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(DIR) Post #AACfBqnQaYLbXSX3RI by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T03:41:50Z
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So, it seems the new conspiracy going around is that the vaccine actually causes the virus to mutate and be worse... Or at least mutate, I could be wrong on the latter.I'm not in the medical field, but this sounds like BS to me.@watch4thedrop? Or anyone else care to shed light on this?
(DIR) Post #AACfMF7D1ep9rIjwgK by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T03:43:44Z
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@umad80 Doesn’t sound out of the realm of possibility though. @watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AACfli64PT7wz1Lpcu by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T03:48:20Z
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@macoman4u1 @watch4thedrop Wouldn't that mean every vaccine would do this?
(DIR) Post #AACgYrygSgHrolKyHY by dacatindahat@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T03:57:13Z
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@umad80 @watch4thedrop This doctor provides the insight you’re looking for. https://t.me/bannonswarroom/1430
(DIR) Post #AACgfYjSPlh29iPAfI by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T03:58:25Z
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@dacatindahat @watch4thedrop That's what I'm referring to. Sounds like bullshit to me.
(DIR) Post #AADHXTTXltfPq7yB04 by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T10:51:33Z
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@umad80 This vaccine is different. Can you name one mass produced and wide-scale use of any mRNA (instructional) vaccine prior to this this one?@watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AADLYkhlb98PNkUGMS by darulharb@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T11:36:36Z
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@umad80 We've got to distinguish increased infectivity (ability to spread) from increased virulence (ability to cause disease). I don't believe that SARs-CoV-2 is being selected for being more deadly as a result of the vaccine, though I suppose it could be selected for greater infectivity, though how you'd distinguish that from how more infectious (but less deadly) viruses are naturally selected for through the "attenuation" process isn't clear. The virus mutates anyway, vaccine or not. ...
(DIR) Post #AADLdYX6HTfX4xmx6m by darulharb@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T11:37:28Z
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@umad80 All previous vaccine technology induced immunity to a lot more antigens (you had to learn to grow the virus in large-scale tissue culture first, which took a lot more time to figure out), while these mRNA vaccines induce immunity to just one of the virus' proteins (the spike), so it's not going to be as "robust" (as the scientists say). ...
(DIR) Post #AADLfutq5obn1lYAoy by darulharb@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T11:37:53Z
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@umad80 The old-fashioned "killed and disrupted" whole virus vaccines grown up from tissue culture would produce an immune response which is more like a natural infection, while the mRNA vaccine technology produces a response that is very specific and has the great advantage of not having to figure out how to grow the virus in culture (which cuts down on the time needed to get a vaccine produced). ...
(DIR) Post #AADLhdTdqAELZV7GLI by darulharb@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T11:38:12Z
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@umad80 The single-target vaccine could maybe select for greater infectivity, but I don't see how it would select for greater virulence in the face of the tendency towards attenuation. I basically agree that a vaccine targeting one particular part of a virus could provide a selection pressure for mutating that vaccine target, something that is much less likely to happen with a traditional vaccine, in which the virus would have to mutate multiple vaccine targets at once....
(DIR) Post #AADLn9sGod8pUvGlDE by darulharb@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T11:39:12Z
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@umad80 I would expect it hard to tell that the virus is mutating in response to the vaccine, its more that the virus presents a moving target to the vaccine makers, particularly where you've got a vaccine that's only inducing antibody against one particular part of the virus.[adapted from a conversation I had with @GuardAmerican yesterday on Gab]
(DIR) Post #AADM3bHgfpwd8pzwno by darulharb@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T11:42:10Z
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@umad80 I would expect it hard to tell that the virus is mutating in response to the vaccine, it's more that the virus presents a moving target to the vaccine makers, particularly where you've got a vaccine that's only inducing antibody against one particular part of the virus.[adapted from a conversation I had with @GuardAmerican yesterday on Gab]
(DIR) Post #AADMy4Gg6GN1FXS4n2 by Klang@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T11:52:22Z
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@umad80 @watch4thedrop That's not possible considering the vaccine was designed to mitigate the virus. Virus naturally mutate and change as a survival mechanism and it has nothing to do with the vaccine.
(DIR) Post #AADN0YSioFVZTUGrwW by Klang@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T11:52:50Z
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@umad80 @watch4thedrop That's not possible considering the vaccine was designed to mitigate the virus. Viruses naturally mutate and change as a survival mechanism and it has nothing to do with the vaccine.
(DIR) Post #AADNkVZHtyaPosFqDY by Jaime@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T12:01:08Z
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@umad80 @watch4thedrop Good Morning! Might be a thread🤷♀️I did read a few articles with very little data saying those who had the virus and were vaccinated after will become sicker if infected again. I personally don’t believe it.Why you might ask?Just in my circle over 30 Family and Friends over 30 of us have either had the virus plus vaccinated or just vaxed. That would be considered a small study. Everyone either had mild to zero side effects from the vax. To date no one has been infected.
(DIR) Post #AADOk14fNSIvCNGF0K by Jaime@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T12:12:15Z
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@umad80 @watch4thedrop I find it fruitless to worry about any of it.We each have our own truth. We weren’t forced to vax. In March of 2020 the assisted living facility where my sister lived the virus ran havoc and killed over half the residents including my sister.In 2021 Another sister who is now living in long term care facility with all the residents vaxed. The virus has infected just about half of the residents. No deaths, all recovering. No hospitalizations. That is my truth. As you may
(DIR) Post #AADPFDTLKdBycxgFyS by Jaime@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T12:17:53Z
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@umad80 @watch4thedrop Know I kept my own personal record. After Covid I went every 3 months and had my antibodies checked. I had Covid early April 2020. In Dec.2020 my titer was just under the number for immunity. When the vax was available to me I took it with my doctors advice as well. Tested afterwards my antibodies were well stocked. I continue to do this. In two weeks with my regular blood work I will have my antibodies checked again.I’m comfortable with my decisions.❤️
(DIR) Post #AADPxFsZkBUgpmTxK4 by ConnieinVA@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T12:25:51Z
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@Jaime Thanks for sharing. Interesting indeed. @umad80 @watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AADQSGhOkKAMLz2gNc by KathrynK@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T12:31:27Z
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@Jaime I'm so sorry about the loss of your sister in 2020. Glad to hear your other sister is doing well in her long term care facility. @umad80 @watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AADSwYeIlxdgcXAHeC by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T12:59:20Z
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@umad80 it’s horseshit. and recycled horseshit. i wrote a short thread debunking this in march 27th this year when the first few new variants and strains came out. pinned to my page if you want to read. when those variants flopped, this conspiracy theory went with it. now that delta is here, it’s been revived. therefore ‘recycled horseshit’ lol
(DIR) Post #AADTY16FxJgxZe6Oau by Jaime@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T13:06:06Z
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@ConnieinVA 💜@umad80 @watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AADTanE0025JPT30Xg by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T13:06:36Z
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@Klang @umad80 👆🏽 yup. what she said.the first cases of the current delta variant emerged in india in december of 2020. how many people were vaccinated at that time?
(DIR) Post #AADTcAlbxKTciKQYEa by Jaime@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T13:06:51Z
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@KathrynKThank you Kathryn💕 @umad80 @watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AADV2256yFaTGARXMW by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T13:22:44Z
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@umad80 @dacatindahat do you gotta make a telegram to watch it? can't see nothing
(DIR) Post #AADWu45XpCTz4lySoa by JamesPetrilla@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T13:43:42Z
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@watch4thedrop Here's a non-Telegram link:https://www.bitchute.com/video/wl7BYYGy0XcM/I agree with @umad80, my bullshit detector is going off on this. @dacatindahat
(DIR) Post #AADZJNtxUs9lfnkw5Y by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T14:10:41Z
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@JamesPetrilla @umad80 @dacatindahat Agree with him on masks. disagree on vaccines. I can spot 3 fallacies already and I haven't even finished the video. I think the biggest one is the expectation that vaccines should either be 100% perfect or not taken at all. Fortunately, we have solid data to show exactly how valuable getting vaccinated ishttps://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-data-from-the-states/
(DIR) Post #AADaPGARGVevNTpVzc by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T14:22:57Z
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@darulharb Yes. Exactly.
(DIR) Post #AADaRsJEQSwyFfBpBo by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T14:23:25Z
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@darulharb @umad80 Yes.
(DIR) Post #AADbzp8cp2G2DUyr5M by Sydneykaye01@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T14:40:46Z
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@watch4thedrop @JamesPetrilla @umad80 @dacatindahat Why wouldn't a vaccine encourage a mutation prone virus to mutate around it? Isn't that what kinda happens with the flu and why there's a new flu shot every year? Sounds like a natural thing to me.
(DIR) Post #AADcIhCeY4fn6nrang by JamesPetrilla@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T14:44:11Z
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@watch4thedrop I found an interesting response to Dr. Stock's claims by a Dr. Nirenberg:https://www.deplatformdisease.com/blog/addressing-dr-daniel-stock-claimsWhat he says refutes a lot of what Stock claims, and seems pretty reasonable, although Nirenberg advocates for mask use by quoting the IDSA so I don't know how I feel about that...https://www.idsociety.org/covid-19-real-time-learning-network/infection-prevention/masks-and-face-coverings-for-the-public/@umad80 @dacatindahat
(DIR) Post #AADd0HQvilZfvXK9BY by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T14:52:03Z
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@Sydneykaye01 @JamesPetrilla @umad80 @dacatindahat yep. it is natural for mutations to form. there's no proof any of these variants are tied to the vaccines. and it wouldn't even be that hard to prove. Find patient zero and see if he was vaccinated. First case of the delta variant emerged in december 2020 in india. Unfortunately for the conspiracy theorists, zero people were vaccinated at that time. oops. 🤷♂️
(DIR) Post #AADdBUigf9jeJrydqy by Philly_Fan@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T14:54:05Z
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@watch4thedrop @Sydneykaye01 @JamesPetrilla @umad80 @dacatindahat That's the trouble - We can't simultaneously vaccinate everybody in the world to 100%. We'll never even come close. Covid is unfortunately here to stay, and I suspect we'll be making new vaccines on a yearly basis, or more often, just like with the flu.
(DIR) Post #AADdFEiM71Jvq1beXw by Sydneykaye01@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T14:54:45Z
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@watch4thedrop @JamesPetrilla @umad80 @dacatindahat Guess we'll find out if/when there's another variant. 🤷♀️
(DIR) Post #AADdRwMzd0RqhxfieO by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T14:57:03Z
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@Sydneykaye01 @JamesPetrilla @umad80 @dacatindahat
(DIR) Post #AADdcEFG1VLh2ixYAa by Sydneykaye01@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T14:58:55Z
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@watch4thedrop @JamesPetrilla @umad80 @dacatindahat 😂
(DIR) Post #AADdcTjwPho16EQlZw by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T14:58:58Z
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@Philly_Fan @Sydneykaye01 @JamesPetrilla @umad80 @dacatindahat Yep. we'll likely need boosters in the future. How often is still not clear.
(DIR) Post #AADeJu5ILEQTG17pbc by Sydneykaye01@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T15:06:48Z
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@watch4thedrop @JamesPetrilla @umad80 @dacatindahat How many variants are even out there now?
(DIR) Post #AADepGhoHoKEOQ62XA by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T15:12:28Z
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@Sydneykaye01 @JamesPetrilla @umad80 @dacatindahat they going with the greek alphabet theme I think so there was 3 other variants before delta that all crapped out. I believe there's a lambda, eta, and gamma at the moment but they are getting drowned out by delta.
(DIR) Post #AADfQn7Qjmt5dRyLOi by Sydneykaye01@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T15:19:15Z
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@watch4thedrop @JamesPetrilla @umad80 @dacatindahat 👍 So it's mostly just delta that's wreaking havoc? I've seen the media and liberals saying that it's so much more dangerous. I can't bring myself to buy into the hysteria.
(DIR) Post #AADfos5buNXw09bTLE by JamesPetrilla@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T15:23:36Z
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@watch4thedrop @Sydneykaye01 Yep, CDC has great info on the variants and their current classifications in regards to how troublesome they are:https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/variant-info.html @umad80 @dacatindahat
(DIR) Post #AADhdQpd6yYyBankrQ by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T15:43:57Z
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@JamesPetrilla @Sydneykaye01 @umad80 @dacatindahat Great find. and If you look at the dates these variants were first identified, they were mostly in october to december in 2020 before a single person was vaccinated.
(DIR) Post #AADiQ8fnPh803dQXoW by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T15:52:45Z
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@macoman4u1 @watch4thedrop So everyone should take the J&J one? 😂My friend Drop encouraged me to read his thread on this: https://social.quodverum.com/@watch4thedrop/105963528414796634
(DIR) Post #AADiYOVYQL9nU8Zavw by JamesPetrilla@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T15:54:15Z
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@watch4thedrop Good catch, I missed that.@Sydneykaye01 @umad80 @dacatindahat
(DIR) Post #AADipK0gOsM2SSClai by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T15:57:18Z
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@dacatindahat @EPL16 @Sydneykaye01 @JamesPetrilla @umad80 irregardless of the current fear porn, the vaccines we have right now is not as ineffective against delta as people are saying. A few studies have come out already saying it's only around 5% less effective. and let's not forget that it was more than effective against the first 3 variants that petered out. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891
(DIR) Post #AADisfVKwOs1zT8fbs by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T15:57:55Z
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@Jaime @watch4thedrop This is interesting. Many suggest they do not have to take the vaccine because they now have natural immunity. However, if I'm reading this correctly, these antibodies actually do decrease over time. So it would be prudent for people who have had covid or suspect they had it, to get vaxxed.
(DIR) Post #AADj192T16JjuFg2dc by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T15:59:27Z
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@watch4thedrop @Klang I was actually thinking that too. There were already variants out before anyone was vaccinated, or at least mass vaxxed. And in India, didn't have a vaccine until January.
(DIR) Post #AADj3IpfZjhWrMiiIK by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T15:59:50Z
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@jannadale @watch4thedrop Yeah, especially those who are vaccinated.
(DIR) Post #AADj7cxkfnPIS2Yx6G by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T16:00:37Z
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@watch4thedrop @dacatindahat I saw it on Sabastian Gorka's Twitter feed.
(DIR) Post #AADjE0vIVAjwV6SaFk by rarity@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T16:01:46Z
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@umad80 @watch4thedrop @Klang Still waiting for the Kappa Delta Rho variant — they had the best toga parties!
(DIR) Post #AADjV7dwlmHyGXVD0q by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T16:04:51Z
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@rarity @watch4thedrop @Klang
(DIR) Post #AADjbDqmbZ9pFoPnV2 by rarity@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T16:05:58Z
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@umad80 @watch4thedrop @Klang 😀😅
(DIR) Post #AADjr8wEdSyceXYaWm by ConnieinVA@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T16:08:49Z
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@rarity Bahahah! @umad80 @watch4thedrop @Klang
(DIR) Post #AADkSXGb96a2owua5Q by Jaime@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T16:15:15Z
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@umad80 Yes, You read correctly. Most would not know this unless they were in a formal study. I decided to do this for myself. To note, With a regular antibody test it showed I had no antibodies which then made me proceed to have a titer test.After I was vaccinated I had a regular antibody test as the doctor said I was loaded up.Will have blood work in a few weeks and that is now part of my regular blood work.❤️@watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AADkW7TMzOhlyqauoa by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T16:16:15Z
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@Jaime @watch4thedrop Awesome. Keep me posted!
(DIR) Post #AADkfsajAl4SirgpmK by Jaime@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T16:18:01Z
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@umad80 I most certainly will.❤️@watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AADxPOX0SxKOGQQ2wS by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T18:40:41Z
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@umad80 Everyone who wants to take the vaccine (of any type) should do so if they want. Drop’s explanations and threads are excellent. I’ve probably read them all. Until some studies are in about outcomes with respect to what I have risk for, I won’t take any of them. Some people are always on the bell curve lag line, therefore not ALL people SHOULD take the vaccine.@watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AAE0lzrkdZU4HwajKK by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T19:18:24Z
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@macoman4u1 @watch4thedrop 😂The discussion was whether vaccines cause mutations. There is absolutely no proof of this. So, instead of acknowledging this, you change to the tired “Not enough research!” canard.
(DIR) Post #AAE9xtXwrEUJkf4q36 by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T21:01:23Z
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@umad80 😂 Yea, I did didn’t I? 😆 Happens sometimes.Maybe there’s no proof it does and there’s no proof it doesn’t. This is one reason why the FDA typically takes years to study the drugs and its effects. @watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AAEOM0q8n6rugDyrzs by JM@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T23:42:36Z
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@watch4thedrop Actually, the trials started in Oct. 2020.@Sydneykaye01 @JamesPetrilla @umad80 @dacatindahat
(DIR) Post #AAETHFQHe05aEOQwds by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T00:37:47Z
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@macoman4u1 @watch4thedrop I would say it takes years because of government bullshit.It's been 8 months since the first dose was given to the public and 10 months since the trials started. We'd have known if something was a problem.
(DIR) Post #AAEV1Yns1JtLc676BM by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T00:57:21Z
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@umad80 Maybe the problem may produce itself in another year or two where someone will do a study on why people have x and others don't, and the only conclusion they could make was vaxed and unvaxed. Who knows? All we know is what we know today. That's it. @watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AAEVWQZWfrgP3s7fYO by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T01:02:56Z
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@macoman4u1 @watch4thedrop You mean, like with everything?Look at how many drugs have been approved by the FDA and still end up being recalled years later. Chantix comes to mind.Nothing, and I mean nothing, will be foolproof whether we studied it for months or years.
(DIR) Post #AAEWJcvHXhLHYZl6uW by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T01:11:50Z
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@umad80 I’m not sure they look for foolproof before they release the drug. They conduct studies and trials and if meets FDA criteria for what a safe medicine is, then it’s done. They only know what they know at that time.I think you made my point.@watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AAEXMUIi9iI7dee6BU by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T01:23:33Z
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@macoman4u1 @watch4thedrop I didn't make any point. You're trying to say that we need more studies before we can know anything! And there was plenty of studies before the released many medications. Time is never going to change anything.You'll never know if anything will cause any issue because you'd have to test the whole population. We're all different.Could you imagine if we waited 20 years on everything? We'd never had any innovation.
(DIR) Post #AAEXnshvWJNp9ZVDEG by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T01:28:30Z
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@umad80 When the FDA says a drug is safe and approved for use forever (don’t expect a recall) then it will be safe as defined by the FDA.@watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AAEXznYwTUIUfhyyK8 by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T01:30:39Z
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@macoman4u1 @watch4thedrop I don't get your point. I'm assuming you're someone who believes that horseshit about the FDA not approving the vaccine? Because the FDA gives the emergency approval... Which was just used to hurry up and get it on the market and into people's arms. It's basically to cut all the red tape bullshit.
(DIR) Post #AAEY6A6Db31UJ0a6tM by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T01:31:46Z
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@macoman4u1 @umad80 @watch4thedrop Are you suggesting the imbecility that the FDA approved an unsafe anything for use?Really?
(DIR) Post #AAEYcdBSzoJJmDWE2y by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T01:37:40Z
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@Debradelai No. Vaccines are declared safe for emergency use and safe for general use. This is about side effects, not the efficacy of a drug. If the FDA says it’s safe it’s safe by their definition of a safe drug. What is their definition of a safe drug? I imagine it’s something like - can be released because we don’t, at this time based on these studies and the performance during trials, expect the drug to do harm. But there are side effects. All this is about.@umad80 @watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AAEaIuY0vcjhkIn1G4 by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T01:56:30Z
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@macoman4u1 @umad80 @watch4thedropYes. I can also imagine 4.5 BILLION people vaccinated in this world with no adverse consequences, too.I do not hang my hat on unnecessary bureaucracies we should dispense with anyhow.
(DIR) Post #AAEaTHDhUJXwxVENMm by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T01:58:23Z
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@macoman4u1 @umad80 @watch4thedrop Oh, yes.Fucking aspirin has side effects.Or sugar.Or beef.Time to grow up.
(DIR) Post #AAEaePVd0dsBquvR6e by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T02:00:23Z
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@Debradelai 6. Once FDA approves a drug, does this mean that the product is perfectly safe?No drug product is “perfectly safe.”https://www.fda.gov/about-fda/center-drug-evaluation-and-research-cder/frequently-asked-questions-about-cder#6The number of people vaccinated had nothing to do with the thread.@umad80 @watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AAEajroRCnkj58KELo by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T02:01:23Z
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@Debradelai I’m just going by what the FFA says about safety. They work for balance of risk and reward.@umad80 @watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AAEaldWrHZ3DMSwkDo by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T02:01:43Z
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@macoman4u1 @Debradelai @watch4thedrop This had to do with the idea that vaccines cause mutations. It, excuse the term, mutated into vaccines being safe by your own toots.
(DIR) Post #AAEawFlTydikqMqiMy by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T02:03:37Z
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@umad80 The ideas we were exchanging progressed as we discussed. There was nothing stagnant that I’m aware of.@Debradelai @watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AAEb5ZPUJ1Z4NX0JKi by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T02:05:19Z
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@macoman4u1 @Debradelai @watch4thedrop My point being, you changed the subject and Saul is commenting on that part of the conversation.
(DIR) Post #AAEb7FIg2puaaWcL9k by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T02:05:36Z
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@macoman4u1 @umad80 @watch4thedrop Yes. It fucking does.Absurd on its face.Cretinous on its presentation.
(DIR) Post #AAEbR2jMUJJpObXTbE by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T02:09:12Z
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@umad80 I answered by saying anything is possible, and the ball got carried back and forth. That’s all that happened. So what? Did I break some conversational rule or something?@Debradelai @watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AAEbjzMHFa1ARGm8FU by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T02:12:37Z
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@macoman4u1 @Debradelai @watch4thedrop I feel like you're just trolling now. You told Saul that's not what we were discussing, I said that you changed the topic of conversation, and now you're acting like I'm disallowing topic change. I'm pointing out that you did change the topic and therefore Saul commented. But I'm guessing you know that.
(DIR) Post #AAEbr8oySxCBoYbnyy by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T02:13:54Z
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@Debradelai I don’t know what is or isn’t possible because I don’t know all the iterations any new drug can take at some point. What’s cretinous about that? The vaccines are safe. Could vaccines cause something unexpected? FDA says they can because they aren’t perfect. If not perfect then anything is possible.@umad80 @watch4thedrop
(DIR) Post #AAEcFKuVActIG4jOqm by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T02:18:16Z
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@macoman4u1 @umad80 @watch4thedrop 1.Another fucking fallacy. They have been lengthy studies for flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus (CMV). This, out of necessity, is the first one produced in this scale.In fact, it is the first vaccine of any type produced in this scale.Which says NOTHING about its safety or efficacy.Just another dime a dozen fallacy.
(DIR) Post #AAEcJ4aJoIb2mf4YbI by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T02:18:57Z
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@macoman4u1 @umad80 @watch4thedrop 2.Straw man fallacies are the last resort of those deprived of arguments.Now, I've been nice.I've answered your questions and tolerated your fallacies and evasion.Now it's over.If you feel compelled to argue Russian and Xhinese propaganda points against Pfeizer and Moderna vaccines in a circular jerkoff pretending to sound intellectual...do it elsewhere.Enough is enough.Even for you.FINIS
(DIR) Post #AAEclrNG0RlSD3gpYu by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T02:24:09Z
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@macoman4u1 @umad80 @watch4thedropNo more moving of goalposts for you.If you don't believe "the vaccine actually causes the virus to mutate and be worse..."You are too ignorant, too stupid or are not playing in good faith.Whatever the case, you will now be limited to your followers.Any mor antivax bullshit and you can go back to Twitter. They lap it up over there.
(DIR) Post #AAEcyb3jyXYbNIdOoy by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T02:26:28Z
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@DebradelaiOk then.
(DIR) Post #AAF1C3iB9kLwu1V8z2 by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-12T06:57:48Z
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@Zemeliko @Teneseo @dacatindahat @EPL16 @watch4thedrop @Sydneykaye01 @JamesPetrilla And let's not forget, they don't always get the flu vaccine right. They don't always make the right guess.