Post AAwpEuNXWOP55hHy7M by Sliven@social.anoxinon.de
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(DIR) Post #AAwlGeakmuzktK2vz6 by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T09:26:38Z
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NitroPhone - Most Secure #Android on the Planet - The NitroPhone combines security, privacy and ease of use with modern hardware. https://www.nitrokey.com/news/2021/nitrophone-most-secure-android-planet
(DIR) Post #AAwlcr0tHlUtmqrElE by bart@mastodon.fam-ribbers.com
2021-09-02T09:30:36Z
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@nitrokey Android 😭 I understand, but disappointing. And that means no #mainline support...
(DIR) Post #AAwm5N8TRu4tWM0G2a by ck@chaos.social
2021-09-02T09:35:48Z
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@nitrokey If I understand it correctly, there is no substantial difference to a non-nitro Pixel4a with #GrapheneOS right?
(DIR) Post #AAwmTOZZl1Uivb8QVc by scops@social.tchncs.de
2021-09-02T09:40:09Z
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@nitrokey Kann man nur empfehlen :) Die Kombi von Pixel 4a + GrapheneOS ist absolut alltagstauglich, "sicher" und nutzerfreundlich.
(DIR) Post #AAwmYIcFKgGJtuiqsS by egnun@chaos.social
2021-09-02T09:41:02Z
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"Optional: Physical removal of all microphones. A headset can be connected for voice communication."I'm impressed.@nitrokey
(DIR) Post #AAwmeJHZlcMFhov6wa by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T09:42:08Z
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@ck Optional: Physical removal of all microphones. A headset can be connected for voice communication.
(DIR) Post #AAwmlPMlXvwwbKjT7Y by koetpi@social.sp-codes.de
2021-09-02T09:43:23Z
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@nitrokey Ist es ein 4a 5G oder das 4a?
(DIR) Post #AAwn6n6IUuf8IFE2Xw by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T09:47:18Z
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@koetpi 4a (ohne 5G)
(DIR) Post #AAwnldd8c3OynK41GS by Sliven@social.anoxinon.de
2021-09-02T09:54:38Z
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@nitrokey euer #nitrophone sieht gut aus.Verstehe eure Wahl für das Google Pixel 4a.Würede mich freuen wen Ihr an Handy Produzenten wie #shiftphones oder #fairphone denken könntet naja vielleicht für Version #nitrophone
(DIR) Post #AAwpEuNXWOP55hHy7M by Sliven@social.anoxinon.de
2021-09-02T10:11:08Z
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@nitrokey euer #nitrophone sieht gut aus.Verstehe eure Wahl für das Google Pixel 4a.Würede mich freuen wen Ihr an Handy Produzenten wie #shiftphones oder #fairphone denken könntet naja vielleicht für Version #nitrophone2
(DIR) Post #AAwpcULdxDa7JBe68e by hund@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T10:15:24Z
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@nitrokey What about support? Are these supported longer than any regular Pixel 4a with Google Android and Graphene OS?
(DIR) Post #AAwpfCZyTUrr4Hdung by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T10:15:55Z
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@hund same support duration until August 2023.
(DIR) Post #AAwpk5uggaTPqGfEeW by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T10:16:48Z
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@hund Unless a GrapheneOS maintainer decides to support the device longer.
(DIR) Post #AAwplSg5X8IijbUHCK by famubu@floss.social
2021-09-02T10:17:01Z
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@nitrokey 'Most secure android on the planet' is a big claim..
(DIR) Post #AAwpnKwlFSYxKuBEI4 by famubu@floss.social
2021-09-02T10:17:23Z
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@nitrokey 'Most secure android on the planet' is a big claim.. Unless there is some evidence to back it up...
(DIR) Post #AAwqFRjZbgfqUkPoDw by hund@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T10:22:27Z
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@nitrokey Thanks for the reply. This is unfortunately why I don't bother with Graphene OS. :/
(DIR) Post #AAwqu1uCXe8eGIjp68 by selea@social.linux.pizza
2021-09-02T10:29:23Z
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@hund We'll just wait patiently for a well built Linux phone@nitrokey
(DIR) Post #AAwr7vny1JKxOaS13Y by hund@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T10:31:54Z
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@selea @nitrokey By that time my kids would be old enough to have their own phones. :P
(DIR) Post #AAwtPk8sJw78LRqrHU by selea@social.linux.pizza
2021-09-02T10:57:39Z
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@hund Well, Volla has one ;)@nitrokey
(DIR) Post #AAwtUPFxOuUv16O5wW by SchwarzerPfeil@antinetzwerk.de
2021-09-02T10:58:45Z
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@nitrokey The price though. That's double the amount of a normal new Pixel 4a.
(DIR) Post #AAwtdWK4UuVBXTerIW by kop316@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T11:00:23Z
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@nitrokey How to do you enable VoLTE and SMS over LTE and WiFi calling? Last time I checked, those are proprietary libraries.Does the Pixel 4 even boot without a proprietary library? I know the Pixel 3a doesn't.
(DIR) Post #AAwtiBYF9WYaZ7Vl0i by kop316@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T11:01:17Z
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@nitrokey How to do you enable VoLTE and SMS over LTE and WiFi calling? Last time I checked, those are proprietary libraries that don't exist in stock AOSP.Does the Pixel 4 even boot without a proprietary library? I know the Pixel 3a doesn't.I ask because your page says "100% open source"
(DIR) Post #AAwtlPznu9RIEVwajg by kop316@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T11:01:52Z
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@nitrokey How to do you enable VoLTE and SMS over LTE and WiFi calling? Last time I checked, those are proprietary libraries that don't exist in stock AOSP.Do you use the proprietary vendor partition?Does the Pixel 4 even boot without a proprietary library? I know the Pixel 3a doesn't.I ask because your page says "100% open source"
(DIR) Post #AAwuF048sOdkV44x7Y by dukethereal@mastodon.xyz
2021-09-02T11:07:11Z
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@nitrokey "100% Open Source and Attestation" does this mean that all drivers are open source and could be put into the mainline linux kernel so that if I want I could build a linux mobile on this even though you ship it with GrapheneOS?@bart
(DIR) Post #AAwuroerDxc0PflFNw by bkos@mastodon.social
2021-09-02T11:14:12Z
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@nitrokey @ck Will you also remove speakers?
(DIR) Post #AAwvCtmrLjbqOyYaoa by marco@social.tchncs.de
2021-09-02T11:18:00Z
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@nitrokey @koetpi Ne Kombination mit dem #fairphone wäre top gewesen!
(DIR) Post #AAwvWTgo5c6bFl3tvU by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T11:21:34Z
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@dukethereal @bart open source refers to the actual OS but there are proprietary driver blobs.
(DIR) Post #AAwvaU2KjygLUL2auW by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T11:22:17Z
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@bkos @ck We are looking into that right now. Why would you want this?
(DIR) Post #AAwveRHMw1He5uxYrQ by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T11:23:00Z
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@kop316 proprietary drivers are required.
(DIR) Post #AAww1AAKjDrJg7VL0q by kop316@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T11:27:06Z
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@nitrokey @dukethereal @bart So wait, what about VoLTE, SMS over LTE, and WiFi calling? Are those open sourced?If you have an open sourced WiFi calling library, Please link it! It would be a great reference to port over to the Pinephone.
(DIR) Post #AAwwlwJq1maiLOFsRs by kop316@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T11:35:34Z
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@nitrokey @dukethereal @bart So wait, what about VoLTE, SMS over LTE, and WiFi calling? Those aren't drivers. Are those open sourced?If you have an open sourced WiFi calling library, Please link it! It would be a great reference to port over to the Pinephone.
(DIR) Post #AAwx049rg97Ki8KHWS by ck@chaos.social
2021-09-02T11:38:05Z
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@nitrokey I like the idea. It's probably hard to do, but a hardware kill switch would be awesome.
(DIR) Post #AAwxaDrd4OghEp2NMm by PublicNuisance@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T11:44:36Z
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@nitrokey What would be the advantage of getting a Nitro phone vs buying a Pixel 4a off of Google's website and slapping GrapheneOS on it ?
(DIR) Post #AAwyCQ6O19W4CK9b84 by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T11:51:33Z
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@kop316 @dukethereal @bart AFAIK they are closed.
(DIR) Post #AAwyHNAwKGZYZLe4Lg by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T11:52:27Z
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@PublicNuisance We offer a peace-of-mind solution for people who don't have the time or skills to install it themselves. Plus we can remove the microphone, if desired.
(DIR) Post #AAx08bFuo3ONXYuuwK by kop316@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T12:13:15Z
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@nitrokey @dukethereal @bart Is there anything else that is not open source?It makes me really uneasy to see your website say "100% open source" without these caveats, can you enumerate these caveats on your website?
(DIR) Post #AAx13jwx9cPf0kIIm8 by WabuMike@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T12:23:34Z
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@nitrokeyAwesome! Great Initiative! The people need more alternatives to surveillance software in their phones.
(DIR) Post #AAx1EHrvtmzb6YyWkS by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T12:25:30Z
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@kop316 @dukethereal @bart Ok, I removed the "100%".
(DIR) Post #AAx1Sc0Tp7SncDntM8 by bkos@mastodon.social
2021-09-02T12:28:05Z
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@nitrokey I think the speaker can also be used as a microphone.
(DIR) Post #AAx2CvJYN1cOoloABE by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T12:36:28Z
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@bkos Yeah, that's why we are looking into it.
(DIR) Post #AAx2LqjukUHtEfOWXo by bkos@mastodon.social
2021-09-02T12:38:04Z
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@nitrokey If I were you, I'd disconnect speakers and microphones from the mainboard and use a wireless protocol (e.g. BT, but closed) for data transfer. Have a seperate module control and distribute microphone and speakers, potentially other sensors.
(DIR) Post #AAx32CdfiZcLJkfcOW by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T12:45:43Z
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@bkos Yes, we are looking into that.
(DIR) Post #AAx62ul1z9lE0n8x16 by rysiek@mastodon.technology
2021-09-02T13:19:27Z
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@nitrokey question, is there a way to manage @fdroidorg installation of apps and signing of the apks in question?Asking for a friend.
(DIR) Post #AAx7AwCQbm1QkqLcu0 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2021-09-02T13:30:52Z
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@nitrokey Congrats on the launch :)
(DIR) Post #AAx8sSKn6hqypEZgC8 by Godaccess@mstdn.social
2021-09-02T13:51:11Z
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@nitrokey finally :0140:
(DIR) Post #AAxBYfpFXMGgjr50rY by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T14:21:14Z
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@rysiek @fdroidorg You can easily use f-droid as an app store. Do you want additional signing, what exactly?
(DIR) Post #AAxJVvytoVHBbonXkW by krock@social.privacytools.io
2021-09-02T15:50:21Z
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@nitrokey Props and much success to offering a commercially available non-Goopple phone! DIY flashing is daunting for many.I look forward to future Android solutions on more open HW as well as Linux phone maturity.
(DIR) Post #AAxL5FSFVISM5tvfaS by juleLe@social.tchncs.de
2021-09-02T16:07:30Z
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@seleaDoesn't the volla phone depend on android drivers?What about the #Pinephone and the #librem5 ?@hund @nitrokey
(DIR) Post #AAxNs6psXMDBSePMoK by Utgardloki@norden.social
2021-09-02T16:39:11Z
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@nitrokey Ihr habt das sicher mit Daniel Micay abgesprochen?
(DIR) Post #AAxO3mUzyThJrYCumW by Utgardloki@norden.social
2021-09-02T16:41:18Z
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@nitrokey @hund That will never happen
(DIR) Post #AAxQhScfUdb3i1qKdE by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T17:10:54Z
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@Utgardloki ja
(DIR) Post #AAxQmFwS4GtTpONpCa by Utgardloki@norden.social
2021-09-02T16:40:49Z
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@hund @nitrokey Wouldn’t make sense.
(DIR) Post #AAxQmGS0Ay8BPF91NY by hund@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T16:43:56Z
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@Utgardloki @nitrokey And why not?
(DIR) Post #AAxQmH4drJ2VL5Dsbg by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T17:11:45Z
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@hund @Utgardloki Not longer. August 2023
(DIR) Post #AAxYqnSMCcgGYyyztQ by Utgardloki@norden.social
2021-09-02T16:40:02Z
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@marco @nitrokey @koetpi Das setzt aber weder auf Sicherheit, noch auf Datenschutz.
(DIR) Post #AAxYqo4zsxaaUp3r7Y by marco@social.tchncs.de
2021-09-02T17:57:55Z
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@Utgardloki @nitrokey @koetpi Na deswegen ja die Kombi. Fairness bei der Hardware und Securty und Datenschutz bei der Software. Müssten sie "nur" GrapheneOS an das Fairphone anpassen.
(DIR) Post #AAxYqoY48sqDwyf4Qi by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T18:42:12Z
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@marco @Utgardloki @koetpi Für ein hochsicheres System benötigen von dem Telefon ein Sicherheitselement wie Titan M und schnelle Sicherheitsaktualisierungen.
(DIR) Post #AAxYtourERafxWktmK by marco@social.tchncs.de
2021-09-02T18:42:46Z
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@nitrokey @Utgardloki @koetpi Ja gut, daran kann man ja (gemeinsam) arbeiten. ;)
(DIR) Post #AAxZvKiyYRycr3U0zQ by Utgardloki@norden.social
2021-09-02T18:45:03Z
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@marco @nitrokey @koetpi Nein. Sowas braucht viel Geld und neben manpower auch noch das nötige Wissen ind Interesse. Einzig Apple (iPhone) und Google (Pixel Handy) bieten sowas.
(DIR) Post #AAxZvLDSj6MaNbkMVc by marco@social.tchncs.de
2021-09-02T18:45:33Z
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@Utgardloki @nitrokey @koetpi Schade, aber man wird ja noch träumen dürfen.
(DIR) Post #AAxZvLier7JhwMLH8K by Utgardloki@norden.social
2021-09-02T18:46:41Z
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@marco @nitrokey @koetpi Du kannst deinen Traum bereits erfüllen. Beide genannten Geräte kann man kaufen ;)
(DIR) Post #AAxZvMGKpuFtco6Acq by marco@social.tchncs.de
2021-09-02T18:47:13Z
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@Utgardloki @nitrokey @koetpi Der Traum ist aber beides in einem zu haben. Nachhaltigkeit und so.
(DIR) Post #AAxZvMu2SI0xbwfsVk by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-02T18:54:10Z
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@marco @Utgardloki @koetpi Ja, das wäre cool.
(DIR) Post #AAxcN497z9N3SH4EGu by dylanvanassche@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T10:28:40Z
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@bart @nitrokey Indeed! #mainline would be the way forward! Android means also a list of closed source blobs to make the hardware work.
(DIR) Post #AAxcN4dy8U2azvUrLM by calebccff@fosstodon.org
2021-09-02T19:21:39Z
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@dylanvanassche @bart @nitrokey it would be oh so feasible to ship a device with sdm845 and mainline at this point, a few devs working full time could get it usable in a few months
(DIR) Post #AAz5STEvCvTKYdfOHQ by staticvoidmaine@fosstodon.org
2021-09-03T12:22:16Z
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@nitrokey Android? I suppose it’s better than nothing but a little disappointing when you could be contributing to the linux phone ecosystem instead…
(DIR) Post #AAz6SW78cW49QWbzkG by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-03T12:33:31Z
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@staticvoidmaine Our first objective is to provide our customers a secure and professional phone. Linux phones are not ready yet. However we are watching the space and might offer a Linux phone in the future.
(DIR) Post #AB42YY9tQVBlXLB3Fw by ct5597@social.tchncs.de
2021-09-05T21:43:18Z
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@nitrokeyIch weiß, Ich mache mich damit lächerlich, aber mir fehlt es etwas an 🤑 um dieses Smartphone zu erwerben eine Finanzierung bietet ihr nicht an ??? 0der , außerdem hat das Pixel 4 überhaupt einen SD Kartenslot ???
(DIR) Post #AB4v1UMA2KzZfRACDg by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2021-09-06T07:53:39Z
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@ct5597 Eine Finanzierung bieten wir leider nicht. Ein SD-Kartenslot hat das NitroPhone nicht.
(DIR) Post #AFYcTvosceQkYpMiZM by nitrokey@social.nitrokey.com
2022-01-18T07:15:36Z
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@k3vk4 Not sure about GSMK but NitroPhone has protection against over-the-air exploits by isolating the baseband radio processor using IOMMU and optional LTE-only mode to significantly reduce cellular radio attack surface.