Post AArNvsEfb1WaOD2Vyy by dubs120@framapiaf.org
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(DIR) Post #AArGwkg8TlJlYvMGWW by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2021-08-30T17:43:14Z
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Giving kids Chromebooks in schools is like serving them candy for lunch. It’s something you’d do if you were either clueless or hated their guts.What I’m trying to say is stop normalising surveillance in schools, you absolute muppets.
(DIR) Post #AArLTQgsDNs6wXXZg0 by selea@social.linux.pizza
2021-08-30T18:43:49Z
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@aral I can't understand how it can be legal to do that
(DIR) Post #AArLYbGOKgQBBMcSSu by fedops@fosstodon.org
2021-08-30T18:15:50Z
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@aral I fail to see the difference to forcing them to use o365 in school.
(DIR) Post #AArLYbjoZHxOecNxKK by selea@social.linux.pizza
2021-08-30T18:44:43Z
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@fedops There is no difference.@aral
(DIR) Post #AArLdrrC47Yy5uLS5Y by selea@social.linux.pizza
2021-08-30T18:45:39Z
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@aral Btw, anyone that see the irony here?https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-education-ubuntued/17063
(DIR) Post #AArLgZIxUy07QNcU3E by stux@mstdn.social
2021-08-30T18:46:20Z
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@selea @aral Kids should learn to work with Linux and at least something about basic security and how digital stuff works! Most kids don't have a clue how the device works that they're holding and using each day.. These days it should be somehwat of a "basic skill" instead of something "special or for nerds"
(DIR) Post #AArLxF1KAWHPR7K07U by SuperDicq@cdrom.tokyo
2021-08-30T18:49:28.188231Z
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@aral A lot of schools are forced to buy laptops for their students and Chromebooks tend to be the cheapest. It’s that simple. School’s don’t tend to really consider the software that’s on it.
(DIR) Post #AArM4xCWIxFqUGEgvw by selea@social.linux.pizza
2021-08-30T18:50:44Z
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@stux When I was in middle school, I went to a "Learn IT" class.The only thing that they teached was Microsoft Office. Sure it was 20 years ago but I doubt anything has changed.And as you say, they should learn the basic about how a computer works.@aral
(DIR) Post #AArMEKmlzETQEwfLbU by stux@mstdn.social
2021-08-30T18:52:27Z
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@selea Hahaha omg mate! I laughed so hard! I had the same thing when I was in "highschool" and this was about 13-15 years ago or so.. It was such a shame!I even did an "exam" in AutoCad that I opened for the first time lol, it was just too sad.. Schools are very much behind on tech that's for sure@aral
(DIR) Post #AArNvsEfb1WaOD2Vyy by dubs120@framapiaf.org
2021-08-30T19:11:09Z
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@seleaGoogle Drive...@aral
(DIR) Post #AArPtV6wnl4s00QKOm by pswilde@fosstodon.org
2021-08-30T19:33:13Z
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@selea @stux @aral 20 or so years ago I got kicked out of my IT class for exploiting a vulnerability which allowed me to change other people's passwords and logging in as them.I am now an IT professional.Stay in school kids.
(DIR) Post #AArPvvvq3MuflHO5Y0 by stux@mstdn.social
2021-08-30T19:33:56Z
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@pswilde Nice! :flan_hacker: Indeed, indeed! But let's improve some things along the way :blobcatgiggle: @selea @aral
(DIR) Post #AArQ67Wrn2SecqZ4Mq by selea@social.linux.pizza
2021-08-30T19:35:31Z
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@pswilde Novell? xD@stux @aral
(DIR) Post #AArR296i53PIJdzz7o by pswilde@fosstodon.org
2021-08-30T19:46:04Z
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@selea @stux @aral 🤣 I really don't remember, when I reached the legal drinking age a lot of that stuff went out the window
(DIR) Post #AArRf14DuJOifpN1qC by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2021-08-30T19:17:07Z
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@SuperDicq Interesting. Because @Pine64 Pinebook Pros are cheaper. And they don’t spy on you.
(DIR) Post #AArRf1Y07bDWABIoFs by SuperDicq@cdrom.tokyo
2021-08-30T19:53:21.716047Z
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@aral When you get to this point marketing becomes an issue. School’s probably don’t even know of the existence of Pinebooks.I’m very sure you could market Pinebooks to schools, they seem well suited for school work as they totally able to run a web browser and word processor.I think currently Pine64 would not able to supply schools with Pinebooks, they do not produce enough units yet and they also are not yet able to provide adequate support to be used in a school environment.
(DIR) Post #AArfpgbphyYvlh4b20 by cjd@mastodon.social
2021-08-30T19:56:18Z
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@pswilde @selea @stux @aral I remember feeling the magic of opening a QBasic window in Computer Literacy class and typing "shell" and hitting F5.Is anybody even going to bother getting into computers if their only interaction with them is these sterilized appliances?
(DIR) Post #AAsKJ25wtryIyAhxFg by sossalemaire@mamot.fr
2021-08-31T06:05:19Z
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@seleaBelieve it or not, in France, in the 80s, we programmed very simple things in Logo on made in France computers. I was 8 or 9. These days are long gone, sadly.@stux @aral
(DIR) Post #AAsWjS3MD3cUSMrLnM by WillowMist@tech.lgbt
2021-08-30T18:07:50Z
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@aral I wish there were a competitive open source platform with decent device management, that wouldn't cost a ton more than chromebooks and licenses. Unfortunately, papa google has really cornered the market there.
(DIR) Post #AAsWjSaKETzW6cHgBM by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2021-08-30T19:19:00Z
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@WillowMist @Pine64 could shine here.
(DIR) Post #AAsWjT5WMUwdfMsao4 by nytpu@tilde.zone
2021-08-30T19:39:16Z
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@aral @WillowMist Considering pine64's previous devices they'd probably expect the students to write the educational OS & software before they have a usable computer
(DIR) Post #AAsbs0B1iorKNQLLjk by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2021-08-31T06:45:24Z
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@pswilde @selea @stux I’m not proud of this but seven-year-old me wrote and ran a quick simulation in BASIC that made it look like I was breaking into the FBI’s computer system complete with sound effects and everything (our BBC Micro was the only one in class that had a modem attached), until we got “caught” and were told to stay where we were as they were coming… it made my desk mate cry because he thought we were going to go to jail…I try to use my talents more responsibly these days :)
(DIR) Post #AAsbs0gDqpoRwAwGMS by stux@mstdn.social
2021-08-31T09:22:22Z
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@aral Haha oh wonderful! :bloblaugh: :blobcatgiggle: Well done :clapping: But these are the stories that stick behind in the end :flan_hacker: :blobcatgiggle: @pswilde @selea
(DIR) Post #AAspIDygKdc473P45o by Liane@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-08-31T11:50:29.190596Z
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@stuxYes, but the kids sometimes better than their teacher and the politics is worst.We must tell them, tell them , tell them....:02nod: :afire: @pswilde @selea @aral
(DIR) Post #AAspIEXQFTOzqneoF6 by stux@mstdn.social
2021-08-31T11:52:47Z
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@Liane Haha oh yes! When I was 18 I did exams in Graphic Design on my OWN MacBook :flan_laugh: The people that where watching the exams where all 70 or 80+ :amaze: Just too insane for words.. We had classes where we would try to collect as much personal info from a teacher and present it at the end to see how "vulnerable" they are on the web. Teachers have often little but no clue about the digital world @pswilde @aral @selea
(DIR) Post #AAtIro0pFHBOg6izS4 by abloo@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-08-31T17:24:18.390822Z
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@aral also Chromebooks don't have fucking modifier keys
(DIR) Post #AAtIy8ogoBzMwH4Lb6 by kayden@fedi.nullob.si
2021-08-31T17:24:38.837Z
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@abloo@fedi.absturztau.be @aral@mastodon.ar.al they have HUUUGE Ctrl and alt keys actually
(DIR) Post #AAtIy9LepcMOaWUfz6 by abloo@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-08-31T17:25:26.739993Z
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@kayden @aral function, super
(DIR) Post #AAtJCKcNjB1Zaw4waW by kayden@fedi.nullob.si
2021-08-31T17:26:35.207Z
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@abloo@fedi.absturztau.be @aral@mastodon.ar.al well thats truethey also have no caps lock which is kind of based but then its just a search button which ?????
(DIR) Post #AAtJVzoama6GroAPMO by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-31T17:31:33.737256Z
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@WillowMist @aral i'm not sure true believers in open source really want to spend the time making a computer less useful and easier to lock down.
(DIR) Post #AAtJh3LvyAml1a2Cvo by kayden@fedi.nullob.si
2021-08-31T17:30:20.176Z
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@SuperDicq@cdrom.tokyo @aral@mastodon.ar.al schools use windows and or Chromebooks because they're really easy to remote manage and make accounts for (there's so many experts for windows domains and Google makes it really easy)I would like to use Linux and some remote management/LDAP/policy but I've found almost no info on how to get remote home folders working, how to deploy policies, configuration files, etc and so Windoes simply works better....I have never tried chromebooks, but from what I've seen the remote management is simple (Google Workspace)
(DIR) Post #AAtJh3oIGjTERXIr8S by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-31T17:33:33.527970Z
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@kayden @SuperDicq @aral ye domains on linux suck right now. i managed to get MIT Kerberos working on a couple boxes for a bit but the docs were rough.from what i've seen the current meta is "just join it to active directory" and if you don't use windows "just use samba to emulate active directory, then see #1"not sure what to do about this.
(DIR) Post #AAtJiMBRRVWNiUkTK4 by celfred@framapiaf.org
2021-08-30T17:45:31Z
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@aral I totally agree with this. In my middle school (in France), they got rid of Firefox on ALL computers at school to impose Chrome in spite of my remarks… Nobody seemed to really care :(
(DIR) Post #AAtJiMfDenLBCqgFjk by freakazoid@retro.social
2021-08-30T17:58:52Z
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@celfred @aral Given that schools primarily teach kids to be obedient to authority and not rock the boat, it seems like expecting them to do any differently is tilting at windmills.
(DIR) Post #AAtJnqvcYsTyWAy9VQ by kayden@fedi.nullob.si
2021-08-31T17:34:18.860Z
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@icedquinn@blob.cat @SuperDicq@cdrom.tokyo @aral@mastodon.ar.al active directory/GPO is the only reason why I would ever use windows
(DIR) Post #AAtJnrOgonjbyKZMoa by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-31T17:34:46.978506Z
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@kayden @SuperDicq @aral gconf supports GPO-esque behavior but it requires software actually use gconf.
(DIR) Post #AAtJsjgstljRWDPA6S by overflow@shitposter.club
2021-08-31T17:35:41.555854Z
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@aral you can buy chromebooks preinstalled with linux tho
(DIR) Post #AB1irRKBkXb6O0wmP2 by greenprocyon@mastodon.social
2021-09-04T18:21:37Z
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@aral as a high school student I can confirm chrome books are the worst thing since canned bread
(DIR) Post #AB1irRsDi0os5YrxRo by sergeantcat@mk.pusang-ina-mo.ooo
2021-09-04T18:53:15.470Z
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@greenprocyon@mastodon.social @aral@mastodon.ar.al as someone who works with high school students, I can confirm that your chromebooks suck shit through a straw.
(DIR) Post #AB1jiR2lWc90rY4GSO by greenprocyon@mastodon.social
2021-09-04T18:56:58Z
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@sergeantcat @aral I apologize on behalf of the students you have to work with
(DIR) Post #AB1jiRfPCx3KnO97gW by sergeantcat@mk.pusang-ina-mo.ooo
2021-09-04T19:02:50.086Z
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@greenprocyon@mastodon.social @aral@mastodon.ar.al Thanks, but I blame the government. :shrug_kon:
(DIR) Post #AB1jj0toDON24C9cUi by isagalaev@mastodon.social
2021-09-04T19:00:38Z
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@sergeantcat @greenprocyon @aral a parent of an elementary school student here. We were issued non-Chrome laptops for kids during the remote schooling. I haven't seen a shittier piece of crap in my life. So it's not specific to Chrome, we just like to save on everything when it comes to children.
(DIR) Post #AB1joyKUgJy9poTdom by greenprocyon@mastodon.social
2021-09-04T19:01:40Z
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@isagalaev @sergeantcat @aral new plan install Linux Mint on every student issued laptop/chromebook
(DIR) Post #AB1joz3rxcGW6XhsXo by sergeantcat@mk.pusang-ina-mo.ooo
2021-09-04T19:04:01.268Z
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@greenprocyon@mastodon.social @isagalaev@mastodon.social @aral@mastodon.ar.al It might help, but I think the bigger issue is that the hardware in chromebooks is usually garbage as well. It reminds me of when netbooks were trendy. The one I had didn't even work well when it was new.
(DIR) Post #AB1moxYhqZr9J4oJNI by isagalaev@mastodon.social
2021-09-04T19:16:04Z
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@sergeantcat @greenprocyon @aral yes, this. Especially displays, as it's where you can save the most money (I think). Small, dull, low resolution, slow death to the eyes.
(DIR) Post #AB1mtvcwSMFilPA2jo by sergeantcat@mk.pusang-ina-mo.ooo
2021-09-04T19:38:31.688Z
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@isagalaev@mastodon.social @greenprocyon@mastodon.social @aral@mastodon.ar.al Yeah. I agree.
(DIR) Post #AB1xhb2iGHjKwXXNgm by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-09-04T21:39:33Z
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@greenprocyonpuff pieces for chromebook been popping up on a multitude of education and news related sites. i tried reading 1 article and suffered a time skip because of the lies to think about.@aral