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 (DIR) Post #9iqpDC4Ui4v0omDiYy by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:19:08Z
       
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       (1) On May 8th, 1979, I walked out of the Naval Air Base at Ezeiza, near Buenos Aires, after spending several months there as a prisoner.I had been assigned to the security detail in that Base in early 1978, after completing basic training in the Marine Corps, and a brief stint at the 3rd Marine Battallion, Co. I, in the city of La Plata.I was a platoon leader and a sniper.Soon after arriving at BAE, I was transferred from the security detail to the counterintelligence unit.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDCGtxwqLRG1cu0 by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:22:13Z
       
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       (2) It appears someone in the family had tried to make it easier for me, but it backfired miserably.There was a small fleet of rather ancient aircraft at the base.Three DC-3s (C-47) and 2 DC4s among them, and a couple of newer Focker 28.The DC-3s were constantly in use.While at the security detail I had to do guard duty and had seen the activity increase at night.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDCW93H2KCX9nf6 by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:24:45Z
       
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       (3) One day, already reassigned to the intelligence unit, I found out the details as I was posted to one of the flights.It was in mid-1978, as the Soccer World Cup was being played just a few miles away.The flight plan was Ezeiza-Punta Indio-Ezeiza.Punta Indio was a chickenshit town on a point at the mouth of the River Plate, without much in it, and I had no idea what we were going to do there.Maybe the whole thing was a training exercise.It was not.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDCdabazWZcdkGW by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:28:42Z
       
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       (4) As we were all ready on the little plane, engines running, blocks off, a couple of trucks pulled up to the tail.From these trucks issued a dozen men and women, chained together.I had seen some awful shit in my life, but the ghostly appearance of these emaciated, bloodied zombies was a new step into the realization of evil.And a harbinger of things to come.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDCnA20eD3J7OBU by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:31:44Z
       
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       (5) They were led into the plane and sat, backs against the fuselage, on the sides.I was carrying a FAL and was made to "cover" the loading operation and then take my place by the aft door.The DC-3 never landed in Punta Indio.About 20 minutes into the flight, my CO opened the aft door, and instructed me to assist him in throwing our passengers into the river, about 30 miles from shore, where the brown river empties into the South Atlantic. Very easy to recognize...
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDCy9N9RDbOGAJU by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:36:09Z
       
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       (6) I refused.In my education in a family with a number of high ranking naval officers, the concept of due obedience did not extend to illegal orders, much less committing murder.In the scuffle that ensued, I shot my CO, hitting him in the arm, and was instantly under a pile of rabid non-commissioned officers that beat me nearly unconscious.The cargo was disposed of, and I was brought back to Ezeiza and then transported to the ESMA.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDD8Qkvf47H4NKy by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:38:24Z
       
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       (7)  I lost track of time after what seems to me a couple of weeks there.And I am still not ready to write about those weeks.But I did discover that electrocution does not immediately hurt.As electricity flows through the body, there is a strange sensation. A tingling of sorts.I was aware of what was going on but could do nothing about it.I wanted to pull the cables, but the muscles did not respond.There was a smell of burnt flesh, but no pain...
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDDIi8hsud9saMS by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:44:27Z
       
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       (8)  I could hear myself screaming, but I was not screaming.A constant, high pitched AAAAHHHHH that I was aware was coming from my throat but over which I had no control.And the room was distorting, as if I was looking at it through a moving zoom lens turning into a fish eye view, and then nothing.It seemed like an eternity, even though I know It could not have been a long time before I lost consciousness.I woke up in a damp room, in fetal position, but I could not stretch.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDDThTqfvBF1MUS by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:45:40Z
       
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       (9) Now, everything hurt.Every muscle, every part of my body, but especially the joints.The elbows and shoulders in particular, everytime I tried to move.So I did not.This pain increased after every session, until it no longer made a difference.And at that moment I did not give a shit anymore.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDDbV0quhZQfae8 by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:49:35Z
       
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       (10) Weeks later, unable to walk, I was carried to a truck and taken back to Ezeiza, but first I was shown a mass grave in an area were they were building a sports complex by the river.The message was clear and needed no explanation.Many were later found, but I wonder if this one is still there under the soccer field.Back then, it was not bones.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDDkMTu0E0uofSa by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:53:55Z
       
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       (11) Before I made it to Ezeiza, though, they took me back to the BIM 3 in La Plata, to a hole under the "Plaza de Armas" where there were small holding cells. The stench was slightly better than ESMA, and there were no constant screams to keep you awake.Today I understand the buildings are part of the University of La Plata, back then it was a concentration camp with a Marines base on top.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDDqk6B6gKhnlPE by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:58:04Z
       
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       (12) Back in Ezeiza, I was held in lock up.A room barely large enough to lay in a fetal position or crouching.I could never stretch or stand.They came to check on me every two hours, day and night, often beating me, though it had become routine.Even when I fell asleep, it would not last more than an hour.The worse was a 1st Sargent, originally from Syria. A sadistic SOB who liked to play mind games.On day, as he came for his routine visit, he did not pull me out of the cell as usual.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDDyBeV3shnHi0e by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:59:41Z
       
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       (13)  "You are being set free tomorrow." He said.I did not believe him."How does it feel to know your are going to be free?" he asked."I am free," I answered.He looked puzzled and pointed to the fact that I was in a tiny cell with no windows."Do you call this freedom?""One day," I said, "I will be out of here. They'll throw me in the soccer field or I'll walk out, but I'll be out."
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDE5dCp154slec4 by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:01:51Z
       
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       (14) "If I do walk out, I'll go home, but first I'll stop in Brazil, drink a batida under a palm tree and not even remember you exist. And you'll still be in this hellhole. Maybe I'll send you a postcard."The following day, 40 years ago, they brought me clothes and walked me to the front gate.I had to walk three miles to the town of Ezeiza, thinking at every step, that they'd pull me back in. That fear kept me going though I could hardly wak at all.It took forever.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDECMnmP7Plv26y by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:04:15Z
       
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       (15) Somebody in town noticed me and with kindness I had forgotten existed ushered me into her house and closed the door behind me.I was able to call a friend and he came to pick me up.When I got home I realized the origin of the compassionate look I got from that kind woman.The skull in the mirror was not me.I weighted just under 50 kg, and there was a layer of dry dirt, piss and shit around me that looked and felt as if I was scabbed.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDEJoM6MJmrOyiO by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:07:59Z
       
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       (16) I must have soaked for hours to get the grime off, but it took me weeks to tolerate real food. (and lots of sugar, boy how I loved sugar)A few months later, I was in Brazil.And on May 10th, 1980, I arrived back home, on a Branniff Airways flight from Manaus to NYC which arrived at the United Building, Terminal B.I did not know at the time that I would spend a good part of my life in that very terminal, where Arrow Air set its hub in 1983.But that is another story.FINIS
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqpDETNmW10GXscdM by Dawnz@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T06:57:32Z
       
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       @Debradelai Your story has left me speechless Saul. You are an amazing human being.You endured more than anyone ive ever heard of enduring or HAD to  endure.yet your incredible mind and spirit saw you through it. Ive always seen an inner strength in you thru your thoughts and words,now I understand where that strength comes from-your spirit and your convictions.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqqQFxfesmmbKoz44 by AmericanFarmer@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:13:25Z
       
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       @Debradelai The decision you made on the airplane that day is not only a credit to you and the values you believe in, but an inspiration to all of us.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqqeygCC6IPLWfQ5A by AmericanFarmer@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:06:58Z
       
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       @Debradelai The horror you went through is unimaginable. For what it's worth, I'm glad you lived.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqqiNhZcPlpotw01Z by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:09:16Z
       
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       @AmericanFarmer There's at least two of us!
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqqiO8ryvbZBYhnZQ by MEMA@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T04:21:32Z
       
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       @Debradelai @AmericanFarmer There are many of us Saul.. many, many of us..
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqqp5HkUOIEjH3FWi by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:34:55Z
       
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       @redwhitebluedude @AmericanFarmer My cousin, a Navy Commander there (he was one CO of the submarine base in Mar del Plata) had the same reaction I dod.Lost his career and ended up an exile in Greece.Many, many more did the right thing, damn the torpedoes.That is why I have no respect for those who did not.Those who knew and did nothing or became complicit are just a waste of oxygen and deserve no sympathy.The good men who do nothing are evil, too.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqqtUj9q1QgnKyUeO by MEMA@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T04:42:18Z
       
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       @Debradelai BTW... great pic...my husband occasionally struck that same pose... care to share what it means...I'm curious as a cat to know...😏
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqqtUu9BADhLQ7GmO by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T04:44:10Z
       
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       @MEMA It means "up yours"Sorry!
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqqtV4QYwRXrIvTns by MEMA@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T04:47:45Z
       
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       @Debradelai That's what I thought... international body language... 😂
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqqtVGTq85ISgZ6ae by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T04:49:11Z
       
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       @MEMA It's an Italian thing.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqrFUkkQJANFGD1V2 by rarity@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:52:56Z
       
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       @Debradelai I recall being unable to express myself to you after reading this the first time...but wanting/needing to utter something.That hasn’t changed. Still can’t find the words.May G-d bless you every moment! Thank you for inspiring and teaching us. ❤️
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqrXoiYvwPSNRvJoG by trueblueTEX@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:44:38Z
       
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       @Debradelai I cannot imagine being put into this position.  You were brutalized.  I have a stone-like anger just reading what your CO did.
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqrXor4QJDOnpu74S by Dawnz@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T17:30:51Z
       
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       @trueblueTEX @Debradelai Same here..It made me angry as well, through the tears
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqsus3SnBFjLFFxxo by ilumanous@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T07:49:19Z
       
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       @Debradelai @MEMA Ha! I learned all the rude Italian gestures and bad words when I was little.The adults thought because we didn't understand what they were saying that we wouldn't learn them anyway.One of the things I remember the most was my mother biting her hand, which pretty much means... "If I catch you, I will kill you."Also, my nick name when I was young was "Fachia Brute".  My grandmother told me it meant "funny face", but I found out when I was older what it really meant. 😳
       
 (DIR) Post #9iqtcgAoKQvhEXaBUW by ilumanous@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T07:53:51Z
       
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       @Debradelai What a story Saul. Have you ever thought of a documentary? I know that you said you didn't want to tell everything and that is understandable, but what you did tell us is something that people need to hear.There are some things that we have to make sure, doesn't happen again.That is one...
       
 (DIR) Post #9ir1aAdPPvPgTKH2rA by Jaime@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T15:12:38Z
       
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       @Debradelai Speechless.😢
       
 (DIR) Post #9ir2A3cywi7zAKBcbA by swirlygal@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T15:21:28Z
       
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       @Jaime @Debradelai I cannot imagine, survival of the fittest. When called, may we all be so fit.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ir73A553QTuvJrPNY by EngOnDemand@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:27:30Z
       
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       @Debradelai This is bringing back many memories of when I was there in the late 80's and early 90's.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ir7WzUsy8lamn9co4 by EngOnDemand@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:33:05Z
       
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       @Debradelai My God Saul.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ir7fgNlPIKm6my32O by EngOnDemand@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:39:20Z
       
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       @Debradelai Some call this "Dying Grace"
       
 (DIR) Post #9ir8f3PmO3oLCuAswi by Baline@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:37:05Z
       
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       @Debradelai Wtf?! was going on??
       
 (DIR) Post #9ir8fpD0gq7LRCZMhs by Pissyfit@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:35:45Z
       
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       @Debradelai Omg Saul. I am crying reading this 😢
       
 (DIR) Post #9ir9IVkwwq7EOstKXA by GodlessNZ@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:57:14Z
       
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       @Debradelai I would rather the site was turned into a memorial, perhaps a garden, with information available to educate new generations. But it is no surprise to me that such things are not done in Latin America. The will to change is not there. I'm thankful that survivors tell the tale. Education is so important.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ir9s1tbRhQYDNsKjg by EngOnDemand@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T02:50:33Z
       
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       @Debradelai The Tigre?
       
 (DIR) Post #9irBFXBHOWKPrHunke by Meeka@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:12:05Z
       
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       @Debradelai The tears began rolling between #5 & #6....   Thankful you're alive, sir.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irBQpZxKbzk6WqOOm by Lemonhead@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:23:35Z
       
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       @Debradelai Honorable man. Glad you lived and are now educating us on so many subjects. Thank you
       
 (DIR) Post #9irBRwc8ezjuDHObse by GodlessNZ@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:13:20Z
       
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       @Debradelai I wonder if the woman who took you in that day had quietly done the same for others before, given how close she was to the site. I first read your harrowing story two years ago. It reminds me of stories you can read at the many Holocaust remembrance websites. Can you recommend one about what was done in Argentina? Educating as many people as we can is so important.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irBUSV74qoPgfJCaW by cmclark63@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:13:44Z
       
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       @Debradelai What an extraordinary and inspiring story! I admire your courage in refusing to participate in genocide, when you must have feared being the next victim. Thank you so much for sharing it.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irBVblY7D98iCXpZ2 by KimberMori@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:11:27Z
       
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       @Debradelai my heart hurts for the memories you carry.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irCNtXQFrrfT7p4rY by ConnieB@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:24:42Z
       
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       @Debradelai Michael Corleone.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irCNvIxgbUAwr4YbI by willc@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:26:10Z
       
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       @Debradelai Saul, had I known what you have suffered, I would have never goofed around with you on tweeter. Please forgive me.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irCVZ3mHAyyH1c7k0 by cshores8@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:22:24Z
       
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       @Debradelai I can’t hardly believe what I just read.Unbelievable.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irCh1PdCcKhOPIbNQ by bwa_aptos@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:26:17Z
       
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       @DebradelaiUK TV show Top Gear did a special down there; they ended with a bit of a political scuffle.  What amazing mountains before that though.  I hadn't known much of their politics before that and barely know now.  I hadn't known of the beauty of those mountains before that either.  My coworkers seem to know of those mountains and I guess they might go visit on occasion.  Not many (Twitter's) Periscopers from that region.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irCh1bKV7gryglwbw by bwa_aptos@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:27:50Z
       
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       @Debradelai Your story reminded me of one story I once heard that some country down in S.A. was doing that to prisoners to adhere to UN dictates about % of the population in prison.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irCh1o5jftmcGk8VE by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:29:49Z
       
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       @bwa_aptos If you find out where you heard that nonsense from, make sure to ignore that source going forward.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irCqzDcDJvTU6QjRo by bwa_aptos@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:32:33Z
       
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       @Debradelai It has an aire of what is often identified as misinformation about it.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irCrNKWZHiGGTqaY4 by bwa_aptos@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:36:22Z
       
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       @Debradelai Thanks for the advice.It has an aire about it of what is often identified as misinformation.  I heard it during times when my life was thick with those I fear were some type of (knowing or not) operatives in persuading our country's people to think how others wanted us to think.  It was long ago and I don't precisely remember who said it.  I wonder what else they said that has jostled around in the ether of our minds.  That's why I prefer looking at things with my own eyes first.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irDDclpqDw8WWEN4T by ilumanous@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T11:39:43Z
       
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       @Debradelai @MEMA Ha! I learned all the rude Italian gestures and bad words when I was little.The adults thought because we didn't understand what they were saying that we wouldn't learn them anyway.One of the things I remember the most was my mother biting her hand, which pretty much means... "If I catch you, I will kill you."Also, my nick name when I was young was "Fachia Brutta".  My grandmother told me it meant "funny face", but I found out when I was older what it really meant. 😳
       
 (DIR) Post #9irDQttPUc0ZOL6Xdg by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:30:53Z
       
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       @willc No harm done.We all goof around on occasion.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irDS5FEltqKtAsVIO by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:37:12Z
       
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       @redwhitebluedude Thank God I went through it, too.That's why I do not partake of the notion of Deity being involved in the daily affairs of Man.That would be to cruel a Deity for my taste.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irDh441RbrrZPmAIC by willc@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:31:21Z
       
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       @Debradelai Thank you.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irDoNhiovmwViplZ2 by Nemhu@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:39:04Z
       
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       @Debradelai You are a brave and strong man to survive such torture and evil and afterwards to be able to live with a sure heart. You are an inspiration and I read every word that you write to learn and spread the word of what is good and evil.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irDvKBiIBHFdGAn0i by MEMA@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:48:36Z
       
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       @Debradelaibecause you are first an honorable man..
       
 (DIR) Post #9irE3NRw37ka44bI4e by Twi_brarian@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:38:32Z
       
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       @Debradelai I am grateful you survived such a horrific ordeal. It’s just unbelievable! You stood up for your convictions and are lucky to have your life. God Bless You Sir, and I hope you are able to celebrate your freedom without any thought to those SOBs.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irET4VZ60BcqdYBOa by WatchfulCat@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:45:04Z
       
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       @Debradelai Thank you for surviving. You're making a difference in the world, you and @ThomasWic
       
 (DIR) Post #9irEjtciokdy0rv7r6 by Barb@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:58:13Z
       
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       @Debradelai You're a amazing man Sir.I can't say anything that has not already been said in comments from your thread!God bless you always and thankyou for sharing your knowledge and life endeavors that made you the man you are today. 🇺🇸 💕
       
 (DIR) Post #9irEvQMpPxlqkcz1qi by dpgagner@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:57:50Z
       
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       @Debradelai “And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.” Revelation 21:4
       
 (DIR) Post #9irFoglm8TOZY70KNk by bwa_aptos@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:55:31Z
       
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       @Debradelai Out of curiosity, I did an Internet web site search and came up with this document.  Since the topic upsets me, I'll not rush to look into it more, since otherwise I may lose perspective of what information has integrity and what doesn't.https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB77/
       
 (DIR) Post #9irGIBOHMmMOut4tBg by Sarah_Roberts@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T04:16:32Z
       
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       @Debradelai I admire your morals as a person to do what was right.  I cannot imagine going through the torture you endured.  I am sorry that you had to go through that ordeal.   I am thankful that you are here to share with the rest of us.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irGM74BNxGWfDYHjs by MEMA@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T03:59:59Z
       
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       @Debradelai That's understandable...some things take time Saul..
       
 (DIR) Post #9irGn3GJdbFugS4YVM by CarolynM@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T04:17:40Z
       
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       @Debradelai I read this once. It’s affect on me this day is as profound as before. I’m grateful that you are here to share it. It puts my own supposed suffering in perspective. Not only that, when I think of how you’ve changed my life, I realize that I have been blessed with a beautiful gift.I like to imagine that I show my patients the same kindness that you were shown by the woman who took you in. Her compassion is an inspiration to a caregiver like me.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irH35Ea4cU9QuuCno by bwa_aptos@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T04:11:35Z
       
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       @DebradelaiMy local socialists who liked to blame USA for all sorts of things sure didn't tell those stories of Reagan doing the right thing there.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irHCSVKvO6mD8DI5A by MEMA@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T04:13:35Z
       
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       @Debradelai You are obviously a strong man..but my soul wants to wrap itself around you and comfort you Saul..
       
 (DIR) Post #9irHlLfkJmeT9mie6i by marleneroseb@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T04:24:41Z
       
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       @Debradelai Oh wow. You are here for a reason. You have been through so much. Thank you for sharing your story.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irI4hY7CjZCVcNUoa by MEMA@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T04:37:21Z
       
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       @Debradelai What a story Saul...thank you for sharing it with us...you brought out the women, mother, and friend in me, and brought us all to tears and then thankfulness... damn we should nickname you nails... but Saul rounds you out better 😉
       
 (DIR) Post #9irIIe3WzO4PjFimjg by DonnaLea@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T12:28:49Z
       
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       @Debradelai Wow, just wow. I have no words other than Thank you for your service to our country & Thank you for sharing this part of your life with us. You never know what a person has been through. I'm in awe.
       
 (DIR) Post #9irKWKS8rxhMtSsyBs by MEMA@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T05:04:57Z
       
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       @Debradelai I guess I shouldn't be surprised... you have great form for Italian body language 👍
       
 (DIR) Post #9irP54Lt7iiOuSmVDU by SQ@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T05:47:58Z
       
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       @Debradelai  A horrific time in your young adult life. I hope you’ve had wonderful people in your life to get through this. A really handsome picture of you. I did notice the jester you made. I dated a Sicilian in 1980 from the Bronx and he taught me this. 😌
       
 (DIR) Post #9irVCHvxcmOWmjTn5U by oystergirl@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-15T06:57:33Z
       
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       @Debradelai Saul, I am crying for you, even though you were strong, but also for my dad who suffered greatly in China and North Vietnam and my dear friend who's dad workedfo the government of Columbia and escaped at night from death squads and got to America. I have more stories but time in short. You are brave and we are grateful you survived to tell us tales. So many have NO clue what goes on in the world and whine when their phone charge is low. We know. We know the truth of how lucky we are.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mgp9EXImCCTosGeMi by Jaygarza1@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T20:04:20Z
       
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       @Debradelai as many who told me Saul is Salty Af , I never gave a crap, Thanks for the ugly truth Saul. many of us are better for it.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mguIax7IlfBigcqX2 by Dubby@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T21:02:03Z
       
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       @Debradelai I scrolled through reams of your media to find that thread yesterday, so I could post it on twatter.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mguaYhMQAylwPozdQ by Dubby@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T21:05:18Z
       
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       @Debradelai still can't find the one you wrote on Robin Grytz though.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mgvURWAIzrlt6ETkO by JustDJ@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T21:05:41Z
       
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       @Jaygarza1 @Debradelai Saul gives tough love...with limits. Those limits keep this place sane.Thank you Saul.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mgvXnUF57uytMvscy by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T21:16:00Z
       
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       @Dubby Because I wrote it in Twatter, not here.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mgvdxhE2JHUIFwdto by Dubby@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T21:17:06Z
       
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       @Debradelai I hope you get around to it.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mgwCdZmpkp61n03nc by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T21:23:23Z
       
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       @Dubby It's up to her.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mgwTZufhrQ9acqZ84 by Wally45@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T21:26:26Z
       
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       @Debradelai. Incredible story. My admiration to you for your defiance with the big F U pick at the end!
       
 (DIR) Post #9mgzarI3nRDbNEwwk4 by Dubby@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T22:01:23Z
       
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       @Debradelai Ok
       
 (DIR) Post #9mh1NqMa8EPAdszDc0 by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T22:21:26Z
       
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       @EngOnDemand No. Immediately inside of Gral. Paz. Front on Libertador Ave., back to the river.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mh7EKQu4tWGjNr0WO by Sandbaja@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T23:26:56Z
       
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       @Debradelai Bless you Saul for doing the right thing, at such severe cost. I hope karma deals justice to the wounded arm officer and jailers.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mh82oxkqJaXtfIRHM by CancerousToeJam@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T23:36:04Z
       
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       @Debradelai  I did some healing to your pic. I hope this is ok with you.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mh8QCrAAlsef7MeJc by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T23:40:18Z
       
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       @CancerousToeJam Thank you!
       
 (DIR) Post #9mh8chzSFC0KhGCiKu by CancerousToeJam@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T23:42:33Z
       
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       @Debradelai  My pleasure sir.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mh9ZnUdQaR6qhxpzM by KenLarkin@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T23:53:14Z
       
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       @CancerousToeJam @Debradelai Very nice job.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mhAB3TQyW2N7vAUpE by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-07T23:59:58Z
       
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       @bwa_aptos It's true.While the us ambassador (Raúl Castro, of al possible names) was in bed with the Junta, many were not. I remember a guy, tall, red hair, his name was Rex, who risked his life to find the truth in more than one occasion and then passed info to DC behind the ambassadors back.Carter spoke of human rights and enabled the Junta.Reagan spoke much less and cut the Junta at the knees.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mhAWUMIDGzead33ho by marciamillsART@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T00:03:50Z
       
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       @Debradelai Horror.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mhF6NxlruB8zox1Fo by Baline@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T00:21:11Z
       
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       @Jaygarza1 @Debradelai   Nothing wrong with salty. Especially when seasoned with razor sharp wit, immense intellect and other languages to boot. Love ya, Prof. Saul!
       
 (DIR) Post #9mhF9pnYplAOC7ot3A by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T00:55:46Z
       
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       @Baline @Jaygarza1 I thought "salty" was rather mild...
       
 (DIR) Post #9mhFG7p8jEA1pxYeem by Baline@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T00:56:54Z
       
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       @Debradelai I do enjoy a good euphemism 😆 @Jaygarza1
       
 (DIR) Post #9mhGDnGRGYOmJM4d6G by Baline@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T01:07:23Z
       
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       @Debradelai @Jaygarza1 One of my favorite George Carlin bits on euphemisms.😂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SivpLzwYSYE
       
 (DIR) Post #9mhI7oiR9jQaz4Ro5w by Jaime@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T01:29:01Z
       
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       @Debradelai 🙏🏻😢
       
 (DIR) Post #9mhL7fcL4cF9afExua by Mongo3804@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T02:02:36Z
       
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       @Debradelai @AmericanFarmer Many more Saul. I already had respect for you without knowing any background. It's rock solid now. Don't know if we honor the same God and it matters not, I'm asking mine to send you blessings. Amen
       
 (DIR) Post #9mhPIG7AdEq7Usxxlg by MeMeMiddleClass@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T02:49:20Z
       
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       @Debradelai Incredible that you made it out alive from that horror. Much respect, sir. I just returned this week from Buenos-Aires. A private tour guide led me through the history of that heinous era. We visited MemoryPark along the river, whose walls honor the names of all the missing, many having been thrown in the river on the flights of death, or taken to torture houses and later burned. Women still gather weekly at the Plaza de Mayo to remember the missing.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_of_the_Plaza_de_Mayo
       
 (DIR) Post #9mha3b99Zge5o0XBei by MarieGreen@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T04:02:42Z
       
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       @MEMA @Debradelai   Have you noticed in Greece that when one hails a taxi the driver stops and nods his head then drives off?  Or .. the driver stops and shakes his head and waits for you to get in. Moral of the story - not all countries follow international gestures. :/
       
 (DIR) Post #9mha3bOkdh7eaNpdy4 by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T04:49:56Z
       
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       @MarieGreen @MEMA @Debradelai It's like when iguanas nod.You think they're giving you permission to pick them up and cuddle, but then the bastards bite your nose.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mhboSvk2YeJt6Amsy by Silver@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T05:09:35Z
       
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       @Debradelai This is the first time I have seen this thread.My God.There are no other words.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mhcF1Yzti4gpVCNay by MarieGreen@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T05:14:25Z
       
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       @ThomasWic @MEMA @Debradelai   LOL. It may be an international gesture for lizards?
       
 (DIR) Post #9mhckjboBiUCPXdNvU by athena12@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T05:20:08Z
       
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       @ThomasWic @MarieGreen @MEMA @Debradelai Iguanas are very cool.  My girlfriend went to the Galapagos several years ago, it looks amazing.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mhddVP8hWCCHfpDf6 by MEMA@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T05:30:03Z
       
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       @ThomasWic @MarieGreen @Debradelai 🤣...oh no, I'm sitting here lmao Thomas.. yet I know that somewhere out there are many unfortunate someone's who have had such a unexpected experience as this...🤣 that poor little bastard, it had to be thinking "holy shit".. the only thing it could see was a mouth full of teeth coming at him..🤣...crazy when we get it wrong, right...thanks Thomas, I love it when you surprise me with unexpected humor that my minds eye dramatizes and causes me to laugh out loud..
       
 (DIR) Post #9miVXVFtjlnJbp5bNo by grits@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T15:34:02Z
       
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       @Debradelai  This shook me to the core yesterday. I pondered for awhile, mentally put it down awhile, picked it up again, did some research.  What evil walks this earth, still, and I don't understand why the world allows it.What a history, and what a life you have led. Movie worthy really. No wonder you suffer no fools. I don't know who or what saved you (released from prison), but we are grateful you are among us. A less courageous man would likely have laid very low for the rest of his life.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mim6wx3nQ2dm3ibiq by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T18:39:43Z
       
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       @ThomasWic @MarieGreen @MEMA @Debradelai Yep. I was trying to get my new adopted cat used to the other one. The adopted one waved his tail like he was being friendly, went over and sniffed the other one -- all was going well when CHOMP! He bit down on my other kitty's neck. So I read that one wrong!
       
 (DIR) Post #9mim9Yz7MPweJLvXQ8 by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T18:40:11Z
       
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       @ThomasWic @MarieGreen @MEMA @Debradelai Yep. I was trying to get my new adopted cat used to my other kitty. The adopted one waved his tail like he was being friendly, went over and sniffed the other one -- all was going well when CHOMP! He bit down on my other kitty's neck. So I read that one wrong!
       
 (DIR) Post #9mipzqoId9kAW6UVhg by Jojoplumber@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T19:23:15Z
       
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       @Debradelai 😱 oh my god Saul. Why were you freed? How long did it take you to feel normal again or did that feeling of “normal” never come back?
       
 (DIR) Post #9miuD7ALX1wmp9Npui by KittyDugre@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T20:10:28Z
       
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       @Debradelai @MEMA Otherwise known as ba-fungul in my neck of the woods.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mjEgHbx3zWJEsONOq by KittyDugre@social.quodverum.com
       2019-09-08T23:59:51Z
       
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       @Debradelai  Oh Saul, what a horrible experience.  The evilness in this world is extraordinary.  You wonder how these people can live with themselves. I believe in Karma and would like to think those responsible got payback, if not in life, then for their eternal misery after death.  Love you and your soul.
       
 (DIR) Post #AALI90RXiQLU4BbrCy by Jaygarza1@social.quodverum.com
       2021-08-15T07:36:00Z
       
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       @Debradelai Conversations with Saul. Sometimes it's better to listen. #QVConversations