many projects, on their How To Install page, only list one of those two, as if “everyone should be using it, by now!”.
       
 (DIR) Post #ACT7nSd5UKpooeDr9c by afranke@mamot.fr
       2021-10-17T20:35:38Z
       
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       @olamundoBecause everyone should be using it by now.@brainblasted
       
 (DIR) Post #ACT7nT6rhcecJ09dZI by nytpu@tilde.zone
       2021-10-17T21:12:59Z
       
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       @afranke I cannot use it by now because flatpak and snap still depend on systemd and glibc which means it doesn't work on my Artix, Alpine, and *BSD systems (which are all I use).Oh yeah and lots of security, i18n, and theming issues, I wouldn't let it touch my systems even if I could use it: https://flatkill.org/@olamundo @brainblasted
       
 (DIR) Post #ACT7nTaztakzoSFhXE by Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net
       2021-10-17T22:01:54.615676Z
       
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       @nytpu @afranke @olamundo @brainblasted Flatpak runs fine on Alpine and Void. You don't need systemd or glibc to run them, you just need userns. Even a lack of unprivileged userns is fine (I disable unpriv userns on my machine); you can just setuid your bwrap executable instead.The sandbox is way too permissive, but it's not a lie; plenty of apps *don't* need FS permissions, and you can override them. Almost all apps with FS permissions work fine without them, inc. browsers.The Flatpak Chromium (and derivatives like electron) is also the only way to get Chromium on Linux with all of upstream's exploit mitigations built in (e.g. libs built with CFI, auto-zero-init, etc.); distro packages (esp. Fedora) tend to nerf these and significantly weaken Chromium's security.It is absolutely true that Qt-based apps  don't get system integration unless you're running KDE.
       
 (DIR) Post #ACV5zJx7lNAJmv2f0S by avalos@mstdn.social
       2021-10-18T20:51:07Z
       
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       @Seirdy @afranke @olamundo @brainblasted @nytpu Thanks for making things clear. I still have my doubts about Flatpak, but the more I learn about it, the more convinced I am that Flatpak is awesome. Unlike the server-proprietary crap of Snap (there's lol, but that a fork is needed in order to support a free-software repository says a lot about Canonical's intentions )