Post AC6ADLEDMeT8NYuYpU by dynamic@cybre.space
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(DIR) Post #AC5dDR7e9ZXeAiHDxA by dynamic@cybre.space
2021-10-06T10:43:29Z
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I'm curious how other fediverse folks are feeling about the ongoing U.S. congressional hearings about Facebook. Thoughts?I ask because, while I haven't been following them closely, I have the lurking feeling that congress is in danger of responding to all of this with the wrong kind of legislation.(boosts welcome)
(DIR) Post #AC5dIOXpAHtZcnsxsW by sullybiker@sully.site
2021-10-06T14:01:49Z
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@dynamic They will most definitely respond with the wrong kind of legislation. Facebook's management almost certainly don't understand what's happening, and so don't know what to change. It's ML wreaking havoc, as was foretold by plenty of people.
(DIR) Post #AC6ADLEDMeT8NYuYpU by dynamic@cybre.space
2021-10-06T20:10:39Z
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@sullybiker Reading between the lines, I'm inferring that the only legislation that you think it likely is that advocated by Facebook's management?
(DIR) Post #AC6GJZAT393F4fVgfI by sullybiker@sully.site
2021-10-06T21:19:02Z
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@dynamic More that if they don't understand the problem fully (which they surely do not, the ML domain is so compicated) they won't be able to implement any helpful change, and any recommendation they would make would be similarly flawed.
(DIR) Post #AC6GgL75TDKi94mvQm by dynamic@cybre.space
2021-10-06T21:22:24Z
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@sullybiker In the hypothetical universe in which the U.S. congress passed a law that actually addressed any of the big problems, I'm pretty sure that Facebook could find it within their capabilities to adhere to the law in order to avoid penalties (assuming of course that the law is enforced and that the penalties are high enough), but I don't see any particular reason to think that congress will pass the kind of law we need, so... : \
(DIR) Post #ACFpWUTL8xhuktsLTc by dynamic@cybre.space
2021-10-11T12:01:42Z
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https://www.npr.org/2021/10/10/1044917871/facebook-instagram-safety-controls-kidsThis, right here is the kind of thing I'm talking about:"Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, who chairs the Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Competition Policy, Antitrust, and Consumer Rights, told Bash in a separate interview Sunday that it's time to update children's privacy laws and offer more transparency in the use of algorithms."Facebook is treating users as products, collecting masses of individual data through passive surveillance, selling it to private corporations, using individualized user profiles for highly targeted advertising, refusing to give users control over who they associate, and arguably has been instrumental in the rise of fascism in several countries including the U.S.And what is Congress talking about? The impact on children.
(DIR) Post #ACFpWUxpJc5sHS8gzo by Azure@tailswish.industries
2021-10-11T12:05:56.403921Z
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@dynamic Focusing on 'the impact on children' is bad for children. You end up with awful laws like COPPA that just create /special accounts/ for children with what, to me as someone who grew up in a fundamentalist home, are a distressing lack of independence. And blocked off from whatever an error-prone algorithm says is 'inappropriate for minors'.Instead of just improving conditions for everybody in general.
(DIR) Post #ACFqJ3ISyB5of6wg3k by dynamic@cybre.space
2021-10-11T12:08:32Z
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@Azure Yes, exactly. I'm not sufficiently plugged into pop social media to have seen anything about the "Finsta" memes until NPR did a piece on Senator Blumenthal's flub, but as far as I can tell, the mainstream media are falling all over themselves to analyze whether or not Blumenthal understands the slang correctly, and not even touching the fact that **maybe teenagers need anonymous social media accounts.**
(DIR) Post #ACFqJ3mx8pTmBfD1Zw by Azure@tailswish.industries
2021-10-11T12:14:44.192397Z
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@dynamic Also if they end up requiring drivers license scans or a credit card to make any account, it'll make everyone NOT a child worse off due to having a legal identity tied to everything.
(DIR) Post #ACFqJ506dPavwkN2ie by dynamic@cybre.space
2021-10-11T12:13:50Z
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@Azure This is made even worse by the fact that one of the NPR articles about the Blumenthal "finsta" thing highlighted a quote from Blumenthal expressing concern that fake Instagram accounts make it harder for parents to monitor their children's online activities. *No shit.*Adolescents need spaces where they can be themselves without worrying about overbearing adults peering over their shoulders.