Post AAEh2R3xU3ITLWp2vY by Arcalian@social.quodverum.com
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(DIR) Post #AAEWyH5LdgjZhXqjSq by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T01:19:11Z
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@Arcalian @TheCalmObserver I am enjoying this
(DIR) Post #AAEgJK2qjHTuY7nANU by ChrisYork87@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T03:03:49Z
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@timr @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver so does this screw the infrastructure plan?
(DIR) Post #AAEgwb33RfToZtcDGC by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T03:10:55Z
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@ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver It certainly complicates things. They may work it out - so many factors to address, and now the conflict is open.It still intrigues me to see the Democrats openly denouncing each other. After 20 plus years of maintaining a unified front, they are carrying on like relatives who hate each other at a family reunion.Cori Bush's notorious eviction stunt and Biden's breaking the law have energized the squad. They are flying high, without a plane.
(DIR) Post #AAEh2R3xU3ITLWp2vY by Arcalian@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T03:11:58Z
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@timr @ChrisYork87 @TheCalmObserver at first I wanted to say "ready for the crash" but going back to the memes of earlier tonight, I envision Wile E Coyote suddenly realizing there's no ground beneath his feet....
(DIR) Post #AAEhJlLpJ1k3BxRTt2 by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T03:15:07Z
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@Arcalian @ChrisYork87 @TheCalmObserver It really is quite a show. And now the self-described Dem 'moderates' have the boldness that comes from fear.The Dems cannot lose more than three votes. So both sides are carrying on. And Republicans are completely outside of it
(DIR) Post #AAEhSUMvoZ4v837VDc by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T03:16:41Z
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@ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver That is what Pelosi demands - or rather, what the squad demands and Pelosi communicates.Whether that will happen - we do know that internal Dem conflict awaits.
(DIR) Post #AAEhol26XRz7BMzrzE by ChrisYork87@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T03:20:42Z
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@timr @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver still don’t understand how 19 republicans voted for a crappy bill although wasn’t 3.5 trillion…. Was it to avoid media attack and play along to avoid scrutiny? Pretty weak if you ask me
(DIR) Post #AAEiVyMcqlDMyoCaPY by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T03:28:31Z
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@ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver If the GOP had not voted for Bill #1, Infrastructure, the Dems would have stuffed most of it in the Reconciliation Bill anyway - and it is almost all budget related, so it would likely be acceptable. But the GOP would have no say at all.1/2
(DIR) Post #AAEiXdDISRx9xhd5fc by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T03:28:49Z
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@ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver With no Infrastructure Bill, there would be tremendous pressure for the Dems to do something - even for Manchin and Sinema.Now they can say - we voted on the Infrastructure Bill. And they are on record opposing Bill #2 - Reconciliation - in its current form.Much less pressure.2/3
(DIR) Post #AAEiZlN762EnqNEnIW by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T03:29:12Z
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@ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver 6I can do without the sanctimonious GOP posturing - but it doesn't matterYes, it would be better to have no Bill at all. But the GOP is playing a difficult hand. So far, they are doing quite well, considering.And every other Bill is either DOA or dying.3/3
(DIR) Post #AAFWlIv3hf6kmboP1U by Jaime@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T12:51:32Z
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@timrThey are flying high, without a plane.I like that! @ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver
(DIR) Post #AAGBXZkKRNPl2NMiZM by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T20:28:28Z
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@pma05 Any response to the Bills would divide Republicans. That can't be helped.If Bill #1 had failed, the Dems would have put most of it in the Reconciliation Bill - and made that Bill more likely to pass in some form.At this point the Dems are tearing each other part about these Bills - and are continuing today.It all looks very different than it dud even two weeks ago. And not because of the GOP@ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver
(DIR) Post #AAGBdeWtZLfxbsyoTI by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T20:29:34Z
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@pma05 Any response to the Bills would divide Republicans. That can't be helped.If Bill #1 had failed, the Dems would have put most of it in the Reconciliation Bill - and made that Bill more likely to pass in some formAt this point the Dems are tearing each other part about these Bills -and are continuing todayIt all looks very different than it did even two weeks ago. And not because of the GOPThis is a real Dem fight with both sides digging in@ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver
(DIR) Post #AAGBz8C2TYRZgvSxtI by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T20:33:27Z
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@pma05Yes - the Dems do hold the cards.The filibuster is intact and HR1/S1 is dead. Those are triumphs. We will only know from a historical perspective how important these victories are. @ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver
(DIR) Post #AAGC0hf85ULhzEp4CW by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T20:33:43Z
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@pma05Yes - the Dems do hold the cards.However - The filibuster is intact and HR1/S1 is dead. Those are triumphs. We will only know from a historical perspective how important these victories are. @ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver
(DIR) Post #AAGCHPKjUHbg3zFPF2 by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T20:36:44Z
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@LakePacificLoverI don't see how it can be allowed in a Reconciliation Bill - it has nothing to do with the budget or finance.The Dems themselves seemed very uncertain and skeptical. So I don't know.They are stuffing everything into their trash bag and hoping something survives the votes and the Senate Parliamentarian These Bills are the last hope for the Dems. Their usual panic@pma05 @ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver
(DIR) Post #AAGD1nFAvC1vXalZrs by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T20:45:07Z
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@LakePacificLoverInfrastructure can be done at any time. The last one was in 2015 - the current Bill follows on the expiration of much of that one.Usually there is one Reconciliation Bill each year. This year, the January Stimulus Bill used Reconciliation because there was no Bill last year. The Senate Parliamentarian allowed two this year. This current one is for the 2022 budget. @pma05 @ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver
(DIR) Post #AAGDS4CKVcg3eUxo5w by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T20:49:53Z
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@LakePacificLover An office with the Parliamentarian in charge. Elizabeth Macdonough was appointed by Harry Reid. When the position opens up, the current Senate Majority Leader nominates the next one@pma05 @ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver
(DIR) Post #AAGDnP4c5bbmTgWpFI by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T20:53:44Z
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@LakePacificLover Yes, although there have been a few who have been replaced when the Senate switches parties. The Senate Majority Leader has the power there@pma05 @ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver
(DIR) Post #AAGEP6L4C0NFNTCSqe by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T21:00:33Z
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@LakePacificLover Yes@pma05 @ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver
(DIR) Post #AAGEadJLwUqMpCtgwa by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T21:02:38Z
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@pma05 She is quite an impressive professional@LakePacificLover @ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver
(DIR) Post #AAGEmbSYeV5eYcuWJ6 by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T21:04:48Z
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@pma05She does @LakePacificLover @ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver
(DIR) Post #AAGJ40CuIIqO3B8rwG by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T21:52:46Z
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@timr @pma05 @ChrisYork87 @Arcalian @TheCalmObserver Yaay!! That's a big deal with freelancers here in CA, for sure. Because they were trying to stuff the PRO Act in one of the bills.