Post AApe9FWPIuul6C9cjA by emma@magicalgirl.party
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(DIR) Post #AApEzhCf24QPCZGXjc by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-28T23:27:38Z
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So apparently my main instance (plush.city) has suspended mastodon.social because of "harassment from the moderation team." Which means that I've been missing all the posts made by friends on m.s, and vice-versa.Instance-based federation is a mess and social media is such a hellhole.Y'all, let's go back to using RSS and just like... subscribing to people, instead of platforms, m'kay?
(DIR) Post #AApEzhr4bokdDuAoj2 by 9gcarz2naIwb0S3nkm.JoYo@thejoyo.com
2021-08-29T18:22:03.504880Z
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@fluffy not sure if anyone mentioned it yet but you can rss subscribe to any mastodon account.
(DIR) Post #AApOD6G85MIqGOM38q by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T19:38:56Z
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@JoYo That's the opposite end of what I'm talking about thoughalso I thought Mastodon removed atom support ages ago
(DIR) Post #AApOD6mk86OHtXc5ya by 9gcarz2naIwb0S3nkm.JoYo@thejoyo.com
2021-08-29T20:05:19.858899Z
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@fluffy https://mastodon.social/users/fluffy.rssrss works fine.if youtube still has rss then mastodon can too.it’s twitter that removed federation over a decade ago.
(DIR) Post #AApOD8FqfNGaS6Eqyu by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T19:44:05Z
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@Gargron @JoYo the main problem I'm having with all this is: I autopost my blog updates to Twitter and mastodon.social and otherwise don't use m.s that much except for interactions on that. And I want folks on Mastodon to be able to follow my blog updates. But now I have to consider also crossposting my blog updates to plush.city so that my friends there can follow those updates too. But then people who follow me both places who AREN'T on m.s get duplicate content. It's all such a mess.
(DIR) Post #AApODAErI1fAbbn5iS by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T19:45:58Z
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@Gargron @JoYo but also I take a big issue these days with instant-update timeline-based social media where the entire impetus is to have a rush of dopamine due to engagement, and interactions which highly incentivize hot takes and "viral" spread of outrage.Mastodon does a great job of fixing the centralization problem of Twitter, but centralization isn't the core problem with Twitter especially where moderation is concerned.
(DIR) Post #AApODBuj3qkNnkO2c4 by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T19:47:31Z
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@Gargron @JoYo I prefer the interactions that occurred during the heyday of blogging, but Twitter/Facebook/etc. have completely replaced those for most people, and getting folks to use an RSS reader to follow my blog is a LOT to ask nowadays.If Mastodon provided a means of subscribing to an RSS/Atom feed, though, that'd be pretty cool.I do have an ActivityPub bridge at @beesbuzz.biz but that doesn't work amazingly well and it doesn't work with private posts.
(DIR) Post #AApSfw9X8hZj8LH8oy by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T20:25:22Z
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@JoYo Okay, that's still not solving the part of the problem I care about though.
(DIR) Post #AApSfwe1JLxgetXULA by 9gcarz2naIwb0S3nkm.JoYo@thejoyo.com
2021-08-29T20:55:21.293671Z
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@fluffy oh, well your problem of moderation can be solved by hosting your own instance.
(DIR) Post #AApe9FWPIuul6C9cjA by emma@magicalgirl.party
2021-08-29T21:20:05Z
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@JoYo @fluffy I think what Fluffy's describing is similar to how on LJ/Dreamwidth you can follow a RSS feed, as one would do in a feed reader. Am I getting it right?Even Facebook, in its early days, would let you publish an RSS feed to your account so you didn't have to engage with FB, but people there could follow you. (I think FB should be obligated to allow that again.)
(DIR) Post #AApe9FzTYqAOYLkq2K by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T22:50:07Z
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@emma @JoYo I mean that's sort of it, but also there's the whole comfort/UX aspect of what one expects out of an RSS feed vs. out of a Twitter logorrhea.RSS updates (i.e. blogs) tend to be slow, thoughtful, planned, consumed slowly and considered. Twitter updates are in the moment, shoot from the hip, a quick rush of engagement done rapid-fire without thoughtfulness, and usually for the intent of getting a lot of quick, often horrible, replies.
(DIR) Post #AApe9GW5baFqBV0ss4 by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T22:52:03Z
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@emma @JoYo Like, even without the RSS aspect, bloggy platforms like LJ, Dreamwidth, and Wordpress make for more measured communication, people talking and sharing about things without it being a rapid-fire global text message conversation.Blogs allow you to breathe, and feed readers also tend to make it a lot easier to filter stuff out based on interest, not only via tags but also because you can skim and tl;dr-skip entire articles rather than having to wade through the muck.
(DIR) Post #AApe9H3laNC1rwlmMa by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T22:53:53Z
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@emma @JoYo and bloggy platforms make the author the focus, rather than the platform. You're reading stuff because you want to read it, you're replying to it because you feel like making a specific effort to do so, and the replies are either comments constrained to the thing being replied to, or a public post that quotes and responds in a meaningful way. And you certainly aren't stuck in a 280 (or 500) character at a time hellhole where it's hard to maintain context.
(DIR) Post #AApe9HYbjhrZPbCPR2 by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T22:55:48Z
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@emma @JoYo In a blogging ecosystem, if you don't want to hear what someone has to say, you simply don't follow them, or you ban them from posting comments. It doesn't completely solve all moderation things (like, I've definitely had my share of people writing long, inaccurate, potentially-damaging screeds about me on traditional blogs) but their audience is also inherently limited as well.There's no "timeline," it isn't so easy for every random person to force their writings at everyone else.
(DIR) Post #AApe9I7LeXeV9LS9aK by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T22:57:18Z
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@emma @JoYo By which I mean, on my site I can have complete control over who posts a reply to my entries. People who are reading my blog can think what they want, but they can't post what they want unless I let them post it, and I can curate the conversation in the comment threads as a result.I *receive* a lot of shitty comments (especially spam) but it's a trickle, not a flood, and my readers don't have to be subjected to it and I can keep the comment section clean and non-toxic.
(DIR) Post #AApe9IcBnsK2gzsmem by 9gcarz2naIwb0S3nkm.JoYo@thejoyo.com
2021-08-29T23:03:50.963518Z
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@fluffy @emma the 500 character limit is arbitrary.mine is set to 5000.plume federates with mastodon and is structured more like xanga or live journal.https://joinplu.me/rss is just a protocol, the rate at which posts are made are completely up to the poster and the rate the subscriber updated their feed is up to their configuration.
(DIR) Post #AApeEzBSxbh0AL5vVo by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T22:59:14Z
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@emma @JoYo Also from a technological standpoint, it's a lot easier (and cheaper) to self-host a blog than a Mastodon instance. And even if I self-host a Mastodon instance that does nothing to address the actual issues of the greater interaction model of Mastodon itself.
(DIR) Post #AApeEzfb9ZnNfnBzTk by 9gcarz2naIwb0S3nkm.JoYo@thejoyo.com
2021-08-29T23:04:57.058069Z
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@fluffy @emma it costs me $5 a month for my hosting and that's only because that's the cheapest VSP in my region.
(DIR) Post #AApeF1L6wib0qpcep6 by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T23:01:48Z
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@emma @JoYo For that matter, I'm not a huge fan of some aspects of IndieWeb; webmentions enable Twitter/Mastodon-style interactions on traditional blogs, and I've ended up changing the way I show webmentions to make them not particularly prominent on my blog entries, by design.I also really dislike the IndieWeb "webmentions are comments" thing, because that takes the interactions public again. There's a place for public commentary but 99% of blog comments ain't it.
(DIR) Post #AApeF3ILfxZguqLTnM by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T23:02:37Z
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@emma @JoYo Not only because of how conversations work, but also because if I'm subscribing to someone's blog I don't want to necessarily see every comment they post on other peoples' blogs, too! It becomes way too much to keep up with.
(DIR) Post #AApegCwFveVQdyxc9o by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T23:04:39Z
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@JoYo @emma Yes but my point is that there's an *expected interaction mode* that's different. It's not about the technology, but about how people use it, and how the presentation of the data informs peoples' usage.
(DIR) Post #AApegDTDx4sSIENwXo by 9gcarz2naIwb0S3nkm.JoYo@thejoyo.com
2021-08-29T23:09:51.644359Z
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@fluffy @emma if your satisfaction with mastodon depends on changing how everyone else uses it then i imagine much suffering as a result.the solutions i offer dont depend on changing how other people's expected interaction mode is set.if there is anything the last couple of years has taught me it's there is no such thing as common sense and, no, they didn't google it before asking.
(DIR) Post #AApelT2ZURGG1yQGGG by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T23:05:18Z
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@JoYo @emma There's way more than just financial cost.
(DIR) Post #AApelTfDAmAZxoV7UO by 9gcarz2naIwb0S3nkm.JoYo@thejoyo.com
2021-08-29T23:10:49.498737Z
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@fluffy @emma what cost is that?
(DIR) Post #AApelUtQbP8TmC9zHs by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T23:07:56Z
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@JoYo @emma and like... it's great that Plume provides a more LJ-esque interaction model, while being on ActivityPub. I'm not talking about ActivityPub, I'm talking about Mastodon. And also the fact that others are going to be reading/interacting with any ActivityPub blog primarily from Mastodon means that you get the Mastodon interaction style regardless of how your blog looks on your end.
(DIR) Post #AApfMmepW7CzaR6yWG by fluffy@mastodon.social
2021-08-29T23:16:39Z
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@JoYo @emma Administrative, mostly. Keeping it up and running, making sure your sidekiq queues aren't broken, etc.
(DIR) Post #AApfMnBnXXa1EgXIuG by 9gcarz2naIwb0S3nkm.JoYo@thejoyo.com
2021-08-29T23:17:33.414210Z
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@fluffy @emma dont need sidequeus for a solo instance