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(DIR) Post #AAQ4DvWsgnPiuiu9Ds by lucretiamott@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T13:57:40.059858Z
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Oh, apparently it's "racist" to say men who r*pe 12 year old girls are scum if I'm white and they're brown. I guess I'll just keep my white mouth shut from now on, now that I know those men are beyond criticism. It's their "culture" and as a white lady I just "don't get it" apparently. Mm hmm. Heard that before, but never from other feminists.
(DIR) Post #AAQ4DwC0DuJ6yG8zJo by GCat@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T14:53:24.432779Z
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@lucretiamott This should go without saying but there is no place for the cultural relativism argument when talking about child rape. Not only is it misogynistic, it is incredibly racist to assume only white men can control themselves.
(DIR) Post #AAQB5dzAjQtfrj8Qj2 by kathleenbee@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T16:10:32.433306Z
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@lucretiamott what are you talking about? Who has said this to you?
(DIR) Post #AAQB6gfEG8ZAShIvAG by Dingo123@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T16:09:15.252034Z
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@lucretiamott If a man rapes a little girl he is a scum. Period. You know what's racist, claiming it's okay for a man to rape little girls if he is brown.
(DIR) Post #AAQBTGkykR1MlwlHUm by polarisera@gleasonator.com
2021-08-17T16:14:48.241536Z
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@kathleenbee @lucretiamott Oh, Kathleen. You were in a similar spat and blocked by her long ago.
(DIR) Post #AAQBYfH717BKGKMex6 by kathleenbee@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T16:15:46.960337Z
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@polarisera @lucretiamott lol lol lol the funny thing is this did not occur to me though it ought to have been my first thought!
(DIR) Post #AAQDVD1FoZPtfUQWsy by polarisera@gleasonator.com
2021-08-17T16:37:34.000943Z
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@kathleenbee @lucretiamott It was May 17th in fact, I had screen-grabbed it for amusement, because said person seemed to have no idea, she was screaming at an accomplished anthropologist.
(DIR) Post #AAQDlj5aLbK9lSKRns by lucretiamott@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T16:38:56.683749Z
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@polarisera @kathleenbee I am so confused
(DIR) Post #AAQDljivzIndjUjs8W by polarisera@gleasonator.com
2021-08-17T16:40:33.255707Z
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@lucretiamott @kathleenbee We're you not speaking about a particular spat on spinster of recent vintage, or just in general?
(DIR) Post #AAQEUkkX1LRNwfx3c8 by lucretiamott@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T16:47:53.051200Z
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@polarisera @kathleenbee No it happened on ovarit
(DIR) Post #AAQEUlDxFwybPviYTY by lucretiamott@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T16:48:31.192989Z
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@polarisera @kathleenbee Actually tbh this "shut up white lady" shit is happening all over the place everywhere and I'm soooo sick of it.
(DIR) Post #AAQFHvfJDzvRzPxRHU by virginiawolf@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T16:53:13.177529Z
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@lucretiamott @kathleenbee @polarisera it is their new weapon, it is divide and conquer. I got called white, racist, bigot and white boot licker even AFTER I disclosed that I am not white. Guess all for what? For saying let's only let women and girls in since they face the gravest danger
(DIR) Post #AAQFLIS4xeWjWuNKAy by lucretiamott@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T16:56:45.553814Z
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@virginiawolf @kathleenbee @polarisera I mean I think I need to literally get my fucking eyeballs checked when I see "feminists" NAMALT-ing the literal TALIBAN for cryin out loudHas everyone lost their mind or what?Now it's racist to say a culture that promotes child rape is bad????
(DIR) Post #AAQFagv8GmcJlHIzuS by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T17:00:58.375449Z
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@lucretiamott @virginiawolf @kathleenbee @polarisera I've blocked a few spinster users because they were advocating "white women were responsible for slavery", pointed out the dates on which white women achieved the vote in Europe and the US precluded them from having any responsibility for slavery but no, apparently us white women had this insidious "responsibility"...
(DIR) Post #AAQFwRnfATC7ElBa3U by lucretiamott@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T17:04:12.591982Z
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@Clariana @kathleenbee @polarisera @virginiawolf that's bonkers
(DIR) Post #AAQFwSHRNl0uj77MTA by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T17:04:54.201109Z
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@lucretiamott @kathleenbee @polarisera @virginiawolf Completely.
(DIR) Post #AAQGaNnbSkLIPaCUiW by virginiawolf@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T17:07:31.718086Z
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@lucretiamott @kathleenbee @polarisera I think it partially makes them feel good. The whole white people hating their own whiteness is a form of superiority. They want to cling to the fantasy that there is a group of women more powerful than these nonwhite men. I think it is a form of self soothing to feel pity for "poor Afghan men persecuted by Taliban". They don't know these men will rape them if they get a slight chance. These men will vote conservative and antiabortion if they get a citizenship. It is a desperate desire not to admit our collective sex based oppression. Very few white women are truly liberated and privileged
(DIR) Post #AAQITlCiFFIGskunei by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T17:29:39.188738Z
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@lucretiamott My impression was that the implication was that all men, regardless of their background, are equally bad and just as likely to cause trouble for women. And that the only reason anyone would suggest otherwise is if they’re racist.Of course that completely glosses over the “culture that promotes child rape” part. And many other parts besides. @virginiawolf @kathleenbee @polarisera
(DIR) Post #AAQITllo8lMmdbKpMG by lucretiamott@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T17:32:09.858108Z
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@Gnomeshatecheese @kathleenbee @polarisera @virginiawolf I mean, it's true that all men do have that defective Y chromosome and that testosterone-bathed brain, but that isn't what this is about I don't think. We are talking about a culture that specifically promotes child rape, where women can't see a doctor, have to wear a bag over their body, girls can't go to school, etc etc etc. Are we not supposed to single them out specifically and just stick to "all men are bad". No
(DIR) Post #AAQM4t9VxIek6voaJM by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T18:09:05.573625Z
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@Clariana @lucretiamott @kathleenbee @polarisera @virginiawolf Never let actual facts get in the way of a good grudge narrative, eh?Progressive politics been swapping out effective political analysis and incremental change for impotent tribal thuggery and someone to scapegoat for a good long while now.What comes of leaving people in ivory tower academe to set the terms, IMHO. No relationship with human reality, everything dealt with in intellectual abstractions. Still remember a supervisor I had at Uni for Social and Political Science. Dedicated Leninist. Utter prick. Wouldn't have known the Proletariat if it had come up and bitten him in the ass (which, of course, it pretty much had done with the rise of Thatcherism 😂 ).
(DIR) Post #AAQMAR6v7wyosVFN1k by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T18:12:18.325869Z
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@virginiawolf @lucretiamott @kathleenbee @polarisera somebody here said it’s okay to say you hate women as long as you put “white” in front of it.not to derail things but a well-known spinster did that to me over a disagreement about whether men can wear dresses. I accept that people will disagree on the level of racial prejudice in society, but I hope radfems don’t fall for CRT and start treating women as castes.
(DIR) Post #AAQMuVWB4aAVrt1ruK by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T18:22:00.271833Z
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@virginiawolf @lucretiamott @kathleenbee @polarisera there was a woman, Swedish I think, who refused to report a man for raping her because he was a Muslim immigrant and she didn’t want to “contribute to Islamophobia” by making his actions known. There was another rapist who didn’t get deported because some college brat on the plane screamed that he would be killed in his own country and Sweden (I think it was) would be responsible.Remember the women from Denmark who went hiking in Morocco to prove it was a wonderful accepting place, and got their necks sawed through?Wokes don’t give a shit about women. They make a show about the wage gap and ignore female victims of violence if the perpetrators are somewhere up on the oppression hierarchy.Although, there was a Muslim immigrant (Sweden again) who got away with raping a little boy because the judge accepted the lawyer’s argument that the immigrant had a “sexual emergency.”
(DIR) Post #AAQMwtMNOsGeOLa8B6 by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T18:23:24.853665Z
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@lucretiamott @kathleenbee @polarisera @virginiawolf It's an "Elders of Zion" level slander against white women. First encountered it on Reddit on comments on the series "Lovecraft Country" I couldn't believe people could fall for such vile cant. And then there were some feminists repeating it her.
(DIR) Post #AAQN4CITOJJH9QEuUC by polarisera@gleasonator.com
2021-08-17T18:24:43.800633Z
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@AbolishPregnancy @virginiawolf @kathleenbee @lucretiamott Same thing is happen with women and vaccine side-effects. They don't want to be a naughty anti-vaxxer and shunned by their peers. Truth as defined in opposition to those you hate isn't really truth. It leads to cultish spirals, double-binds and total divorce from reality.
(DIR) Post #AAQNHEKX8v3dDnPxsO by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T18:27:05.988209Z
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@lucretiamott @kathleenbee @polarisera @virginiawolf "here"...
(DIR) Post #AAQSerzsKPnAg2qYc4 by senryu@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T18:42:06.248671Z
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@AbolishPregnancy @virginiawolf @kathleenbee @lucretiamott @polarisera There's this image of white women as being the suburbanite, with a house and two car garage. The reality for most white women is poverty and single motherhood.
(DIR) Post #AAQSesXuHt0wNaljeq by kathleenbee@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T19:27:22.541400Z
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@senryu @AbolishPregnancy @lucretiamott @polarisera @virginiawolf is this statistically the case? Interesting if so.
(DIR) Post #AAQUkpEJjFflk0ZMDQ by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T19:50:52.898715Z
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@senryu @AbolishPregnancy @kathleenbee @lucretiamott @polarisera @virginiawolf "Karen"
(DIR) Post #AAQcfldwR5tenoec0e by senryu@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T20:00:41.376079Z
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@kathleenbee @AbolishPregnancy @lucretiamott @polarisera @virginiawolf In absolute numbers, yes. Relatively speaking, race accounts for additional burden: https://nwlc.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/PovertySnapshot2020.pdf
(DIR) Post #AAQcfmBcPspqUGPVVA by kathleenbee@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T21:19:36.197892Z
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@senryu @AbolishPregnancy @lucretiamott @polarisera @virginiawolf wow. thanks for this.
(DIR) Post #AAQcoZj86sTES1HSts by kathleenbee@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T21:21:11.848038Z
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@senryu @AbolishPregnancy @lucretiamott @polarisera @virginiawolf I think you mean that most poor women are white, not most white women are poor, though.
(DIR) Post #AAR20SUVKuceL2Cdwu by senryu@spinster.xyz
2021-08-17T22:50:31.030095Z
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@kathleenbee @AbolishPregnancy @lucretiamott @polarisera @virginiawolf Most white women are struggling. 82% of single parent households are headed by women. Salaries still lag and older women are finding they didn't earn enough to survive old age.
(DIR) Post #AARbxMV0koIPEhGLb6 by skullhoney@spinster.xyz
2021-08-18T07:56:12.640145Z
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@Quellist1 @Clariana @kathleenbee @lucretiamott @polarisera @virginiawolf Side note, but this Phyllis Chesler article posted here recently mentions “there are now even two so-called feminist books that argue for the decriminalization of domestic violence because this charge has led to the imprisonment of too many Black men in America.” https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/progressive-erasure-of-feminismI found this criticism of the two books in question. https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1247&context=dignityIt’s carceral feminists fault batterers go to jail, I guess. According to my friend getting a woke Criminal Justice degree, who somehow never heard that BLM directive to never call the cops, ever, it’s not drugs and the destruction they cause that leads to mass incarceration, it’s that drugs are illegal and the CJS is fundamentally, irredeemably racist. I read New Jim Crow when I worked in an at-risk youth outreach org and I’m aware of the racist origins of US police but I feel like leaning on CRT isn’t doing racial justice any favors at this point, like queer theory isn’t helping LGB progress.
(DIR) Post #AARbzsQT1RLypmKvAm by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-08-18T08:46:45.138065Z
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@skullhoney @Quellist1 @kathleenbee @lucretiamott @polarisera @virginiawolf Great article. Offered me a different view of 2nd wave feminism.
(DIR) Post #AARjhSvRtNscAQYlMW by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-08-18T09:25:04.584512Z
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@Clariana @skullhoney @kathleenbee @lucretiamott @polarisera @virginiawolf same as it ever was - women’s rights, sure; just not right now coz these other guys come first……
(DIR) Post #AARxFJ2wQaxKmGWzAW by polarisera@gleasonator.com
2021-08-18T12:44:50.327309Z
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@Quellist1 @Clariana @kathleenbee @lucretiamott @skullhoney @virginiawolf As all code's of men's honor state in some form: The needs of men shall come before the needs of women.
(DIR) Post #AARxSFViswVrZmAINM by polarisera@gleasonator.com
2021-08-18T12:47:10.767232Z
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@Quellist1 @Clariana @kathleenbee @lucretiamott @skullhoney @virginiawolf Historically all codes of men's honor state in some form (though usually disguised): The needs of men shall come before the needs of women.
(DIR) Post #AAX9O9YJcfObzBxZWy by CumskinFoidPuncher69420@beefyboys.club
2021-08-21T00:46:37.494070Z
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@lucretiamott >as a white ladylol euwwwwwwwww