Post ABk61DSouVGoppJiRE by tangleofsnakes@spinster.xyz
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(DIR) Post #ABjiUBnHnftN9bAkLI by snerber@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T00:12:34.858279Z
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Thistle Peterson has been charged with a felony hate crime. A felony. For a pro-feminist sticker.https://www.womensliberationfront.org/news/update-wolf-member-facing-felony-for-terf-collective-sticker?format=amp&__twitter_impression=true
(DIR) Post #ABjiUCKFp6GOnqb4jI by sunspot@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T00:16:21.475782Z
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@snerber Every day women suffer abuse that men do not and yet this is considered a heinous hate crime🤡🌎
(DIR) Post #ABjjgYzRU2OKWZK3xQ by snerber@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T00:28:21.052463Z
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@sunspot Here's what it takes to get charged with a hate crime against women: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/ohio-man-charged-hate-crime-related-plot-conduct-mass-shooting-women-illegal-possessionAn actual plot to kill thousands, with weapons and ammo to follow through.A "bitches ain't shit" sticker on a telephone pole wouldn't even register.
(DIR) Post #ABjrUtTqH4owESULGy by shrikefliesfree@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T01:20:16.680148Z
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@snerber In a state does not have a hate crime law? How is the prosecutor pulling that off?
(DIR) Post #ABjrUu0SJouNrbkO6i by snerber@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T01:44:50.682688Z
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@shrikefliesfree Good question. I don't know. I didn't think we had hate crime legislation in the US at all. Or it has be very direct and credible threats.
(DIR) Post #ABjrUuRkgKk7EGWBea by sunspot@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T01:57:19.683949Z
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@snerber @shrikefliesfree It says in the article. It's a felony so law of the land.
(DIR) Post #ABk3GUFiTOMnNwmHwm by Cousin_Isobel@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T03:43:53.760801Z
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@snerber I'm really depressed about this. I thought we had a few years before it got this bad, in terms of free speech, in the United States.I hope everyone's signing the petition, too:https://womensliberationfront.salsalabs.org/dane-county-da-do-not-press-charges-against-thistle-pettersen/index.html
(DIR) Post #ABk3GUimjJcQq6NVFw by tangleofsnakes@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T04:09:10.869925Z
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@Cousin_Isobel I was shocked when I saw that it happened in the US. I automatically assumed it happened in Europe. 😥 @snerber
(DIR) Post #ABk4MoAtPpSurf6FX6 by snerber@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T04:20:41.505521Z
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@tangleofsnakes @Cousin_Isobel Challenge it on 1st amendment grounds and kill it!
(DIR) Post #ABk61DSouVGoppJiRE by tangleofsnakes@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T04:40:03.005365Z
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@snerber Might not fall under 1st amendment protections if they treat it as vandalism. :blobawkward: Even so, I don't understand why they're charging her with a felony hate crime instead of a misdemeanor. @Cousin_Isobel
(DIR) Post #ABk77WULBrqjWvbEH2 by LostInCalifornia@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T04:52:23.084196Z
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@tangleofsnakes @snerber @Cousin_Isobel It’s a disorderly conduct charge according to WOLF, with a hate crime enhancement, for placing stickers in areas with stickers already there.In normal times, I’d say charging her with a felony would be a good way for the DA to lose his job. These days, depends.She gets jailed, I’ll be putting some up.
(DIR) Post #ABksqizCGbC9AT5VOC by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T05:09:16.389304Z
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@tangleofsnakes "TERF Collective" sticker on a media box, Thistle Pettersen is now facing felony criminal charges: Disorderly Conduct (947.01) - a Class B misdemeanor - with a Hate Crime enhancement (939.645(1) and (2)(b)).*""Because of the defendant's belief or perception regarding the sexual orientation of the owner or occupant of the property, the penalty increase under this section changes the status of the crime to a felony..."The sexual orientation thing adds a special "hate crime" agitator, bumping it to a felony.https://www.womensliberationfront.org/news/update-wolf-member-facing-felony-for-terf-collective-sticker?format=amp&__twitter_impression=true@snerber @Cousin_Isobel
(DIR) Post #ABksqjWsFO8KquqOsi by Cousin_Isobel@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T13:12:49.912248Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @tangleofsnakes @snerber I wonder if there is any chance this will be cleared up once it is made known that Thistle is supportive of gay rights.Worst case scenario, this is used as a test case to show that "gender identity" is, for legal purposes, included in the definition of "sexual orientation."
(DIR) Post #ABksqjzaWd6OHyHKdc by Moonbuggy@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T13:47:11.308180Z
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@Cousin_Isobel @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @snerber @tangleofsnakes They obviously want to use this as a test case to make women speaking up a hate crime. She needs a good lawyer who can explain how Terf is used against women talking about our biology and the sticker is ironic. They need to show photos of the men wearing t-shirts saying "I kill Terfs" and the "Kill Terfs" patches available on Etsy.
(DIR) Post #ABkyTEhbIKDOJD2Yu8 by Moonbuggy@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T14:50:10.869837Z
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@Cousin_Isobel @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @snerber @tangleofsnakes I also think they want to prosecute in Madison, WI which is extremely Woke because I am guessing they have already scoped out the judges and think they could get a conviction. While in more conservative states they would be tossed out of court.
(DIR) Post #ABkzMnt4BBLTMNtrYu by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T14:54:00.079251Z
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@Cousin_Isobel I sure hope so, because the "TERF Collective" sticker she posted (as we all know) doesn't have anything to do with sexual orientation anyway. It's gender that is criticized by gender criticals, not sexual orientation. If anything, "TERFs" are fighting against the erasure of lesbians, bis, and gays. I can't help but thinking this is just another example about how the trans crowd is apropriating, redefining, and muddying words that matter.They came for the word "woman" making her both male and female, they came for the word sex-redefining it to include gender identites and sexual orientation, they came for the words lesbian/gay and changed them to essentially mean bisexual/straight, and definitions matter. Words matter! You can't tell me that someone who says "I love cats" hates animals - where in the statement is that said? But that's where we're at.@snerber @tangleofsnakes
(DIR) Post #ABkzMoQ2CbiV0dKBwu by Moonbuggy@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T15:00:13.361061Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @Cousin_Isobel @snerber @tangleofsnakes It's interesting that they chose that sticker as a "hate crime" rather than those focused on women's biology. This is exactly why "hate crime" legislation has always been controversial because it can be used by those in power to shut done opposition, decide what speech is allowed and even redefine words and objective truth. They also know that many ordinary people who would be on the side of her arguments if laid out in full will be confused by the word "Terf" as they are unfamiliar with it. Fake news will be able to spin it as extremist and hateful and those less informed could easily accept it. They won't understand her point is biological sex is real.
(DIR) Post #ABl0gNBLHJkGHULMdU by Cousin_Isobel@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T14:58:16.174571Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @snerber @tangleofsnakes Yes! This is going to be one maddening court case. It is going to be easy to show that Thistle is totally supportive of lesbians. I don't even know her sexual orientation, but regardless, it's very clear that everything she has ever done has been supportive of all women, including lesbians.To the best of my understanding, the founder of the TERF Collective is a lesbian. The group is 100% supportive of lesbians and has no more problem with gay men than with any other men.
(DIR) Post #ABl0gNf7UbZ3lqH93A by MandyJane@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T15:03:08.820581Z
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@Cousin_Isobel @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @snerber @tangleofsnakes I will be interested to see if any of the "free speech" lawyers have anything to say. The ones like Ken White, who used to defend people for things like this, have gone woke.
(DIR) Post #ABl0gO7plqX7Cti4o4 by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T15:14:02.060549Z
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@MandyJane Me too. Another thing I've been thinking about...a sticker of "TERF Collective" is supposedly a hate crime, but men say disgusting and violent things to women every day and nobody bats an eye. Someone mentioned the dude with the "I punch TERFs shirt" how is that not a hate crime?InCels online say they're going to rape women and say the most grotesque and dehumanizing shit to women every day...none of that is considered a hate crime. I also remember a couple years back, that disgusting pedophilic sticker some dude made when Greta Thornberg was hitting the news regularly. It was a drawing of someone raping her from behind and holding her trademark braids like horse reigns. People posted those all across America in every state. That's apparently 100% fine?? How is this whole thing not just a direct attack on women? Women always get shafted. We're still the 2nd sex.@Cousin_Isobel @snerber @tangleofsnakes
(DIR) Post #ABl3GCk1m0FEEXmTui by Mariposa@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T15:24:51.790502Z
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@Cousin_Isobel They know she's supportive of gay rights. She and her work are well-known there. This is harassmentof her. I really don't see how the charges can stick. It sounds like she has a good lawyer. But everyone please keep up the pressure.@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @snerber @tangleofsnakes
(DIR) Post #ABl3GhPXkDHLLzR3my by Mariposa@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T15:25:37.901030Z
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@Moonbuggy I sent such pictures to the DA. @Cousin_Isobel @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @snerber @tangleofsnakes
(DIR) Post #ABlE8RarlgWlTZzvqS by snerber@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T17:39:31.196501Z
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@sunspot The article kind of says it's both a felony and a misdemeanor. It's confusing. I think they're going to argue that "TERFs" are "anti-lgbtq+" forced-teaming trans onto the gays to imply it's a homophobic movement.@shrikefliesfree
(DIR) Post #ABlE8TlvfWZ6ETBnMm by Moonbuggy@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T17:45:41.512513Z
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@snerber @sunspot @shrikefliesfree They always have to force-team with LGB because there is logic in their arguments based on same sex sexual orientation, which the majority accept. So they always muddy the waters, so people think being anti the alphabet people is anti lesbian/gay. Although the rest of the time they are discrediting any LGB cause. On the other hand they may try and use trans/queer arguments to try a get into law in some way (again maybe by using sex as an excuse in law, like they did at the Supreme Court). If they can narrow it down to some obscure line of law rather than open up the discussion, they will.
(DIR) Post #ABlGooWeGVzg7MgjXU by snerber@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T18:00:45.256651Z
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@Moonbuggy I think I saw Wisconsin has some hate crime laws based on sexual orientation but not for gender identity. IANAL but Peterson and her attorneys might do well to bring documentation of lesbian coercion and gay-bashing from T activists.@shrikefliesfree @sunspot
(DIR) Post #ABlGoowWiIh5PcnOsK by Moonbuggy@spinster.xyz
2021-09-26T18:15:46.336572Z
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@snerber @shrikefliesfree @sunspot Definitely.