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(DIR) Post #AAX7eIB37kUFSae4NU by eris@disqordia.space
2021-08-20T23:56:12.989327Z
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If public trust is the barrier preventing communities from getting vaccinated you'd think they'd do anything at all to address that, like community outreach, being transparent with what goes in it...
(DIR) Post #AAX7eIgbERix2RPGYS by galena@paws.moe
2021-08-21T00:34:57.322348Z
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@eris Okay you could actually try to address peoples trust issues, OR you could just declare them schizophrenic and drag them to a psych ward for questioning Glorious And Benevolent Leader. That seems a lot easier.
(DIR) Post #AAX7yuQUcmCnsZhRse by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T00:06:46Z
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@eris the opposite, those refusing vaccines need to be bullied for being backwards and miseducated and nazis, the reality is you can already find out what goes in .. and there are plenty of infographics around for children about how vaccines function, they dont want to hear that, and no amount of explaining is to convince them, when for the majority of cases they dont have a problem with vaccines they have a problem with autistism and thinking the international jew wants them chiped
(DIR) Post #AAX7yuwOi9j5TWcvbs by galena@paws.moe
2021-08-21T00:38:40.111304Z
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@swordsie @eris Pretty fucked up how the alleged nazis seem to pretty consistently be the only people who care about individual liberty or human rights nowadaysWonder why that is
(DIR) Post #AAX82F8w3Y9n044qki by dubh@collapsitarian.io
2021-08-21T00:39:17.794720Z
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@swordsie @eris Imagine, you, bullying anyone.
(DIR) Post #AAXAssQzPwUVpHkOm0 by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T00:52:03Z
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@galena @eris taking a vaccine no more violates you human rights than someone using a defibrillator on you dose or any more than it would violate them if you had a psychotic break and needed to be sectioned and put on medication, when wagering individual liberty against a persons welfare there are three tests we use that nullifies your liberty 1) is the situation a medical or social emergency (it is) 2) are you grossly risking harm to yourself (you are) 3 are you risking harm to others (yes)
(DIR) Post #AAXAssszjotPE8qlQO by galena@paws.moe
2021-08-21T01:11:11.532925Z
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@swordsie @eris The vaccine has numerous adverse effects and almost no benefits to me. The vaccine does not protect others in any way, as it does not prevent catching or spreading the virus, so point 3 is completely void. As for points 1 and 2, if someone wishes to refuse treatment, it is their right to do so. If someone wishes to cause harm to themselves, or to allow harm to come to themselves, it is their right to do so. Ones body is their sole, exclusive property, and one should be free to treat it as they see fit - if they want to cause harm to themselves, or even kill themselves, it is their right to do so. The government can easily, effortlessly, use your criteria to justify almost any human rights abuse they choose to. Just think about what you're saying. Think about all of the other countless situations your logic could be applied to.
(DIR) Post #AAXBYsz3lSzlh1iNP6 by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T01:18:47.945503Z
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@swordsie @eris It's worth thinking about corruption in the pharmaceuticals industry. Pfizer specifically has repeatedly created and distributed medicines for market that they know harm people and/or do not work and are not effective treatments. They've been sued repeatedly over that, and given out increasingly large settlements, up to 2billion$USD. They are also immune from any and all liability. It's worth thinking about Luc Montaigner, a 60+ year veteran of virology who discovered certain properties of mRNA and invented mRNA vaccine technology who says these vaccines are causing variants to be more deadly through a process called Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE). ADE happens because the vaccines are non-sterilizing. It's also worth noting there've been 25,000+ deaths *from the vaccine* in around half a year, and those are only the reported ones. Other people have been rendered paralyzed, immobilized, they developed seizures, among other major and minor problems also including death. Several studies on Ivermectin and some that looked at several countries' deployment, like Argentina, and found that it significantly reduced morbidity and case rates, and it's safe and effective with a 30+ year history, why won't pharmacies fill the prescriptions? Why won't doctors write them? Why are doctors, virologists, and other scientists being censored for talking about it? There are a lot of questions I and others have that are being ignored, and many data points that are outright rejected, and we are essentially being told "shut up, and do what you're told, or else"
(DIR) Post #AAXBiHFUutxTYXsipM by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T01:18:37Z
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@galena my criteria is basically the standard legal test that has been used for the past 200 years , taking a vaccine will reduce your risk of spreading the virus to others as get better faster, also you can be hospitalised for the virus at any age, and there is no such right as the right to self harm, infect if someone sees you self harming they have a legal and moral duty to stop you if they have reason to believe you will cause yourself hurling yourself someone else or worse @eris
(DIR) Post #AAXBiHl31bCB8Odv0K by galena@paws.moe
2021-08-21T01:20:28.999259Z
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@swordsie @eris I fundamentally disagree with the law being used as a measuring stick for what is moral or just, and fundamentally disagree with the current legal system's views on this topic.
(DIR) Post #AAXBxugcZUPwDH1Z8S by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-21T01:23:19.032143Z
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@swordsie @eris the vaccine is ineffective at delta, created delta through selective pressure, does not prevent infection and does not prevent transmission and the technology underlying it is unproven.You are the nazi.
(DIR) Post #AAXC2PepMbl9QVKZZg by se7en@freespeechextremist.com
2021-08-21T01:24:09.372563Z
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@icedquinn @swordsie @eris Delta is the vaccination
(DIR) Post #AAXCJ543BKj4Ts4no0 by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2021-08-21T01:27:09.568717Z
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@icedquinn @swordsie @eris pretty muchanyone still promoting pvizer's crap at the end of august 2021 is a sucker
(DIR) Post #AAXCkkF0CDVe0TOGTg by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T01:26:38Z
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@coyote whoever told you that vaccines killed 25000 ppl is straight up just lying to you there have been around 10-20 cases of complications with most of the major vaccines each and most of them are only probable cause stuff, and the reason that ppl are not recommending Ivermectin 1) it dose not work (there is no credible clinical trial saying it works) and 2) ppl are infact getting killed at a high rate when they attempt to take it as a covid cure @eris
(DIR) Post #AAXCkkhMUmC7QQeugK by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T01:32:07.781722Z
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@swordsie @eris yes, because those are the only two things I said :trollSmile: There have been many more complications than just "10-20" and you know it. I would call you a liar if that wasn't just plain foolish. Go check the VAERS database yourself."No credible clinical trial"How about a meta-study that spans several countries each in different continents and involved millions of participants?
(DIR) Post #AAXCrEtJ9WbyntL876 by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T01:33:19.916870Z
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@swordsie @eris now address my other points too while you're at it, or you're essentially wasting my time.You're calling people Nazis while calling for forced medical treatments, it's just not a good look.
(DIR) Post #AAXDHuFS0hVWbFPeca by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T01:38:09.412001Z
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@swordsie @eris I'd actually like to see *any* """""""credible"""""""" clinical trial that says it doesn't. Furthermore your claims that it's dangerous are unfounded and the drug is FDA approved, it has a 30 year history as an antiviral.
(DIR) Post #AAXDPaT3RDDhZHREuW by Jackuu@beefyboys.club
2021-08-21T01:39:32.520001Z
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@swordsie @galena @eris people aren’t taking a vaccine they’re being coerced into doing it. while plenty of people have taken it willingly, the ones who have not and decided to exercise autonomy over their own personal health are being increasingly ostracized and sectioned off from the remainder of society. contrary to what you might think due to being terminally online, you can’t ban people from IRL without extreme IRL consequences
(DIR) Post #AAXDbuGjdvJySJYBmK by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T01:41:45.816537Z
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@swordsie @eris [FROM TRIALS OF WAR CRIMINALS BEFORE THE NUREMBERG MILITARY TRIBUNALS UNDER CONTROL COUNCIL LAW NO. 10. NUREMBERG, OCTOBER 1946–APRIL 1949. WASHINGTON, D.C.: U.S. G.P.O, 1949–1953.]PERMISSIBLE MEDICAL EXPERIMENTSThe great weight of the evidence before us is to the effect that certain types of medical experiments on human beings, when kept within reasonably well-defined bounds, conform to the ethics of the medical profession generally. The protagonists of the practice of human experimentation justify their views on the basis that such experiments yield results for the good of society that are unprocurable by other methods or means of study. All agree, however, that certain basic principles must be observed in order to satisfy moral, ethical and legal concepts: 1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment. (Bold added for emphasis)
(DIR) Post #AAXEV1mRPw0Lg9fG64 by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T01:51:11Z
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@coyote you revel your antiscientific and holocaust denying ways by bringing the Nuremburg code into things everyone who took place in vaccine trials _was_ a willing and informed participant, those medications passed those trials and were proven to work and you are making a mockery of both yourself and the survivors of legitimate medical torture as for your last question, thats not how science works , the burden of proof on the person promoting a medication for an illness @eris
(DIR) Post #AAXEeeHvcDK9iOyovA by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T01:53:27.927813Z
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@swordsie @eris LMAO get a load of this idiot that thinks quoting the Nuremberg code is denying the holocaust and anti-semitism xD I'd like to see any "nazi" that uses the Nuremberg code as defense xD what a fucking joke you are! How long have you been a twitter user before coming here? I really need to know
(DIR) Post #AAXEkx9GPFibwkvvCS by dubh@collapsitarian.io
2021-08-21T01:54:36.649319Z
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@coyote @eris @swordsie We should vaccinate the jews.
(DIR) Post #AAXEmTJoHg0Y0gafgm by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T01:54:52.733255Z
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@swordsie @eris the burden of proof is on the person MAKING THE CLAIM DUMBASS LMAOYou made many claims which are very obviously not tru
(DIR) Post #AAXEqgC2MHs769xeJE by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T01:55:38.777239Z
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@dubh @coyote @eris @swordsie we should invent the cum dollar
(DIR) Post #AAXF0ZIyp4ewdCvLjk by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T01:57:25.487222Z
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@swordsie @eris I'm done here, if you're gonna play this stupid game you're not worth anyone's time. Maybe for a laugh or two.And no, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. You made several claims which are totally bullshit "10-20 adverse events" is outright false. "Ivermectin is killing people" is outright false. And you claim there's no studies on ivermectin" which is also false. Back up your claims you NAZI BIGOT LMAO
(DIR) Post #AAXF1MNyLIleqsdWoy by dubh@collapsitarian.io
2021-08-21T01:57:34.184975Z
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@1iceloops123 @eris @coyote @swordsie
(DIR) Post #AAXF3gJLEQcrEDZray by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T01:55:38Z
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@coyote what did i say that was a primary claim ? @eris
(DIR) Post #AAXF3gkdawSaasLf8q by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T01:57:59.528479Z
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@swordsie @eris you're a waste of time if you don't even understand that.
(DIR) Post #AAXFBMp1Zinf6K3t44 by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T01:59:22.845648Z
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@dubh @1iceloops123 @eris @swordsie I really wonder if these people know we won the war :PepoThink:
(DIR) Post #AAXFHGfRN2bXkaOOwK by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:00:27.111717Z
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@dubh @1iceloops123 @eris @swordsie the allies won a long time ago, you can relax now, it's been almost 70 years now since the Nazis were a threat
(DIR) Post #AAXFx4FVvnzFOmCIO8 by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T02:05:38Z
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@coyote @1iceloops123 @dubh @eris the risk with taking Ivermectin at home is similar to the risk of taking colloidal silver that is while they are both antibiotics there is no real evidence that they work with coved , and buying them from quckshops and vets to treat yourself runs a very real risk of accidental overdose
(DIR) Post #AAXFx4mpvudr47muKO by dubh@collapsitarian.io
2021-08-21T02:07:59.296322Z
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@swordsie @coyote @1iceloops123 @eris Hush retard.
(DIR) Post #AAXGBvGPcawnsGhW9g by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:10:41.416431Z
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@swordsie @1iceloops123 @dubh @eris how long have you been on twitter? I really have to know, there's no other explanation that I can see to explain your behavior. I don't believe you're a real human, you're a programmed machine intended to wreak havok on anyone you are told to disagree with. You are a tool used for political control. So how long have you been a twitter user?
(DIR) Post #AAXGDY3orRt2USaO36 by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T02:10:24Z
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@coyote @1iceloops123 @dubh @eris also when you parrot the Nuremburg code argument popularised by David ike, piers Corbyn ,and alex jones .. please know that you are stealing from people who are known to plagiarise mein kamf and das capital _regularly_ so are infact parroting from literal nazis and dictatorship of the proles communists
(DIR) Post #AAXGGT5rmi4TxDw4rw by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-21T02:11:29.116932Z
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@coyote @swordsie @eris as an aside, burden of proof in medicine is always biased towards unsafety. The intervention has to prove safety. Which has not been done because Moderna and Pfizer have punctured the placebo group and invalidated the RCT they were required to be doing for the FDA
(DIR) Post #AAXGLHxibADKsXQIBE by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:12:22.974956Z
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@icedquinn @eris @swordsie Thanks for this, I'm unsurprised they've been caught manipulating the trials.
(DIR) Post #AAXGQjAor3vuil90t6 by dubh@collapsitarian.io
2021-08-21T02:13:21.687782Z
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@icedquinn @eris @coyote @swordsie Now they're calling in "data processing" to fudge the conclusion anyway. Just introducing layers of ruin.
(DIR) Post #AAXGRu63jCV6t8Tk6S by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:13:33.995207Z
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@swordsie @1iceloops123 @dubh @eris >logical fallacyWhy should I address you seriously when you can't argue?
(DIR) Post #AAXGaSatLs54CEyqkC by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T02:14:16Z
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@icedquinn @eris @coyote in this case since the vaccines have proven to be highly effective, the default swing lies with taking it as it has been proven highly effective , and its efficay data in trial has now been confirmed even more so via infection rate monitoring .. and case tracking in hospitals it really will reduice your risk of disablement or death
(DIR) Post #AAXGaT5jVCkbjtPToe by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:15:06.396834Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris > 40% effective against delta in 90+% vaccination countries> "proven highly effeftive":trollSmile:
(DIR) Post #AAXGbgtdf4EaqOKtW4 by eris@disqordia.space
2021-08-21T02:14:30.142979Z
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@swordsie @coyote @1iceloops123 @dubh So much arguing from everyone...I'm on the side of getting vaccinated bc I'm tired of being at home, while thinking the rollout effort here has been absolutely trash. People did way more outreach for voting, they had informational booths everywhere, with vaccines it's been a very authoritarian approach with no education, that just isn't working when people have lost faith in American capitalism to not have some ulterior motive. Hell the CIA used vaccines in Afghanistan in 2011 to illegally gather peoples genetic information and vaccination rates there dropped a lot after this became public:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/11/cia-fake-vaccinations-osama-bin-ladens-dna
(DIR) Post #AAXGmW48GoKCRFPFWy by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:17:17.527590Z
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@eris @swordsie @1iceloops123 @dubh Honestly I just want the freedom to choose without coercion, and without being labeled a nazi. If the vaccine is effective and it's really really deadly, then only the unvaxxed are going to be harmed by this. It's a non-starter argument to force it, because if it works there's no risk to the vaccinated.
(DIR) Post #AAXGoeG4mUJKQW0eTQ by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2021-08-21T02:17:40.784761Z
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@swordsie @coyote @eris Whoever told you 4 million people died of covid is lying to you. Most died of complications from obesity and AIDS. 🙄
(DIR) Post #AAXGqE1xGZFFf69l4K by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T02:17:00Z
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@coyote @icedquinn @eris thats effective against preventing any infection not its efficacy when stopping becoming symptomatic not in stopping disablement and death that figure is still 95+
(DIR) Post #AAXGqEWnPtunCkaO8m by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:17:57.753552Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris Look up Antibody Dependent Enhancement and get back to me, that's what happens when a vaccine doesn't prevent infection.
(DIR) Post #AAXGwnzaTRmGvuBd1U by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-21T02:19:08.454812Z
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@coyote @swordsie @eris no. that’s just called vaccine failure. ADE is when the vaccine causes future infections to become worse than if you were not vaccinated.Which was just proven in peer review release this month
(DIR) Post #AAXH13LfK2hxiXXTRw by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:19:55.851572Z
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@icedquinn @eris @swordsie ahh then I misunderstood
(DIR) Post #AAXH3MWazpQ3lqkiq8 by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2021-08-21T02:20:20.203725Z
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@swordsie @coyote @1iceloops123 @dubh @eris Please show me a study that shows ivermectin is no more effective than colloidal silver when it comes to covid, Mr. Wizard.
(DIR) Post #AAXHAPN8o8Vwd4gqH2 by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T02:19:16Z
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@coyote @icedquinn @eris no vaccine ever prevents infection and that's not what antibody dependent enhancement is about
(DIR) Post #AAXHAPt2tW2EE1cK0G by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:21:36.369610Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris good, now tackle the creator of mRNA tech saying it's happening. He's got a lot more experience and expertise and the data backs him up. High vax rate countries are seeing a spike RIGHT NOW. Israel, Gibraltar, Iceland.
(DIR) Post #AAXHFwZOo57l2Q3yV6 by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2021-08-21T02:22:36.633523Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris @coyote False, the vaccine has proved to cause more deaths in people below 50 years of age.
(DIR) Post #AAXHGwFhTQCqLHK7P6 by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:22:48.131429Z
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@Humpleupagus @swordsie @1iceloops123 @dubh @eris yeah they claim a bunch of facts but fold when pressed on them resorts to ad hominem and logical fallacy.
(DIR) Post #AAXHRMi3xajfIJYtIe by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2021-08-21T02:24:40.352367Z
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@coyote @1iceloops123 @dubh @eris @swordsie Exactly. I don't recall anyone seriously claiming colloidal silver was effective against covid, but he has to build his strawman and then attack it.
(DIR) Post #AAXHdwdQDWUABnOCMC by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-21T02:26:56.308501Z
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@Humpleupagus @coyote @1iceloops123 @dubh @eris @swordsie Alex Jones sort of did, he read off s pentagon report about silver colloid being effective antiviral for some things and then implied their silver toothpastes might have similar properties.
(DIR) Post #AAXHncSW5MGuVitxey by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2021-08-21T02:28:41.580209Z
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@icedquinn @1iceloops123 @coyote @dubh @eris @swordsie The man has to sell toothpaste. 🤷♂️
(DIR) Post #AAXHsPRNukq3aDekd6 by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T02:25:32Z
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@coyote @icedquinn @eris high vaccination rate country's are seeing spikes right now because we have removed all restrictions and returned to normal .. so the infection is very endemic, also if you are worried about mrna .. you can always just take jnj that is a conventional, and there is currently no evidence asides that proves that is happening, it has been proposed as a potential area of concern .. but it is no one at this stage credible says it is happening
(DIR) Post #AAXHsPvW6iwR5fkob2 by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:29:34.275092Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris > high vaccination rate country's are seeing spikes right now because we have removed all restrictions and returned to normal .. This is a direct contradiction with what you said previously that the shot is "proven effective". It can't be both because the spikes are worse than places that never did lock down > it has been proposed as a potential area of concern .. Then why isn't anyone looking into it and it's being censored? That's a direct contradiction if the people trying to make the claims aren't allowed to speak.> but it is no one at this stage credible says it is happeningThe person you keep ignoring is Luc Montagnier, and I am almost positive you're either completely dishonest or a complete and total idiot. Take your pick.
(DIR) Post #AAXHtVIBdxsy1NsMjY by eris@disqordia.space
2021-08-21T02:28:08.113956Z
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@coyote @swordsie @icedquinn Im just tired of seeing people drop dead from this thing. I know families that lost their dads bc they didn't believe COVID was even a real issue. Hospitalizations are already starting to get close to the peak of the last wave and it's like 99% unvaccinated folks which could be preventedI feel like we're headed into a scarier situation and I at least want to live past the trans suicide age, if only to spite poast
(DIR) Post #AAXHtVn1nIYVZ2Izo0 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-21T02:29:45.508873Z
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@eris @coyote @swordsie people are dying because all treatments are censored. most hospitalized are in fact vaccinated. and hospitals are firing nurses right now.
(DIR) Post #AAXHzwnsGrJN5Clo1I by eris@disqordia.space
2021-08-21T02:29:58.001299Z
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@icedquinn @dubh @coyote @Humpleupagus @swordsie @1iceloops123 pls don't use colloidal silver you're going to turn blue
(DIR) Post #AAXHzxI0SpPkaerrzE by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-21T02:30:54.738554Z
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@eris @1iceloops123 @Humpleupagus @coyote @dubh @swordsie widowmaker is sexy
(DIR) Post #AAXI0vFFYCrOXU2W1I by shebang@freespeech.group
2021-08-21T02:31:05.037227Z
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@eris @icedquinn @dubh @coyote @Humpleupagus @swordsie @1iceloops123 i’m bluuuuue ba da de bada boo
(DIR) Post #AAXIEMDyYLnLykqlBQ by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2021-08-21T02:33:31.927550Z
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@eris @icedquinn @1iceloops123 @coyote @dubh @swordsie
(DIR) Post #AAXIGxu3R47LPsm8ci by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2021-08-21T02:34:00.249276Z
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@shebang @eris @1iceloops123 @coyote @dubh @icedquinn @swordsie If you were green, you would die.
(DIR) Post #AAXIIwjgkJuUNLs62i by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:34:22.154004Z
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@eris @icedquinn @swordsie Personally I believe the censorship of alternative potential treatments raised the death rate by roughly 30% or more. I don't want people to die, and I don't want to shame people for not getting the vaccine, I just want this obvious tyranny to stop and people to have a choice again.Sorry for your loss, it's not easy.
(DIR) Post #AAXIqXD69kWV3TdywC by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2021-08-21T02:40:25.733732Z
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@coyote @swordsie @eris "The Germans" used typhus as an excuse back then in case you only got knowledge of history from the TV. So if you're calling for "rounding people up" over COVID then we know which side you'd have been on back then... When leftists want to punish the black community for not taking the jab, but they're all like "well, this time it's different" discussion isn't worth having. Also most of the well-known Trump pundits got the vaccine, because guess who was the only one pushing for the longest time... at least get your facts straight.https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/
(DIR) Post #AAXJLKbZ4ZO8wAlybo by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T02:38:38Z
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@coyote @icedquinn @eris if 10 times as many ppl are getting infected .. but twenty to fourty times less ppl are dieing you will still see a spike you ill just have 40 times less corpses nobody is censoring you they are telling you you dont understand things (and you dont) credible people would be somoni saying they had actually observed that effect happening with this illness and one of the vaccines .. that has not happened
(DIR) Post #AAXJLL6PDu3gTpCbgG by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:45:59.005458Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris that doesn't explain anything whatsoever, it doesn't logically follow, but yes insult my intelligence after saying something nonsensical. That makes you look good.You should address all the replies you've been avoiding from Quinn, their arguments are better than mine, and I think you know it. You've been dodging my other points too, yet you haven't referenced a single study, and in fact indicated your ignorance on several points.How long have you been a twitter user? I really have to know
(DIR) Post #AAXJSUMhBPJNEdEN4i by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T02:45:30Z
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@thendrix @eris @coyote dude im not a leftist and i dont want to punish you . if it was up to me id put it in to your bread so you would not even know it was there nobody wants to round you up ... maybee break out the dart gun ... but everyone should be a free range human
(DIR) Post #AAXJSUp3TxzqeaV1HM by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:47:16.981445Z
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@swordsie @thendrix @eris LMAO and I'm the nazi xDD
(DIR) Post #AAXJYGk8k2mYj0x9Jw by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:48:20.607311Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris > nobody is censoring youFalse equivalency, fallacious argument, I never said I'm being censored, I said other credible practicing doctors are being censored.
(DIR) Post #AAXJg5HtDXMZVqSw7c by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-21T02:49:44.218577Z
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@coyote @swordsie @eris https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QAHi3lX3oGM
(DIR) Post #AAXJgLWIriOprBKfoG by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:49:47.173426Z
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@swordsie @thendrix @eris > free range humanDid you know conditions for "free range" animals are often worse than ones in cages?
(DIR) Post #AAXJh498wfc0GNqJSS by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2021-08-21T02:49:55.754155Z
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@coyote @swordsie @eris Talking about doping your food without your consent, and making illusions to you being like livestock. Yikes.
(DIR) Post #AAXJvMGuLwGiX2I1ZI by eris@disqordia.space
2021-08-21T02:51:23.607356Z
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@thendrix @coyote @swordsie no one ever illegally dopes me for my benefit anymore :akasad:
(DIR) Post #AAXJvMsq4ubsQg2Jgu by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2021-08-21T02:52:30.263961Z
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@eris @coyote @swordsie Well, if that's what you're into. Stay safe. 💉
(DIR) Post #AAXK0I1DapXQmzIob2 by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T02:50:11Z
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@coyote @icedquinn @eris its not my fault you dont understand how vaccines work .. im doing my best here to help you understand, that you dont understand dose not make it incomprehensible , it is an indication that you need to stop reading the misinformation you curently are reading and ground yourself in the basis of what you are talking about first
(DIR) Post #AAXK0IZbWz2mVdOHC4 by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:53:23.785662Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris This is a gene therapy, not a traditional vaccine, in your first sentence you've already made a false statement.> my ad hominems didn't convince you> my appeals to authority didn't convince you> I denied evidence without even looking at it and that didn't convince you> my other fallacious arguments and non sequiturs didn't convince you> I was presented a mountain of evidence I chose to ignore> clearly you're the less intelligent one:trollSmile:
(DIR) Post #AAXK3DawUsf3wCPOuO by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T02:53:04Z
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@thendrix @eris @coyote we hgave been dopeing flourwith iron calcium thymine and niacin since like forever .. if you object to predoped bread well you object to every loaf of bread you have ever eaten
(DIR) Post #AAXK3EAON519i8ziAC by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:53:56.023280Z
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@swordsie @thendrix @eris VITAMINS AREN'T A DRUG MORON
(DIR) Post #AAXK6e8GHvHR6vd0HA by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:54:33.408344Z
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@swordsie @eris @thendrix NOR are they a gene therapyHow long have you been a twitter user? I really need to know, it's deathly serious.
(DIR) Post #AAXK78fyj84lqBdLzk by lelouchebag@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T02:54:38.819778Z
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@coyote @swordsie @eris @icedquinn Reminder that the guy who invented mrna vaccines is getting erased because he protested their usage. We both know if he said they were good and fine they'd be touting it 24/7
(DIR) Post #AAXKCC0hl1dNd6jpFw by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:55:33.605568Z
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@lelouchebag @eris @icedquinn @swordsie sword is ignoring the nobel prize laurelate, I'm sure of it.
(DIR) Post #AAXKHnk4tn6s6JdSee by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T02:54:56Z
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@coyote @thendrix @eris sure they are b 1 and b3 and also iron are all prescribed as drugs by doctors
(DIR) Post #AAXKHoB1Hcf1RsEyeG by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T02:56:34.200337Z
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@swordsie @thendrix @eris how long have you been a twitter user to have your head broken in this bad?
(DIR) Post #AAXKIhk0hEKVmK2CK8 by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2021-08-21T02:56:43.786575Z
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@swordsie @eris @coyote Ah, you don't know who you're talking to here... I know what is in my flour. I used to have it bulk ground when I lived in the PNW.That's very different from your comments of literal doping. You don't know the vaccine will literally kill some people, and that's why their doctor bars them from taking it? Suggesting everyone should get it regardless is very authoritarian/ collectivist of you, but you should be more informed.
(DIR) Post #AAXKLIZGkKOwZdFOQy by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T02:57:11.761456Z
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@swordsie @coyote @icedquinn @eris vaccines are supposed to prevent infection lolcope
(DIR) Post #AAXKW1JfEC3AFo3ow4 by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T02:58:17Z
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@hakui @icedquinn @eris @coyote no vaccine has ever prevented infection, they prevent illness not infection
(DIR) Post #AAXKW1n5SnaNj3pJnU by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T02:59:07.903778Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris @coyote try reading a dead paper book, not something that can be revised on the internet
(DIR) Post #AAXKcqFilDEdy4T916 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T03:00:21.600895Z
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@swordsie @coyote @icedquinn @eris >if 10 times as many ppl are getting infected .. but twenty to fourty times less ppl are dieing you will still see a spike you ill just have 40 times less corpses if people are no longer dying why do we even need the "vaccine"
(DIR) Post #AAXKfpQQIEigGptnsm by neo@mk.comfysnug.space
2021-08-21T03:00:54.138Z
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@coyote@enitor.xyz @swordsie@mstdn.social @thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com @eris@disqordia.space natsee
(DIR) Post #AAXKjQVmrYVsA37jhg by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:01:33.946904Z
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@neo @eris @thendrix @swordsie oh no, someone labeled me a nazi, I am defeated
(DIR) Post #AAXKlWraDdBwRIJyj2 by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T03:00:28Z
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@thendrix @eris @coyote i have never said anyone who is too frain as ordered by a doctor should take it , and obviously in the cases of those who have had prior anaphylactic episodes should be monitored when taking any new medication
(DIR) Post #AAXKlXLiPbIJwkQ2gy by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2021-08-21T03:01:55.654980Z
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@swordsie @eris @coyote if it was up to me id put it in to your bread so you would not even know it was there Sorry, kid. You’re losing the debate with yourself. I’m teleporting behind someone else.
(DIR) Post #AAXKlzfB8pV5lDjyuu by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T03:01:20Z
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@hakui @icedquinn @eris @coyote because the vaccine is what's stopping ppl from dying ...
(DIR) Post #AAXKm07tQ4T9CHAufo by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T03:02:00.769345Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris @coyote and the rain dance is what's causing the rain, got it
(DIR) Post #AAXKpNoJonadWNdFJo by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2021-08-21T03:02:38.452805Z
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@neo @eris @coyote @swordsie Yahtzee!
(DIR) Post #AAXKrNTM2wV13GmFrE by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:02:59.439467Z
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@swordsie @hakui @icedquinn @eris then why are deaths and case rates higher than they were without the vaccine? i don't think someone who compares an essential vitamin to am experimental gene therapy is qualified or able to talk about health subjects.How long have you been a Twitter user?
(DIR) Post #AAXL28MKZsCVMdcZ0q by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T03:04:56.286658Z
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@coyote @swordsie @eris @icedquinn uhhhhhh the "delta variant"!or small bombs, i dunnoimage.png
(DIR) Post #AAXL3qmCv7snPaXj3w by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-21T03:05:13.891839Z
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@coyote @swordsie @eris @hakui more damning is from I think Wolfgang who pointed out infection rates rose simultaneously everywhere that vaccination started when it should have taken days for natural spread to happen
(DIR) Post #AAXL9XZJFSJPZoDuT2 by neo@mk.comfysnug.space
2021-08-21T03:06:16.334Z
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@thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com @swordsie@mstdn.social @eris@disqordia.space @coyote@enitor.xyz nothing personell, kid.
(DIR) Post #AAXLBjoagfLQ8aQ2AS by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T03:02:18Z
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@coyote @neo @thendrix @eris well if you are not a Nazis you are definitely getting your information from them
(DIR) Post #AAXLBkJmogIXhL0wnA by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:06:38.814893Z
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@swordsie @neo @thendrix @eris you think Alex Jones is a Jewish Nazi, I'm not sure why you think your opinion is valid.
(DIR) Post #AAXLDd26sCg5gOdyz2 by neo@mk.comfysnug.space
2021-08-21T03:07:00.448Z
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@swordsie@mstdn.social @thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com @eris@disqordia.space @coyote@enitor.xyz "If it was up to me i would FORCE AN EXPERIMENTAL MEDICINE ON YOU, FUCK YOUR CONSENT"Ok nazi.
(DIR) Post #AAXLTm4X2AOMLmTYES by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2021-08-21T03:09:55.985094Z
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@neo @eris @coyote @swordsie
(DIR) Post #AAXLUKHppDEeSsxegi by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T03:07:36Z
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@coyote @neo @thendrix @eris becouse alex Jones is a nazi
(DIR) Post #AAXLUKoRrxK662DhWS by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:10:01.026479Z
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@swordsie @neo @thendrix @eris He's married to a jew, has jews in his family. let me guess, you're one of those people that thinks ben shapiro is a nazi?
(DIR) Post #AAXLY4UySzb0eotQNU by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T03:10:22Z
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@neo @eris @coyote @thendrix its not an experimental medicine , and honestly you not knowing would be better than whatever this collective psychosis is this is not a nazi thing btw .. governments do this all the time .. its why we give combi vaccines to ppl when they are babies its less psychologically traumatic than making a child go thru like 15 different injections
(DIR) Post #AAXLY4uqumIPx505iK by neo@mk.comfysnug.space
2021-08-21T03:10:41.570Z
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@swordsie@mstdn.social @eris@disqordia.space @coyote@enitor.xyz @thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com Why don't you tell me that work will set me free too, nazi?
(DIR) Post #AAXLbFCh7b1mjAr6jg by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2021-08-21T03:11:17.096488Z
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@neo @coyote @eris @swordsie OK, I'm out of this heck thread. :3
(DIR) Post #AAXLeG1UX2B88a3Ijg by neo@mk.comfysnug.space
2021-08-21T03:11:49.820Z
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@coyote@enitor.xyz @swordsie@mstdn.social @thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com @eris@disqordia.space Don't forget guys, making fun of Ben Shapiro for never having seen wet pussy is Ace-phobic.
(DIR) Post #AAXLmRQA2SA7nuUf4q by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:13:18.889334Z
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@neo @eris @thendrix @swordsie he's seen his sister's giant melons, I'm sure of it lmao
(DIR) Post #AAXLt4xhwGCoAyLkvY by neo@mk.comfysnug.space
2021-08-21T03:14:30.116Z
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@coyote@enitor.xyz @eris@disqordia.space @thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com @swordsie@mstdn.social I've seen a lot of girls titties in a nonsexual way. People tend to get really drunk here during holidays
(DIR) Post #AAXM6pl7GByH4w1FE8 by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T03:13:21Z
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@coyote @neo @thendrix @eris alex jones believes in a secret world government lead by Zionist occupiers that plot to make the world gay and control everyone's lives via currency manipulations, this is literally the premise of mein kampf
(DIR) Post #AAXM6qEBW7DuX5cSXI by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:16:58.591904Z
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@swordsie @neo @thendrix @eris Lmao how long have you been reading mein kampf?? I've never read it, NAZI
(DIR) Post #AAXMBCxCxnfQAulECO by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T03:14:58Z
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@coyote @neo @thendrix @eris also umm why would you guys assume i give a fuck about ben shipiro
(DIR) Post #AAXMBDMNSDnfQyXKQi by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:17:46.865685Z
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@swordsie @neo @thendrix @eris how long have you been a twitter user prior to joining The Mastodon Network?
(DIR) Post #AAXMesfmvr1pxilIVE by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T03:19:21Z
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@coyote @neo @thendrix @eris i have read it a couple of times its key in understanding nazi ideology , also just since you really wanna know .. i have never actually made a post on twitter
(DIR) Post #AAXMetC2zuphZlr3mi by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:23:07.994369Z
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@swordsie @neo @thendrix @eris lmao you're so well read~~ much better nazi than me clearly!you clearly can't understand basic english and you've been playing bullshit games dodging evidence you can't argue with, you learned this from somewhere, maybe it was your parents, or your teachers, idk. Idc either. I'm going to assume you're lying and you have 2+ years on a major social media site behaving exactly like this and wondering why you don't get respect.
(DIR) Post #AAXMkizTqNsHfcl8SG by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:24:12.634881Z
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@swordsie @eris @neo @thendrix missing the forest for the trees is common in people like you
(DIR) Post #AAXN3fKffYOZpJhdTc by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T03:27:37.865200Z
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@coyote @eris @neo @swordsie @thendrix 110 iq problems
(DIR) Post #AAXNFZzzKDx4lAi3Ky by neo@mk.comfysnug.space
2021-08-21T03:29:46.466Z
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@coyote@enitor.xyz @swordsie@mstdn.social @icedquinn@blob.cat @eris@disqordia.space
(DIR) Post #AAXNsHZjkyzWuksyci by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T03:26:08Z
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@coyote @neo @thendrix @erisi mean those are all personal attacks not points
(DIR) Post #AAXNsI0KA8G6FDKD44 by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:36:45.582444Z
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@swordsie @neo @thendrix @eris > makes personal attacks and no points> complains about personal attacks> totally ignores 80% of the evidence presentedAre you deserving of anything else? You're functionally retarded.
(DIR) Post #AAXNyiEbYGANKl4Ea0 by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:37:56.570623Z
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@swordsie @neo @thendrix @eris you're fundamentally a hypocrite with no principles
(DIR) Post #AAXO8gMnLpvGR7eV96 by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:39:44.054826Z
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@swordsie @eris @neo @thendrix > labels people> just don't label meHow can I tell you're either a retard or a liar?
(DIR) Post #AAXOS0HZWrZjhqQFKS by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T03:39:59Z
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@coyote @neo @thendrix @eris please go to something like khan academy and take a high school biology course it will give you the kind of underpinning you need to be able to understand the kinds of topics are trying to talk about
(DIR) Post #AAXOS0qfQNeFSgqH20 by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:43:13.545338Z
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@swordsie @neo @thendrix @eris you ignored all of the evidence presented, made patently false claims, and accused people who refuse the shot of being Nazis multiple times in this threadYou've got no room to address anyone's faults but your own. Maybe a self-administered hot lead injection to the head would help.
(DIR) Post #AAXOhlFvAJlrjeADtg by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:46:04.624725Z
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@swordsie @neo @thendrix @eris is that all the education you think is needed to understand everything that's been discussed? You literally think a high school biology class and some internet research is enough to debunk a 60+ year career, nobel prizes, and he INVENTED THE FUCKING MRNA VACCINE FOR FUCKS SAKE. You keep ignoring 80% of what's said to focus on things that are totally immaterial to the argument. You're retarded.
(DIR) Post #AAXOnecuj22WuejEuW by neo@mk.comfysnug.space
2021-08-21T03:47:08.220Z
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@coyote@enitor.xyz take a quick break, you're letting this troll get you too riled up.
(DIR) Post #AAXPvIV4yTS8YmGxBg by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T03:54:50Z
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@coyote @neo @thendrix @eris no one person invented the mrna vaccines this was a task done by literally thousands of ppl over about 3 decades, also the doctor you are citing did not infact say the things you think are attributed to him, he has raised some concerns like some others that the virus may have been man made, but the nonsense your misattributing to him is simply a fiction and he did not invent the mrna vaccine , he was an aids researcher, also yes high school biology would help you,
(DIR) Post #AAXPvJ5Eo2NOMvBpY0 by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T03:59:43.863860Z
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@swordsie @neo @thendrix @eris You're a fucking idiot https://odysee.com/@sarahwestall:0/Montagnier:1Muting this thread because you never even looked, and you prefer to lie and spread misinfo repeatedly.. Commit suicide.
(DIR) Post #AAXQilTi1XiMcgDfMG by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T04:00:56Z
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@coyote @neo @thendrix @eris i guess its simpler to tell ppl to go die than admit you were misinformed
(DIR) Post #AAXS9OssEhsQJzFqym by galena@paws.moe
2021-08-21T04:24:41.475597Z
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@thendrix @coyote @eris @swordsie As always, the first people to throw around nazi accusations reveal themselves to be fascists in disguise. Happens every single time.
(DIR) Post #AAXUCAFzHB2tjVVmbo by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T04:47:36.041569Z
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@coyote @swordsie @eris @neo @thendrix please be patienthe has permanent brain fog from the "vaccination"
(DIR) Post #AAXURgug8vCNMHwraq by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T04:50:23.966888Z
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@swordsie @coyote @neo @thendrix @eris "'electron probability cloud'??? don't be silly electrons move in orbits around the nucleus like take a high school physics course so you don't embarrass yourself"
(DIR) Post #AAXUz4xlkNd1VJJYnY by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T04:56:26.577124Z
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@swordsie @hakui @icedquinn @eris @coyote where are you coming up with this stuff? vaccines don't prevent exposure, they allow you mount an immune response and contain and eliminate infection before it spreads and causes diseaseat least, IN THEORY this is what they do, however the covid vax doesn't, beacuse it's approximately 0% effectiveyou're allowing the pharma shills to redefine what an effective vaccine is
(DIR) Post #AAXV8MUxv6pyUmGgs4 by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T04:58:07.254764Z
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@swordsie @eris >those refusing vaccines need to be bulliedthis is not going to turn out how you expect. i'm warning you, you do not want this fight once it starts
(DIR) Post #AAXVCOsh0GMX2lIAYy by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T04:58:50.649704Z
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@meowski @swordsie @coyote @eris @icedquinn socrates was right about books(t. can't remember the actual quote without looking it up and being at risk of getting bamboozled
(DIR) Post #AAXVPq1LPVEkyokLCK by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2021-08-21T05:01:16.412307Z
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@ew @swordsie @coyote @eris @neo @thendrix If Nazis had an IQ of 130, then I must be a Super-Nazi. 🤔
(DIR) Post #AAXVUg7ldGd5jc3hrM by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T05:02:09.069766Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @swordsie what did he say about books
(DIR) Post #AAXVkRvWBbwSKpqjY0 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T05:05:00.051675Z
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@meowski @coyote @eris @icedquinn @swordsie he recalled (!!) a conversation between thamus and thoth, the latter who invented writing and was confident that his invention will make egyptians have better memory and wisdomthamus says that writing will on the contrary make people more forgetful because they just look things up instead of having to remember themwhich is exactly what's happening in our age
(DIR) Post #AAXW0pxQbl9vUyYba4 by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T05:07:56.941032Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @swordsie there might be something to that. people do have a tendency to look something up and repeat what an expert says rather than employ some reasoning and their own experience
(DIR) Post #AAXWBYF6oNq5k5w6KG by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T05:09:54.109454Z
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@meowski @coyote @eris @icedquinn @swordsie by classical standards, we are all degenerates, myself includedit's just unfortunate
(DIR) Post #AAXWY3y1XdeSVMgAVc by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T05:13:58.194952Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @swordsie people tend to view history with a certain bias though. only the smart and influential people and the innovators get remembered. i honestly don't think people are any dumber on average now, there's just a lot more of us and they all happen to be here right now mindlessly repeating the dogma (which is wrong, as it often is)
(DIR) Post #AAXWg2VmpwBWJ8H6ie by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T05:15:24.485341Z
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@meowski @coyote @eris @icedquinn @swordsie i doubt it but okay
(DIR) Post #AAXWmnITnpVF9CGteK by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T05:16:37.938977Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @swordsie i'm just trying to be optimistic and assume that we're always moving forward and evolving toward something better
(DIR) Post #AAXXETQdGbdpdPHdb6 by shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu
2021-08-21T05:21:08.566948Z
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@hakui @meowski this is what whole esoteric writing tradition was about; "if the normal-people knew what i was saying bad things would happen"
(DIR) Post #AAXXIMMjT6igt6JQTg by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T05:22:19.833957Z
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@shmibs @meowski turns out leaving it in writing didn't matter too much if people didn't know what they were reading
(DIR) Post #AAXXQlPwD7qwtuoqJ6 by rlier23@varishangout.net
2021-08-21T05:23:50.854357Z
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@swordsie @eris fuckin hellok i'll bite
(DIR) Post #AAXYoRXjr0OGANK4xM by shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu
2021-08-21T05:39:16.970385Z
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@hakui @meowski that's kind of why it matters though, or one reason why at least (reason number two belowesoteric writing (going back to mr socrates) was supposed to avoid two big dangers, both of which are kind of now happening since academic discussion opened up to the world- defensive "if the normal-people knew i was trespassing against the dogma they would attack / excommunicate / execute me", see the whole "cancelling" thing applied to e.g. people discussing lab leak scenario- protective "if the normal-people had access to my real opinions they wouldn't have the necessary prerequisite knowledge to evaluate them, and so would misinterpret and disseminate those misinterpretations, or fall victim to being misled by people intentionally misinterpreting", e.g. "this (retracted isolate) study proves that 〇〇 causes autism, and that's why you need to buy my oleander homeopathy eyedrops"so became standard practice to on the face of things write in accordance with popular dogma while hinting at real meaning underneath for people to find, or split things up like aristotle into "public facing" and "expert facing" writing. of course then you get called a straussian and everyone hates you for lying to them, so
(DIR) Post #AAXZaeVGyHQgGI9oae by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T05:48:02.955291Z
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@shmibs @meowski oh so that's what you meant by "knew" in "if the normal-people knew what i was saying bad things would happen"
(DIR) Post #AAXaa0g78kN6hUUBcG by shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu
2021-08-21T05:59:04.307182Z
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@hakui @meowski mmm, "knew i dare consider alternatives to the norm" or "knew the actual words i'm saying without having the means to correctly evaluate them"feels kind of hopeless. small-club science is untenable now (and anyways can't actually improve the world much), but open science is so too vulnerable to this pair of outcomes. only thing feels might help a little is better education and science communication, but then it's a balancing act trying to avoid talking over peoples' heads, oversimplifying so they get the wrong idea, and offending so they go and think/tell everyone the opposite
(DIR) Post #AAXb0lEUfr1icFK3OK by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T06:03:58.595456Z
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@shmibs @hakui >balancing act trying to avoid talking over peoples' headssounds kind of pretentious tbh. how much aderall do you take
(DIR) Post #AAXbFZu351j5oxpCc4 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:06:39.252184Z
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@meowski ? i thought @shmibs was just talking about pedagogy
(DIR) Post #AAXbbR3SerNAkXeLuC by shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu
2021-08-21T06:10:33.438599Z
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@hakui @meowski mmm, like can't go to 13 old or middleschool graduate and immediately discuss e.g. information theory without having first gone over probability theorybecomes big inter-sciences problem now too since it's so difficult for a person to become an expert in even just one field, how to share relevant incites and discoveries, so not like a "you're just too stupid to understand" situation
(DIR) Post #AAXbdKsYaglQAtSJI8 by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T06:10:56.921145Z
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@hakui @shmibs in the context of academics being these benevolent protectors of knowledge which they really aren't, for the most partin fact they're mostly just shills who are doing nothing but making more of themselvesthen sprinkle in some of the little deboonking jabs against such and such (vaccines, obviously) causing autism, which by the way, they do- mix that with muh homeopathyanyway you get the ideapeople like this are disgusting and this psychotic drivel is typical of people who are twacked out on amphetamines, thinking they're a lot smarter than they are
(DIR) Post #AAXcFstaZ9gYgCJsiO by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:17:54.517247Z
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@meowski @shmibs oh i ignored the bad take about vaccines and homeopathy since this isn't a vaccine threadbut you do agree that learned men (not talking about academics) are frequently misunderstood across history yes?
(DIR) Post #AAXcaumakEu0c74hqi by shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu
2021-08-21T06:21:40.360831Z
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@hakui @meowski (never said anything about vaccination either
(DIR) Post #AAXcpvJj2XzocBjIbw by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T06:24:25.717753Z
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@hakui @shmibs communicating ideas clearly and knowing your audience are important if you want to get your ideas across. there are some people who are good at communicating complex ideas simplywhile other people try to make simple ideas sound overly complex because they're pretentious condescending ass holes who are actually insecure when it comes down to iti have no patience for these people
(DIR) Post #AAXcsRKUzPJ6TlI7TU by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:24:52.574661Z
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@shmibs @meowski doesn't matter, i ignored that example but your point still makes sensei can easily replace the example with trump referring to the UV light in a tube thing and people going "OHHHHH HE'S SAYING TO INJECT BLEACH" and it will still work
(DIR) Post #AAXcvPrUu324nO94SG by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T06:25:25.362216Z
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@shmibs @hakui oh really what were you implying caused autism that some hypothetical person was going to offer homeopathy as a cure for
(DIR) Post #AAXdNWHccczmorlX1c by shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu
2021-08-21T06:30:27.057818Z
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@meowski @hakui wasn't implying anything, which is why 〇〇like there are random retracted studies out there for whatever unexpected connection attention-wanting science-person can think of, especially around hot topics like autism / cancer / whatever, and an army of opportunists using them to sell placebo or slightly-poisonous miracle cures
(DIR) Post #AAXdYQAZh11f2lfRtQ by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T06:32:28.262302Z
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@shmibs @hakui what i'm hearing is "common people can't handle science, they will misinterpret and abuse this knowledge"anyway just how much amphetamines, tell me. it's ok.
(DIR) Post #AAXdfQT0z9eRzddItE by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:33:43.996521Z
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@hakui @meowski @coyote @eris @icedquinn @swordsie He was right about most things. Except the whole shadows on walls thing, he didn't realize MOST people have depth perception.
(DIR) Post #AAXdhW7uui1E7qlI3M by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:34:06.527457Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie i hope you're being ironic
(DIR) Post #AAXdmEP2EpDGbV15H6 by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:34:58.125936Z
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@hakui @meowski @coyote @eris @icedquinn @swordsie The problem is humanity on the whole would become more forgetful without books. Brains rot a lot faster than dead tree pulp as it turns out, Hakui.
(DIR) Post #AAXdr89Gv1EeedymuW by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:35:50.457205Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie they only rot because people keep feeding them garbagein a world without writing the problem is self correcting
(DIR) Post #AAXdrIYSEFJwvdq2YC by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:35:53.064686Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie I'm aware he probably didn't think that metaphor would actually work, but it was always something I got stuck on. Even if they were born in the cave, they'd never confuse shadows for real people and things.
(DIR) Post #AAXdw0XqcGKwWJng92 by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T06:36:44.040779Z
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@hakui @Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @swordsie reject paperreturn to monke
(DIR) Post #AAXdwCalpDnxsrGBMm by shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu
2021-08-21T06:36:43.174582Z
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@meowski @hakui because that's basically what i'm saying, yes, along with plato/socrates (socratic method) and every other pre-enlightenment thinker-person. understanding a thing requires a progressive chain of studying a to understand b to understand c, and a person without a and b can misinterpret c and draw the wrong conclusion...and none? meth guys are scary
(DIR) Post #AAXdwjaDAJxwCgFhZo by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:36:52.014945Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie I'm talking about death. People die. And oral transmission of information has serious problems with remaining stable.
(DIR) Post #AAXdzF2bB1lsLbj3qK by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:37:18.780837Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie the allegory itself is a shadow and you're fixated on it
(DIR) Post #AAXe1umiwdhuORZj96 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:37:48.051805Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie wasn't a problem for the vedas
(DIR) Post #AAXe4qoo9FW0xbwxf6 by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:38:20.001892Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie Sure. After they wrote it down in Sanskrit and burned all the versions that had any variance.
(DIR) Post #AAXe5qLXOAwPmmjSe8 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:38:30.543128Z
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@meowski @Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @swordsie neuron activationmpv-shot0055.jpg
(DIR) Post #AAXe8HAQdmmDY3hDnM by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:38:57.187488Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie Yes. I need a certain degree of immersion for a metaphor to not be ridiculed by me.
(DIR) Post #AAXe9Wle7nIcDmhWzo by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T06:39:10.528685Z
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@shmibs @hakui i have less than zero patience (and tax money) for elitist scientists who think they need to sequester knowledge away from the unwashed masses. this is a dangerous ideology. don't bs me either, i know you're on aderall or something like that
(DIR) Post #AAXeEiNKOXApfbnenQ by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:40:06.207631Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie have fun staying in the cave
(DIR) Post #AAXeIN55VYSkmm0nNg by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:40:46.637036Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie I mean, we've known of each other for a good half decade now, what shadows am I being tricked by?
(DIR) Post #AAXePKfUsQgBKVMSTA by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:42:01.457870Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie >oral transmission of information has serious problems with remaining stable>but writings, which i insinuated can be modified and obsolete versions burnt, have no problems being stablelad
(DIR) Post #AAXeUrpH1bIvc9ZbpQ by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:43:01.876188Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie focusing on how the allegory is presented instead of what it's trying to say
(DIR) Post #AAXeVjeUtsloYMwlWq by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:43:11.562655Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie Yes, copies can be destroyed, but every single time you orally transmit something, it mutates. A written copy has to be either destroyed or tampered with physically.
(DIR) Post #AAXeZb3anbqz3PWgKG by shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu
2021-08-21T06:43:50.573724Z
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@meowski @hakui i'm not, and you're getting weirdly fixatedand if you read above was talking about is the opposite of sequestering, rather trying expressly to spread knowledge. sequestering is not even an option at this point, and i prefer the more open modern world where anyone can try to learn anything; it's way more fun and interesting. just potential pitfalls exist; need a way to try and minimise those (probably hopeless but
(DIR) Post #AAXeastlwxX6g7Xy7s by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:44:07.153633Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie >but every single time you orally transmit something, it mutatesshitty scribes mutate whatever they're copying too
(DIR) Post #AAXebWPh2DEvEPmVnM by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:44:14.295230Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie The problem is you'd never know if you were really out of the cave. You'd never be sure you were in the 'real' world because you don't just get over EVERYTHING you thought was real being fake. You always wonder after that.
(DIR) Post #AAXefaNGFb1ofqa7zU by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:44:58.167524Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie it's turtles all the way out
(DIR) Post #AAXenbIUhbWXqzAq3s by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:46:25.251824Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie At most, we're proving preserving history is ultimately futile since all records will be either altered to being completely different or destroyed. Could take thousands of years, but it WILL happen.
(DIR) Post #AAXerVtkiZ7SGcT0jY by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:47:07.706418Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie Tortoises*
(DIR) Post #AAXevaewxQbgByUGHo by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:47:51.452769Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie people ignoring unconnected smoke stacks and wooden doors already proved you don't need thousands of years loljust a few decades
(DIR) Post #AAXf0TP9MH0P8iQQE4 by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T06:48:44.759825Z
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@shmibs @hakui you just made several long posts describing the dangers of having normal people try to interpret science, sprinkled with vague debunking of conspiracy theoriesthis dogmatic approach is far more harmful than making information accessible. it's not your problem if people misinterpret it. the're going to do that anyway. and you're going to misinterpret it too
(DIR) Post #AAXf0hs1ZiQA0K2gAy by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:48:47.409972Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie So, one never knows if he's out of the cave. If you cannot verify past events yourself, what you are presented may as well BE the truth.
(DIR) Post #AAXfBS6wVa50JS8ztQ by shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu
2021-08-21T06:50:40.630876Z
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@meowski @hakui either you didn't read or you misinterpreted
(DIR) Post #AAXfDQZBDp9o6MIGqO by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:51:05.100854Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie you're getting close to it
(DIR) Post #AAXfLk5EXfniwuFdo0 by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:52:35.498026Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie To the hole in the cave's floor?
(DIR) Post #AAXfObOrHdfYt1nJT6 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:53:05.909487Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie guess it was just my imagination
(DIR) Post #AAXfVJJEwUM4o4MhSy by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T06:54:19.081490Z
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@shmibs @hakui i read your posts.what happens when this enlightened priest class of scientists who has taken it upon themselves to do the interpretation for us are the ones misinterpreting it? "trust the experts. this is the consensus" at the same time "we're putting this taxpayer funded research behind a paywall but it'll be free to our academic priest friends" very sick
(DIR) Post #AAXfVehlOVRvAD056e by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:54:23.012384Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie You do have a very active one... But the fact remains, writing is useful. Does a useful thing often come with drawbacks? Yes, in fact most useful things do. But if the pros outweigh the cons... it's still worth it.
(DIR) Post #AAXfiz8El5Q8HVjt32 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:56:46.977195Z
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@meowski i think you need to reframe it a bitthink of all the normalfaggots who fucking love science regurgitating the obviously wrong clickbait that clueless journos tangentially churn out of legitimate researchthose are what @shmibs are talking about
(DIR) Post #AAXfqC0vGIAYGGkrCq by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T06:58:05.089897Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie like the industrial revolution, it's a one way street and it's hard to go backjust something we have to live with and might as well use it if we do
(DIR) Post #AAXfxQ5LLLtnviGiIK by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T06:59:24.061047Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie I mean, you do like your dip pens, I recall...
(DIR) Post #AAXg5lPlvOQsOmnpPk by shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu
2021-08-21T07:00:51.356804Z
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@meowski @hakui then misinterpreting, mmm. said was like this:- there is a problem. people without prerequisite context will misinterpret things and draw bad conclusions -> hurt themselves and others- classical esoterics' response was to hide away their thinking from the public in an "elites only" club- that's no longer an option, and anyways the world is better off with open access knowledge- only alternative i can think of is promoting education and communication- that's really difficult to do well, and could potentially even make things worse, but gotta try
(DIR) Post #AAXgICpdoWEwuHpsHI by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T07:03:09.287300Z
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@hakui @shmibs quite the opposite. in the past 2 days shmibs has been shilling hard for vaccines, so under their world view, those soy faced reddit science lovers are the ones who have received the knowledge correctly- they repeat the consensus dogma and don't challenge it. it's those weird homeopathy people who also think [mystery thing] causes autism cause they read a retracted study that are dangerousbut what if they don't actually believe in homeopathyand what if that study was retracted because industry shill people pulled strings at their bought and paid for academic journals, and the study was actually good
(DIR) Post #AAXggywqZQfV5R1JlA by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T07:07:38.017237Z
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@shmibs @hakui >draw bad conclusions -> hurt themselves not as badly as when bureaucrats draw the conclusions without oversight>that's no longer an optionyet it's still widespread>promoting education and communication ... could potentially even make things worseat least we agree on something
(DIR) Post #AAXgkYH1gh7lW1A3Oa by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T07:08:16.132075Z
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@meowski i know you've only interacted with @shmibs in vaccine threads but this is not a vaccine threadi don't sperg out when others bring up the holocaust as an example in their argument if they're truly unaware
(DIR) Post #AAXgrjmdIDolEuN4wS by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T07:09:34.586129Z
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@hakui @shmibs [thing] causes autism based on retracted study combined with comments yesterday is why i brought it upi'm not making it about vaccines either though. that's just an example
(DIR) Post #AAXh8BnGv2OYkGVzY8 by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T07:12:33.038141Z
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@hakui @shmibs pick your example of modern scientific consensus that is dead wrong. whatever you want. would you prefer global warming? water fluoridation? gmo foods? antidepressant drugs?
(DIR) Post #AAXhRHmUsjHsojG5iq by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T07:15:59.399867Z
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@meowski @shmibs yes, they all work as examples and people should learn how the data is collected etc so they don't just parrot journos
(DIR) Post #AAXi2NyOp5QajgW4au by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T07:22:42.414506Z
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@hakui @shmibs ps scroll back to the original post in this thread. it is actually a vaccine thread (unfortunately)i'm going for a run. no hard feelings against anyone. just tired of being gaslit by experts who are wrong
(DIR) Post #AAXi73skwrE7sA6f3o by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T07:23:33.003455Z
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@meowski @shmibs yes it was originally a vaccine thread but i thought we managed to branch off into socrates
(DIR) Post #AAXiB4ZuIp6JBoCcka by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T07:24:16.654664Z
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@hakui @shmibs yea i know
(DIR) Post #AAXiDgltGuwaDt3Tv6 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T07:24:44.615076Z
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@meowski @shmibs anyw remember to drink more water after the run
(DIR) Post #AAXiIOz6pX1EVRUA40 by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-21T07:25:36.170192Z
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@hakui @shmibs ty. i have lots of distilled water to chug after i get back
(DIR) Post #AAY37RZYxwvGNu9VmC by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T10:24:03Z
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@hakui @icedquinn @eris @coyote @meowski @Neo_Dolus when you iuse philosophical points .. as attempted proofs to discredit established scientific facts ir might be time just to give over and accept that you are scientifically illiterate
(DIR) Post #AAY37S9inVqWC34O8W by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T11:18:54.470744Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris @coyote @meowski @Neo_Dolus i know the "vaccine" has impaired your concentration and made it hard to keep up but that was a segue to a different topic about how people like you are reliant on looking things up because you can't hold anything worth remembering in your mind, and not about trying to discredit "scientific facts" (which are just the sources you look up and don't need any additional discrediting anyway
(DIR) Post #AAY64CSF1AkQUSsA08 by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T11:27:25Z
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@hakui @icedquinn @eris @coyote @meowski @Neo_Dolus so your argument there is that looking things up to get additional information when you are unsure about a thing is stupid ?
(DIR) Post #AAY64D5aesDuSVHaKm by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T11:51:56.165636Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris @coyote @meowski @Neo_Dolus yes it's stupid, but that's not the argumentthe argument is that you look things up and regurgitate them without even thinking about them, which if you did would reveal multiple holes in your sources' claims
(DIR) Post #AAY6eBoMt14Iv9NpjM by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T11:57:51Z
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@hakui @icedquinn @eris @coyote @meowski @Neo_Dolus says the person who thinks vaccination can make you stupid
(DIR) Post #AAY6eCLKuRRKZOoA7M by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T11:58:26.977286Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris @coyote @meowski @Neo_Dolus well the proof is replying to me right now so
(DIR) Post #AAY6oxn3MCvkcVuDQG by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T11:59:48Z
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@hakui @icedquinn @eris @coyote @meowski @Neo_Dolus how so ?
(DIR) Post #AAY6oyDdlMCJwyLRrc by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T12:00:23.780723Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris @coyote @meowski @Neo_Dolus by your performance in this thread so far
(DIR) Post #AAY721IDe5YPFRi1om by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T12:00:44Z
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@hakui @icedquinn @eris @coyote @meowski @Neo_Dolus but why ?
(DIR) Post #AAY721lzrNNCjndoES by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-21T12:02:44.240596Z
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@swordsie @icedquinn @eris @meowski @Neo_Dolus i believe looking at @coyote 's replies would answer your question
(DIR) Post #AAY8Yqz3600qmjxkHo by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T12:19:54.349414Z
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@hakui @swordsie @Neo_Dolus @eris @icedquinn @meowski this thread is still going? I missed a bit it seems
(DIR) Post #AAY8k3yN8vQcFtzWDo by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-21T12:21:55.050668Z
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@coyote @hakui @Neo_Dolus @eris @meowski @swordsie I highly doubt we missed anything
(DIR) Post #AAY99MdMtjtpN7EOoa by coyote@enitor.xyz
2021-08-21T12:26:29.712085Z
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@icedquinn @Neo_Dolus @eris @hakui @meowski @swordsie I went through it and the bit about the cave shadows and such was worth reading, but that was between hakui and dolus
(DIR) Post #AAYIBwlwPIADcSY0WG by eris@disqordia.space
2021-08-21T00:15:51.193878Z
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@swordsie I mean eugenics is still alive and well though I totally understand the distrust, while I also get wanting to bully them you just can't force people's bodily autonomy, you have to do education and outreach. POC especially have totally valid reasons to not trust being forced to get it
(DIR) Post #AAYIBxKKLRfZL6dT7I by swordsie@mstdn.social
2021-08-21T00:22:51Z
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@eris i guess i get the point with some of the medication experimentation that happened in America .. but this is an America specific problem, and this would not be the first time that we have had to to override bodily autonomy to reduce potential harm to other ppl most modern countries have had compulsory vaccination programmed for polio tuberculosis and smallpox, it seems to my mind over the next year especially where _everyone_ will have viral contact its better to scare ppl than dead them
(DIR) Post #AAYIBy6BTVwzjX1gi8 by Elfie@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-21T14:07:47.157010Z
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@swordsie @erisThis isn't an América only problem, biological warfare and unauthorised experimentation has always existed across the worldThe fact you think it's an América only problem shows both your bad faith and ignorance on the subject you're trying to talk about
(DIR) Post #AAYJ33BzGf2ysY3IA4 by Elfie@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-21T14:17:23.491746Z
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@icedquinn @eris @swordsieDon't call dumb people nazi, that's a label for COOL :02_sip: peopleThat said, what's the deal with selective pressure,? Did they planned this to the last detail and aren't afraid of creating something that can't be stopped or are they just completely uncaring?Tbh I'm okay with a world ending disease I just hope it isn't infertility because that would SUCK
(DIR) Post #AAYLW66lho4QEDabvk by Elfie@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-21T14:45:03.424827Z
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@eris Its a lie eris, people die all the time and nobody never points out each and every disease unless its cancer or drug abuse I've seen records being marked as covid when the person had a massive heart attack. When we become conscious of mortality the fear for the self also expands to those we hold dear or are useful to us, we begin to look for dangerous people and actions, they are taking advantage of that instinct to make people think covid is extremely dangerous it's all a psyop @icedquinn @coyote @swordsie
(DIR) Post #AAYLi7OakDzdhEerdw by Otso@sleepy.cafe
2021-08-21T14:47:14.476208Z
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@dubh @eris @coyote @swordsie @1iceloops123
(DIR) Post #AAYMkZ72lSJGBzBH4i by Elfie@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-21T14:58:53.029745Z
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@neo:natsee: @eris :natsee: @thendrix @coyote @swordsie
(DIR) Post #AAYNeVnqFzAY8zsQGO by Elfie@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-21T15:08:59.369633Z
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@coyoteThere were Jewish nazis though and rainbow people too and foreigners The :natsee: were a bizarrely diverse organisation once you look at the more colorful aspects of it @eris @neo @swordsie @thendrix
(DIR) Post #AAYNp63oJ5j5UUOREG by kireicake@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-21T15:10:54.883081Z
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@neoWhat if you've seen and touched wet pussy, but it's just been a while? Which identity is that? Tell me who I am so I know how to be.@eris @thendrix @coyote @swordsie
(DIR) Post #AAYOBmvzaEUGpgYYsq by kireicake@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-21T15:15:00.046238Z
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@meowski👆 This post should be the end of the conversation because that's the whole truth of it.It's also why I haven't been vaccinated. I've never had a moderate to severe case of polio because the vaccine is actually real.@icedquinn @eris @coyote @swordsie @hakui
(DIR) Post #AAYOV5QV3RX5ge1oTw by kireicake@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-21T15:18:29.941680Z
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@meowskiRead Seneca's letters. You'll realize how little has changed socially in 2000 years. @icedquinn @eris @coyote @swordsie @hakui
(DIR) Post #AAYPrcZab3uioXaZma by inorez@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-21T14:52:50.183036Z
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@Elfie I realized it was all a psyop when one of my uncles-in-law got marked down as a covid fatality last year. He was in his 70s, head the 'beetus, previously had 2 strokes, underwent heart bypass surgery a few years ago, was overweight, hypertensive, and basically was on death's door at the beginning of 2020 anyways. That's something like 4-5 comorbidities.He died of a heart attack, but tested positive for covid on a PCR test and so was marked down as a covid fatality. His wife (my aunt) and his son (one of my favorite cousins) still refuse to get injected with the mRNA shots.
(DIR) Post #AAYPrd4mj4rqNIBUPI by Elfie@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-21T15:33:46.143603Z
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@inorezI hope they can hold on long enough :02_heart:Yeah it's very clear when you start to look at elderly people, many are ill and one day simply don't wake up or suffer accidents but they get tagged as covid anyways, even those who spend time in the hospital for unrelated issues get tagged as covid :jahy_scared:
(DIR) Post #AAYQ4TydrqW7v2RKz2 by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-21T15:36:06.504578Z
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@hakui @swordsie @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski I live seeing you get a bit vicious.
(DIR) Post #AAYsfNe1AkYni4AxYe by neo@mk.comfysnug.space
2021-08-21T20:56:29.542Z
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@kireicake@neckbeard.xyz @eris@disqordia.space @thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com @coyote@enitor.xyz @swordsie@mstdn.social "The good ol days"
(DIR) Post #AAYtFTvRIUHBcBXTQO by neo@mk.comfysnug.space
2021-08-21T21:03:01.632Z
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@Elfie@neckbeard.xyz @eris@disqordia.space @thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com @coyote@enitor.xyz @swordsie@mstdn.social thanks, i couldn't remote import it until the instance saw it in use.
(DIR) Post #AAZ3kki7wH7gByrVBY by CumskinFoidPuncher69420@beefyboys.club
2021-08-21T14:53:31.632567Z
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@swordsie @eris > ur nazi> kink> hail satan> furry chimo> calling anyone "autistism"maybe I'm ok with having enemies as consistently ridiculous as thiswhat are your thoughts on anime?
(DIR) Post #AAZN9Rygcfm8Sh67zU by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2021-08-22T02:38:05.942130Z
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@Neo_Dolus @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsiempv-shot0131.jpg
(DIR) Post #AAZOPqaJ0FatMk4nMe by Neo_Dolus@shitposter.club
2021-08-22T02:52:16.236214Z
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@hakui @coyote @eris @icedquinn @meowski @swordsie And sometimes more than a bit...