Post AAhSkeMtLtYkZPOMe8 by Techpirate9@poa.st
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 (DIR) Post #AAh6xuobJfJgLuGyye by augustus@shitposter.club
       2021-08-25T20:14:24.947092Z
       
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       bros why is there literally zero organised political opposition to this vaccine shit
       
 (DIR) Post #AAh706zd0gwihUTi2y by dubh@husk.site
       2021-08-25T20:14:49.370961Z
       
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       @augustus Because they'd put it in jail if there was.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAh7APmxyzV5tGT7Wi by hector@explosion.party
       2021-08-25T20:16:40.289677Z
       
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       @augustus because democracy provides only the illusion of choice.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAh7RTE8S8HfTcJF7g by freemo@qoto.org
       2021-08-25T20:19:38Z
       
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       @augustus largely because no laws are being changed. They are just operating within currently established legal rights. I am not saying those are correct or appropriate. But its been this way for a long time and that makes it harder to change.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAh7WGV5CJJRSBWTGy by SADIDAS@shitposter.club
       2021-08-25T20:20:38.170228Z
       
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       @augustus The cheques cleared.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAh7XZkp6723SSVgYK by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2021-08-25T20:20:51.612888Z
       
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       @freemo @augustus there is it's just censored.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAh7v8TIBa6rnAXoZ6 by neikocat@letsalllovela.in
       2021-08-25T20:25:07.508823Z
       
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       @augustus the only people who have a problem with it are weirdos who spend too much time on the internet, if they could organise something they wouldn't be spending all their time on the internet
       
 (DIR) Post #AAh9bgtegSgkg0jOaG by colahpse@neckbeard.xyz
       2021-08-25T20:44:01.432071Z
       
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       @augustusFor the same reason nobody spoke up about COVID's likely origins: until it's politically convenient nobody with actual clout wants to speak out against public safety and THE SCIENCE.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAh9ti3B8L0ZT0mH0S by Vasta218@poa.st
       2021-08-25T20:47:16.810849Z
       
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       @hector @augustus "The Solution of the Problem of Democracy: The Authority of the People" by Muammar Gaddafimarxists.org/subject/africa/gaddafi/ch01.htm
       
 (DIR) Post #AAh9uMFHgkSW88kVQe by Dice@frennet.link
       2021-08-25T20:47:23.883664Z
       
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       @hector @augustus as if you we had monarchy you'd had a choice as well
       
 (DIR) Post #AAh9vCzVa8KbiYm9hI by TheHermitShrimp@shitposter.club
       2021-08-25T20:47:33.203710Z
       
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       @augustus Because everyone who has resisted has been sent to the shadow realm.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhA78n11q28A6ccxk by Dice@frennet.link
       2021-08-25T20:49:42.459053Z
       
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       @neikocat @augustus people on the internet have video footage like this to show as evidence to the eager masses against this shit
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhA8I6zr1CfMdW5Sq by Tripp@poa.st
       2021-08-25T20:49:54.816094Z
       
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       @augustus When you do you end up having a really strange case of suicide.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhANAkZVUhCsN7i9g by neikocat@letsalllovela.in
       2021-08-25T20:52:35.687310Z
       
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       @Dice @augustus see look point proven, only bizarre internet people care about this stuff
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhAdoo8LGk1kGj7z6 by Dice@frennet.link
       2021-08-25T20:55:36.204046Z
       
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       @neikocat @augustus okay faggot, then don't complain when normies are too busy to even watch basic tier opposition propaganda
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhAevrjaNcVvPwTg0 by augustus@shitposter.club
       2021-08-25T20:55:48.901652Z
       
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       @neikocat @Dice i think it's a little more than just fringe internet weirdos, it's big enough that could have political representation but yours was still prob the best reply
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhAy1aIY1BXACtGsa by mono@shitposter.club
       2021-08-25T20:59:15.611496Z
       
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       @augustus @neikocat >political opposition>to expansion of political powerJust imagine the smuggest anime face because I'm posting from the bathtub.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhB1Lg6ISECLrBoWW by neikocat@letsalllovela.in
       2021-08-25T20:59:51.650895Z
       
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       @augustus @Dice nah it really is, in the UK the amount of people who are completely against vaccines is like really low, like 3 or 4%it's just internet weirdos with too much free time, people with mild schizophrenia and people who have weird religious beliefs
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhB6In8SLGkqZqGbw by Ivan_Ivanovich@poa.st
       2021-08-25T21:00:45.654653Z
       
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       @neikocat @Dice @augustus >the people who actually pay attention are the only ones who care about this shady shit going on, and this means they're bad somehow
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhB7kmXsEH1woG4Bc by Dice@frennet.link
       2021-08-25T21:01:01.441631Z
       
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       @neikocat @augustus I wonder which one will be alive in 5 years
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhBV8OaFGffqOCP9E by Badmann@poa.st
       2021-08-25T21:04:58.077376Z
       
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       @neikocat @augustus @Dice unherd.com/thepost/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-education-group-of-all-phds/
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhBZewz9IYnyARpdw by Dice@frennet.link
       2021-08-25T21:06:04.052567Z
       
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       @Badmann @neikocat @augustus also the graphs indicate retards while doubtful in the beginning, they can be won over while the opposite is true for Ph.DsMakes you really think huh
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhBemTuZmFom5I6TY by neikocat@letsalllovela.in
       2021-08-25T21:06:58.611903Z
       
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       @Dice @augustus yeah 5 years will come and go and then the antivax types will just move the goal posts to 10 years, 15 years etcantivaxxers is just new age cult bs that'll fade away in about 30 years :)
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhBoBWYpxmX380x2u by augustus@shitposter.club
       2021-08-25T21:08:41.071063Z
       
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       @neikocat @Dice i hear what you say, and i'ma let you finish neiko, but with all due respect i don't believe a word of this shit
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhBtHnqv5NJyGXDs0 by nik@letsalllovela.in
       2021-08-25T21:09:36.733906Z
       
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       @neikocat @augustus @Dice i wish that were the cause in the US, there's a lot of areas in the southeast US with vaccination rates (of eligible adults) as low as 30-35%. this is not a supply chain or accessibility problem you can walk into any pharmacy without an appointment and get one now.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhCHewGYMumfv5mGO by SADIDAS@shitposter.club
       2021-08-25T21:14:01.284086Z
       
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       @augustus @neikocat @Dice Whenever someone unironically uses the term "antivax" (especially when referring to countries outside the US) it immediately signals that they're arguing in bad faith.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhCOa7mqo2DlsmXHU by neikocat@letsalllovela.in
       2021-08-25T21:15:15.498639Z
       
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       @SADIDAS @augustus @Dice lol no its just easier to type, not even arguing with augustus here just having a chat
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhFD2lSqGS0z4WwlM by sim@shitposter.club
       2021-08-25T21:46:46.774703Z
       
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       @SADIDAS @augustus @Dice @neikocat I think I agree with neiko on how people are perceived here. Have you ever considered how you are viewed by people who are somewhere between pro and anti vaccine? Both sides become extreme in what they require of other people in order to accept them/their choice and then push the moderates out.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhG9LBIWkUUtkPbmK by xj9@letsalllovela.in
       2021-08-25T21:56:54.180511Z
       
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       @nik @neikocat @Dice @augustus virgin america can’t say no to taxes or yes to socialism bunch of babies humming and hawing over values they will never defend.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhIQ69bqpZT7hjzG4 by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-25T22:22:46.801589Z
       
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       @nik The South will rise again!
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhRYtI9wNZrQT0VsW by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2021-08-26T00:05:12.079774Z
       
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       @neikocat @augustus @Dice >3 or 4%which "news" channel told you that w
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhSkeMtLtYkZPOMe8 by Techpirate9@poa.st
       2021-08-25T23:57:30.651696Z
       
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       @nik @neikocat @Dice @augustus Screw that shot.   Alot of resistance to it here in the USA.   🇺🇸
       
 (DIR) Post #AAhyjX99ufmEPtTox6 by SADIDAS@shitposter.club
       2021-08-26T06:16:53.983351Z
       
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       @sim @Dice @augustus @neikocat If we're talking about the extremes then the ideas coming out of the Pro side are infinitely more disturbing. It's not even comparable. We're literally comparing "I will not comply" to "we will punish you until you comply".
       
 (DIR) Post #AAiv7ft6rNbhonBllg by sim@shitposter.club
       2021-08-26T17:11:09.179587Z
       
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       @SADIDAS @Dice @augustus @neikocat Both sides will shame you, just in different ways.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAiyx69NHCz3tu0blg by SADIDAS@shitposter.club
       2021-08-26T17:54:03.751020Z
       
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       @sim @Dice @augustus @neikocat The Antis aren't talking about excluding people from society or demanding the state inflict violence upon them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAj0NhfCWdHpjI95Um by Dice@frennet.link
       2021-08-26T18:10:04.445261Z
       
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       @sim @SADIDAS @augustus @neikocat that's a platitude and you know itBoth groups do xBoth groups will say yBoth groups will do the same action and say the same words to you, just for different reasons.Of course there's the extremes of both sides and one is overwhelming right now, so it's not proper to compare the two extremes as if both are bad. >Do not take it cause you will die in 2 years and there's a chip in itis a hell of a lot saner than trusting they made a proper vaccine and that things will go back to normal if just everyone gets itIf you care that both sides shame people, you're not talking tribalism, you're talking human nature. If you think shaming is the problem, then the solution is simple, become unashamed. Make it so everything rolls of your back.This is the analogy I always have in mind people are complaining about muh both sides, muh both extremes, we can find an answer in the middle. The subject, ie. vaccines, is a beach. We have the ''I will never take it'' on one end of the beach. The other end let's say is ''I will get all the shots until the end of my time''You can say these are extremes, but you cannot say they are wrong just because they are extremes. There's a line in the sand for everyone but when it comes to laws, I and others believe the closer we are to letting people choose, actually choose, not coerced, as the Nunember Code says:> This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, , without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. The better for all of us.So any measures that can coerce people, ie, your job mandates it, well, if every job mandates, not because of the government but because they choose to, you're hindered from living a normal life, then you can't really find a job if you don't take the jab, therefore one solution is, your medical information needs to be private and your job doesn't know of it so they don't discriminate based on it, which is what is happening now only with a few exceptions in certain jobs like with HIV. You should also check the travel restrictions on HIV+ people. To go back to the beach analogy, a line in the sand is the perfect phrase. People have different lines in the sand and each person has a different standard for what's reasonable and what not. Just because you think your line starts or prefers to be close to the end of the beach, doesn't mean you're unreasonable because morons think the line needs to be near the middle and anything else is extremism and wrong and evil.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAjB0r6WMGb1qQESLA by sim@shitposter.club
       2021-08-26T20:09:12.055122Z
       
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       @SADIDAS @Dice @augustus @neikocat I do agree that as far as I have seen, I don't recall seeing something about the state but my mind is a bit jumbled right now. The attitude they take would exclude people because they will ridicule people who take the vaccine even if those people are doing it for health reasons like they would take other vaccines. I do understand the pushback because it is being pushed on us through ideas like a vaccine passport or jobs requiring it when this should be a private health matter. We don't see this with other viruses.Although I am now thinking that I've seen stuff about how dangerous people who had the vaccine are because they think it spreads the virus, I can't recall the measures being asked for there. That's not any better.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAjBWfiIFCXRmd4Szw by sim@shitposter.club
       2021-08-26T20:14:56.927429Z
       
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       @Dice @SADIDAS @augustus @neikocat I get one extreme in the media and another extreme online that counters it. Of course I'm going to compare them whether it comes across as a platitude or not, whether it is human nature or not. I don't think people always realise how the side they have sided with come across to others.