Post AACbrRVCcb11R8aIrY by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
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(DIR) Post #AABdw57nFnAAES0zVA by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-08-10T15:53:05.891083Z
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No. Fuck you Snopes. Your site is continually full of bullshit. Anyone who donates to either Snopes or Wikipedia is a god damn fool. The Internet would evolve better tools if both of these pieces of shit went away.
(DIR) Post #AABe1Zvs8fF9EE3mlM by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T15:54:01Z
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@djsumdog Wikipedia has high quality good content and is relatively not biased (it is sometimes bias). Snopes on the other hand is a bias piece of shit.
(DIR) Post #AABe4eDqe4W7OzvpA0 by nerdman@blob.cat
2021-08-10T15:54:38.656966Z
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@djsumdog Snopes.
(DIR) Post #AABe94s3VbU9D2qns8 by sullybiker@sully.site
2021-08-10T15:55:24Z
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@djsumdog Are they struggling? I can hardly believe it, seeing as they're the go to site for every asshole that still thinks they're a neutral fact-check, which they have not been for years.
(DIR) Post #AABeBmyEWCFWYr26pE by alex@gleasonator.com
2021-08-10T15:55:51.800061Z
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@djsumdog I think overall Wikipedia has done more good than harm. Yes it’s administered by 4,000 insufferable idiots with political motivations, but at least I can read about the global history of snowmen. And it has greatly increased awareness of free culture.
(DIR) Post #AABeEr3Rn3Ja62vxKa by JSDorn@poa.st
2021-08-10T15:56:29.142565Z
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@djsumdog something something stop shoring up the imperium
(DIR) Post #AABeNADsPIf3rWm3aS by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-08-10T15:57:59.504245Z
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@freemo Wikipedia is horrifically bias. Larry Sanger (one of the two founders) did a great post on it:https://larrysanger.org/2020/05/wikipedia-is-badly-biased/
(DIR) Post #AABeOlt5r7SGy1os4m by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2021-08-10T15:58:15Z
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@alex @djsumdog No, wikipedia is the worst offender, since all of its bias is still hidden from the eyes of the normie.While normies know 1 percent of how evil Google and Facebook are, Wiki is still considered a good source.
(DIR) Post #AABeTvcV6AJwbEW8dk by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T15:59:08Z
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@djsumdog Link isnt loading for me, but I think I already read that.
(DIR) Post #AABeUrm4siRaxjRbcW by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2021-08-10T15:59:19.406453Z
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@djsumdog Decentralization must be the next phase of the internet libre. I can see that now.
(DIR) Post #AABeWbv0nvlKMiSGXY by runfox@pleroma.runfox.tk
2021-08-10T15:59:42.105258Z
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@djsumdogEven if you did donate the guy who runs snopes would just spend all the money on high prices whore like he did woth the money they had
(DIR) Post #AABebu26smKdziIZ8q by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-08-10T16:00:38.341295Z
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@LukeAlmighty @alex I posted it elsewhere in this thread, but I'll put it here too. Larry Sanger did a great post about the fall of the platform he founded. There is a lot of stuff that's fine on the great wiki, but anything slightly controversial suffers from horrific bias:https://larrysanger.org/2020/05/wikipedia-is-badly-biased/If you're going to use Wikipedia, always do two things:1. Read the Talk page first. There's a lot of good stuff in there2. Go back in the history to a random point at 5 years and 10 years. See how the article has changed.
(DIR) Post #AABeh4xFhgB9JbUidU by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-10T16:01:35.620971Z
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@freemo @djsumdog Wikipedia puts a message into any vessel that can hold one. It's difficult to do for articles like "Identification of alkaline earth cations," but they would if they could.
(DIR) Post #AABfMULoBc5Vx7j4ng by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T16:08:57Z
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@natsock @djsumdog Maybe if you want to consider settled facts stated as fact as being a "bias" sure. ::shrug::
(DIR) Post #AABfg3Dam3G7auD8ts by alyx@gameliberty.club
2021-08-10T16:12:36Z
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@djsumdog Wait, is Snopes actually failing? With all the media constantly pushing it down our throats as the messiah of fact checking, it's still failing? This is truly beautiful.
(DIR) Post #AABfph0qBmNdcWqP32 by astatine@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-10T16:14:20.933089Z
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@alyx @djsumdog snopes has been begging for money for a while I think
(DIR) Post #AABfrMqq7SAvfcxstk by OscillatingAgama@gleasonator.com
2021-08-10T16:14:38.831302Z
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@djsumdog Good advices indeed. @LukeAlmighty @alex
(DIR) Post #AABfxiYiK7mgjVVyLY by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-10T16:15:48.326452Z
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@freemo @djsumdog I'm not going to convince you that Wikipedia admins have a perspective.
(DIR) Post #AABg7qJAMoUhf94QIi by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T16:17:30Z
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@natsock They do have a perspective. But is a democratic system so their perspective is little more than the perspective of experts on any one subject. There is a lean, as I said, but that lean is towards those facts which are accepted by the expert community on a subject. That said it is only their language that leans towards accepted consensus, they still include contrary opinions no matter how absurd.@djsumdog
(DIR) Post #AABgCOCWIQjlwC865o by alyx@gameliberty.club
2021-08-10T16:18:26Z
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@astatine @djsumdog I honestly didn't know that. Partly because I don't use Snopes, partly because I don't pay attention to internet beggars.
(DIR) Post #AABggJeJmeBKVaOzSa by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-08-10T16:23:50.206882Z
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@alyx @astatine I have given to Wikipedia in the past, but I wouldn't again. I've also given money to Archive.org, but they're in a weird spot lately; stuff is getting removed from Archive and they got into some legal trouble with their completely dumbass move to allow unlimited ebook loans that sent the publishers after them.I wonder if Snopes is really out of money or just grifting. I'm just waiting for leaked bank account information showing several million in the bank with most of being spent on hookers and blow.
(DIR) Post #AABgp2wnFbPfJYCsro by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T16:25:26.399897Z
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@freemo @natsock @djsumdog very blue-pilled take, sir. Probably more or less true, but that misses the bias of academic institutions that gatwkeep 'expert' status.
(DIR) Post #AABgwUSzKi5GgtobYG by guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info
2021-08-10T16:26:46.343278Z
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@djsumdog @alyx @astatine I used to have a recurring monthly donation to archive.org but stopped when they starting putting "fact-checking" disclaimers on archived sites on the Wayback Machine. Made sure to tell them this was the precise reason I stopped.
(DIR) Post #AABgzuNJSjVjugn48e by alyx@gameliberty.club
2021-08-10T16:27:22Z
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@djsumdog @astatine I mean, they're definitely grifting either way. It's not like the work they do is actually worth a fraction of what they're probably making anyway. But whether the organization is actually having financial problems, honestly I'd believe it. Something tells me a lot of people involved there are getting bigger salaries than they should.
(DIR) Post #AABh719keFhIyKpxj6 by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-10T16:28:41.474230Z
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@freemo @djsumdog Not to be contrarian, but Wikipedia is comprised of citations, and the strength demanded of those citations is entirely up to the personal perspective of Wikipedia's admins.That is how insane and poorly-cited narratives remain stated as fact on Wikipedia's article about the Tulsa Negro Uprising.
(DIR) Post #AABhIzorRdSsIhmGoq by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T16:30:44Z
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@anonymoose Well yes and no. On wikipedia the gatekeepers are the general public, not the experts. However the policy adopted by the general public agrees that experts should be differed to, so you will see the votes generally favor an experts opinion on a matter, but they are free to vote to the contrary.So the gatekeeping of academics doesnt really apply to Wikipedia since it isnt the academics themselves who have any voting power compared to the general public.As for the gate keeping of academics, as a side note, while true, and in this case the academics themselves and not the general public get the say, it is generally not much of a gated community. If you wish to submit a paper for a journal there is no requirement you be an expert or hold a degree. The paper is judged on its own merrit, and not based on if the conclusions are agreed upon but rather if the process used in the paper is free from errors, and the quality of the sources used by a similar standard.Highly controversial topics with generally unaccepted conclusions get posted all the time should the proper scientific rigor be present.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABhO1v14Dm0G93ajI by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T16:31:39Z
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@natsock Typically a poorly cited article is flagged as such. But yea it does happen.@djsumdog
(DIR) Post #AABhOpQwyHQrpNNHo8 by lelouchebag@shitposter.club
2021-08-10T16:31:54.618065Z
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@guizzy @djsumdog @alyx @astatine I give my internet gibs to spc, don't trust any other site not to go to shit
(DIR) Post #AABi2pilK3FkImmWsi by astatine@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-10T16:39:08.130440Z
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@alyx @djsumdog their fact checking is pretty much just going to sources they agree with and reprinting it into an articlepretty much the same thing as getting facts into a Wikipedia article
(DIR) Post #AABjEcZ2AIr8vSPrO4 by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T16:52:27.974066Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock Sokal² proved conclusively that papers need not meet any standards of rigor if only they arrive at the 'correct' conclusion. The correlate, that papers meeting the most stringent standards of rigor are blackballed for reaching the wrong conclusions was shown by the department of East Anglia email dumps.I'm not sure what you mean by "voting" on Wikipedia, I've edited an article or two in my day, I've never seen a vote on anything. But any article that is the least bit contentious is locked, and only a wiki editors get to weigh in. That the public gets a say in topics about which there is no debate is meaningless to the question about how debated topics are handled.
(DIR) Post #AABjswaD9dFob4C6JE by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T16:59:39Z
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@anonymoose Sauying a person proved a thing does not mean a think is proven... If you wish to argue how such a claim is proven and thus prove your point go for it. But its pretty weak to just claim as an axiom for it to be proven.The irony is that peer-review is just as open as submitting journals in many cases. So if you can identify a case where the data itself is clearly and provably false you can submit it just like anyone else.As for wikipedia voting, reversion wars are capped at 2 reverts per person. So if someone reverts your changes you can revert back. If you run out of reverts and still feel your contribution is correct then you go to the talk page and assert your point and ask for a community vote. The result of the vote determines if the edit stands.So yea, pretty much everything is constantly up for vote should you feel another editor or group of editors are wrong.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABkeCAf15lqYIm4Gm by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-10T17:08:18.110167Z
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@freemoTaking a democratic vote about facts is stupid.The irony is that peer-review is just as open as submitting journals in many cases. So if you can identify a case where the data itself is clearly and provably false you can submit it just like anyone else.Publishing is the only metric of legitimacy, and publishing is highly, highly subject to clout. @anonymoose @djsumdog
(DIR) Post #AABkoOdZWQQ86zA54q by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T17:10:03Z
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@natsock I think your confusing clout with proven expertise and mastery of a subject.@djsumdog @anonymoose
(DIR) Post #AABkpoP5D17QJX3ki8 by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-10T17:10:24.102261Z
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@freemoI’m really not. @djsumdog @anonymoose
(DIR) Post #AABktySXlPBaeyf9vM by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T17:11:01Z
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@natsock You really are@djsumdog @anonymoose
(DIR) Post #AABl3usNwNsCRVUUj2 by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-10T17:12:57.057517Z
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@freemoI have never spoken to or heard from a scientist who agrees with this assertion, unless they already have clout within that system. Everyone else acknowledges that it operates this way. @djsumdog @anonymoose
(DIR) Post #AABlMCHNyU51d8txUe by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T17:16:06Z
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@natsock While I kind of expect people who lack expertise but still think they are scientists to share your opinion. I'd also expect the people who worked hard to become experts and are recognized as such to agree with the system.So you really arent saying anything useful there, yes, I'd expect wanna be scientists who lack expertise to complain that people see them for what they are.@djsumdog @anonymoose
(DIR) Post #AABmjsWz9Mr7Hn3QIa by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-10T17:31:44.359098Z
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@freemoYou’re backpedaling on the idea that peer review is “open,” and in fact saying it shouldn’t be, since “wannabes” might infiltrate the system.@djsumdog @anonymoose
(DIR) Post #AABmwT3v9afC3oSjvU by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T17:33:47Z
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@natsock No I'm not.. peer review is open, but the weight of your arguments comes from the expertise demonstrated by your arguments. If you cant make your argument with the level or rigor and correctness that an expert can then your argument will not be considered valid. Doesnt make it any less open to you.@djsumdog @anonymoose
(DIR) Post #AABn3nkqcOlAGQ2Qro by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T17:35:20.297715Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock >Sauying a person proved a thing does not mean a think is proven… If you wish to argue how such a claim is proven and thus prove your point go for it. But its pretty weak to just claim as an axiom for it to be proven.In this case, yes; axiomatically having peer reviewed journals publish (and give awards for excellence to) garbage papers with physically impossible ‘research designs’ proves that peer review filters on factors other than scientific rigor.
(DIR) Post #AABnAj22ZkPtdyNij2 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T17:36:29Z
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@anonymoose Except that you havent proven that that is the norm in the scientific community, so no, you havent "proven" anything. You just stated it as proven and expect people to accept that assertion.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABnFbhHH2qULJzuvg by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T17:37:28.106597Z
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@freemo @natsock @djsumdog >I’d also expect the people who worked hard to become experts and are recognized as such to agree with the system.People who the system give clout to like the system? You don’t say….
(DIR) Post #AABnOedRie7K3tWHLM by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T17:39:00Z
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@anonymoose To be more specific, experts tend to prefer systems that have experts... yes. Experts do love being in communities where they can be productive and get to the bottom of facts without all the noise of uneducated people who cant even make an evidence based argument that isnt riddled with obvious errors.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABnXmswPooqFr7e4m by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T17:40:38Z
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@anonymoose Its almost like experts would rather be more productive by working with other experts than to waste all day arguing with a flat-earther who insists they are right because they dont know any better.... Funny that.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABnbJ9ostqtDKhCeO by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T17:41:23.489180Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock Are you asserting that Sokal never happened? Do you deny the fact that “peer reviewed” “academic” journals published their papers? That they gave awards to them?Or are you special pleading? “Yes, that is all facts in evidence, but….” [magic hand wave] “not all journals”?
(DIR) Post #AABnoeBA2PJWAygS3c by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-10T17:43:48.364641Z
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@freemoSo Wikipedia is valid because it is democratic, while journals are valid because they aren't democratic.Normalcy bias is a hell of a drug.@anonymoose @djsumdog
(DIR) Post #AABoBAJbElXiDPMu1Y by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T17:47:47Z
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@anonymoose You do realize the Sokal Affair involved the submission of a nonsense paper to a **non-peer reviewed** publication right? Even if it was submitted to a peer-reviewed publication it is not an indication of the entire community or all publications in that community anyway.So no I dont deny the Sokal incident, it just isnt remotely relevant to the discussion of peer-review@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABoNi9ZFlnAdaesOu by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T17:50:07.728806Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock Yes yes, experts are pure angels working tirelessly for the betterment of man, they do not have base human emotions or motivation DON’T EVER QUESTION THEM!Truly this is the way of science Lysenkoism . 🙄I recommend you read less Neil Degrasse Tyson more Richard Feynman>Another of the qualities of science is that it teaches the value of rational thought as well as the importance of freedom of thought; the positive results that come from doubting that the lessons are all true. You must here distinguish–especially in teaching–the science from the forms or procedures that are sometimes used in developing science. It is easy to say, “We write, experiment, and observe, and do this or that.” You can copy that form exactly. But great religions are dissipated by following form without remembering the direct content of the teaching of the great leaders. In the same way, it is possible to follow form and call it science, but that is pseudo-science. In this way, we all suffer from the kind of tyranny we have today in the many institutions that have come under the influence of pseudoscientific advisers.>It should not be “science has shown” but “this experiment, this effect, has shown.” And you have as much right as anyone else, upon hearing about the experiments–but be patient and listen to all the evidence–to judge whether a sensible conclusion has been arrived at.http://www.feynman.com/science/what-is-science/
(DIR) Post #AABoT9r9gJti0Mdwcy by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T17:51:01Z
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@natsock Wow you really are struggling here.. no I didnt say anything remotely like that.Wikipedia is democrat and open to all to vote. Ergo the original assertion that there is gate keeping by academics is erroneous.Similarly journals have value because anyone can submit peer-review and objections and that peer-review process is discussed, usually openly. Thus ensuring that any objections or corrections are considered and open to the reader to review and thus judge the merit of the journal.Its about open processes, not democracy.@djsumdog @anonymoose
(DIR) Post #AABoY6k0gvb1n6f4c4 by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T17:52:00.790134Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock >As for the gate keeping of academics, as a side note, while true, and in this case the academics themselves and not the general public get the say, it is generally not much of a gated community. If you wish to submit a paper for a journal there is no requirement you be an expert or hold a degree. The paper is judged on its own merrit, and not based on if the conclusions are agreed upon but rather if the process used in the paper is free from errors, and the quality of the sources used by a similar standard.[search in text: “Peer review” 0 results]Moving the goal-posts are we?
(DIR) Post #AABoeY5luj5AM8uaQa by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T17:53:03Z
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@anonymoose Never claimed experts are angels or perfect, this is why the system is open to anyone objecting and thus reviewed... But yes, you do need to be an expert on a subject if you wish to have any valuable contribution to the bleeding edge of a topic (research)I have read everything Feynman has published, I have read nothing Neil Degrasse Tyson has published... nice try.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABorU8JwbehqIGwkK by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T17:55:26Z
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@anonymoose Are you nuts, the entire conversation (once we started mentioning journals) was about peer-reviewed journals.So now your just saying "there are examples of random scientists writing papers that reflect their own opinions that lack intellectual rigor"... yea no shit, we have peer-review for a reason.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABouCFYtFGpFOx6MC by polarisera@spinster.xyz
2021-08-10T17:56:00.376340Z
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@alex @djsumdog Let's not forget wokipedia doesn't delete, it just hides and revises. That in itself is a game-changer for Orwellians. We get 1984-lite, since we get to keep scored. What is needed is better browsers so you can see what has changed, so Joe Dumbfuck Public can realize his reality is being gaslight.
(DIR) Post #AABp9By0E1oYiFtD6W by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T17:58:43.385530Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock And what would that reason be exactly? To publish the Sokal papers? Because they were all submitted to peer-reviewed journals. Uh-oh! Quite a pickle you’ve stepped in.
(DIR) Post #AABpJS6V5CVnemkyeG by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T18:00:34.560987Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock …🤔 unless you don’t trust Wikipedia, IDK, maybe it’s biased or something 🤷♀️
(DIR) Post #AABpndA4XG5IdfokTY by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T18:05:55Z
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@anonymoose No the link and screen shot you just published was **not** the Sokal Affair. The Sokal Affair was submitted to non-peer reviewed sources. You are referring to a different effort that was inspired by the Sokal Affair but in but sometime later, its a different incident.In the case of the Grievance Studies Affair they did submit to peer-reviewed journals, but not ones that were respected by the community at large. This is a huge distinction, the original Sokal affair wasnt peer reviewed but had published experts in the past. In this case it was peer-reviewed but no one with expertise, established or otherwise, was in on the peer review process. They picked fringe journals that already were known for posting nonsense and lacked rigerous **expert** review.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABq3fgMvkXJ5gZZom by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T18:08:51Z
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@anonymoose No wikipedia was completely correct... The issue is you linked a page on a topic that was not the topic being discussed.. funny how that might cause problems huh?@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABqZMEIn4ec1fYPNg by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-10T18:14:39.231287Z
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@freemoWikipedia is not democratic, because that would be stupid. In practice, it is controlled and narrated by a relatively small percentage of participants.Peer-review is also not open, as the parameters for credibility are 100% decided by an in-group who inevitably function as "tastemakers" for their field. The end result is obvious modification to scientific consensus in response to political consensus.Stop pretending that these are not centralized system just because you think it would be bad optics to approve of it.@djsumdog @anonymoose
(DIR) Post #AABqqXyCOTAhMQDbHM by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T18:17:39Z
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@anonymoose Also one important note is that, as I stated earlier, good peer review and good journals are not about only accepting correct conclusions, it is only about ensuring the **empirical** evidence presented is correct and scientific.Notice in the incident we are discussing wrong emperical evidence **was** in fact rejected from the papers. Those that were accepted may have had absurd premise or conclusion, but were empirically sound. There is a reason this incident had to focuse exclusively on gender studies topics rather than something like physics.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABqufCtQdRSxq3R5M by JSDorn@poa.st
2021-08-10T18:18:26.943173Z
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@natsock @freemo @anonymoose @djsumdog it's almost as if oligarchy is a thing
(DIR) Post #AABqxSYUvIW8awUdHM by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T18:19:00.662575Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock >No the link and screen shot you just published was not the Sokal Affair. The Sokal Affair was submitted to non-peer reviewed sources. You are referring to a different effort that was inspired by the Sokal Affair but in but sometime later, its a different incident.Zoom and Enhance:
(DIR) Post #AABqzziWbEpC1VOMCm by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T18:19:28.314124Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock >peer-reviewed journals, but not ones that were respected by the community at large. Special pleading much?
(DIR) Post #AABr10iMNR7tPEncC8 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T18:19:33Z
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@natsock No it is 100% democratic. All issues are held to public votes and the result is binding. This includes article edits when there is a conflict as well as wikipedia policy itself.Peer-review is open in the sense that anyone can submit peer-review. In doing so your feedback is included and must be responded to. The result is that it goes on record with he article and thus. demonstrates the credibility of the process (or lack thereof).@djsumdog @anonymoose
(DIR) Post #AABr64kgnDYxNOIuQ4 by grey@poa.st
2021-08-10T18:20:33.815214Z
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@djsumdog wait did the foundations and glownigs stop funding them? did they get tossed to the curb after trump? lol
(DIR) Post #AABrHf8bqrJtPV19O4 by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T18:22:39.463102Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock I switched to PC, I don’t have a handy way to write superscript so I used “Sokal” in subsequent posts, but always in reference to sokal(sokal) as in my op.
(DIR) Post #AABrNclhZeqLnb953A by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T18:23:39Z
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@anonymoose Fair, though in every other place you refered to it simply as "Sokal".. honest enough mistake.Either way your assertion is still erroneous since we are talking about papers submitted to journals that lacked academic credibility to start with. For Sokal to be a demonstration of the general community one would have to actually randomly select credible journals. Handpicking a handful of small journals you feel are most likely to post nonsense is not a demonstration of the scientific community as a whole.No one is arguing that there arent journals out there that happen to post with a lack of scientific rigour. Of course they exist, doesnt mean they are the norm.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABrYuTU5ECNto0Pq4 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T18:25:40Z
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@anonymoose Honestly I know your not this stupid, so stop acting like you are just to be right.At no point did everyone claim that every publication that happens to call itself a journal or has some review process in place is automatically high-quality or scholarly.Obviously scientists evaluate the quality of a journal when determining if it is posting articles of scholarly merit, and you are smart enough to know that.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABrZxXeAJ9NhXS9qq by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T18:25:58.078502Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock So “peer review” is meaningless now, when 10 minutes ago it was peek scientific excellence…. how interesting. :hashtag: NotAllJournals
(DIR) Post #AABraVQkATpYnyU7oO by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-10T18:26:04.125383Z
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@freemo> Peer-review is open in the sense that anyone can submit peer-review. In doing so your feedback is included and must be responded to.I don't know why you keep making this claim. I suppose bureaucrats under Lenin also believed they lived in an open meritocracy.@djsumdog @anonymoose
(DIR) Post #AABreDPH7bJm41ZCSG by Bro-Drillard@poa.st
2021-08-10T18:26:43.779652Z
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@alex @djsumdog Wikipedia is useful for hard sciences. For anything related to politics, (modern) history, culture, or social sciences it’s unreliable at best, biased and intentionally lying at worst.I used to donate. Stopped years ago.
(DIR) Post #AABrhOMwotVgvqzcg4 by Moon@shitposter.club
2021-08-10T18:27:18.673674Z
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@anonymoose @freemo @djsumdog @natsock Sokal didn't prove that science was garbage, it proved that post-modernism was garbage.
(DIR) Post #AABrjRGH2MdITvqaPI by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T18:27:40.983209Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock Who reviews the reviewers, you might say? I don’t think that cuts to your side of the argument.
(DIR) Post #AABrmsbvoFWAAmcOEi by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T18:28:13Z
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@anonymoose You are a hair away from being blocked. Not because of your opinion or disagreement, but because you are arguing like a 9 year old intentionally taking things out of context and acting like you are too stupid to understand what I said in the hope that by misrepresenting me you may convince yourself of being right.Up until this conversation I had a great deal of respect for your ability to disagree maturely, thoughtfully, and charitably. You are quickly loosing that respect, you are not this stupid and you know it.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABrorsVVKrSToJreK by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T18:28:26Z
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@Moon This right here i agree with.@djsumdog @anonymoose @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABrsDznjCHlwfKctc by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T18:29:08Z
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@anonymoose Who reviews the reviewers is easy... the readers, and the scientists who cite the journal. Which in turn reflects on that scientist as well.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABs0RGkGJHJQcAqTQ by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T18:30:45.155995Z
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@Moon @djsumdog @freemo @natsock “Academic science has either authorized such post-modernist institutions as we now have, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.” Lysander Spooner - ish
(DIR) Post #AABs8asoOwn3YursQ4 by Moon@shitposter.club
2021-08-10T18:32:13.685369Z
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@anonymoose @djsumdog @freemo @natsock they weren't big important journals, they were small, irrelevant ones.
(DIR) Post #AABsD0oLwY1t8QtBVg by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T18:33:01.671938Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock >Honestly I know your not this stupid, so stop acting like you are just to be right.If you think I’m so smart, I invite you to consider I’m making a valid point which you happen to disagree with, rather than ‘acting stupid’.
(DIR) Post #AABsIKQgQlAzQaLwQq by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T18:33:53Z
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@Moon Yup, and journals known to lack scientific integrity... It is very clear from anyone who reviewed the affair that they specifically selected low-quality journals most likely to accept papers without good quality review.They didnt even have a control group or random selection of journals, both of which would be needed in order to make any inference from the process.@djsumdog @anonymoose @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABsYB1r9IOkuFIUi0 by WreckageBrother@uuuu.bigguys.club
2021-08-10T18:30:30.503073Z
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@Bro-Drillard @alex @djsumdog it has only one use, and it's called Early Life.
(DIR) Post #AABsamaUTglXyHjvXs by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T18:37:14Z
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@anonymoose I wouldnt be engaging in disucssion with you if you didnt have a point worth discussing.As I said it isnt your conclusion or the topic that makes it look like your "acting stupid" it is the way you are arguing it. As I said your tactic has devolved to taking what I said out of context and misrepresenting it when you know damn well what was meant.. You are better than that, or at least, I thought you were. It looks more like a liberal having a tantrum at this point where they take what you said and misrepresent it knowing damn well what was really meant... Dont be that idiot, you are smarter than that.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AABsktJUKIiZj7bhaq by oversaturation@poa.st
2021-08-10T18:39:08.759158Z
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@Bro-Drillard @alex @djsumdog The Talk pages are very useful for finding hidden narratives and truths.
(DIR) Post #AABvBT56AGUm62g2KG by MaleGoddess@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-08-10T19:06:21.832707Z
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@freemo @djsumdogThe article on "Trump's Racism" has more citations than the article on the Civil War, all without any actual evidence.
(DIR) Post #AABvI98ygpaeHxfyqm by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T19:07:34.120439Z
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@Moon @djsumdog @natsock >they weren’t big important journals, they were small, irrelevant ones.1) We live in a world where 2/3rds of peer-reviewed studies fail replication. A ‘scientific’ result is 2:1 more likely to be false than true. Even absent post-modernism, academic science is just broken. Too much incentive to publish [anything] too little incentive to only publish [true result].2) I’m curious what limiting principle you think will prevent post-modernism from working its way up the food chain? I only see more wokeness in big journals (e.g., Nature, Science), not less since 2017.
(DIR) Post #AABvJh403weLmK5MQ4 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T19:07:43Z
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@MaleGoddess Do you have a speific example of a statement in that article which is stated as a fact explicitly (rather than as an opinion) that is false? Otherwise im not sure how many citations it has matters.@djsumdog
(DIR) Post #AABwj02kjUxhpy8IUK by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T19:23:37.770132Z
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@polarisera @alex @djsumdog >Let’s not forget wokipedia doesn’t deleteYet 😬
(DIR) Post #AABwjgfWFkvY2MaqkC by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2021-08-10T19:23:45.073016Z
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@djsumdog @freemo that site refuses to load on Vivaldi????
(DIR) Post #AABwuPHlDw3PJFalXM by Samhydeigger@poa.st
2021-08-10T19:25:40.415139Z
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@djsumdog @freemo I know there are a couple alt wikipedia types but they aren't as comprehensive sadly.
(DIR) Post #AAByDzGvkalUNO6WTA by berkberkman@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-10T19:40:25.969185Z
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@djsumdog @freemo It's getting significantly worse: https://larrysanger.org/2021/06/wikipedia-is-more-one-sided-than-ever/If you must use it for basic or technical info, use a frontend like Wikiless: https://codeberg.org/orenom/Wikiless
(DIR) Post #AAC0cWVY23HgJUljHc by Moon@shitposter.club
2021-08-10T20:07:15.269282Z
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@anonymoose @djsumdog @natsock I feel like the postmodernism problem is a smaller but more egregious problem in science. I would like to say the limiting principle is that in a lot of science and engineering fields things have to produce results, but I have to admit that doesn't seem to work anymore.
(DIR) Post #AAC1FhIlpnKh5GTK64 by lain@lain.com
2021-08-10T20:14:19.623425Z
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@anonymoose @Moon @djsumdog @natsock regarding 2), stop stealing people's money and giving it to postmodernists.
(DIR) Post #AAC20C7RaYIhz0LUCe by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-08-10T20:22:45.652610Z
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@Moon @anonymoose @natsock They have to produce results and there are some weird emergent incentives around that. The Coffee Break guy did an interesting analysis of various reproducibility problem with scientific journals comparing it to the evolution of the giraffe:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq8HOguXGFI
(DIR) Post #AAC2Gsy038j1VQt3g0 by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T20:25:46.587675Z
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@lain @Moon @djsumdog @natsock>stop stealing people's money and giving it to postmodernists.Indeed; this is the cure to many ills.
(DIR) Post #AAC3oibRBlJHAA1wSu by JonyKow@swampfoxden.com
2021-08-10T20:43:05.468775Z
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@djsumdog Maybe if the owner hadn't paid so many hookers, he'd have money for the site.
(DIR) Post #AAC4TGOEzKWpXFBtvU by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T20:50:24.631471Z
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@Moon @djsumdog @natsock The trouble with physics was really eye-opening vis-a-vis hard sciences still need to produce results. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/108939.The_Trouble_with_PhysicsApparently a large percentage of the world's physicists have basically occupied their time with little else besides writing cleaver equations that make no new predictions, and patting each other on the back for how cleaver their equations are since the invention of string theory 😬
(DIR) Post #AAC4USrY6HwSVZTLsm by EmmyNoether@spinster.xyz
2021-08-10T20:48:01.908979Z
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@anonymoose @polarisera @alex @djsumdog Weren’t they trying to delete Magdalen Burns’ entry on the grounds that she wasn’t notable enough?But 1984 is right - or Animal Farm. It always reminds me of the way Squealer is always up a ladder repainting the principles of Animalism, and some of the brighter animals half see what he’s up to, but can’t quite put their finger (hoof/paw) on it.
(DIR) Post #AAC6kxFT5uP9I1eRPs by pupperipherals@shitposter.club
2021-08-10T21:16:02.084237Z
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@MaleGoddess @freemo @djsumdog The old article on #Jerkcity had one of the record-high numbers of citations (pretty much all links to episodes of the comic itself)
(DIR) Post #AAC74S9wOPLkezMb9U by pupperipherals@shitposter.club
2021-08-10T21:19:33.231795Z
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@anonymoose @Moon @djsumdog @natsock At the end of the 19^th century, it was assumed that physics was complete and the only remaining work was in calculating universal constants to ever-greater precision. However, pulling at the Michelson-Morley experiment and the ultraviolet catastrophe gave rise to relativity and quantum mechanics, respectively.Perhaps the entire field of physics is at another similar plateau.
(DIR) Post #AAC7VfAI9714obVCPg by polarisera@spinster.xyz
2021-08-10T21:24:27.861737Z
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@EmmyNoether @anonymoose @alex @djsumdog You are exactly right -- getting on to wikipedia in the first place, to become a person of note is the 1984-style challenge. Good noticing.
(DIR) Post #AAC7YA2ALZcB8HtOlc by pupperipherals@shitposter.club
2021-08-10T21:24:54.963444Z
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@anonymoose @Moon @djsumdog @natsock 1. It's not so much that there too much incentive to publish any old crap so much as there is there is absolutely zero incentive to publish results on your recreation of another researcher's experiment. Even with replication studies, an incorrect initial conclusion means that there is a decades-long process of subsequent replication studies inching closer to the true result because jumping there directly would be rejuected for being outright incorrect.2. Today's real research seems to be published in field-specific medium-prestige journals. The big journals publish for too large of an audience for real scientific discussion to occur.
(DIR) Post #AAC7e70qUcoPV373RI by the0ther@noagendasocial.com
2021-08-10T21:25:59Z
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@djsumdog yeah fuck them, i still remember the first time i ever heard of that spooky website. it was a week or two after 9/11 and they posted that fake as "Truth" rating on a hijacker's passport being found on the ground in NYC.
(DIR) Post #AAC8Ku32ZRvxk7Xlgm by MaleGoddess@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-08-10T21:33:44.030478Z
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@freemo @djsumdogThat there's any evidence of "Trump's Racism"
(DIR) Post #AAC8UBnLxPdPOGdNCq by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T21:35:17Z
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@MaleGoddess Where exactly does it say that? What does it claim to be evidence of racism that is not? Be specific.@djsumdog
(DIR) Post #AAC9bRNcVkTDhvcSFk by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-10T21:47:55.601589Z
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@pupperipherals @Moon @djsumdog @natsock I think it’s true that replication is discouraged, but I also think publication eo ipso is incentivized. If not in fact, at least in the subjective estimation of the researchers themselves, which amounts to the same thing from the perspective of the effect on the quality of output.https://researchintegrityjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s41073-019-0066-6And this is not a new or unforeseeable problem:>The pressure on university scientists to publish research papers in great quantity is relentless; and the motive behind it is clear. More papers mean more prestige for a researcher’s department—and the prestige will translate, department heads hope, into more financial support from the university. Unfortunately, this pressure is likely to prompt disreputable, unethical, and even fraudulent publication practices. At the very least, the pressure encourages scientists to adjust their priorities, putting more important work off in order to-prepare for publication material that otherwise would not be submitted….-The Scientist, Jul 1989It is also the case that researchers, departments, and journals all benefit from lax publication standards that lead to highly publicized headlines about exciting new findings, and barely noticed blurbs when they don’t replicate.
(DIR) Post #AACFXTNviKm4UbFtfU by MaleGoddess@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-08-10T22:54:26.302869Z
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@freemo @djsumdogDon't be dense, faggot.I don't care for Trump, he's pozzed for the ZOG just like every other US politician.There's no evidence of Trump being racist though. Wikipedia dedicated an entire article to the topic though. Did they dedicate an article to Biden's racism? Biden has said more racist ass shit than Trump, and it's even been recorded.
(DIR) Post #AACFnbGkAXCzZtaHIm by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T22:57:16Z
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@MaleGoddess I never said Trump was or wasnt racist... Having an article talking about racist claims against him is not the same as saying he is racist.As for why Biden lacks a article about his racism.. well generally far fewer notable accusations of racism have been made against him to fill a page. That said, if you feel there are enough notable cases of him being called out on racism then go create the page for it.Now if you can show people have tried to create biden-racism pages before with well cited reliable sources and the community shot it down, then yo might have a case as well.@djsumdog
(DIR) Post #AACG0BUXJvhhOY2J5k by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-10T22:59:36.659639Z
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@freemo @MaleGoddess @djsumdog the media apparatus loves democrats, so i doubt people have been paid to neatly categorize them.
(DIR) Post #AACG7gIDCV8kwyqWwK by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-10T23:00:58.613850Z
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@freemo @MaleGoddess @djsumdog the ones i know of personally were his campaign trail "if you don't vote for biden you aren't black" and his prior comments about "i don't want my kids growing up in a racial jungle." his VP pick also appears to have been a diversity hire but i'm not aware of explicit ways to prove it, other than she had 0% approval rating by the DNC and there seems to be no other reason to pick such a widely hated person for the job.
(DIR) Post #AACGJRmYyZZrQDeYxU by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T23:03:00Z
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@icedquinn Yea there are some racist crap from biden... so go add it to an article. If you cite it it will likely stay.@djsumdog @MaleGoddess
(DIR) Post #AACGUpNTab0FmrLUsC by MaleGoddess@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-08-10T23:05:10.064697Z
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@freemo @djsumdoghttps://larrysanger.org/2021/06/wikipedia-is-more-one-sided-than-ever/Can we quit pretending that Wikipedia is an unbiased source of information?
(DIR) Post #AACGZRZPX4UBOh84BM by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-10T23:05:56.236475Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @MaleGoddess you're not familiar with the edit wars are you :blobcathuh: having text on wikipedia is only a small part about it being true, and a large amount about sitting there and personally fighting the edit wars in wp-meta.
(DIR) Post #AACGi85bKZuBaKKN3A by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T23:07:30Z
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@icedquinn I have done a lot of wikipedia editing in the past, I am familiar.Yes there can be edit wars. But for something like that, presuming you cite it well, it will likely be accepted without conflict. @djsumdog @MaleGoddess
(DIR) Post #AACGmzuj9ceNg3Yx1s by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-10T23:08:25.596071Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @MaleGoddess political or scientific editing
(DIR) Post #AACGvQ3zoaEB5xuiwq by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T23:09:52Z
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@icedquinn I've edited all manners of pages before. Again not claiming there wont be edit wars (and ultimately things going to vote). But something like that isnt likely to be rejected.@djsumdog @MaleGoddess
(DIR) Post #AACIi5kmDQ8OFThGfw by DokiDoe@kiwifarms.cc
2021-08-10T23:29:56.132495Z
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@icedquinn is it naivety, cogitative dissonance or lack of critical thinking? Wikipedia political scrubbing before elections, edit wars and foreign governments running intelligence operation to change Wikipedia entries aren't secret. It's an open and known issue.https://theintercept.com/2020/07/02/kamala-harris-wikipedia/
(DIR) Post #AACIznFtjHqY5fh6zA by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-10T23:33:09.799223Z
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@DokiDoe intelligence services and others are paid to win edit wars on wikipedia.fun fact the guy who invented the place publicly stated he no longer believes in it.
(DIR) Post #AACJaM3Bq7h2QkBTPs by DokiDoe@kiwifarms.cc
2021-08-10T23:39:42.715895Z
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@icedquinn We could get into specific and circle jerk, it is interesting. It is just weird to hear someone "just edit the wiki" with the conviction that it is only about the merits of your sourcing and writing. Just surprising to see on that level of naivety on fedi. idk I expected more autism and retarded takes, not that.
(DIR) Post #AACJmfMjqrgvoKCMJk by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-10T23:41:59.967259Z
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@DokiDoe i read it to mean someone who has edited things which were not the subject of intense political agendas.i lost faith in wikipedia because i was in parapsych at the time. everything a parapsych does that is bad gets wiki'd. literal crimes skeptics do are scrubbed.i try not to use wikipedia if i can get around it, except for math, which i still hate to use it for but i can't necessarily get around it.
(DIR) Post #AACJvhyLWuW4V86IgS by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-10T23:43:37.328881Z
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@DokiDoe ex when james randi was found to be aiding and abetting an illegal and dealing with stolen identities they were trying to hamsterwheel how this wasn't relevant to his character because it was just distracting from the mission or whatever.it may be up there nowadays. i dunno. i prefer books written by field practitioners.
(DIR) Post #AACKU2DUlh3R8LYRjk by DokiDoki@freespeechextremist.com
2021-08-10T23:49:51.052700Z
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@icedquinn @DokiDoe oh no, I don't need more books. :cry: My list isn't shrinking. The worst part is James Randi related stuff does interest me. Has anyone claimed their prize for proving magic exists yet?
(DIR) Post #AACKfm0CsWzQJww760 by apropos@freespeechextremist.com
2021-08-10T23:51:58.338190Z
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@icedquinn @DokiDoe >except for mathhttps://mathworld.wolfram.com/ doesn't do it for you?
(DIR) Post #AACKjMoCUQt9LI2AqG by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-10T23:52:35.421557Z
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@apropos @DokiDoe i don't like to read proof barf. i just want to know how to use the math.wolfram and wikipedia are shit at this
(DIR) Post #AACKpLwWcazOOXmYpE by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-10T23:53:40.691038Z
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@apropos @DokiDoe ex. if you look up the page for the simplex algorithm it's the life history of how the guy invented it while bored in the army and then show you pages of proofs why he's a genius but you ultimately have to go to youtube for the 5 minute explanation "oh yeah, here's how it solves a set of linear formulas and how to fucking do it"
(DIR) Post #AACL2ELcAjDSbReriq by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-10T23:55:55Z
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@Eris Uh oh, we got the flat earther joining the conversation :) lol.. or do you agree that the earth being round is a settled fact?@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AACLGkKg39ELrA8pDE by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-08-10T23:58:37.337949Z
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@Eris @freemo @djsumdog @natsock whatever the science community has gotten bored debating, tbh.
(DIR) Post #AACLQkRAW0of4pwlPM by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T00:00:14Z
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@Eris It is things like "the earth is round"... something that has such an overwhelming amount of evidence proving it to be the case that you can pretty much not bother to put any energy into the topic unless someone has extraordinary evidence.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AACLSCBgpFuXQtOfmC by polarisera@spinster.xyz
2021-08-11T00:00:42.541595Z
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@EmmyNoether @alex @anonymoose @djsumdog The world needs to be wiser, wiki ought to have "blocks" for editors, too. If you create an account, if you don't like an editor's gatekeeping, just block him, and your personal wiki will assemble itself for you, without your gatekeeper.
(DIR) Post #AACLXdTOo1JfVPH4fQ by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T00:01:35Z
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@Eris Only if your into nonsense conspiracy theories or something. Which is fine if thats your thing, just dont bother the rest of us humans with it.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AACLkzWu6y6Rg3HZ5M by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T00:04:06.934626Z
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@icedquinn @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock this is when they get caught in some scientific fraud and turn to gaslighting
(DIR) Post #AACNt17QHrhMpYJns0 by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-11T00:27:58.473822Z
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@freemoCan someone be a dissident to a scientific institution without being as divergent as a flat-earther?@Eris @djsumdog
(DIR) Post #AACNy2oPQ1sFWvp1Y8 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T00:28:47Z
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@natsock Every idea that the scientific community adopts started out a fringe idea. Happens all the time.@djsumdog @Eris
(DIR) Post #AACPaBwE2KPCnCERG4 by anonymoose@fedi.club
2021-08-11T00:46:58.926226Z
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@polarisera @djsumdog @alex @EmmyNoether I've often thought about the artificially imposed scarcity of only having one page per topic. There's no reason it has to be that way, there could be a heading flag like there are for disambiguation that lets you browse the different versions, and if you have an account, based on the versions of articles you select as your 'main' it can dynamically surface versions of other articles you probably want to see.
(DIR) Post #AACRN6vzWrPZPw0rA0 by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-11T01:07:01.772978Z
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@freemoPerhaps a generation ago that was still true, but now it is an institution whose perceived authority is leveraged to bolster liberal narratives, and everything which cannot serve that purpose is ostracized. Because knowledge generation has always been such a gatekept process, it's apparently been pretty easy to recast the priestly class.Obviously, some fields are less politically useful than others and are relatively untouched by this, but honestly just give it time.@djsumdog @Eris
(DIR) Post #AACRWyaBR3bgPWW58S by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T01:08:48.512127Z
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@freemo @natsock @djsumdog @ErisIt's a settled fact that niggers have a lower IQ on average than Whites by a full standard deviation. Do you accept this settled fact, or are you a Creationist who denies evolution?
(DIR) Post #AACRnsWBEj6kWahgOW by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-11T01:11:52.005152Z
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@DK_DharmarajThis is a great example of gatekeeping. Anything that directly butts heads with the political motives of the community will be discarded as "bad science" and there no process through that.@freemo @Eris @djsumdog
(DIR) Post #AACRumYRo5EQ3Z3XLk by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T01:13:00Z
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@natsock Do you have an example of after him being labeled a racist journals refusing to take his publicans or peer-review submissions?@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj
(DIR) Post #AACS3NxMdCrUNBoSga by parker@leafposter.club
2021-08-11T01:14:39.936214Z
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@freemo @natsock @djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj His wikipedia article references a number of articles saying as much. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watson#Comments_on_race
(DIR) Post #AACSqpeESpK0RiRTX6 by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-11T01:23:36.212623Z
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@freemoLet's stop with that. The AAPA is not going to all smack their foreheads and concede to racism. Their constituents are not interested in research that contravenes their values, which they are allowed to keep because they are entirely in tune with the political zeitgeist.https://physanth.org/about/position-statements/aapa-statement-race-and-racism-2019/@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj
(DIR) Post #AACT033pxq56eToUDY by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T01:25:09Z
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@natsock So no then, thanks.@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj
(DIR) Post #AACT738S5NeEuTJIfI by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T01:26:31.713265Z
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@freemo @natsock @djsumdog @ErisWhy are you a Creationist? Why do you deny evolution?
(DIR) Post #AACT9Ysv0runxTF66y by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T01:26:56Z
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@Eris ditto@djsumdog @natsock @DK_Dharmaraj
(DIR) Post #AACTAr078xCoQxDyQy by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-11T01:27:13.505040Z
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@freemoCNN: "James Watson re-endowed with honors after new study revealing niggers are subhuman"@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj
(DIR) Post #AACTCAuyZrooUlS1oG by 9zbVLJj7aZW1OP4Tiq.verita84@rage.lol
2021-08-11T01:27:24.901436Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @Eris @natsock @freemo Because it's retarded and still a THEORY just like gravity.
(DIR) Post #AACTHPTZsW0n5u8Ej2 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T01:28:17Z
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@verita84 I was wondering when the dude who had no clue what the word theory meant was going to wonder in.@djsumdog @Eris @natsock @DK_Dharmaraj
(DIR) Post #AACTJ6B6bAcnp1IT0i by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T01:28:37Z
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@verita84 I was wondering when the dude who had no clue what the word theory meant was going to wander in.@djsumdog @Eris @natsock @DK_Dharmaraj
(DIR) Post #AACTPG74ZcNQN8LdlA by 9zbVLJj7aZW1OP4Tiq.verita84@rage.lol
2021-08-11T01:29:47.994206Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @Eris @natsock @DK_Dharmaraj You wondered twice?
(DIR) Post #AACTQmalIryjOQxg5Q by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T01:30:05.309901Z
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@freemo @Eris @djsumdog @natsockWhy do you not accept the robustly established scientific consensus that niggers are dumb?
(DIR) Post #AACTz7gjNGlefT80TA by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T01:36:12Z
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@Eris I have no doubt you think that.@djsumdog @natsock @DK_Dharmaraj
(DIR) Post #AACU0RSNMS0YGh2hTk by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T01:36:32.583556Z
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@freemo @Eris @djsumdog @natsockSays the evolution denialist
(DIR) Post #AACU6vhro1GDp9NkR6 by The_Flaming_Eyeball@poa.st
2021-08-11T01:37:42.898972Z
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@Eris @freemo @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @natsock @verita84 The only such thing as a "settled fact" is mathematical truth, and even that is based upon explicitly stated premises which are sometimes proven to be incomplete, for instance in the case of non Euclidean geometry
(DIR) Post #AACU8wefFbyJLPqSIa by mr_comestar@poa.st
2021-08-11T01:38:04.628403Z
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@freemo @Eris @djsumdog @natsock another settled fact is "you are a homosexual who cannot grok what science actually is as a process"
(DIR) Post #AACUQpwOx46ljZfmPg by The_Flaming_Eyeball@poa.st
2021-08-11T01:41:18.762331Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock @verita84 Trust the soyence
(DIR) Post #AACUScaxXfuWvDUiu0 by 9zbVLJj7aZW1OP4Tiq.verita84@rage.lol
2021-08-11T01:41:31.086781Z
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@The_Flaming_Eyeball @djsumdog @Eris @natsock @DK_Dharmaraj @freemo Trust the science
(DIR) Post #AACV7AgYDO9sEZRgeG by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-11T01:48:58.209929Z
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@verita84I often wonder how this made it onto a compromised platform like BBC.“Peer review” isn’t what laymen imagine; it’s mostly just someone looking over a paper and saying looks good to me. It’s a joke.@The_Flaming_Eyeball @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo
(DIR) Post #AACVBYmIa4NE7AE7N2 by InceptionState@poa.st
2021-08-11T01:49:24.488331Z
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@freemo @natsock @djsumdog Anything related to politics on Wikipedia is a dumpster fire. Eg. the Jan 6 riot page still counts Brian Sicknick as a casualty, despite the official coroner's report stating that he died of a random stroke the following day, ruling it a death by natural causes. That's just outright denial of reality and misinformation, yet the Wikipedia jannies refuse to change it.
(DIR) Post #AACVMotsyjBLIp926S by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T01:51:42Z
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@InceptionState Arent you specifically linking the wikipedia article itself where it mentions the stroke? Looks like they presented that side of the argument, you literally highlighted it.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AACVVzOLLF2aRllNR2 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T01:53:22Z
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@Eris Just going to ignore the fact that that is the very reason a large number of journals obscure the identity of the peer reviewers?@djsumdog @natsock @DK_Dharmaraj @The_Flaming_Eyeball @verita84
(DIR) Post #AACVedcNfGkdWWS9jM by parker@leafposter.club
2021-08-11T01:55:00.583894Z
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@Eris @natsock @DK_Dharmaraj @The_Flaming_Eyeball @djsumdog @freemo @verita84 A lot of it is the only people qualified to review your paper are your competitors regarding a certain field or theory. So there's incentive to try and bring others down.
(DIR) Post #AACW9l0sDhWNR5kSDg by InceptionState@poa.st
2021-08-11T01:58:10.744742Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock He is specifically listed under the casualties section, and the sidebar includes him as one of the five deaths caused by the event, under "casualties and criminal charges". Hedging a little by noting that he did indeed die of a random stroke the day after the event, several thousand words into the article, does not correct that.Seriously though, it's hardly an isolated example. Wikipedia is fine for stuff distant from politics, but the closer a topic is to a politically charged subject, the less I trust it.
(DIR) Post #AACW9lSWYtdgoqgXJo by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T02:00:29Z
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@InceptionState So they told the truth you just dont like the title headers and think they need to sprinkle the world "allegedly" everywhere?@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AACWGqDpFfjBcOBUrA by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T02:01:50Z
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@Eris Lawl, worst save ever@djsumdog @natsock @DK_Dharmaraj @The_Flaming_Eyeball @verita84
(DIR) Post #AACWqlZ62kzFbGGQhE by InceptionState@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:05:34.985350Z
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@freemo @djsumdog @natsock No, it's incorrect. Someone who dies the day after a riot due to an unrelated stroke is not a casualty... Including them as a casualty in multiple places in the article is clearly erroneous.
(DIR) Post #AACWqm8BwH3lM6gSOm by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T02:08:19Z
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@InceptionState The fact that the stroke is unrelated is your opinion. They cited source that claim events from the day contributed to the stroke as well. Are you suggesting they have to eliminate that side all together? At best you have an argument they should have said "alleged", otherwise both the stroke and how the preceeding days events were claimed to contribute to it are both covered, just as both sides should be.@djsumdog @natsock
(DIR) Post #AACXEZFzSMiWNQg0ps by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-11T02:12:42.777954Z
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@freemoA medical examiner opining that way clearly should not be considered evidence of a casualty. The fact that remains in the article is an appeal to authority in order to bolster a favored narrative.@InceptionState @djsumdog
(DIR) Post #AACXJxw388okMavJlQ by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T02:13:36Z
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@Eris Huh, a blow to the head can cause delayed strokes all the time.@djsumdog @natsock @InceptionState
(DIR) Post #AACXcvpJC8BTKEoXWi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:16:26.402559Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @freemo @Eris @djsumdog @natsock its a settled fact that IQ is not construct valid. do you accept this settled fact, or are you an ideologue?seanamcclure.medium.com/intelligence-complexity-and-the-failed-science-of-iq-4fb17ce3f12
(DIR) Post #AACXdgsSGFcxFbeDSK by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T02:17:09Z
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@Eris taking a blow to the head and then having a stroke 24 hours later is not magick and perfectly reasonable to connect the two@djsumdog @natsock @InceptionState
(DIR) Post #AACXo4wHefLMlyOMpk by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T02:19:01Z
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@Eris Maybe you are talking about someone else and I got the names mixed up. Thought you were talking about the cop who got hit int he head with a fire extinguisher then died of a stroke the next day.@djsumdog @natsock @InceptionState
(DIR) Post #AACXriodqnW3JiYSIa by InceptionState@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:19:39.456518Z
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@freemo @Eris @djsumdog @natsock Snopes has fact checked you false, DEBOONKED!!1!snopes.com/fact-check/brian-sicknick-fire-extinguisher/
(DIR) Post #AACY7rspuAeE4bDRJI by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T02:22:38Z
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@Eris Thi sisnt ab out what side is correct. Wikipedia just needs to provide the citations and arguments, not dictate a conclusion.@djsumdog @natsock @InceptionState
(DIR) Post #AACYCRra4iOKowoRma by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:22:54.464322Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock you are dismissing an article before having read it. dont be a dumb faggot and learn to read
(DIR) Post #AACYHpanHHQ7rbWkzI by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-08-11T02:24:28.668542Z
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@freemo Oh My God. Are you still arguing over fucking wikipedia?!?! SHUT THE FUCK UP! I leave for five hours and come back to an 90+ status long thread where you keep arguing?! Freemo, you're an insufferable asshole. You have never once admitted to anyone in your (fedi)life you were wrong. You're the Jebus fucking Christ of Science. You love being right. We get it. @Eris @natsock @InceptionState
(DIR) Post #AACYJtTRojbETt4hJA by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:24:31.479379Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock yeah that makes you a dumb illiterate fagtandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10888691.2014.983635
(DIR) Post #AACYKFWNqV1IrMcLwG by InceptionState@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:24:38.937648Z
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@Eris @freemo @djsumdog @natsock Yeah, counting someone as a casualty is a conclusion. It's stating that someone died as a result of the actions of another party. That was contradicted by the medical examiner, as a natural causes ruling means that the death was 100% caused by a medical condition:> But the determination of a natural cause of death means the medical examiner found that a medical condition alone caused his death — it was not brought on by an injury. The determination is likely to significantly inhibit the ability of federal prosecutors to bring homicide charges in connection with Sicknick’s death.
(DIR) Post #AACYQHYRCQt4u2SH44 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:25:16.901496Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock yes it does. read Richardson and Norgate's arguments and get back to me.
(DIR) Post #AACYQYBfMLm0UKvpQm by InceptionState@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:25:55.516418Z
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@djsumdog @freemo @Eris @natsock I'm about done, he decided to die on the hill of "Wikipedia is never politically biased ever" which is just :PikachuFacePalm:
(DIR) Post #AACYXoW72nVjA3xVmC by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:27:23.057621Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsockThis is the psychometric equivalent of epicycles posited to save geocentrism. You're a midwit faggot
(DIR) Post #AACYY1lpleoKGaPkaO by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T02:27:20Z
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@djsumdog Oh no a thread discussing the merits of wikipedia went on in your absence. How ever shall you cope, poor thing.@Eris @natsock @InceptionState
(DIR) Post #AACYcH2aw1UImjHLiy by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-08-11T02:28:12.220366Z
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@freemo @Eris @natsock @InceptionState Cope. I went out and hung out with friends in real life and had some beers and was a real human being instead of being an insurable Internet troll. Stop confessing through projection.
(DIR) Post #AACYdRnYQNpeRDnruq by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-08-11T02:28:24.882476Z
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@freemo @Eris @natsock @InceptionState Cope? I went out and hung out with friends in real life and had some beers and was a real human being instead of being an insurable Internet troll. Stop confessing through projection.
(DIR) Post #AACYeZlWHvnVRBOESm by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:28:08.352045Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock why do you not respond to Sean's arguments?
(DIR) Post #AACYkDi5Cd0olsTQhM by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:28:51.317837Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock read here fag tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10888691.2014.983635
(DIR) Post #AACYkhPKmtqAsPvsdk by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T02:29:39Z
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@djsumdog And yet are now completely triggered because while you were out drinking someone was here working, stuck behind a computer, and chatting about wikipedia while you were gone.. how awful, no wonder your so triggered.@Eris @natsock @InceptionState
(DIR) Post #AACYtQPjL4bsmJHKro by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:31:17.658548Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsockBecause they're retarded. "Socio-economic status" isn't "construct valid" either but you retarded niggers use it all the time. "Alexa, what is a heuristic?"
(DIR) Post #AACYxwkf3BiwEJE0Mi by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-08-11T02:32:06.344321Z
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@freemo @Eris @natsock @InceptionState I'm not triggered. I don't have PTSD. I just kinda fell sad for you .. because .. this is your life. You can't walk away it seems. You are ...
(DIR) Post #AACZ5SXJH3vupqYvFg by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T02:33:23Z
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@djsumdog I spend half of every year int he carribean SCUBA diving and island hoping.. I think im good.@Eris @natsock @InceptionState
(DIR) Post #AACZ68eWgcf3SOGHKa by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:32:59.473177Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock when did i or Sean mention SES?why do you not respond to Sean's arguments?
(DIR) Post #AACZ7gXmAKIqrFqF8a by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:33:51.734623Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsockNow I get it, you're literally too retarded to understand analogies
(DIR) Post #AACZ8HOr8S9XAIx8s4 by InceptionState@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:33:17.641721Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock > Chemist posts a 16k word rant attempting to dismiss an entire field of science he knows little about.Wow, very cool. Into the trash it goes.
(DIR) Post #AACZ977cplGdZvI7EW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:33:13.918956Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock where did i make this argument?
(DIR) Post #AACZBvaMBPdafQ4WAq by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:33:43.298737Z
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@InceptionState @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock what specifically about the article do you disagree with? could you maybe quote him?
(DIR) Post #AACZIuBrlgKQMqwZcG by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:35:07.812732Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo @natsock why do you not respond to the basic outline of my arguments as shown here?poa.st/notice/AACYzrYOPcRONoW6wS
(DIR) Post #AACZJtK8TYBjyAHXTU by travis@pleroma.xmanifesto.club
2021-08-11T02:36:05.028461Z
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@djsumdog @freemo @Eris @InceptionState @natsock from what I've gathered from my time on the fedi is freemo isn't worth interacting with, he always speaks in bad faith and is drowning in his ego.
(DIR) Post #AACZKdpbYsh2D5MJua by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:32:28.364241Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock IQ is not a construct valid test. i had already argued that. that should be obvious. it has numerous conceptual and methodological problems (there is no theory for IQ test construction nor any theory for why individuals differ in intelligence)for this reason, psychologists have historically tried to reify IQ thru correlational studies. they believe this provides it predictive validity. for starters theres an issue here as correlations arent the same as predicting unforeseen observations (IQ cannot do that as it has no explanatory theories) but mostly the correlations are either self-fulfilling (no shit it correlates with school achievement, the SAT and IQ are different versions of the same test) or the correlations are very low such as in the IQ/job performance relationship (see richardson and norgate)
(DIR) Post #AACZKePlORcI1EHCGu by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:36:11.271474Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsockIf your theory were correct then literal retards would have the exact same intelligence as physiologically normal human beings. The fact that they don't is all the refutation this bullshit needs. In reality it's just special pleading and semantic hair splitting over the fact that, being a mental quality, it's inherently trickier to measure intelligence than it is a physical quality like height
(DIR) Post #AACZLc9tGaZRJNJMrQ by PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
2021-08-11T02:36:24.263246Z
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@djsumdog @freemo @Eris @InceptionState @natsock I agree. Cope.
(DIR) Post #AACZN1bCAJ6cVFku00 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:36:14.512930Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo @natsock is IQ construct valid? yes or no?
(DIR) Post #AACZRH1AmP9hTyvrVI by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2021-08-11T02:37:25.363049Z
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@freemo @djsumdog i like wikipedia for little things like looking at basic info
(DIR) Post #AACZSkqjLtT2IEkp04 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:35:18.030382Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock see : poa.st/notice/AACYzrYOPcRONoW6wSalso learn to read
(DIR) Post #AACZSlVqt0MQLlzf60 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:37:40.138653Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsockDoes "Socio-economic status" have predictive validity? Yes or no
(DIR) Post #AACZW2apq1xwC0t0Xw by InceptionState@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:38:02.154263Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock I'm about 6,000 words in and he has yet to even talk about IQ... This is literal trash. Just re-explaining high school science concepts with fucking gifs.
(DIR) Post #AACZWV7llAwmgGVhlg by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:37:31.141237Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock this is hardly a defense. no shit retards arent as smart, we dont need a pretentious construct by pencil-pushing academics to tell us that.what scientific validity does the test have?
(DIR) Post #AACZWVl7OsQGeIv86K by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:38:19.693149Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsockOk so now you've acknowledged the principle, you're just splitting hairs, exactly like I said
(DIR) Post #AACZZXmMLX7bmawm8W by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:37:50.784785Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo @natsock learn to use a search engineen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Construct_validity
(DIR) Post #AACZcUJzeqAPvc5CpU by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:39:08.517353Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo @natsock this is not a scientific argument
(DIR) Post #AACZpuNe5BRqVsBs24 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-08-11T02:41:45Z
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@travis He's right, you absolutely should listen to him and interact with me less.@djsumdog @Eris @natsock @InceptionState
(DIR) Post #AACZrlKmgeUT2Iji2S by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:38:50.066888Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock socio-economic status is not a psychological test. the fuck are you talking about?IQ does not have predictive validity because its correlation with job performance is lower than every other predictor we have at 0.6
(DIR) Post #AACZrlrki4rUgYA2QS by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:39:29.052779Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock 0.06*
(DIR) Post #AACZrmKSzJpY7bayBM by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:42:11.422656Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsockIQ is not a measure of "job performance"When yoy stated that retards are "not as smart" as normal people, what did you mean?
(DIR) Post #AACZrsxKLkTqfrp5aS by mr_comestar@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:42:13.352610Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock >correlation“Do you have a source on that?Source?A source. I need a source.Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.No, you can’t make inferences and observations from the sources you’ve gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you’ve gathered.You can’t make normative statements from empirical evidence.Do you have a degree in that field?A college degree? In that field?Then your arguments are invalid.No, it doesn’t matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.Correlation does not equal causation.CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.You still haven’t provided me a valid source yet.Nope, still haven’t.I just looked through all 308 pages of your poast history, figures I’m debating a chud.”
(DIR) Post #AACZwebF9Yh3b5ldGC by Bangcubed@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:43:04.878643Z
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@ErisJust because a metric doesn't meet an arbitrary level of precision doesn't mean it's worthless.>that gal is short>"what's short? Define short? If she were taller would she still be short? Huh? How much taller?">she short, niggaIQ is a valid metric in the same way that race realism is a valid metric, it's both a useful heuristic and incredibly upsetting to shitlibs. @racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock
(DIR) Post #AACZyFRldqwCAN5xjc by mr_comestar@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:43:22.438295Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock >correlation"Do you have a source on that?Source?A source. I need a source.Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.Do you have a degree in that field?A college degree? In that field?Then your arguments are invalid.No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.Correlation does not equal causation.CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.Nope, still haven't.I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a chud."
(DIR) Post #AACa3APrlzdu0nYFcG by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:40:00.938570Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo @natsock so youre dumb and are clearly uneducated. you didnt even know what construct validity is. you cant even use a search engine
(DIR) Post #AACa75epPKzsPZQ8Aq by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:44:22.904116Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock >IQ is not a measure of "job performance"for starters, its very common for psychologists to point to job performance as proof of its predictive validity, as its one of its highest (alleged) independent correlates. so this dismissal is hilariousbut more importantly, its not a measure of jack shit because it isnt construct valid
(DIR) Post #AACa76DvIr4OAPq9sO by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:44:57.597482Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock what does it mean for one person to be "not as smart as" another person?
(DIR) Post #AACaB1Ao1Pxjf7FbFo by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:45:07.709129Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo @natsock its a term in psychology that refers to the ability for a test to measure what it purports to measureits not my fault you dont know anything about psychology
(DIR) Post #AACaDNsSZzdGemnWZE by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:45:25.101524Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock nothing physiologically
(DIR) Post #AACaDOQUXSr2MKihc0 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:46:06.408603Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock so if it doesn't mean anything, why did you say it?
(DIR) Post #AACaETnA4hnZI2qFkW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:45:40.538800Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock maybe if it were construct valid you would be right
(DIR) Post #AACaIHTToSHYFLRrpw by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:45:55.766762Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo @natsock its not my fault you cant read
(DIR) Post #AACaLoWvMyABdRkD6u by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:47:10.941998Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock stupid semantics game. there are some obvious things we know that we dont need science for. that doesnt make a made-up construct by a bunch of pencil pushing academics magically valid
(DIR) Post #AACaNOEC8BPYdjjdWS by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:47:29.419609Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock psychologists do. IQ researchers do.
(DIR) Post #AACaNsFeVKP1kweDxY by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:47:59.834135Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock so your position here is that human beings obviously differ in their intelligence, but there's no way whatsoever we could ever measure this difference, and it's completely pointless to even try
(DIR) Post #AACb0GJrT7vLPCvBwm by stevetim@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:54:48.062924Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock "why even bother lol" is often just a more cowardly way of saying "this makes me feel bad please stop"
(DIR) Post #AACbT38vXMnEwCXADw by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T02:59:47.511096Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock no. thats not what i said. i very clearly said an attempt to do so (IQ) has methodological and conceptual problems, as well as a lack of predictive validity
(DIR) Post #AACba5kaF1yj3FVOS0 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:01:25.159450Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock and yet retards score lower on IQ tests than rocket scientists. Why is that?
(DIR) Post #AACblhB1QnLOJSP9yy by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:03:04.104237Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock not for any physiological reason, thats for sure!
(DIR) Post #AACbrRVCcb11R8aIrY by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:04:31.999346Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock so retards, who in many cases have brain damage or other congenital defects, do not score lower on IQ tests than rocket scientists "for any physiological reason"and we're supposed to take you seriously
(DIR) Post #AACc2Ewzd3klh3jRYm by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:06:05.085880Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock an IQ test score is meaningless on its own. it tells someone nothing of brain structure or function. the test was not designed with that in mind (it predates MRI by a century) and there is no neurophysiological basis for which to accept/reject test items and it is therefore not construct valid
(DIR) Post #AACc4OMRc08dSVf9CC by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:06:52.869160Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock >there is no neurophysiological basis for which to accept/reject test itemsOK, so why do retards score lower than rocket scientists?
(DIR) Post #AACcUnz0yKfSSBIZ5U by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:11:39.953697Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Retards aren't retards due to any physiological reason, DK. Intelligence has nothing to do with physiology. The truth of the matter is that one's intelligence is immaterial. Your physiology (and physiognomy) are both just reflections of your soul. Dumb people are dumb because they're bad people and God is punishing them.
(DIR) Post #AACcWDRjmmKxiSPER6 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:10:50.221313Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock the test was designed to scope out those with learning disabilities. no shit it does that. its not good for much else
(DIR) Post #AACcWDzlkFYjQ0KPTs by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:11:55.386754Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock why do physiologically "normal" (i.e. without congenital brain defects etc.) garbage collectors score lower than rocket scientists?
(DIR) Post #AACcbqkx3m4n5750L2 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:10:05.849469Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock IQ isnt a test thats designed around any neurophysiological theory of intelligence or individual intelligence differences. imagine two normal people without any brain damage or disabilities with a 20 IQ gap between them. is that physiological?if all your test is good for is telling us "people with mental disabilities are dumb" then its not very useful
(DIR) Post #AACcbrHD7psehAAlcW by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:12:55.689763Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock yes of course it's physiological because intelligence is obviously related to (though not reducible to) brain function
(DIR) Post #AACceb8ZaTyxVbRGl6 by antifag@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:13:26.378008Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock you’re trying to invalidate an objective test that predates your subjective soft science lol found the retard
(DIR) Post #AACcflm5WWN6n0TqLY by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:12:38.718020Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock yeah. not for any physiological reasons
(DIR) Post #AACcfmGZhAl4JYkBrk by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:13:38.653710Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock this is the definition of a circular argument. you have literally assumed your conclusion: it's not physiological, therefore it cannot be physiologicalin any case the question is WHYWHAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE DIFFERENCE
(DIR) Post #AACciB7sErKbzioqUS by skylar@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:14:05.177752Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock lmao this nigger tested negative for IQ
(DIR) Post #AACcjXq5HGbgjA9L3w by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:13:50.967262Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock theres no theory for how brain function relates to intelligence, only correlations. the construction of the IQ test and g theory predates MRI by a century. no changes to the test since then
(DIR) Post #AACcjYHjcSj06v5QA4 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:14:19.260904Z
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@racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock there's no theory for why antipsychotics work, they just do. should they stop being prescribed?
(DIR) Post #AACckPG8f7wKPJkOX2 by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:14:27.250267Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock I'm pretty sure they did a study where they did MRI brain scans with IQ tests and the small the persons's brain was the lower their IQ test scores were.
(DIR) Post #AACcmNSmJMXZPqbDAe by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:14:48.870837Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock "that's just a correlation" lmao
(DIR) Post #AACcnzr13nLYlyhypk by JSDorn@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:15:07.484550Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock why are you retarded?
(DIR) Post #AACcslYpd6g9tITdaK by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:15:06.927400Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock they found a correlation. a correlation cannot make a theory it can only inspire further investigation tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
(DIR) Post #AACcsm7ZXwT5d2jNjc by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:15:59.764631Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Pretty sure smaller brain corrolates with lower IQ scores because smaller brains a dumber than bigger brains.
(DIR) Post #AACcugwLmRCQ8hObGS by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:14:29.906742Z
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@antifag @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock >objective testexcept its not construct valid, so i wouldnt say so
(DIR) Post #AACcuhYdU5pA3RJAwK by antifag@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:16:20.699054Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock stfu you nihilistic autistic fag. You’re a literal retard.
(DIR) Post #AACcxViDyuskBZ8I2i by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:16:49.564919Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Can you explain why Koko the Gorrilla scoresdhigher on IQ tests than the average nigger in Africa?
(DIR) Post #AACcyGDL5Z6SPO2mvY by adalberht@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:16:53.711102Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock "there are some obvious things we know that we dont need science for. "Yeah, like blacks being retarded lol
(DIR) Post #AACdDbA1UaWBiUo4I4 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:18:28.645965Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock right, just like the divorce rates in maine and consumption of margarine tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
(DIR) Post #AACdDbd5kVlpAePHbE by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:19:45.795081Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Imagine having to cope this hard to find a way that Somalians aren't more retarded than a literal fucking monkey.
(DIR) Post #AACdGugNMpCl8CWIgC by Bro-Drillard@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:20:21.811629Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock No need to make a thread about how IQ tests are bad just because your low score doesn’t match your galaxy brain.
(DIR) Post #AACdKoRsUDOqxJb8gC by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:20:11.763657Z
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@JSDorn @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock why no response to Sean's arguments? seanamcclure.medium.com/intelligence-complexity-and-the-failed-science-of-iq-4fb17ce3f12why no response to Richardson and Norgate?? tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10888691.2014.983635response to Uttal? cognet.mit.edu/book/reliability-cognitive-neuroscience
(DIR) Post #AACdKotAqjEaJyMwE4 by JSDorn@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:21:03.406169Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock midwit bell curve fag. Grugs know niggers are retarded. I don't need studies
(DIR) Post #AACdNOLM09FarPmBiy by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:20:24.456871Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock imagine not being able to read
(DIR) Post #AACdNOo4HODeITD7Ts by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:21:31.802734Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock You can give me literally any intelligence test you can think of and I'll easily beat any monkey on the planet. It shouldn't even be close. I don't care what your explanation is. Niggers are obviously fucking dumb.
(DIR) Post #AACdOFnXG6HieAMwVc by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:21:26.584008Z
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@JSDorn @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock doesnt acknowledge a single one of my arguments
(DIR) Post #AACdOGJ5MnWQE188ga by JSDorn@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:21:41.386577Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock yes
(DIR) Post #AACdZ6kzDJ89n9LuTI by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:21:47.615158Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock not a response to any of my arguments
(DIR) Post #AACdZ7GXK0MrN076eG by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:23:38.598405Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Why would I listen to any argument trying to say that niggers are as smart as humans? I don't need a nerd in a labcoat to tell me something so obviously absurd.
(DIR) Post #AACddoDlYa3hkg3VEO by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:24:12.584335Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock not a response to any of my arguments
(DIR) Post #AACddohXlrsVF1zHe4 by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:24:29.807116Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Are niggers as smart as humans, yes or no?
(DIR) Post #AACdkrUBofqzuA6I08 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:25:06.895151Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock irrelevant. i made no mention of race. is IQ a construct valid test - yes or no?
(DIR) Post #AACdkrv8CVP9Fihnzk by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:25:46.549188Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock I didn't say anything about race either, they are obviously a subspecies or some kind of homosapian hybrid with some other lower primate.
(DIR) Post #AACdliXCaCksQquwYS by JSDorn@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:25:55.864874Z
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@racerealist @LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock are you Jewish?
(DIR) Post #AACdtyKpil5Bkl4IMK by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:27:25.259215Z
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@racerealist @LorgarAurelian1488 @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock hey moron, it literally doesn't matter if "IQ" is "construct valid" according to your gay definition when obviously your average auto mechanic is less intelligent than your average nuclear physicistyour position here is "we can't come up with a 100% perfect test, therefore there is nothing to be tested"it's R E T A R D E D and a complete non sequitur
(DIR) Post #AACdxlvpmHJSRZBf9s by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:26:10.593023Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock thats great man. irrelevant to the question of IQ test's validity and practical applicability though
(DIR) Post #AACdxmXlVFecLCvxHU by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:28:06.483559Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Is there any test conceived by man IQ, Math, Reading, SAT, ACT, GPA literally anything we use to figure out if somebody is smart or not that niggers don't score dead last at?
(DIR) Post #AACe4CkcyeQZMM0qaO by Victor_Emmanuel@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:14:23.196043Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock with people who deny evolution in humans you should just post Alt-hype articles or get them to rationally defend their assumption of equality. They always have a rationalization for anything else.
(DIR) Post #AACe4DJ0unvv506JBQ by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:16:49.298813Z
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@Victor_Emmanuel @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock >althyplmao he was BTFO'd years agonotpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/12/10/rebutting-ross-et-al-1986-on-testosterone/notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/10/15/maoa-race-and-crime-a-simple-relationship/
(DIR) Post #AACe4Dveb8qF0qBAPY by Victor_Emmanuel@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:28:53.318289Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock 1) I don’t recall Ryan ever claiming that Testosterone contributed to the Race gap in crime. He certainly didn’t bring it up in his “Political Consequences of low Testosterone” video2) Ryan has always been more of a fan of qualitative genetics than quantitative genetics, so if he ever did believe in this MOA gene it would be foundational. Besides ruling out one gene doesn’t blacks and whites are equally genetically violent.3) why is your name “race realist” when you deny HBD?
(DIR) Post #AACe5W0MsS9BMd03rk by merchantHelios@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:29:29.972324Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock africans are history's most prolific sellers of human resources
(DIR) Post #AACe67l6VeW4SI9PLk by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:28:34.474271Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Intelligence_Test_of_Cultural_Homogeneity
(DIR) Post #AACe68LyIa0UIdOqoa by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:29:36.809420Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Oh wow niggers beat the white kids on an ebonics test. Well guess we better let them marry our daughters n shit
(DIR) Post #AACeENyy4fpN5YZi2i by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:30:07.056703Z
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@merchantHelios @LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock i made no mention of africans. not relevant to the validity of IQ tests
(DIR) Post #AACeEOT6Gdvkb0fm0e by merchantHelios@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:31:06.072298Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock >i made no mention of africans.i did
(DIR) Post #AACeHTKscvqOYpIPDM by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:29:43.062344Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock except theres evidence that IQ is irrelevant to being a doctornotpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/10/04/doctors-iq-and-job-performance/
(DIR) Post #AACeHUEtGgeBMXV8W8 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:31:40.104825Z
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@racerealist @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock tHeRe'S eViDEnCefor someone who likes to pull "learn to read" you sure have a tough time at reading comprehension, I bet a lower score than you expected on the SAT Verbal is why you have such a bug up your ass about this topic
(DIR) Post #AACeIGMgL1OscbW2KG by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:26:45.790473Z
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@JSDorn @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock i dont have any jewish family members that i know of, no. and im christian
(DIR) Post #AACeIGuMJoL4J3Gvom by JSDorn@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:31:47.833134Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock thank you
(DIR) Post #AACeKGMzI5K7DSc21A by Nike@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-11T03:32:10.692201Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock
(DIR) Post #AACeRY1g2kqc0G7OYS by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:32:47.972747Z
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@Nike @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock never made any mention of gaps between groups or economics. irrelevant to my arguments about IQ's validity
(DIR) Post #AACeRYZ02rVDfbi0Ui by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:33:28.827924Z
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@racerealist @Nike @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock how about this, faggot, IQ is valid because mine is higher than yours and it really shows in this interaction
(DIR) Post #AACeUGchCgHWtijKa0 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:33:15.830872Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock why do you not read the article i link?
(DIR) Post #AACeUH7BNKfUQGzg6C by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:33:58.859579Z
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@racerealist @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock because it's completely irrelevant to the point at hand, and if you were actually as smart as you believe yourself to be, you would already have understood that
(DIR) Post #AACeXNIUqTnkSxlQOG by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:34:32.612983Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Do you think this person has a high enough IQ to get through medschool?
(DIR) Post #AACeZvV2eXiX7cqfse by Nike@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-11T03:35:00.438335Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj Shut up, Nigger. I wasnt talking to you.
(DIR) Post #AACea1gxd8ogKKTHI8 by PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
2021-08-11T03:35:02.045151Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @Nike @djsumdog @freemo @natsock IQ is not valid because I am in the top 98th percentile in Australia and I don't think Australia is that dumb.
(DIR) Post #AACegRxis2i1XZNHfs by racism_man@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:36:07.911334Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock This guy's a fuckin retard with his dick shoved down his throat. He's basically doing a "nothing can really be proven to be true" take. Everyone knows niggers are stupid. I don't even know if he's arguing against that premise, but his argument style is essentially to be a faggot. I don't think you're gonna get anywhere with this guy
(DIR) Post #AACehgR6XhMyihhp1U by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:36:24.435878Z
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@PonyPanda @Eris @Nike @djsumdog @freemo @natsock @racerealist high IQ people typically have a very hard time understanding what life is like for lower IQ people, or what "average intelligence" really means
(DIR) Post #AACeikyj8jTr65wbaq by merchantHelios@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:36:35.944344Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock im just going to say this entire thread is extremely entertaining
(DIR) Post #AACejYSBC19eXd6Jns by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:35:36.385181Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock "As I’ve shown on the Indian study, 100 IQ med school students had similar educational attainment to those with higher IQs (80 percent of the sample had around an average 100 IQ and 10 percent were above average). Veena et al (2015) conclude that: “IQ can`t be made the basis for medical entrance; instead giving weight-age to secondary school results and limiting the number of attempts may shorten the time duration for entry and completion of MBBS degree.”in this sample of doctors 80% had only average IQs. and you feel this is irrelevant?
(DIR) Post #AACejYy5HOfw8a1nX6 by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:36:44.573853Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Oh that's because it's an Indian study where people just buy fake scam degrees because its fucking India. yeah I bet in India you could have 70 IQ and become a doctor.
(DIR) Post #AACenPn1LYpqpTgpyC by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:36:33.752101Z
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@racism_man @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock doesnt acknowledge a single one of my arguments
(DIR) Post #AACenQJdOIvIScwsnw by racism_man@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:37:26.416749Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock I don't care about your arguments because you're arguing against people I like and doing it gayly.
(DIR) Post #AACet3vHYlPKkSFNRI by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:38:27.360823Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock How high of an IQ does a pajeet really need to write prescriptions for Oxycontin at a pill farm anyways?
(DIR) Post #AACf1tPg0Jjol7fsG0 by merchantHelios@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:40:03.332217Z
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@PonyPanda @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @Nike @djsumdog @freemo @natsock @racerealist dud your iq is so high it integer overflowerd into mega stupid :pepeEZ: :akkoFingerGuns:
(DIR) Post #AACf2HnxJhQ4PNDbQu by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:38:30.093029Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock "There is evidence that IQ is irrelevant to becoming a doctor and that it did not predict dropping out of the program, career outcome, amount of research publications published, or stress, burnout and satisfaction with taking a career in medicine (McManus et al, 2003). Diplomas, higher academic degrees, and research publications were significantly correlated with personality.McManus et al (2003) write: Intelligence did not independently predict dropping off the register, career outcome, or other measures. … Intelligence does not predict careers, thus rejecting the ability argument. A levels predict because they assess achievement, and the structural model shows how past achievements predict future achievement."
(DIR) Post #AACf2IN3DDUaADdd8S by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:40:07.022280Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Yeah no shit intelligence doesn't predict career outcome in some backwards country with a Caste system and shit loads of fake colleges pumping out H1B's
(DIR) Post #AACf57gxNAOfudIUxU by Nike@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-11T03:40:38.939896Z
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@merchantHelios hate it when that happens. Gandhi moment.
(DIR) Post #AACf5DOOB76ramekqm by stevetim@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:40:27.958210Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock @racerealist Same goes for ugly people
(DIR) Post #AACf5shyZC8fjP8TZY by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:32:22.804713Z
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@Victor_Emmanuel @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock > I don’t recall Ryan ever claiming that Testosterone contributed to the Race gap in crime. except he does right here thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/testosterone-race-and-crime/ thats what RR is replying to in the article i linked>Besides ruling out one gene doesn’t blacks and whites are equally genetically violent.irrelevant. point is he argued MAOA gene contributes to the gap and that was shown to be false by RR. he argued for it herethealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/maoa-race-and-crime/
(DIR) Post #AACf5tGMVLe1S3DwAa by Victor_Emmanuel@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:39:06.139691Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock it’s late I don’t feel like going your articles and his article to figure out who’s right so I’ll just assume it’s you. Those were from 2015, Ryan is the kind of guy who will change what he believes on a dime if he is shown data on it. Assuming he still believes these things today, so what? Being wrong one something doesn’t mean they aren’t worth listening to. I disagree with everyone on TRS about something but I still listen in everyday.
(DIR) Post #AACf8LHhIB1owD19M0 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:40:30.124241Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock that study was done in the UK
(DIR) Post #AACf8Lk3ajiIMAHnYe by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:41:12.495398Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Have you been to the UK? it's basically India these days.
(DIR) Post #AACfB9aVEjSVWv9cp6 by merchantHelios@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:41:43.082485Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock not relevant at all but i thought this was funny
(DIR) Post #AACfGUktxlS2d1Z6UC by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:42:23.861399Z
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@merchantHelios @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock that is pretty funny. thanks for sharing
(DIR) Post #AACfH1J2wLmHaBmp9M by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:42:47.597597Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock This is the kind of doctors you get in the UK:independent.ie/irish-news/clueless-doctor-tried-to-take-blood-from-patient-with-scalpel-29837569.html
(DIR) Post #AACfMH1xu7olncImmm by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:43:27.341309Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock thats insane. guess my entire argument is now completely torpedoed. how could the writers of those long articles miss this!
(DIR) Post #AACfMHaLqHK7WGOFNo by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:43:44.236552Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Because they are libtards.
(DIR) Post #AACfQDHfmBMZKzWm92 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:44:22.940946Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock damn. ive completely changed my view. thank you
(DIR) Post #AACfR4OaJDNq3mAXmC by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:44:36.549182Z
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@racerealist @LorgarAurelian1488 @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock no midwit your "entire argument" (such as it is) is torpedoed because you already conceded that intelligence exists and is variable between peopleeverything else is just special pleading and nitpicking
(DIR) Post #AACfW3ylHivMDSTIZ6 by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:45:30.314970Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Racism and Stereotypes > Science Nerds
(DIR) Post #AACfY1gulJ8dhR3lgW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:45:20.250184Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock read my sources
(DIR) Post #AACfY2DsmjVfLgU64W by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:45:51.013393Z
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@racerealist @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock your sources are irrelevant because you conceded that intelligence is real and not everyone is equally smart
(DIR) Post #AACfi6GcbUTEmsZ5yS by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:45:53.892647Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock thats absolutely true my man
(DIR) Post #AACfi6nacuqGR7zQMS by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:47:40.891572Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock TBH measuring skull shapes with calipers is probably more reliable than an IQ test so you are probably right.
(DIR) Post #AACfwOqkJJoQTUHSHw by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:49:02.744106Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock 100% for certain
(DIR) Post #AACfwPO4JQT28ps4EC by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:50:16.030919Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock I think IQ test was pushed by Jews with their fake psychology racket so they could deconstruct the concept of IQ to do pillpull and say niggers are smart. Kind of hard to jew your way out of objective physical measurements of their brain sizes.
(DIR) Post #AACgCLmhTVDrbKzgn2 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:46:29.268771Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock damn really? guess we can ditch all that science stuff
(DIR) Post #AACgCMMrJ497PTuZ9M by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:53:09.046861Z
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@racerealist @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock in case you forgot (which you did, because you're a midwit), the overarching context for this discussion concerns the nature of scientific consensusthe initial argument advanced was that "settled facts" may be known unproblematicallysince the person advancing this point was, like yourself, a midwit of the "I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE" variety, I made a counterargument that this person did not in fact "fucking love science" because he was unable for political-ideological reasons to acknowledge the settled fact of median racial IQ differencesthis is the point where you entered the conversation with a bunch of retarded bullshit that has nothing to do with anythingthe funny thing about this, the truly funny thing about this, is that in the middle of your Gamma Wall of Text midwit spergery, you gave the whole game awaysee, the point of all those "studies" you keep citing is to obscure as much as possible the reality of intelligence and the fact that it differs between people. if you asked any of those "researchers" point blank the same question I asked you, whether retards are less intelligent than rocket scientists, they wouldn't say "obviously they are not as smart," they would instead throw up a massive gish-gallop or wall of text in order to avoid answering the questionyou don't know the shot and you don't even know that you don't know the shot.so in fact all of those "studies" you keep citing simply reinforce my initial overarching point: the concept of "settled fact" is inherently problematic, for many reasons, not the least of which is that one of the main purposes of "science" as currently practiced in Current Year + 6 is to confuse and obscure obvious truths, such as that intelligence is real and differs between both individual people and population groups as a wholeDK out
(DIR) Post #AACgD1bTzbCnIi4K8W by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:40:08.775428Z
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@Victor_Emmanuel @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock the issue is he blocked the writer of those articles i had linked and refused to respond or make any correctionsi dont trust him for that reason as that doesnt strike me as very honest
(DIR) Post #AACgD2862LIEvrKMyG by Victor_Emmanuel@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:53:07.029311Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock are you the writer of those articles?
(DIR) Post #AACgFcaJT6vuZhlAAK by InceptionState@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:53:23.897764Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @freemo @natsock So I skimmed most of it, read the bits that actually tried to address IQ, and the article really is pretty bad.The first ~40% or so is just re-explaining basic statistical concepts like correlation, dimensionality, etc. with some random other junk thrown in.Then we finally get to "What does IQ Measure?", which gets into the construct validity stuff, although interestingly he never refers it in those terms. This has some non-terrible bits. Yes, a lot of information is lost condensing IQ down to a single simplified number, and the concept of intelligence in general has a degree of subjectivity. The bit on reification reminds me of Gould's argument in The Mismeasure of Man, which is honestly a pretty dumb strawman. No expert in the field thinks that IQ literally is intelligence.Then there's "PART II: WHAT ARE WE PREDICTING?" where it all falls apart. This section reads like a section out of a Stats 101 textbook, where the author explains (and complains about) meta-analysis, sampling error, measurement error... The list goes on, while spending the vast majority of his time explaining these concepts rather than addressing why they particularly affect IQ studies. I suppose the point of this is an attempt to dismiss that there are decades of studies contradicting his narrative that IQ doesn't predict real-world outcomes? Then he hits the same basic criticisms you can find in the Wikipedia article on IQ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient) with the Flynn effect, age, etc. TL;DR - 2/10, also suspect it's organic advertising for his snake oil "MLOps" startup.
(DIR) Post #AACgFf6I7BhWNSjjHs by PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
2021-08-11T03:53:45.817612Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @Nike @djsumdog @freemo @natsock @racerealist I honestly don’t feel like I’m anything special and my “intelligence” really depends on what mood you find me in and how strongly I feel about whatever it is that’s testing my intelligence.I think that psychometrics are silly and just another extension of the silliness of psychology in general and they aren’t even important. This is something the Nazis also believed.Contrary to Turkheimer’s insinuation, the Nazis vehemently opposed the Galton-Spearman tradition. They preferred a Jungian, typological and völkisch conception of intelligence, more akin to Gardner’s Multiple Intelligences or Sternberg’s Triarchic Abilities. In fact, the arguments of Gould, Lewontin, Rose, Kamin, Sternberg, and Gardner are hardly distinguishable from those made by prominent Nazi psychologists (few, if any, Nazis considered themselves to be concerned primarily with mental measurement; this was “bourgeois”).Given that I’m a native German speaker, I can read sources on this that Turkheimer may be unaware of. Erich Rudolph Jaensch and Friedrich Becker offer an excellent description of Nazi views towards intelligence and group differences. From their writing we can see that the Nazis believed intelligence research represented the victory of a “bourgeois spirit”; that intelligence measurement — especially with a predominant general factor a la Spearman — was an “instrument for Jewry” to “fortify its hegemony” over white Gentiles; that the use of intelligence testing in schools was “a system of examination of Jewish origin,” etc. Almost exactly like Sternberg (and more recently people like Nassim Taleb), the Nazis claimed that, because people differ and thus intelligence differs, there should be examinations not for “intellectualism,” but for “practical intelligence.” The Nazis claimed that correlation and factor analysis were invalid tools for understanding anything (compare this to Hilgard 1955 p. 228: “Correlation is an instrument of the devil”) and that even if a general factor emerged from ability tests, it was invalid; that life was more complex than a dominant general factor (a fact no one contests); and that regardless of what the results showed, they would be unconvincing, because understanding is always distant, multifaceted, complex. In Volkmar Weiss’ Vorgeschichte und Folgen des arischen Ahnenpasses: Zur Geschichte der Genealogie im 20. Jahrhundert (also recommended is Thilo Sarrazin’s Deutschland schafft sich ab) he records that the Nazis rejected IQ tests; if they had accepted them, they would have had to admit that Jews outperformed Germans and that Slavs performed very similarly to Germans. This is completely inconsistent with what Turkheimer implies and with the apparently popular view that Nazis cherished and frequently used IQ tests. When it came to group differences in humans, the Nazis were pragmatic nihilists capable of denying evidence when it suited their agenda — like Turkheimer.The disdain for the “bourgeois” displayed by the Nazis was shared by their intellectual successors, Lewontin et al. With the same collectivistic impulse, both groups attacked the individualistic g-based Galton-Spearman-Jensen paradigm. The first articulations of the criticisms of intelligence brought forward by pop intellectuals like Gould et al. were made by the Nazis (this includes “reification” and certain types of accusations of class bias). Exchanging the terms “1%” or “dominant class” for “Jews” would make it impossible to distinguish their arguments. The censure of Luria by the communists for his interest in intelligence is yet another example of the totalitarian (this time communist) opposition to this sort of research — les extrêmes se touchent.The Nazis also believed much of the Jewish-Gentile difference to be the result of environments, not genes. The Nazis were typological thinkers when it came to anthropology, but types were often the result of the environment (certain types of education, they believed, would make Germans more like Jews). In Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf, he mentions a blackguarding type bearing an indelible blemish from his cramped home environment. Hitler believed that by improvement of German rearing environments, these blackguards could be precluded from existing, without a single shot being fired. Similarly, the Nazis believed that Jewish children could be re-educated away from their Jewishness. Heredity was secondary for the Nazis. Lothrop Stoddard’s trip to the Nazi eugenics courts in Into the Darkness is an almost farcical illustration of this fact. Many young Jewish children were forcefully adopted into German families out of the Nazi belief in the impotence of heredity and the fluidity of the mind.I’m not saying that I simply believe in this because I go for anything the Nazis went for. If that were the case I’d have just copy/pasted the first paragraph. But to me, the rationale behind it is sound. I’m fairly certain I got as flattering a score I did mostly because I simply presented well to the gushing woman psychologist.I think more than anything… a vital spirit is the key to a sharper mind. It takes a certain courage to challenge assumptions and second guess the situation. From that, a sense of perception can grow and from it, judgement. I think intelligence as very mutable as a human quality and that the brain (and in particular, the visual cortex) are HIGHLY sensitive to change and even evolution. If there’s one thing I know about human psychology… it’s that the field of psychology knows FUCK ALL about psychology. These retard quacks focus on stupid shit like neuronal physiology and neurotransmitters like serotonin and they don’t even know what the fuck they do. But they never stop to consider that there may be other factors like diet and metabolism, endocrinal physiology and imunop-scyhology and the effect that cytokines and other small proteins might have on the brain. And we know that among different races are different immune systems so it may have something to do with that and may be remedied if any race is seemingly deficient in intelligence.Also: My great-grandfather had sex with Hitler
(DIR) Post #AACgbGzYQmW5ybtGpE by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:33:53.176927Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @Nike @djsumdog @freemo @natsock damn i mean alright coolyou havent read a single one of my sources though
(DIR) Post #AACgbHUOa7BdWGJttg by Retard_Tonight@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:57:39.579204Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @Nike @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Casually scrolled through this thread and I'm surprised anyone gives a shit enough to respond to you when all you need is to be called a big nigger baby.BIG NIGGER BABYBIG NIGGER BABYBIG NIGGER BABY
(DIR) Post #AAChb6JyCjLgptvCIi by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:08:49.948799Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock hey would you rather have a doctor with an IQ of 70 or a doctor with an IQ of 120?
(DIR) Post #AAChwc49NBKlN8mOqe by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:09:30.548007Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock hey, did you read this article?notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/10/04/doctors-iq-and-job-performance/
(DIR) Post #AAChwcaPRF8czBsA88 by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:12:42.894837Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock no and i’m not going to why can’t you answer a simple question
(DIR) Post #AACi6PTf21PPE2NqNs by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:13:33.260349Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock you should change your name to "RetardedZikaBaby" since you are incapable of reading a single article
(DIR) Post #AACi7M6f3B4H3n4oE4 by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:14:39.579966Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock i can read it i’m just not going to because it’s not relevant to the question i asked you
(DIR) Post #AACiAwJms9TaEmvQVU by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:14:57.663064Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock it kinda is though
(DIR) Post #AACiEwgjRFBeXlZFhY by AnimeTradCath@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:16:00.374333Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock I got your argument right here.
(DIR) Post #AACiGbBmLKd0RasUFs by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:16:19.939713Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock you can’t say whether or not you would rather have a 70 IQ doctor or a 120 IQ doctor? is the question not simple enough for you?
(DIR) Post #AACiR2L2G1T7XfBW0e by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:17:10.983638Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock even nassim talebs criticism of IQ was that it is just a "measurement of unintelligence". its a dumbass question
(DIR) Post #AACiSVpK6albHx3ULw by Dwight88@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:18:28.900696Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock @racerealist fucking diversity hires
(DIR) Post #AACifS9b4ZWBf4i0Ia by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:02:49.989145Z
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@InceptionState @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock The following studies found raw correlations between 0.12 and 0.34, which doubled under correction from meta analysis:researchgate.net/profile/Neil-Anderson-14/publication/289964229_A_meta-analytic_study_of_general_mental_ability_validity_for_different_occupations_in_the_European_Community/links/56e9682008aedfed73898dfa/A-meta-analytic-study-of-general-mental-ability-validity-for-different-occupations-in-the-European-Community.pdf?origin=publication_detailresearchgate.net/profile/Jesus-Salgado-6/publication/289964222_The_predictive_validity_of_cognitive_ability_tests_A_UK_meta-analysis/links/5c0848904585157ac1aaffb0/The-predictive-validity-of-cognitive-ability-tests-A-UK-meta-analysis.pdf?origin=publication_detailsimilar results from meta-analysis of 50 studies:researchgate.net/profile/Jonas-Lang/publication/227536884_General_mental_ability_narrower_cognitive_abilities_and_job_performance_The_perspective_of_the_nested-factors_model_of_cognitive_abilities/links/5b8847f5299bf1d5a7327ab3/General-mental-ability-narrower-cognitive-abilities-and-job-performance-The-perspective-of-the-nested-factors-model-of-cognitive-abilities.pdf?origin=publication_detailThese are the studies with corrected correlations from meta-analyses that are almost universally cited in favor of IQ, as both predictor of job performance and, by implication, the reification of IQ really measuring general intelligence.These studies draw strong conclusions from very weak data. Most original reports used for the meta analyses in these studies are unpublished. But the much deeper issue is extreme assumptions made about normality of distributions and randomness of effects (rarely articulated in primary reports). In short, this is simply badly misused statistics. ultimately, meta analysis cannot get around the severe flaw of applying incorrect statistical techniques to complex phenomena (averaging “predictions” that assume normality does get you away from this assumption; rather it makes it worse).
(DIR) Post #AACifSeRDuBjCj8dN2 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:06:14.219177Z
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@InceptionState @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock >No expert in the field thinks that IQ literally is intelligence.missing the point. the point is that the g factor is just correlation yet is treated as if it were a theory. its not. correlations are just observations. in science, we draw theories from observations. pointing to a correlation and explaining it with the correlation is by definition circular. its like if we said "the dinosaurs went extinct" and thats it. no theory explaining how or why.its clear you didnt read his article well at all. why do you completely ignore his points about complexity?
(DIR) Post #AACik1F2Yj1fduQqZc by bebe@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:21:38.809611Z
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@Eris @freemo @djsumdog @natsock Yes for instance, one settled fact is that Jesus Christ is God and that He is the only way to salvation. Thank you friend.
(DIR) Post #AACikLno7AihPWqtXc by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:21:42.535521Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock so it tells you nothing?
(DIR) Post #AACiocYjkr7iXWq6LI by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:21:46.076237Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo @natsock you are a closeted queer
(DIR) Post #AACisSttbjSpk4ZMMi by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2021-08-11T04:23:10.019471Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo @natsock False. Modern Science is Kantian. You cannot prove the objects to be studied, you must posit them first in order to measure. Thus, Covid is as real as unicorns, as both are equally capable of measurement.
(DIR) Post #AACj36qrvPCeXoEGHI by AMALEK_ETERNVL@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:24:49.900087Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock holy shit you're a fucking retard lmao
(DIR) Post #AACjD39yVQVDzRuDa4 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:26:15.886367Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo @natsock interesting how you dismiss the allegation
(DIR) Post #AACjDtgjCtbEu5d6qu by InceptionState@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:26:12.817960Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock It's a construct, g, not a theory. Just a shorthand way of referring to the broad correlation seen across a wide variety of mental tests. And that's why I referred to the whole reification argument as a strawman. Scientists found this correlation, and then spent a bunch of time trying to figure out why it exists and what could explain it. Here's some such theories: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_factor_(psychometrics)#Theories
(DIR) Post #AACjWiNFUsQfJcUX0i by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:28:05.335183Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo @natsock no you are dismissing it because you are secretly a queer
(DIR) Post #AACjZ1GoDFFIV3ZuKG by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:30:21.608105Z
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@Victor_Emmanuel @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock no.
(DIR) Post #AACjePxvp4CGXWK3ua by bebe@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:31:50.493134Z
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@parker @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @The_Flaming_Eyeball @djsumdog @freemo @natsock @verita84 Actually anyone who has competing beliefs tends to simply get excluded from the industries and academia. For instance many years ago the nutrition scientists were paid off to say that sugar was good for you, and that is why the cereals today with a lot of sugar can claim to be healthy. The same is true for the food pyramid; they were paid off by different industries and those who did not go along with it were excluded. In more recent times this is true with the global warming and evolution as well. Thank you friend.
(DIR) Post #AACjizX9WVWY0hygbI by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:31:23.187875Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock how about you stop being such a cocksucking queer tranny?
(DIR) Post #AACjpcJuEI8Y2dwPVw by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:33:14.692332Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock dont cut your dick off. its not a good idea
(DIR) Post #AACjthdUPJ87ge37fE by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:34:18.874930Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock why are you not addressing it? are you a queer yes or no? why no direct answer to such a simple question?
(DIR) Post #AACjw2LQNrpuUbiF8a by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:34:48.908476Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock doubt
(DIR) Post #AACk0O8JJhm9E7eaBM by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:35:31.703450Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock you are lying through your teeth. you are a queer
(DIR) Post #AACk3w3zcZ2fKRKEzo by AMALEK_ETERNVL@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:36:19.437578Z
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@racerealist @RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock just popping in briefly to call you a faggot retard, AND to remind you that there's a hell of a lot more of us than there are of you. You can keep replying, but you're only going to be further abused, mocked and jeered at. Rightfully so, too. Faggot
(DIR) Post #AACk8qZjS93tkuVsfo by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:36:14.705980Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock calling you a queer, because you are one.
(DIR) Post #AACk9W8YvYHgeo7m9g by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:36:49.042998Z
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@AMALEK_ETERNVL @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @natsock do you want to cut your dick off yes or no
(DIR) Post #AACkH5YJeUYYWUmSuW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:38:03.201706Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock notice how you provide no evidence for not being a queer. not that you can because you are one
(DIR) Post #AACkM043U4Zmwxy6aW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:39:20.509783Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock to show how youre not a queer. you arent because you are one clearly
(DIR) Post #AACkMnFmbG4XVWpfAe by bebe@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:39:51.782129Z
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@Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Yes it is a true fact but unfortunately some people deny it. If you read what the evolutionists say, they purposely invented evolution because they hate God and wish that He did not exist. The same is true for a lot of things in physics as well. Thank you friend.
(DIR) Post #AACkRLIhxHyIGGMysi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:40:04.239205Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock are you jewish
(DIR) Post #AACkSfB5XQbECNR3OC by AMALEK_ETERNVL@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:40:45.481098Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @natsock I will assume that you do want to cut your own dick off, based on your response.
(DIR) Post #AACkX1AjhokNZTLaKG by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:40:57.344738Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock you are jewish
(DIR) Post #AACkYMpiejqZ2c9zEG by Godcast@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:41:56.978860Z
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@bebe @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock deeply ironic, because evolution hits a hard stop at abiogenesis and physics points squarely to God.
(DIR) Post #AACkYUctgILNDADrM0 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:41:23.407983Z
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@AMALEK_ETERNVL @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @natsock yes i do absolutely 100% i will do it
(DIR) Post #AACkYVE7Ru7N4bdaN6 by AMALEK_ETERNVL@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:41:45.140787Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Good. Get slicing, faggot
(DIR) Post #AACkb5YBMzEgJAFrrE by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:42:04.635466Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock you are jewish and queer
(DIR) Post #AACkgHFBJxMc1TqEwi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:42:57.243458Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock true
(DIR) Post #AACkhsatwGYs9VlU2q by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:27:49.126912Z
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@InceptionState @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock >It's a construct, g, not a theory.thats the problem. see my example with dinosaurs>Here's some such theoriestheyll never go anywhere. ill die and they wont have amounted to anything. see Uttal mitpress.mit.edu/books/reliability-cognitive-neuroscience
(DIR) Post #AACkhtAhn9CXwYW4qu by InceptionState@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:43:29.226117Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Well yeah, they're working with the human brain, which is still largely a black box. But that doesn't look like circular reasoning to me, just an admission that they don't have the tools right now to solve the problem.
(DIR) Post #AACkogwndip63dFvlY by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:43:59.355937Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock im pretty sure its true. nobody believed galileo you know
(DIR) Post #AACkqxTFB3xdsnVom0 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:44:31.856115Z
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@InceptionState @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock without an explanation for the observation it is not a science yet they act as if theyve "discovered" something
(DIR) Post #AACkwJkPmOxsQC6DdA by InceptionState@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:46:08.927381Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Well to go back to your dinosaur example, I'd consider finding a bunch of dead dinosaurs to be discovering something... You might have also found a whole new bunch of questions, but that's just science for you.
(DIR) Post #AACkz8I6pbIxl5CaJ6 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:41:56.886288Z
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@AMALEK_ETERNVL @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @natsock i may die
(DIR) Post #AACkz8kp6qH1C8dW40 by AMALEK_ETERNVL@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:44:14.122295Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @natsock and?
(DIR) Post #AACkz9FJHUeyigtraC by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:44:43.344021Z
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@AMALEK_ETERNVL @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @natsock im probably going to die
(DIR) Post #AACkz9jnS92wFFAD6O by AMALEK_ETERNVL@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:46:35.050756Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @natsock if you cease being a faggot retard on the fedi after that occurs, I will consider it a small gain
(DIR) Post #AACl1HqQHamLy1HMky by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:46:33.669951Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock when you are on your deathbed you will realize that im right about you being a jewish queeralso, IQ was originally designed as a test to scope out children with learning disabilities. it is a better predictor with lower test scores for a reason. as argued in the article i linked, 80% of doctors have an average IQ of just 80.so basically, unless the IQ is really low, it doesnt matter for doctors
(DIR) Post #AACl8AS4AS0n48ARZg by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:48:02.865435Z
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@InceptionState @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock except dinosaur bones arent a statistical construct, theyre real. spearman made factor analysis to discover a correlation and then gave that correlation a name. thats not how it works
(DIR) Post #AAClB8AN7ZBgqXIuXY by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:48:57.369268Z
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@racerealist @AMALEK_ETERNVL @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock this is a weird dodge even from you lol
(DIR) Post #AAClETMalcxTSNc5pI by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:48:17.573917Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Victor_Emmanuel @djsumdog @freemo @natsock i am being 100% serious
(DIR) Post #AAClIS1tfUAQTipYMS by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T04:49:27.986010Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @AMALEK_ETERNVL @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock youre dodging accusations of being jewish
(DIR) Post #AACmYSTlrdvkSb46DI by PorkCow@freespeechextremist.com
2021-08-11T05:04:23.448942Z
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@freemo @natsock @djsumdog They are not a democratic system. An article gets locked whenever the goyim know.
(DIR) Post #AACnBbIL1Prl5xNjqS by InceptionState@poa.st
2021-08-11T05:09:33.701739Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Isn't step one in science often discovering a correlation and then trying to explore it further? I agree it's a weird case because of the nature of attempting to study human intelligence, but discovering that performance of virtually all cognitive tasks have a degree of correlation might seem obvious now, but was novel at the time. There were some pretty wacky theories from what I recall, speculating that entirely different parts of the brain were used for different things, for example.
(DIR) Post #AACnzYKuIP6WOlP1Jw by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T05:19:16.231648Z
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@InceptionState @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock Generate 2 lists of numbers randomly and see if they correlate. No? Do it again. Again. Eventually those lists will correlate. This little trick manifests itself in more insidious ways throughout science, usually in the form of “p-hacking.” We discussed in the Forcing versus Finding the Narrative section an unfortunate truth about using data to validate models. If we torture data long enough it will confess. If we are unwilling to change our model in the face of contrary evidence the data will eventually agree with our model.This same problem can occur in high-dimensional spaces when our “model” is a simple correlation cutting through feature space. We saw how factor analysis can resolve variation inside high-dimensional spaces using components. But factor analysis does not guarantee the best cuts. As depicted in Figure 33 we can choose any arrangement of components:This means there is more than one way to skin a high-dimensional cat. The arrangement we choose can drastically alter the way we interpret what we are seeing. For example, methods have been known since the 1930s that enable rotating the axes of our feature space. It can be shown that these rotations can easily make the “general factor” of intelligence disappear altogether, with no loss of information. The orientation that does resolve “g” holds no privileged status out of the many possible ways to position axes.
(DIR) Post #AACo6pUOv3ftcoJTEW by snow@wintermute.fr.to
2021-08-11T05:21:47.941426Z
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@verita84 Link?@djsumdog @Eris @natsock @DK_Dharmaraj @The_Flaming_Eyeball @freemo
(DIR) Post #AACoGGvwFgIbLchDsG by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T05:23:30.269839Z
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@racerealist @AMALEK_ETERNVL @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @LorgarAurelian1488 @djsumdog @freemo @natsock nigger what
(DIR) Post #AACqoekSPnzGxiqiKu by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T05:50:21.096659Z
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@InceptionState @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock also, you completely didnt read his section on the flynn effectBut what I want to highlight here is not whether something fundamental or environmental is the cause of the Flynn Effect. What I want to stress is how unsurprising the Flynn Effect is given what we know about complexity.Is wine good for you? Many studies say yes, so sure. But then again a recent global study says no amount of alcohol is good for your health. What about MSG? It’s been associated with weight gain and liver injury, but other studies show no adverse effects. Chocolate? Cow’s Milk? Fruit Juice?Conflicting nutrition news is nothing new, and I’m here to tell you that isn’t going to change anytime soon. Why is nutrition so hard to pin down? Sure, scientists debate all the time, but generally-accepted theories are commonplace in the core sciences. Why does nutrition advice “flip” around so haphazardly from year to year?A core message throughout this article has been the increase in proxy distance with complexity. There are large “distances” between a measurement and the thing we think we’re measuring when we choose to study complex phenomena.Choosing to frame nutrition as a science places an enormous burden of interpretability on the researcher. It also means they require a modeling approach that is commensurate with approximating the complexity observed. As I’ve argued throughout this article, simplistic linear measures fail under complexity because they cannot adequately capture the complexity being studied. This is why algorithmic modeling tackles its most complex challenges using high-dimensional feature spaces and highly intricate, black-block models.Nutrition researchers use simple, traditional statistical measures that are interpretable. This is the data modeling approach discussed earlier in PART I. But these simple measures are not stable under complexity. Traditional statistics play out inside low-dimensional feature spaces, leveraging simplistic pre-constructed models that are incommensurate with high complexity. The consequence is a measure that is not anchored well to the phenomena being explained.Just like nutrition, IQ studies will forever flip around haphazardly because the choice of measure (IQ tests) is constructed from simplistic statistical methods that are not fixed to the swirling underlying complexity of the phenomenon. IQ tests are unanchored to the phenomena they purport to explain and predict.
(DIR) Post #AACrAFQvDUyGot0WHo by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T05:54:15.826880Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo @natsock you have terrible reading comprehensionhe is saying the simplistic statistical models used by psychologists to construct IQ tests arent stable under complexity. the brain is complex and should be treated as such. what IQ researchers are doing is forcing a simple and convenient model onto nature. they do this to convince scientifically illiterate politicians to influence social policyessentially, they are picking convenience over rigor
(DIR) Post #AACrXPr8dBBho2JjW4 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T05:59:28.726395Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo >Yeah but... so? They are still useful and they still reliably tell you if someone is a tard or not.we can already tell that without an IQ test. even then thats hardly useful. as already argued by sean, iq researchers want their construct to be considered in the workforce. simply being able to tell someone is mentally disabled doesnt justify that>Yes it's called science.no. did you not read what he wrote about algorithmic models? if youre dealing with different, much more complex phenomena your approach must change. you cannot study something extremely complex and unknown the same way you study something simplethis is all clearly explained in his article. you are willfully ignorant
(DIR) Post #AACrwW2ykZCuFLpA00 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:04:06.762383Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo except those other models are construct valid
(DIR) Post #AACs4fMxyQG1Ta3klU by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:05:43.130469Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo validity is important in science. you cannot just make shit up. the model for IQ is unscientific because it lacks explanatory and predictive power, it lacks VALIDITY. those other models have validity
(DIR) Post #AACsVohjNHsOFLibI0 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:10:02.435982Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo IQ proponents try to prove themselves useful in the real world by trying to show IQ predicts life outcomes. the most important of these predictions are job performance, as theyre both allegedly the highest (at around .5 or .6) and are separate from IQ tests. as in, there are no social factors that could be creating the correlation. it shows IQ has applicability in the "real world" instead of just pencil pushing in schoolbut as shown by Sean it doesnt predict job performance because those correlations are inflated thru faulty application of meta-analysis, and the original studies used had numerous methodological issues. mainly missing data and low sample sizesnewer meta analyses used newer studies with bigger sample sizes and no missing data and found significantly lower correlations, at 0.06. for reference, other predictors of job performance (such as personality or motivation) correlate at about .2 at the *lowest*. so what use is IQ there?tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10888691.2014.983635
(DIR) Post #AACsuh3gwFfjlzqubQ by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:14:31.109015Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2019/08/22/iqs-influence-on-individual-economic-and-educational-success/an article arguing for the predictive utility of IQ using job performance correlationswww1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997whygmatters.pdfanother onethealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/the-validity-of-iq/another oneit is undoubtedly done in the bell curve as well. this is basic knowledge about intelligence research
(DIR) Post #AACsyaFOClE9o4B9nM by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:15:55.711561Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo because they are proposed by educated psychologists and significant IQ proponents, Linda Gottfredson being an obvious example
(DIR) Post #AACt4QekmCbtnYpWaW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:16:41.646834Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo my point is that IQ does not predict job performance and it therefore does not have predictive utility
(DIR) Post #AACt8aOMWOnX9R94rI by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:17:26.225138Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo bro i dont know what else to tell you. make your case for the scientific validity of IQ then. cite someone. like a study or a source or an argument
(DIR) Post #AACtM9QZZTH1ZpeDZ2 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:19:46.332268Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo 75 is a low score. as ive already explained, the predictive utility goes down as the score goes up. IQ is a measurement of *lack of* intelligence. so sure, someone with a 120 IQ. but heres another question: would you rather have someone with an IQ of 120 or 100?as argued here, notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/10/04/doctors-iq-and-job-performance/IQ doesnt predict how good your doctor is gonna be. ofc this sample didnt have many sub 80 IQ doctors because thats pretty low
(DIR) Post #AACtQvK5RHxnHQtDY8 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:20:45.201638Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo because you are hardly saying anything. my first reply to DK was to him talking about how criticising IQ is somehow the same as being a creationist - it clearly isnt
(DIR) Post #AACtZibI6uYSQc89Wy by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:22:00.862038Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo >So there is some.not really no, theres a difference between correlating and predicting. good predictive validity in science means predicting unseen observations. correlations can be spurious
(DIR) Post #AACtflQcVdpyw71QSe by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:23:38.068885Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo no. my arguments are attacking the extremely common and prevalent arguments for the validity of IQ. there is good logical reason for these arguments to be the most importanteven then i can just make claims on my own and those are true. for example, IQ doesnt have a theory for test construction, or a working theory for the definition of intelligence, or a working theory for why and how individuals differ in intelligence. that is valid criticism
(DIR) Post #AACtlWJXcHIXnXSJUW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:24:34.108662Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo they can be spurious or they can be caused by an unknown third variable. correlation doesnt imply causation. its that simplethe correlations are low, anyways
(DIR) Post #AACttX4qfBr0TtP65g by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T06:26:34.522692Z
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@racerealist >call yourself race realist>deny IQ because it makes niggers look stupidIt's a settled fact that blacks are dumb relative to whites. Basically every civilization on Earth by every race has pointed this out. It's a basic bitch observation and the science of IQ confirms it.@djsumdog @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo @Eris
(DIR) Post #AACttbUWFglUAfReeu by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:25:49.211766Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo ok then, but my criticisms are still valid. IQ research completely lacks theories, therefore it cannot have explanatory or predictive power (in the same way say, the theory of natural selection does)
(DIR) Post #AACtx8ibAf9Y5kiUVc by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:26:18.124372Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo ok fair, then someone can argue their case for the tests validity and ill respond
(DIR) Post #AACu01LP2nxQ5eEzho by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:26:40.693541Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo well as already argued in the article i linked they found personality and hard work were more important, so
(DIR) Post #AACu4Ct24Vkd2wy0a8 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:27:07.030615Z
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@NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo >"""science""" of IQsure. good job not acknowledging a single one of my arguments
(DIR) Post #AACu4DTXskxSsC3AUi by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T06:28:31.133662Z
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@racerealist I don’t have to, people don’t spend this amount of time trying to deconstruct people’s evidence unless they just don’t like it. Since you think IQ is shit, find me a better psychometric for intelligence.@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo
(DIR) Post #AACu4UnJUVs6aQQhAO by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:28:07.363001Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo DK can make his case. he compared IQ criticism to a denial of evolution. i take issue with that, obviously.
(DIR) Post #AACuAoPnSFypB0RRw0 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:28:54.281868Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo what. no im not arguing against the article i agree with it thats why i linked it. its evidence that "intelligence" isnt as important to a doctors performance on the job as say, motivation or hard work or personality
(DIR) Post #AACuDzhJxk3H2P9j6G by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:29:49.537377Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo one does not need an alternative explanation to criticise one that is clearly flawed. IQ tests have numerous conceptual and methodological issues as explained in detail in this article seanamcclure.medium.com/intelligence-complexity-and-the-failed-science-of-iq-4fb17ce3f12
(DIR) Post #AACuI6hTrwhDukBxFg by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:30:36.901388Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo this is literally not true. we have well accepted theories and definitions in physiology. IQ is not one of them, and it never will be
(DIR) Post #AACuKwlTGYSpy5PcuG by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:30:51.133041Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo no its not. i already argued it barely correlated, if at all
(DIR) Post #AACuMTLXc5AbJB0lBA by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:31:31.195676Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo physiology is a cult?
(DIR) Post #AACuQelN6mj1sI5Xto by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T06:32:34.202857Z
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@racerealist All metrics are “flawed.” Something doesn’t need to be perfect for it to be useful. IQ is the best psychometric for intelligence and so using it as a heuristic for intelligence is totally valid until you come up with a less flawed one.@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo
(DIR) Post #AACuSZ8qylcd1Hyxsm by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:32:24.330407Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo you clearly dont know what you are talking about
(DIR) Post #AACuUvojdvsFvShTQu by sysrq@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:33:23.110358Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo Just shut the fuck up and stop clogging my feed you nigger
(DIR) Post #AACuYVS3c1dtJPnUuG by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:33:38.851444Z
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@sysrq @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo learn to mute or block or something
(DIR) Post #AACuYVwtlMJQr4E7yi by sysrq@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:34:01.646201Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo No fuck you
(DIR) Post #AACuae0glLmCR311DE by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:33:58.358902Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo no you dont. you havent provided a single source or argued anything
(DIR) Post #AACueOf7ldyHzdiaRs by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:34:24.404916Z
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@sysrq @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo not my problem
(DIR) Post #AACuePDVhnTdiHo32u by sysrq@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:35:05.636413Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo It'll soon be you fucking nigger retard
(DIR) Post #AACugbXkqYTmWSK8Tw by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:34:45.685837Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo some are more flawed than others. IQ very much so, see Sean's article
(DIR) Post #AACuhoCPHKy03xue7U by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:35:08.173344Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo data is important to back up your claims
(DIR) Post #AACumIqPHa96GWlW40 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:36:07.154612Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo then what is stopping people from just making shit up?
(DIR) Post #AACv4b0uT4LlpUOusC by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:37:25.646555Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo i dont completely agree with this but ill give it to you for now. sure, for the most part very low iq people are worse at complex jobs than high IQ people. that doesnt mean criticising IQ is the same as being a creationistit is absolutely worthwhile to criticise IQ
(DIR) Post #AACv6v2Izn1qVWA42a by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:37:48.962510Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo clearly sources could guard against thatare you interested in the truth at all?
(DIR) Post #AACvARKxMHTnYUZ2NU by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:40:10.098059Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo what. why notok say it isnthow is that the same thing as being a creationist
(DIR) Post #AACvTFyznUK9qKGTfU by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:41:52.817354Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo the fuck are you talking abouti care about the truth. i want to learn more as theres another side to many stories. i want to grow my knowledge in many fields, because its interesting. because its fun. when pursuing both criticisms and praise for IQ testing and psychology, i learned a lot. and after learning some more, ive formed my own opinion.
(DIR) Post #AACvcnK1DFInqfe6zI by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T06:45:57.780938Z
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@racerealist Criticize IQ all you want but it doesn't make it go away and, importantly, it doesn't make "X group has a significantly lower IQ then Y group, therefore X group is measurably dumber" anything less than a slam dunk argument. In order for you to attack this argument you need to come up with a better means of measuring intelligence.There's this rather disingenuous effort by leftists to effectively counterspell evidence they don't like by pointing out that it's imperfect and therefore totally invalid. It's a strategy of subtraction. They don't ever offer any real evidence for their actual position -- that blacks and whites are, genetically, of roughly equal intelligence -- they just offer never-ending copes about why the evidence that realists offer doesn't count.@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo
(DIR) Post #AACvpNWkQawlc1bI7U by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:47:29.781593Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo its not just that it isnt perfect. it isnt scientific. and i dont have a position on race or leftists or whatever. when did i mention that?
(DIR) Post #AACvqmIZoWIyjGdhbs by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:48:32.290220Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist they only think it's necessary when they suspect that their findings will be the opposite of what they desire to be true
(DIR) Post #AACvv6X2Wr7CdjT2MS by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:47:49.589130Z
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@Eris @NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo lol, at least youre honest with yourself i guess. dumbass
(DIR) Post #AACvyScupzPC2BofOi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:49:38.017165Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo yeah, cus science has never gotten us anywhere
(DIR) Post #AACw0oUSWJOKQEyyUC by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:50:08.526437Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo if it isnt scientific there is good reason to doubt its findings
(DIR) Post #AACw6NJOTwX7rpSVdY by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T06:51:19.413460Z
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@racerealist it totally is scientific. You give people logic problems and memory problems and the like and you record their answers and how long they took to make them etc. Then you use that information to extrapolate how smart they are. It's imperfect, but it measures something very real, which is a person's intelligence. What next, are you going to tell me that I can extrapolate an object's density using its size and weight? Of course it's scientific.@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo
(DIR) Post #AACw8wVcafmzbnP1Gq by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:50:51.370590Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo i know youre just fucking around. this is a waste of time. if you wanna be willfully dumb and ignorant go for it. id rather talk with people who actually care about making sense of the world around us
(DIR) Post #AACwGpZ4IG6MO5mB28 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:52:55.606391Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo then theres no conversation to be had. it would be a better use of my time to go talk with hereditarians like Ryan Faulk or Emil Kirkegaard
(DIR) Post #AACwMwlwPOasTliJDU by GrantTK@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:54:21.183095Z
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@Eris @racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo >call yourself race realist>not really a race realistThis has to be a jew account. Science has proven that niggers are apes. advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/7/eaax5097.full
(DIR) Post #AACwOAzj12mGsWkOFk by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:54:00.119266Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo on what theoretical basis are those problems denied/accepted into the test? on what theory of intelligence are these tests designed around? brain physiology?the first IQ test was constructed long before MRI
(DIR) Post #AACwW7axXStoeTx4b2 by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:56:00.568236Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist going back and reading the thread and i'm becoming increasingly amused by just how much this guy argues like a redditor. his whole schtick is basic-bitch sourcefagging and then getting butthurt when you dismiss his sources as irrelevant to the questions that you're asking about the point he's trying to make and then pretending to be retarded when he can't answer them.
(DIR) Post #AACwXIINF0PM7yolGK by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:54:53.993741Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo because you dont care about facts or evidence or science. i get its a meme now, but obviously those things matter. people think they are right because they believe their ideas are supported by good science. if you dont care about that then theres nothing to talk abouti really dont think youre being genuine
(DIR) Post #AACwbcg3P4agV1xSNc by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:55:32.329237Z
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@GrantTK @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo doesnt acknowledge a single one of my arguments
(DIR) Post #AACwbdDNPBFIANY4Js by GrantTK@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:57:00.124365Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo niggers are apes, who cares about anything else
(DIR) Post #AACwcazd9PtvZ7ZwDw by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T06:57:02.916727Z
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@racerealist it depends on the question and which IQ test we're going with. There are several. Modern IQ tests literally generate new questions on the fly that conform to a logical framework. If you don't want to accept that being able to notice patterns, being able to perform logic, being able to remember things, and so on make you smart and not being able to do those things makes you dumb, then you and I are operating on a very different conception of "intelligence." However, I suspect that you and I are operating on the exact same conception of intelligence, and you just don't want to admit that IQ accurately measures it@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo
(DIR) Post #AACwgFNXSFJJgiVDrk by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:56:29.753783Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo because they reduce bias in the test and help make it more objective, obviously. without those things, psychologists make assumptions and construct tests based around intuition instead of observations and theories constructed and tested around those observations
(DIR) Post #AACwkC0HwdHsNYVc8m by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:57:12.238965Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo you are incapable of reading. you lack reading comprehension and you are illiterate
(DIR) Post #AACwnOqaeIlv56VB9U by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:58:18.254190Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo >Modern IQ tests literally generate new questions on the fly that conform to a logical frameworkwhat logical framework?many items that have been excluded from tests surely can do the things you say, no? why were they excluded?
(DIR) Post #AACwq4NbCgDSTGDN0i by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:58:59.086419Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo it shows you are willfully ignorant and unwilling to learn
(DIR) Post #AACwrCVUTK7Zy0Rf1s by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T06:59:26.955963Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo why do you not acknowledge my point?
(DIR) Post #AACwsfWM5HsqF2Y8Vk by happypirate@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:00:05.081678Z
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@racerealist you reek of curry and shit
(DIR) Post #AACwsjL9srIu5TLFc8 by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:00:01.623784Z
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@NEETzsche @djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @racerealist @freemo I'm unable to load this hellthread but lemme just point out that if you think a cognitive test can be biased towards a certain race then you're admitting that different races have different cognitive abilities, no?
(DIR) Post #AACwyl2eTEiz6NYkgy by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:00:06.116886Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo i didnt write the articleand dunno, maybe try giving it a read and see for yourself
(DIR) Post #AACx0lNADAoKhu6ssa by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:00:58.092860Z
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@mushroom_soup @NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo i never said it was biased towards certain races. i said it lacks a theoretical framework from which to construct its tests around, and those tests are therefore prone to inherent bias from the test constructors
(DIR) Post #AACx2yBXXtur1Wj2HY by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:01:22.284842Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo read nigga read
(DIR) Post #AACx5JyTVMDRBHjfBg by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:02:21.506127Z
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@racerealist @djsumdog @NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo they're conducted by computers (computers are racist)
(DIR) Post #AACx5rbyRWQ3VLTAps by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:01:51.207626Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo hey man if you dont wanna read it then fine, but dont assume im wrong without even giving my argument a chance. thats clearly unfair
(DIR) Post #AACx6ZLrolgBA8Gvq4 by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:02:35.700546Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo >"sir would you like chocolate or vanilla ice cream?">"BEFORE I ANSWER THAT YOU MUST READ THIS WHITE PAPER FROM A HECKIN SUPER REPUTABLE ONLINE SOYIENCE JOURNAL ABOUT HOW MAKING A DISTINCTION BETWEEN CHOCOLATE AND VANILLA IS INVALID">"sir i'm not going to read that please just pick one there's literally only two flavors">"YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF READING YOU LACK READING COMPREHENSION AND YOU ARE ILLTERATE">"please sir there's a line forming behind you"
(DIR) Post #AACxEcdrT7ZPgRWqfI by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:02:50.823584Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup reason and logic which lead to theories
(DIR) Post #AACxEeKnAzVMvsceDg by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:03:37.546911Z
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@mushroom_soup @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo what? they are conducted by psychologiststhe first IQ tests were constructed in the early 1900's
(DIR) Post #AACxEeux0YQck1XWa0 by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:04:02.581416Z
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@racerealist @djsumdog @NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo today they are conducted by computers
(DIR) Post #AACxKM2G7l1LuufqTo by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:04:29.900700Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo yes but i agree with them. ive read their article, i believe theyre right. so it kinda is my argument
(DIR) Post #AACxMV03lVHuIbfT16 by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:05:28.221708Z
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@Eris @djsumdog @NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @racerealist @freemo "BLACKS ARENT DUMBER IQ DOESN'T PROVE THAT, IT ONLY PROVES THEY LACK PLANNING, MEMORY, LOGIC AND PATTERN RECOGNITION SKILLS THAT'S ALL!"
(DIR) Post #AACxOnrqaSgdOXvQZM by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:05:53.447488Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo no you simply cannot make your case without arguing from authority
(DIR) Post #AACxRaT0rmcChcdXNY by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:05:31.422271Z
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@Eris @RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo its not my fault you dont care about fair discussion
(DIR) Post #AACxRd3bEj4MjflmgS by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:05:10.115222Z
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@mushroom_soup @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo and how have the tests been changed since then? any new developments on the theory of "g"? on individual intelligence differences? on a neurophysiological theory of "g"?
(DIR) Post #AACxRdluZyVyx6VAki by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:06:24.034674Z
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@racerealist @mushroom_soup @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo SHUT THE FUCK UP HOLY SHIT NO ONE GIVES A DAMN
(DIR) Post #AACxVAGGEyK6aMNUK8 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:06:03.797465Z
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@mushroom_soup @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo why do you not acknowledge any of my arguments? IQ tests lack explanatory and predictive power and thus scientific validity
(DIR) Post #AACxVApM8UOcLCnW1g by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:07:01.943661Z
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@racerealist @djsumdog @NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo the explanation is race, you just don't want to admit it
(DIR) Post #AACxXGref3TjdysBeq by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:07:00.587743Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo what authority? their arguments are sound and thats why i link them,nothing to do with authority
(DIR) Post #AACxbRNpUgVxQTuWcy by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:07:32.461694Z
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@mushroom_soup @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo i dont care about race. and thats not an explanation
(DIR) Post #AACxcQKOu316RVm9Fg by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:07:56.545324Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup you said you dont care about science or evidence
(DIR) Post #AACxf6RvGffTeuZV1U by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:08:11.605821Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo its obviously a strawman
(DIR) Post #AACxitVxIlWihTGXR2 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:08:27.053898Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup its not relevant to my criticisms of IQ
(DIR) Post #AACxkOm8YkjHwaYH4K by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:09:42.903099Z
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@racerealist @djsumdog @NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo are you even listening to yourself? You're arguing that IQ shows whites are smarter and you can't THINK of a reason why whites should be smarter so therefore IQ is wrong? Do you realize how retarded of an argument that is
(DIR) Post #AACxl0ysVpV4R6nzCi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:08:46.873030Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup then you're clearly wrong. theres really nothing left
(DIR) Post #AACxmsDO4iR9pPThHk by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:09:33.287884Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo you do not like how i disagree with you and you do not want your beliefs challenged so you do that instead of giving an argument a fair read. you are clearly biased
(DIR) Post #AACxp0fdblT0dFi7e4 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:09:50.709568Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup nothing is relevant to you. science isnt relevant to you
(DIR) Post #AACxsewSKxCmOrJkEi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:10:57.583395Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo it is. one should acknowledge their bias and try to understand where the other side is coming from.
(DIR) Post #AACxuA8jpRHxRsmMnA by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:10:22.902177Z
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@mushroom_soup @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo do you not understand the importance of theories in science. do you need a textbook
(DIR) Post #AACxuAw0sEhhuhpib2 by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:11:32.738325Z
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@racerealist @djsumdog @NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo >I have a theory>The evidence doesn't back it up>UHH THE EVIDENCE IS JUST WRONG
(DIR) Post #AACxxbxSrFQSat9Nvk by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:11:48.964973Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo for open-mindedness and fair discussion
(DIR) Post #AACy1nbTVEK7ryrUki by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:12:56.354954Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo Let's have a fair discussion about why you should hang from a tree.
(DIR) Post #AACy4WFKUc1guEnhCK by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:13:02.427402Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo it is not devils advocacy. there are reasons to criticise IQ, you dont have to care. but imma express them because i want to
(DIR) Post #AACy6lwj5kKaB5Aodc by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:13:11.010145Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo ok
(DIR) Post #AACy86RONXaG1w9Soy by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:12:21.250660Z
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@mushroom_soup @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo there are no theories for iq test constructionyou are not acknowledging this criticism.
(DIR) Post #AACy86vsYByDYUPoLA by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:14:03.587435Z
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@racerealist @djsumdog @NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo oh my god I hate postmodernism so much. You're one step away from saying that intelligence isn't even real anyway. Fine, then, find a test that DOES fit your idea of a measurement of intelligence and try it out.
(DIR) Post #AACyE1zRq5tFxpuLM8 by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:15:08.892687Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo I'll start: You should hang because I said so and plus you're a gay nerd. I will not be listening to your rebuttal. Good bye.
(DIR) Post #AACyEPst08ty4R1RSa by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:14:33.125169Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo yes because 70 is super low. 100 and 120 IQ is about the same
(DIR) Post #AACyH0LSPapDjNcWCu by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:15:09.441279Z
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@mushroom_soup @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo doesnt acknowledge any of my arguements. start here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
(DIR) Post #AACyHtGkCoje4gq1zs by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:15:50.443243Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo you consider them to be an authority and are trying to get them to make your argument for you, and we're telling you that if you're truly confident that they are correct and you feel like you know the material then you should reasonably be able to construct some kind of case in favor of it but you can't.that tells us you either don't feel confident standing on your own two feet or you're more interested in acting as a hall monitor who's tasked with telling people where they should be farming their beliefs from. you're literally pulling the sjw "it's not my job to educate you, shitlord" card that people online had already pegged as retarded, cowardly, and petty almost a decade ago. to top it off you further engage in feminine behavior patterns by attempting to shame people into doing what you want through insults and impotent displays of anger like a spurned fifteen year old girl.it would literally take you less time and effort to just come out and make your own god damn case and argue it than crying about us dismissing your gay source.
(DIR) Post #AACyHybUN7IecTaAWe by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:15:51.028705Z
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@Eris @djsumdog @NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @racerealist @freemo this dude has never lived around more than 2 black people in his entire lifetime
(DIR) Post #AACyQQz0k3T0xAcLwG by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:16:52.795945Z
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@mushroom_soup @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo i dont see how thats important to the conversation about modeling complex phenomena and the burden of interpretation in intelligence research
(DIR) Post #AACyQRVcmnYSaJsOm0 by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:17:22.187400Z
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@racerealist @djsumdog @NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo that's a "no I haven't" then
(DIR) Post #AACyUvZowA5szpyfuS by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T07:18:09.769474Z
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@Eris @djsumdog @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @racerealist @freemo I'm going to elaborate on what I previously said about coping on the evidence you don't like instead of offering counter evidence. I've done actual research in a real University multiple times because the university that I went to is a research University. In every case, the lead scientist, the PhD holder who had been doing this for years, would literally make up a heuristic for what they were measuring and run with it. There was never a protracted, multi decade debate about if that heuristic counts as good enough. Because I was trusted by my professors they talked to me about their heuristic before locking into it. But it was a casual conversation in their office, it wasn't some elaborate tribunal.I'll give you an example. One of the research cases that I did was about measuring yeast cell diameters to see how big they are in certain phases, controlling for different growth environments. Because the professor was a biologist and I was a computer scientist, my approach was to take images of the yeast cells, use opencv to identify the circle like shapes in that image, and measure the diameter. Thing thing is, you only wanted them to be in the G1 phase, so you excluded all the yeast cells in whatever other phase, like the ones where they're in the process of splitting.So once I found all these circle like shapes, I had to come up with a weight of make sure that they weren't splitting. The way I did this is I measured their "circularity" and if they fell within a certain threshold range they counted it in the G1 phase and if they weren't in that threshold then they counted as in some other phase.Now, you're ready for this? I made the threshold up. I didn't use some elaborate technique of analysis to arrive at a certain threshold. I just eyeballed it and picked a couple numbers for the maximum and minimum circularities. The professor tinkered with the numbers too to see if she could get it a little tighter.Now just imagine having a multi decade debate about where those thresholds should be with this condescending attitude about how what we were doing didn't count as real science because we just made that threshold up. We got published by the way. Nobody questioned the threshold. In peer review they asked that we include the threshold in the paper, but that's it. Simply stating what our assumptions were was sufficient.That's how real science works. You literally just make shit up all the time, and when the subject matter isn't tainted with ideological controversy, nobody bats an eye.
(DIR) Post #AACyZOGaDAIJ8O6isi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:18:17.471726Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo i aleady did do that though. ive argued on my own numerous times. i just didnt want to before cus it feels pointless if the article already does. typing all that out takes a while, you know. saves me some time
(DIR) Post #AACyhzC4ngO9yl69M8 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:20:02.334606Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup its not my problem you are disinterested in science. dont act so confident in your ideas though
(DIR) Post #AACynQ6kA7MWtoC9Ka by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:21:32.713720Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo>saves me some time>now let me spend 3 hours throwing a bitch fit instead of defending my stancer u bein retarded on purpose?
(DIR) Post #AACyoYt30VasPtKiLA by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:21:43.861134Z
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@NEETzsche @djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @racerealist @freemo yeast cells?? Who gave you my samples I wasn't informed of this?!?!
(DIR) Post #AACypV1CsKaChzb36u by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:21:16.416951Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup because you may be wrong. especially if you dont care at all about science
(DIR) Post #AACys8Da6SKirZdjWq by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:21:46.812555Z
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@NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo haha. that isnt as complex as the human brain, though!
(DIR) Post #AACyttwi8aCNB6aoVM by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:22:22.172903Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo hey, nobodys perfect. i still made my case on my own so
(DIR) Post #AACyuhanYKNb9cj1I8 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:22:37.136767Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup you obviously cant say that with complete certainty
(DIR) Post #AACyycsb180DhBvAGm by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:23:08.740863Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo yes. i clearly criticised the g factor. you responded to those posts
(DIR) Post #AACz0qdop4BAxK4JOa by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:23:31.436148Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup you are kind of insane
(DIR) Post #AACz0rAmqUYCbZUdma by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:23:58.221904Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup He's living in your walls...
(DIR) Post #AACz3gYwkcrGZB8uEi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:15:19.020160Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo ok
(DIR) Post #AACz3gzt8SPPujkQEK by GrantTK@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:24:28.903472Z
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@racerealist @Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo does the state of israel pay you by the hour or the word?
(DIR) Post #AACz3rf1UNFqzD4Pjc by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:24:30.791942Z
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@mushroom_soup @NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist you know i can't believe i'm actually saying this but all the grosspoasting you've been doing lately is beginning to make me miss your hoarnypoasting
(DIR) Post #AACz4eBd4RrDUEh8Do by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:23:45.935851Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo haha
(DIR) Post #AACz4wVmwEg6JyGU8u by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:24:35.819823Z
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@racerealist @djsumdog @NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo look, just end this and say you don't actually think intelligence is real (because acknowledging it's real world be acknowledging that some races are more intelligent than others) because we all know what's where this is headed
(DIR) Post #AACzC7pLGZjLRTpsu0 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:25:19.966275Z
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@mushroom_soup @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo no. i never said that. i wasnt talking about intelligence i was talking about an attempt to quantify it, mainly IQ and the g factor
(DIR) Post #AACzExH2xWsDa58ysi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:25:45.896107Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo haha, well it wasnt to you actually it was to someone else on poast. you just responded to it
(DIR) Post #AACzGdHgFfAwAAExJA by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:26:49.378706Z
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@racerealist @djsumdog @NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo if it's a real thing then it's measurable. Also I don't know/care about the g factor, we're talking about the n factor
(DIR) Post #AACzIZckpZKnOH1Toe by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:24:46.669670Z
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@GrantTK @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @Free_Idealist @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo i can get paid for this? where?
(DIR) Post #AACzIaBqj5PJ97RVWC by GrantTK@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:27:10.501302Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @Free_Idealist @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo
(DIR) Post #AACzL5xNacWcFPs9ce by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:27:37.732988Z
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@Eris @djsumdog @NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @racerealist @freemo what makes a literal attention whore different than just a figurative one?
(DIR) Post #AACzMbB4zpk7MpzuO8 by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:27:54.106611Z
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@Eris @racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo considering how retarded he's being i think it's safe to assume he has a pathological inability to do a lot of things
(DIR) Post #AACzNkveEABDtpKbKa by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:27:42.209189Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo but i was actually replying to the other guy. did you not see the guy who said arguments of reification reminded him of Gould. that guy i was responding to him. scroll up
(DIR) Post #AACzSsP1rp2QWkW2dc by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:28:19.235172Z
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@mushroom_soup @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo i know you dont care about science already
(DIR) Post #AACzSt7hBklclHPiG8 by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:29:01.311996Z
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@racerealist @djsumdog @NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @freemo good argument 10/10 :1000: everybody clapped
(DIR) Post #AACzTbPcWTFW7c8eJ6 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:28:29.293835Z
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@GrantTK @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @Free_Idealist @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo you dont need to be so mean to Eris
(DIR) Post #AACzX3bOAbomQ5I4MS by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:29:12.207494Z
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@Eris @GrantTK @DK_Dharmaraj @Free_Idealist @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo here are my rules en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictive_validity
(DIR) Post #AACzX4FnkM90RQCLLs by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T07:29:44.540877Z
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@racerealist >that isn't as complex as the human brain though!Yeah but so what? The practice of science is and always will be inexact. While I can understand criticizing IQ in the abstract, in reality the subject has been so tainted by ideology that any criticism of IQ implicitly reads as an attempt at diminishing its veracity if not completely invalidating it. You surely understand this. You surely also understand why people would cope for literally decades about the methodologies used for this for ideological, not intellectual, reasons.This is why I insist on you finding something better to supplant IQ with if you're going to be so critical of it. Over the decades, IQ has been through the wringer trying to make it perfect. It's probably the tightest, most well-understood psychometric out there because of how much tweaking was done to assuage the butthurt and controversy surrounding it.IQ is solid. Blacks are dumber than whites on aggregate. It's genetic. Cope.@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @freemo
(DIR) Post #AACzjSuRu4zUNt7eKm by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:32:02.109789Z
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@Eris @racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Free_Idealist @GrantTK @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo even joss whedon would've passed on this quip
(DIR) Post #AACzndzMeXodu8PjSC by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:31:29.174676Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo you are just asserting IQ is scientific. youve barely said anything in this post
(DIR) Post #AACzutK82KDHUYa9ei by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:33:26.512909Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo what a non-argument
(DIR) Post #AAD0BkCTD80Y7Q2IIi by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T07:37:04.734603Z
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@Eris you'd do it to improve your methods. A lot of this abstract wank can actually be reduced to something useful, but you have to go through the trouble of doing that. These nitpickers don't go through that trouble. They find some picayune flaw in your methodology and conclude that your results count for nothing.If I were to criticize IQ, it would be in pursuance of making a better IQ test. It would be constructive, rather than subtractive, criticism. I don't think I need to justify why making a better IQ test increases its usefulness.In the example of the yeast cells, maybe spending some time thinking about coming up with a more robust way of determining the threshold does have merit. Maybe the threshold shouldn't even be a constant and should be a variable instead that changes based on whatever else. I'm not unwilling to explore that stuff, because why not?What I am unwilling to do is humor people who obviously don't want to make things tighter and more robust and more intellectually sound, but just want to poopoo things because they know that they will always arrive at conclusions they don't like.@djsumdog @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @racerealist @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD0Co5KFjVcSNCWKO by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:35:55.187336Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo the issue is there is literally no theory at all. without a theory it cannot be falsifiedimagine if darwin went "species change" without an explanatory theory as to how or why. hes just stating something obvious. thats what the problem with IQ is
(DIR) Post #AAD0GCXbmWuXAu34ZE by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:37:57.078154Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo >"species change">"IQ is real">"you're a faggot">refuses to elaborate
(DIR) Post #AAD0YQ89zjysXCphmi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:40:07.498175Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo you are completely missing the point. why do you think natural selection is considered fact. its because its an explanatory theory with predictive power. darwins theory of evolution is not just "species change". its a specific and risky explanation that has gone through revisions throughout the years. it wasnt perfect but it was falsifiable and largely true
(DIR) Post #AAD0eUI5RNKlAsMwSW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:41:41.243766Z
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@Eris @Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo except its an obvious observation we learn nothing from. same with "the dinosaurs went extinct". no shit. there were numerous proposed explanations for the extinction of the dinosaurs, many of them are not discussed at all today. because they lacked explanatory and predictive power
(DIR) Post #AAD0eUlVfyrye88RJw by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:42:20.399765Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo Dinosaurs never existed. Cope.
(DIR) Post #AAD0wf3W9gK7m3DiiW by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T07:45:34.139711Z
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@racerealist IQ is an explanatory theory with predictive power, though. It predicts that if you can't notice patterns, remember things, or perform logic, then you're a fucktard who will make lots of dumbass mistakes in life and end up living in a bedbug apartment at $500/mo while on food stamps. Conversely, it predicts that if you notice very subtle patterns, perform elaborate logic, and remember complex things that you are a galaxy brain who will do things like invent useful tools, establish effective businesses, and create compelling art.These predictions are accurate. @djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD141PFSGeZ7UtVtg by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:46:38.993350Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo no it doesnt lmao i already argued thistandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10888691.2014.983635also thats not theoretical. youre describing correlations again
(DIR) Post #AAD1CDdfrG2NNLYCuW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:48:06.576023Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo how high are these correlations?poa.st/notice/AACsPiKdDhcYRL7XU0did you not read this post?
(DIR) Post #AAD1IugshoBkdTF81g by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T07:49:36.179449Z
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@racerealist that's what predictive models do, they predict outcomes, i.e., correlations. I don't need a "theoretical" basis to predict that people who measure as smart do smart things and people who measure as dumb do dumb things. In fact, the fact that these measurements prove accurate in reality is in itself a theoretical basis to take those models seriously@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD1KCTW4L245BbaIi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:49:12.797198Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo 0.06 is high enough to be useful? when our worst predictors are .2? and highest are .6?
(DIR) Post #AAD1P6FscckwEvYzFg by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:50:14.776911Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo is 0.06 a high correlation? why does every other predictor correlate more highly?
(DIR) Post #AAD1XigxbBi9lYL9bE by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:51:16.824687Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo IQ isnt enough information to go off of. there are so many other factors to being a good doctorill flip a coin
(DIR) Post #AAD1ZgREwrcvM7vK2C by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T07:52:37.911690Z
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@racerealist given a 70IQ doctor and a 140IQ doctor, ceteris paribus, you'll flip a coin? Fuck you. No you wouldn't.@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD1b46ISTyR24moKW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:52:20.911775Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo ddue, the correlation is 0.06that is pathetically low. you do understand IQ tests cost money right. its a waste of money to administer that if it predicts worse than an interview which everyone has always been doing before anyways. hell, teachers assessment correlates way higher
(DIR) Post #AAD1g15B6gUd7Vcki0 by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:53:49.445375Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo I will use the heuristic of "do they look like a retard/are they a niggerfaggot?". Fuck your gay studies and assessments. Also kys.
(DIR) Post #AAD1ieh4nueyYFbouW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:53:28.454975Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo no. i would flip a coin. ive cited studies showing no effect of IQ on a doctors job performance before, plus the low correlation between job performance and IQ cited by richardson and norgate. i have reason to believe it isnt very important. i flip the coin
(DIR) Post #AAD1iwJdHobPCkmLrs by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:54:19.285536Z
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@NEETzsche @djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @racerealist @freemo no other race in the world spends so much energy and brain power to devalue itself than the white race does and it's fucking embarrassing
(DIR) Post #AAD1ky0rwkSb32y97A by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:54:12.030956Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo why do you ignore such a low correlation? that correlation might as well be zero its so low
(DIR) Post #AAD1nwF4zF9mQP25oG by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:54:50.768121Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo youre a dumbass who ignores the evidence. not my problem
(DIR) Post #AAD1sHGokNNkngumMi by happypirate@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:56:02.293444Z
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@Eris @racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche It is my sincere belief that racerealist is a currycel and should shit himself to death in Mumbai. He is not interested in good arguments. He is not capable of good argument. He is a disingenuous faggot coping with the fact that his people are retarded street shitters.
(DIR) Post #AAD232jx6s0UvCfxse by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:57:37.801356Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo this is obviously a dumbass argument. stop doing this hsit
(DIR) Post #AAD25CWngp6hrDYLz6 by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T07:58:18.857698Z
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@racerealist I ignore such a low correlation because I don't believe that number is accurate. Either they fucked up the methodology somehow or they just fudged the numbers after the fact.I don't think you appreciate how intellectually bankrupt this world is when it comes to the question of race and intelligence, especially in the University setting. There was a cognitive science department at my University, and they banned all research relating to intelligence to prevent racism. No, I am not making that up. They really did that shit. They're so scared of arriving at the (correct) conclusion that blacks tend to be dumber than whites that the subject of intelligence was totally forbidden.In a cognitive science department.Cognitive science. Can't study intelligence.I can't stress enough how retarded that is. You might as well throw out the whole field.So, yeah, I just don't believe your numbers are correct@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD26RqIEjS3dyGVYe by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:57:13.551093Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo There is evidence that IQ is irrelevant to becoming a doctor and that it did not predict dropping out of the program, career outcome, amount of research publications published, or stress, burnout and satisfaction with taking a career in medicine (McManus et al, 2003). Diplomas, higher academic degrees, and research publications were significantly correlated with personality.McManus et al (2003) write: Intelligence did not independently predict dropping off the register, career outcome, or other measures. … Intelligence does not predict careers, thus rejecting the ability argument. A levels predict because they assess achievement, and the structural model shows how past achievements predict future achievement.And on the causes for dropping out: All 511 students registered with the General Medical Council, but only 464 were on the 2001 Medical Register. The 47 doctors who left the register (a mean of 11.1 years after qualifying; SD 5.9; range 2-23) had lower A level grades but not lower AH5 scores (table A, bmj.com); see bmj.com for ROC analysis. Two doctors subsequently returned to the register. Of the remainder, three had died, contact details were available for 35, and no information was available for seven.So lower intelligence scores were not the cause for dropping out.
(DIR) Post #AAD29tbpSP2Kd58yiu by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:54:36.092382Z
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@mushroom_soup @NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo ok. dont see how thats relevant though
(DIR) Post #AAD29uBdJHg0Q7tZWy by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T07:59:12.816888Z
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@racerealist @djsumdog @NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @freemo because you would not be having this argument if black people scored as highly or higher than white people on IQ tests
(DIR) Post #AAD2DIW7J4q8kT5tc8 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T07:59:06.890781Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo >i dont believe your numbers are correct>no evidence as to whylol. see my citation
(DIR) Post #AAD2HgD3A1CpO6GVeq by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:00:06.166078Z
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@Eris @NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo non-argument. richardson and norgate show IQ does not predict job performance. it is that simple
(DIR) Post #AAD2KWRfv5TryQSftA by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:00:23.108569Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo you didnt read my poast. and i would flip a coin
(DIR) Post #AAD2RSL9a5lLGiiXQG by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:01:33.995479Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo the meta analysis found extremely low correlations and the studies had no missing data and larger sample sizes. those that reported higher correlations had more methodological issues
(DIR) Post #AAD2UtUl4n0SMBqiSu by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:02:16.537754Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo you didnt read my poast. i tried to introduce nuance last time but you didnt listen to me because you dont care about scienceid flip a coin
(DIR) Post #AAD2YQIFac7wwogJsG by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:03:04.485428Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo so theres no difference between finding a correlation of .1 and finding a correlation of .5?
(DIR) Post #AAD2Zkj16uGEbZpqym by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:03:26.967681Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo its called evidence and i provided it. IQ does not have predictive validity
(DIR) Post #AAD2e3lkFO5cpMAIng by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T08:04:39.515853Z
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@racerealist @djsumdog @NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @freemo you realize that someone with a 70 iq is in the mid tier autistic range right? Not just like a normal albeit stupid person?
(DIR) Post #AAD2eJvu9NiuxV2drE by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:04:16.838919Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo lol
(DIR) Post #AAD2hlF54UciWeeSoq by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T08:05:13.391380Z
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@Eris pretty much this. Formal science is most useful for things you can’t just observe on your own. Any study saying the sky is a color other than blue is just wrong. No further analysis required.I’m going to go a step farther and say that maybe if a heuristic for intelligence doesn’t rate blacks as significantly dumber than whites, then it’s probably bullshit because I don’t need an IQ test to discern that blacks tend to be dumber than whites@djsumdog @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @racerealist @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD2jtmeHluHazN8T2 by SneedsterSpeedster@kiwifarms.cc
2021-08-11T08:05:41.588673Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo "If a person scores below 70 on a properly administered and scored I.Q. test, he or she is in the bottom 2 percent of the American population10 and meets the first condition necessary to be defined as having mental retardation."https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/ustat/ustat0301-01.htm
(DIR) Post #AAD2ovDgNFK1UtPcHY by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:05:49.965139Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo doesnt change the fact that IQ barely correlates with job performance at all, and in some cases (such as the doctor example i provided) it doesnt correlate at all
(DIR) Post #AAD2tL4yAf9srDRWk4 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:06:21.791324Z
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@NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo thats great. IQ doesnt predict job performance
(DIR) Post #AAD2tLZSLJXqNlhsGG by Tripp@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:07:25.940942Z
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@racerealist @NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo McNamaras retards prove you wrong.
(DIR) Post #AAD2uUKLGydrpSBJ3o by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:06:51.439783Z
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@Eris @SneedsterSpeedster @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo IQ doesnt predict job performance. those same low correlations i cited were stable across all job families regardless of job complexity
(DIR) Post #AAD2xIPg1cITkO11X6 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:07:24.037246Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo dude they just iq tested some employees and then saw how did they did and wrote it downit wasnt a lab environment
(DIR) Post #AAD2yIg8WWIorOC2nQ by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:05:11.740402Z
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@mushroom_soup @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo you do realize IQ correlates with job performance at 0.06 right?
(DIR) Post #AAD2yJC2btp6SL7WWe by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:08:19.849884Z
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@racerealist @mushroom_soup @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo Ay bro lemme do a study rq (real quick). Hmm, this is odd. All signs point to you being a retarded faggot. Lemme double check... Nope, sorry. Same thing. Let me get this peer reviewed. I'll get back to you in a week or so.
(DIR) Post #AAD31vyKt5YFazRFtw by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:08:16.809277Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @SneedsterSpeedster @djsumdog @freemo being a plumber is more simple than being a doctor, being a doctor is more complex etcthe assumption is that IQ would matter for more complex jobs as more intelligence would be needed
(DIR) Post #AAD33pd9R8ieVSR0GO by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:08:58.362252Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup IQ doesnt predict job performance as shown by Richardson and Norgate
(DIR) Post #AAD382BAisQ6aGLqO8 by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:10:05.524253Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup They're wrong and so are you lol
(DIR) Post #AAD3AvXhqznurzGrrc by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:09:55.913053Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @SneedsterSpeedster @djsumdog @freemo you get the point. being a janitor is simpler than being a doctor. the point they assume different jobs require different intelligence and therefore the correlation would differ between jobs. they dont. its a stable , low correlation. it doesnt predict
(DIR) Post #AAD3BzHhQYDSlSI14q by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T08:10:43.289259Z
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@racerealist >IQ doesn't predict job performanceDid they just put random people in a given job and discern how well they did? No? Then they're not comparing job performance to IQ. I will bet you a million dollars that if we put a bunch of 145 IQ people and a bunch of 55 IQ people in a room and let them day trade stocks with pretend starting money, in half a year the high IQ people will have a higher score than the low IQ ones.Every time. You know why that is? Because they're smarter.@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD3ConLucq4WOUVzk by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:10:36.987083Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup evidence?
(DIR) Post #AAD3DijjvFDu1PEQ8e by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:10:45.699116Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @SneedsterSpeedster @djsumdog @freemo yeah because youre dumb
(DIR) Post #AAD3IxctzRrZeJX36O by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:12:03.954134Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup Got my evidence right here:
(DIR) Post #AAD3KmsOvgP4t6eWRs by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:12:00.021364Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo lol this applies to the studies that found high correlations as well dumbassreading isnt hard tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10888691.2014.983635btw learn how to cite sources (and read them also)
(DIR) Post #AAD3MWspMWurrhgO6i by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:12:18.727365Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup thats not evidence
(DIR) Post #AAD3OlQcFtwPYSYJvs by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:12:46.097440Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo the studies that found lower correlations had better methodology. learn to read
(DIR) Post #AAD3TmGQZla9avB4jI by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:13:25.158092Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Free_Idealist @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup no. your question isnt as good as my data. i cited a meta analysis and a study of about 400 doctors
(DIR) Post #AAD3UegsDep2OZxxRo by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:13:43.285229Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo psychologists and IQ proponents
(DIR) Post #AAD3VN33IYhty6gI7s by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:14:05.094131Z
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@racerealist @NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo Any sources from actual scientists and not a bunch of Psychologists?
(DIR) Post #AAD3YjWKChiEX7ybdA by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:14:18.490982Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Free_Idealist @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup shut up science denier i dont care
(DIR) Post #AAD3Yjvqfo83oHuzPk by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:14:54.967045Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup I bet that nigger washes grease down the drain. Do you have any idea how bad that is for the sewer system? Fucking sucks, man.
(DIR) Post #AAD3fiOqli0x5KoFay by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:15:05.342553Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup ok
(DIR) Post #AAD3fiqV6u8GT5kKh6 by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:16:10.675332Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup No, it's not okay. People have to clean that shit out, and we're running out of people willing to do that job. Once that happens sewers will stop functioning. :c
(DIR) Post #AAD3h5TkRlRCx8krWy by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:15:41.060631Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo IQ proponents? well yes undoubtedly
(DIR) Post #AAD3iZYY6ZwWWfhzmq by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:14:55.632106Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo Sean is a chemist for starters and also you do realize IQ is a psychological construct right. created by psychologists. psychologists argue for its validity
(DIR) Post #AAD3ia6w2jRsFJnSNs by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:16:33.081523Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo Yeah that was a hundred years ago when the field was credible, unlike its modern obviously comprised state.
(DIR) Post #AAD3nk5wLmn6etnBGC by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:16:49.964103Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Free_Idealist @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @mushroom_soup ok. go to the moon with that then
(DIR) Post #AAD3oduWpOw9lisrFQ by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T08:17:45.374079Z
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@Eris well, in the stock trading example, how much money you make is your job performance. For other jobs that are less directly defined you have a lot more room for faggot cope heuristics of "performance" that could artificially close the gap between smart and dumb people's job performance.Also not all jobs are about being smart in the first place. A good janitor doesn't need to be smart, just diligent. A good boxer doesn't need to be smart either, he just needs to be able to punch you in the face really hard.So there are multiple issues with the "job performance" stuff that makes it junk data. What job performance means varies by job. What job performance means in many jobs is subjective. Not all jobs are about being smart. So yeah. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe IQ doesn't correlate very strongly with "job performance" in a profession-ambiguous study.But I still want the 140 IQ doctor because being a doctor is in no small part about being smart. So much for "IQ doesn't predict 'job performance'"@djsumdog @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @racerealist @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD3r4k82NL7ZCBBVA by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:17:20.136893Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo haha lol sure. dont read my sources or arguments thenhey btw sean still isnt a psychologist
(DIR) Post #AAD43WFJbjOuLBhTea by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:19:52.353723Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo ok dumbass
(DIR) Post #AAD4988y8H6FKHPK4m by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:20:51.535075Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo youre dumb and willfully ignorant
(DIR) Post #AAD4HO5oiYnf6ls2FM by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:18:53.349274Z
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@NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo you still cant read and you still have no sourcesThere is evidence that IQ is irrelevant to becoming a doctor and that it did not predict dropping out of the program, career outcome, amount of research publications published, or stress, burnout and satisfaction with taking a career in medicine (McManus et al, 2003). Diplomas, higher academic degrees, and research publications were significantly correlated with personality.McManus et al (2003) write: Intelligence did not independently predict dropping off the register, career outcome, or other measures. … Intelligence does not predict careers, thus rejecting the ability argument. A levels predict because they assess achievement, and the structural model shows how past achievements predict future achievement.And on the causes for dropping out: All 511 students registered with the General Medical Council, but only 464 were on the 2001 Medical Register. The 47 doctors who left the register (a mean of 11.1 years after qualifying; SD 5.9; range 2-23) had lower A level grades but not lower AH5 scores (table A, bmj.com); see bmj.com for ROC analysis. Two doctors subsequently returned to the register. Of the remainder, three had died, contact details were available for 35, and no information was available for seven.So lower intelligence scores were not the cause for dropping out.
(DIR) Post #AAD4HOXp2RCYVcyOtk by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T08:22:55.409516Z
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@racerealist >you still can't get read and you still have no sourcesAs a matter of fact I can read because I'm reading your dumbass posts. I don't need sources because my arguments are valid without them. You have sources out the wazoo and yet you're still wrong. How does that make you feel?@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD4Imc32TgJRdbzQO by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:22:19.573620Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo they arent useless. science isnt useless
(DIR) Post #AAD4LW1l9vfIsJwPSq by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:22:16.982720Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo You are entirely free to summarized them in a concise manner, asking people to read an academic paper, especially a social science academic paper is rather ridiculous given the state of modern scholarship in general.
(DIR) Post #AAD4ShWIpPVYXueaLw by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:25:01.920149Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo This is us. Me on the left.
(DIR) Post #AAD4V19Ep4cY04yCOW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:25:27.074062Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo i already did numerous timeshigh correlations for IQ that are often reported are only obtained thru meta-analysis. which is not without its criticism. for a meta-analysis to be valid, it must adhere to specific criteria which IQ research doesnt meet.the raw correlations for job performance and iq are about .3. with meta analysis they are about .6. the issue being that the studies pooled in the meta analysis were of varying methodologies (no carefully randomized sample, low sample size of less than 90 people, they used old studies that were missing data) which is a no-go in meta-analysis. the result is an artificial inflation of the correlationmeanwhile, more recent meta analyses of studies with better sample sizes and no missing data show a much lower correlation at 0.06
(DIR) Post #AAD4YUYrv9s85pcCh6 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:26:04.733970Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo you need it for complex and misunderstood phenomena. thats how we figure shit out
(DIR) Post #AAD4Z8oAHhsIur4z5c by RikaDerufu@shitposter.club
2021-08-11T08:26:12.066157Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist :watamelon: :watamelon: :watamelon: :watamelon: ok I leave now by
(DIR) Post #AAD4acKa0MsGljwekS by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:26:27.802916Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10888691.2014.983635
(DIR) Post #AAD4b5FGVCr2RegJzU by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T08:26:29.676892Z
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@Eris implying you aren't doing science by looking up. This conflation of "science" with "academic science" is hilarious. It's like they think only people who go to universities and wear lab coats make guesses and test them.@djsumdog @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @racerealist @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD4cWprPM0eIvUIt6 by RikaDerufu@shitposter.club
2021-08-11T08:26:48.802153Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist :watamelon :watamelon: :watamelon: :watamelon: :watamelon: ok I leave now bye
(DIR) Post #AAD4crs3CPEtXnfqiW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:26:52.162768Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta-analysis
(DIR) Post #AAD4fIXj0HhaqUKFV2 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:27:18.495715Z
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@NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo you didnt read their arguments nor my summary. all you did was lazily guess and assert shit while doing no research of your own
(DIR) Post #AAD4i2aQmksUE6toJs by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:27:48.345252Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170818/
(DIR) Post #AAD4jrCw3yE5Vxm8sy by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:28:07.940981Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo no one here cares about science? ok then
(DIR) Post #AAD4l9oyLOBdX6BeHQ by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:28:22.089331Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo psychologists do so i mean
(DIR) Post #AAD4nP7uPSvRa57Eau by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:28:46.463260Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo scientists do
(DIR) Post #AAD4pboqBs4lWcFROS by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:29:10.314679Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo bro they literally invented IQ
(DIR) Post #AAD4r04PVjd71oC5bM by Heiho@kiwifarms.cc
2021-08-11T08:29:10.447182Z
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@Eris @racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo what're you guys even arguing about lol
(DIR) Post #AAD4r0aJb79Ocl7ZKa by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:29:25.429893Z
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@Heiho @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo seanamcclure.medium.com/intelligence-complexity-and-the-failed-science-of-iq-4fb17ce3f12
(DIR) Post #AAD4tgF7gUpiP6TzLU by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:29:54.527930Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo bro you are defending IQ i am criticising it
(DIR) Post #AAD4xd5LMnaLlin8cK by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:29:50.144184Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo Do believe that these recent studies are free from bias? Because the general thrust of your argument indicates to me that a bunch of cranks are raising spurious objections based on minor technical issues rather than serious engagement with the historic literature.
(DIR) Post #AAD4xdf9DgE1YlXjQO by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:30:37.225920Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo i gave you my summary. if you wanna know that read the studies for yourself tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10888691.2014.983635seanamcclure.medium.com/intelligence-complexity-and-the-failed-science-of-iq-4fb17ce3f12
(DIR) Post #AAD53WwT7TxOSBSDb6 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:31:41.278167Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo IQ does not predict job performance. its that simple
(DIR) Post #AAD53hu2MrY2RpOvpo by Heiho@kiwifarms.cc
2021-08-11T08:31:30.067105Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo Just read like two messages, what the fuck why're you guys so autistic
(DIR) Post #AAD54XGpNt57lHSLwG by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:31:52.213749Z
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@Heiho @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo seanamcclure.medium.com/intelligence-complexity-and-the-failed-science-of-iq-4fb17ce3f12
(DIR) Post #AAD56ZGquxy6XqR9TE by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T08:32:09.967979Z
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@racerealist >you didnt read their arguments nor my summaryThat's because I didn't need to do either. I looked at their conclusions and compared them to reality and immediately discovered that their arguments were bullshit. The only utility I can think of in reading them is to find a new way to not think, since whatever thought process they were using leads to some really wacky ideas.For example, maybe I shouldn't use ambiguous non-heuristics like "job performance" even I'm trying to be objective. @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD59lQGC78r6MMSci by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:32:48.837016Z
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@NEETzsche lol sure. if they said IQ predicted job performance and therefore was useful and valid then you wouldnt be saying this
(DIR) Post #AAD5BlpjdbCKxHEYXw by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:33:10.471669Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo ok, that has nothing to do with my arguments or the data/studies i cited
(DIR) Post #AAD5IVR30Joo7ktk6C by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:33:15.822009Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo Yes it does, the historical literature shows that there is .5-.6 correlation
(DIR) Post #AAD5IW0qrCSTuneKuG by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:34:23.661376Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo yes and that literature has issues which ive already gone over. they poorly apply meta analysis to artificially inflate the correlations and pool bad studies with low sample sizes and missing datasee: tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10888691.2014.983635and: seanamcclure.medium.com/intelligence-complexity-and-the-failed-science-of-iq-4fb17ce3f12
(DIR) Post #AAD5KuiZyTNL7HFLc0 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:34:49.784974Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo because they are important to the question of IQ's scientific validity regardless of whether you feel they are or not
(DIR) Post #AAD5NYZ0nfAVH621T6 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:35:18.437690Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo its impossible to take scientific arguments seriously when you do not value science, yes
(DIR) Post #AAD5QrdiKhjlJ2oAl6 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:35:54.318199Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo scientific validity is actualy validity is validity
(DIR) Post #AAD5SLJhTmOPdc9UKu by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:36:10.399433Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo yes and something you clearly dont understand
(DIR) Post #AAD5VZLNmcZi0kTej2 by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:36:45.341903Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo NEWS FLASH NIGGER:NO ONE CARES. No one cares about scientists. Not a fucking soul on earth. Not even you. People only pretend to care about scientists because they think it lends them some sort of legitimacy. If you were actually interested in knowing shit about science, you wouldn't be here arguing about stupid shit. You'd be reading your precious fucking studies or, better yet, writing one of your own. But you're not.
(DIR) Post #AAD5WSgC2wtxdDdYIa by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:36:28.219473Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo I'm sorry but your going to have to better than two psychologists and a Software Developer to undermine the exiting literature in any serious capacity.
(DIR) Post #AAD5WT7qO91H0yZdOi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:36:54.898522Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo maybe read their arguments. with your eyes and brain. then explain to me how and why they are wrong
(DIR) Post #AAD5bLdrdi4lFjsTEe by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:37:47.950514Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo >People only pretend to care about scientists because they think it lends them some sort of legitimacy.haha this describes your type perfectly. if science proved your little race fantasies youd be tugging your dick to it
(DIR) Post #AAD5dXaiBSMYtLRsCe by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T08:38:08.236003Z
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@racerealist >if they said that job performance correlates to IQ you wouldn't be saying thisYes I would. You watched me naturally arrive at the conclusion that "job performance" means fuck all. I started at thinking the numbers were fudged and then realized that they don't need to fudge the numbers because the numbers don't mean anything in the first place since they're ambiguous and subjective. You might as well be testing to see if IQ correlates to dice roll outcomes. I'm able to arrive at this conclusion naturally and without intervention because I actually think about the things that are presented to me. I do not need a citation to form thoughts. They occur spontaneously.@Eris @djsumdog @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD5gvrIPkPJ1ap5Cy by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:38:48.577455Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo Fantasies?
(DIR) Post #AAD5ntsIBltItmbyjo by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:40:04.141299Z
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@NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo hahaha what a non-argument
(DIR) Post #AAD5qFKJOzSc0fpu2i by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:40:29.519960Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo yeah. fantasies. fabrications. you made them up. whatever helps you stroke your shit
(DIR) Post #AAD5x5SSUXuVQiuObg by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:41:43.706454Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Free_Idealist @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo never said it wasnt
(DIR) Post #AAD5yCWPiL4ZcyI1qq by mushroom_soup@neckbeard.xyz
2021-08-11T08:41:54.744442Z
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@Free_Idealist @djsumdog @NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @racerealist @freemo this nigga never heard of a fatberg before
(DIR) Post #AAD60PpHDiZ3T9AWm0 by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:41:49.199639Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo I have and I find them unconvincing, you can criticize something easily if you try hard enough but IQ has been in use in multiple different organisations with much more serious backgrounds and interests than the ones you have provided to their great benefit (and disastrous results when running contrary). They are wrong simply because they are insufficient, they do not come from a place of rigorous objectivity but instead from places of partisan political activity and proved tools require more than meta data nit-picking to disprove.
(DIR) Post #AAD645p9WrwGamreEa by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:42:59.726118Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo why not contest a specific one of their claims? perhaps quote them? put in some effort?
(DIR) Post #AAD66T3m6rypEhptw0 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:43:25.443597Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Free_Idealist @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo my man i imagine the hitler icon wasnt talking about just the existence of race
(DIR) Post #AAD69FornHqf2ZBwDQ by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:43:55.662026Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Free_Idealist @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo the nazis werent simply aware of the existence of race. theres a whollle other ideology there
(DIR) Post #AAD69IssOpq2Xs5gNk by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:43:56.163289Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo What fantasies? Nigger I might be a fucking schizo, but my thoughts on race are objectively true. Here's a quick summary: Niggers are dumb, kikes are evil, curryniggers are a mix of both, and spics are lil' bandits. That's the truth as I've lived it, and no fancy gay nerd in a lab coat can convince me otherwise.
(DIR) Post #AAD6CRPBAuwtqEhDfM by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:44:30.251194Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo once again, if science suggested these things youd be sucking those labcoat cocks
(DIR) Post #AAD6EnY5oepV69zOpU by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:44:55.811058Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo perhaps show how that is. perhaps quote them with a point or a rebuttal
(DIR) Post #AAD6GMfuhfimKVOVzE by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:45:12.764174Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @Free_Idealist @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo what do you think the nazis thought
(DIR) Post #AAD6I04BjS9Qn2WpLU by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:45:30.461857Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo Nope, I'd still be calling them gay nerds and not listening to them, because they're gay nerds regardless of what they think.
(DIR) Post #AAD6JP7O4nP6m9h6uW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:45:45.754214Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo hahaha sure man
(DIR) Post #AAD6LNIxmz9bjO34tM by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:46:06.945054Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo Seethe, cope, and kys, gay nerd.
(DIR) Post #AAD6Lwq9fZV5wSqZzE by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:45:19.964562Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo Because I find the whole effort dishonest. Until I see a holistic approach to intelligence I have no reason to see this as anything other than politically motivated.
(DIR) Post #AAD6MSEKxiGPIROpU0 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:46:18.839129Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo you know, if you wanna call something politically motivated you have to show some kind of error they made in reasoning first
(DIR) Post #AAD6NcVWEmmxSZzZGC by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T08:46:28.618823Z
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@racerealist no you fucking moron, you are the one making the non-argument. I'm the only person in this conversation with an actual science background and I'm telling you now professional scientists do not sperg out like this. Real scientists make up heuristics. Real scientists tinker with things. Real scientists ignore the contents of scientific papers because they think they're bullshit. They do this all the time. Real scientists do not go about their day thinking that anything that gets past peer review needs to be taken at face value. They read abstracts and conclude the whole thing must be garbage all the time.Your obsession with citations is for midwits. Take that shit back to Reddit.@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD6Q8163d97lOxTV2 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:46:58.612248Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo except IQ doesnt correlate with success or lack thereof in doctorsnotpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/10/04/doctors-iq-and-job-performance/this is data. you have no source for your claims
(DIR) Post #AAD6QLiT7gZ2FgLnPM by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:46:35.173333Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo No I don't?
(DIR) Post #AAD6Vcs0lxUktyKXBI by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:47:58.280729Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo if IQ predicted job performance it would show that its measuring some kind of innate cognitive ability that allows you to perform better at a job no?
(DIR) Post #AAD6Wv4AbaktcqdNEu by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:48:12.264156Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo hahaha and you call black people dumb
(DIR) Post #AAD6blq4L9KCSHLrY8 by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:48:24.380519Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo That's the same study you linked previously but through a different source, please stop behaving dishonestly.
(DIR) Post #AAD6eo0WjXOe39grx2 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:49:37.809182Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo its actually not though. Richardson and Norgate never mention the study with doctorswhy the fuck is this important will you actually respond to what the articles or saying or just say you dont like the conclusions because youre totalllyy not biased
(DIR) Post #AAD6hAwMROPPkns7Mm by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:50:03.506801Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo imagine being so far up your own ass you think data and science dont matter
(DIR) Post #AAD6jaALcj88ZKYtM0 by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:50:29.633816Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD6lTIY82D5qeIasi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:50:49.981638Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo doesnt acknowledge any one of my arguments
(DIR) Post #AAD6mg3aB5nlhwsCSu by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:51:03.111281Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo I know lol
(DIR) Post #AAD6nOx5G6LEwpB95E by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:51:10.976076Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo ok
(DIR) Post #AAD6pnu3ShS4uZuKY4 by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:51:36.974701Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD6ttcS9SIJnXcrNQ by MoralPanic@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:52:21.414708Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo holy shit you're such a cocksucker, literally everybody on planet earth knows that niggers are dumb including niggers, you're not doing anybody any favors here, you're trying to gaslight people because it brings you some sick self satisfaction, you're like a tranny
(DIR) Post #AAD6txI2VILHBO6c76 by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:51:32.121908Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo In the vast majority of cases they don't though.
(DIR) Post #AAD6txjgqUSaZ92hDE by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:52:21.946262Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo whenever its convenient for you. if it goes against your view then it doesnt matter, if it supports your pov then its important. what a load of shit
(DIR) Post #AAD6vcJLTRaUhGVbwu by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:52:40.040143Z
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@MoralPanic @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo see:seanamcclure.medium.com/intelligence-complexity-and-the-failed-science-of-iq-4fb17ce3f12
(DIR) Post #AAD6wQnBmlAXGIr9PM by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:52:48.878170Z
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@racerealist @WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo >whenever its convenient for you. if it goes against your view then it doesnt matter, if it supports your pov then its importantyes
(DIR) Post #AAD6wyC9axkKrHn3Oy by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:52:54.758511Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo doesnt acknowledge any one of my arguments
(DIR) Post #AAD6y8uHFrp2MyzJAm by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:53:07.514952Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo you are a manchild
(DIR) Post #AAD6yjUhDwLPqMItw8 by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:53:13.858151Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo I know lol
(DIR) Post #AAD706HrxtacpBxMFE by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:53:28.604680Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo projection
(DIR) Post #AAD7218477SHPFHhz6 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:53:49.486068Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo science and data or i dont care
(DIR) Post #AAD72EEDPZ6C25GIsK by MoralPanic@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:53:51.719615Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo fuck you, I'm not interested in reading verbal snake oil, everybody intuitively knows you're full of shit, if that's not an argument you'll accept then it's you who has the problem
(DIR) Post #AAD76QHkWePgaKunTs by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:54:37.232302Z
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@MoralPanic @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo you are incapable of changing your view even in the face of contradictory evidence. you dont even wish to engage with it. youre not living in reality
(DIR) Post #AAD78egJyI47oVTMwK by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:54:20.405964Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo Its the idea of sufficient proof. IQ is not some fringe theory that can be disproved by some retards in a crumbling field doing most certainly fucking up. If you want me to take it seriously I'm going to need more than whining about how something "may" be wrong.
(DIR) Post #AAD78fCw129ZRejPm4 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:55:01.173709Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo >IQ>theorytheres your first mistake
(DIR) Post #AAD7BD0JKfw6qG2Z28 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:55:29.010400Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo in this case its absolutely important due to the complex nature of the brain
(DIR) Post #AAD7CY2ebG7yNYm6i0 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:55:43.648298Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo hahaha, it was multiple studies though
(DIR) Post #AAD7H4tUOklJQVeFw8 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:56:32.805271Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo science is important for quantifying things that are unknown and complex. thats how discoveries are made
(DIR) Post #AAD7I9OHAKbXf6Ym5Q by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:56:19.499789Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo ?
(DIR) Post #AAD7KL6EbQywYXAHqa by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:57:08.118711Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo Discoveries are made with our eyes, soyjack.
(DIR) Post #AAD7KVMCSvh8MwiB7Y by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:57:09.934839Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo IQ is not a theory. it doesnt even test a theory
(DIR) Post #AAD7MEgRQcSnEi0M1g by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:57:28.772639Z
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@Free_Idealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo become a doctor with just that then
(DIR) Post #AAD7NYrFuDpw5zh9Ga by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:57:43.119484Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo a cure for cancer would be nice
(DIR) Post #AAD7NbgNP7uur7d0E4 by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T08:57:40.507254Z
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@racerealist it's curious that you're willing to use a poorly-defined non-heuristic like "job performance" to attack IQ, which you previously attacked for being poorly defined, even though it's better defined than "job performance." It's almost like you want IQ to be hogwash and you're willing to make intellectual leniencies that you wouldn't for other things@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD7PEGJS454nXD77g by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:58:01.212939Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo Okay. Watch this.
(DIR) Post #AAD7RqibRWy4eBgzi4 by SneedsterSpeedster@kiwifarms.cc
2021-08-11T08:58:29.049726Z
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@NEETzsche @racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo Racerealist has sub 100 iq and is coping hard
(DIR) Post #AAD7SaoY3l3XbwpOMa by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:58:37.646718Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo Alright nigger what now
(DIR) Post #AAD7TtwqPEoxF8Kf2W by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:58:51.872965Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo if you read the article they used objective measures for job performance such as objective sales by a salesperson. in the case of doctors there was also dropping out and careers
(DIR) Post #AAD7VEzXeVIOnXEUGe by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T08:59:06.395541Z
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@SneedsterSpeedster @NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo doesnt acknowledge any of my arguments
(DIR) Post #AAD7clfUYlk0AaRZLs by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:00:27.978041Z
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@Eris @NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo haha you dont use anything to support any conclusion. you havent argued from a scientific perspective at all
(DIR) Post #AAD7iiODf8B5jsCU9w by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:01:32.466115Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo lol sure
(DIR) Post #AAD7ksA0J2QYcaa1bc by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T09:01:53.660401Z
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@racerealist >they used objective measures for success in doctors like "careers"Lmfao are you listening to yourself my nigga. What the fuck kind of heuristic is "careers"? What does that even mean? @djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD7lj7LPen8rgk9Jo by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:02:05.160699Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo they dont predict any job performancethe entire point of g is its supposed to be present in literally every cognitive function
(DIR) Post #AAD7n3rxk8nxW1BXMm by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:02:19.617717Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo read the article stupid ass
(DIR) Post #AAD7p8XtKOOob7mpUW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:02:42.132113Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo yeah for sure even though that isnt the same thing and theyre obviously not comparable
(DIR) Post #AAD7uE42EoHLA2FRpI by MoralPanic@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:03:37.167406Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo My views are based on lived experience not faggots studies, it's absurd of you to assume that I or any other racist base their ideology on so called science. I don't give a fuck about scientific evidence, I don't want to live alongside nigger or other non-whites, what now?
(DIR) Post #AAD7v09hR3KYJVGeJs by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:03:45.764772Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo g is supposed to be present in all cognitive functions. it logically follows that it would predict job performance in jobs that require what we assume to be intelligence. it doesnt
(DIR) Post #AAD7x5f1wC2dy1uzZ2 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:04:08.377814Z
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@MoralPanic @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo lol ok dumbass
(DIR) Post #AAD7yckeOPz6syHK0u by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:04:25.031894Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo the color of the sky is much better understood than the brain
(DIR) Post #AAD805nzr9jRHhXmMa by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:04:40.947292Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo you clearly dont know anything about the g factor
(DIR) Post #AAD82shb1wPDVwsbuC by MoralPanic@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:05:11.164713Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo Exactly, go eat shit, I don't need to justify my desire to continue my race and nation to anybody
(DIR) Post #AAD84hMw8c1Swb5CtM by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:05:30.879367Z
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@MoralPanic @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo i dont care ideologue
(DIR) Post #AAD85ccrG5cuWTyE7c by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:05:40.772805Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo I have accomplished more than you can even fathom
(DIR) Post #AAD87MQATheCqOrcKu by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:05:16.394381Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo Yes it does, that vast majority or literature states quite clearly it does.
(DIR) Post #AAD87MvMbibKP9SWxc by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:05:59.600659Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo you didnt read this or my summary did you tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10888691.2014.983635
(DIR) Post #AAD8Dxhgm7gQDBCsvg by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:06:53.191802Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo I have read the summary I just know its bunkum. A couple of cranks posting nonsense does not science make.
(DIR) Post #AAD8G9LkRiwQuVzHc0 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:07:35.012376Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo hahaha. i knowyoure all a bunch of ideologues. go read a biology textbook or somethingi will leave these hereseanamcclure.medium.com/intelligence-complexity-and-the-failed-science-of-iq-4fb17ce3f12tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10888691.2014.983635mitpress.mit.edu/books/reliability-cognitive-neurosciencegoodnight
(DIR) Post #AAD8GDzxABTjKMpRpo by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T09:07:32.833156Z
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@racerealist I don't need to have any understanding of the brain to understand that if you can do logic, remember things, and notice patterns, then you're smart, and if you can't, then you're dumb. This actually has basically nothing to do with the brain. Some Aztec who thinks all of your thoughts happen in your heart would have a similar understanding of what "intelligence" is.@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD8HC4dnssZeHU2TI by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:07:45.844044Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo for what ideology?
(DIR) Post #AAD8IGQD7jLhQI5CFs by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:07:57.989905Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo not a rebuttal
(DIR) Post #AAD8MXBqimJsaUOyA4 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:08:44.311552Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo missing the point about complexity and the burden of interpretation. educate yourselfi am going to bed now
(DIR) Post #AAD8NJjsDa3Z9ugorI by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:08:11.291816Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo Scientism and Neoliberalism obviously.
(DIR) Post #AAD8NKHuB3HKrSbzu4 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:08:52.640223Z
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@WaitingForMajorian @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo learn to read
(DIR) Post #AAD8SZtjZBeCitoIUK by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:09:49.757544Z
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@racerealist @NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo Don't wake up.
(DIR) Post #AAD8ayXPq6MdSYNKXA by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:11:09.328501Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo Hold that L chief.
(DIR) Post #AAD8hWoTJnFHV1TgUC by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T09:12:28.505187Z
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@racerealist this isn't an issue of "complexity", since we know what intelligence is. I do not need to quantify the inner workings of your mind to measure its intelligence.@djsumdog @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAD8pUezCtBT8eq5Hk by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:10:05.365882Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo You asked what you were an ideologue for and I gave you an answer dude.
(DIR) Post #AAD8popIEHJPgPob7w by MoralPanic@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:14:01.816474Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo Anti-ideology, you don't believe in anything, you're just a piece of human excrement floating in the existential toilet. Science is an abstract belief system that changes all the time, it's what you think gives you moral legitimacy because it's an alternative to religion but it's not. You have no answers, so you just sow doubt.
(DIR) Post #AAD9KiZxVTV3HhNPEW by Leitis@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:19:28.048927Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo Which is a problem with a job market, not intelligence. What does that tell you?
(DIR) Post #AAD9YUnHYXaaaKB6Z6 by Leitis@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:21:53.367004Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist It's a false premise that you get promoted for being intelligent. You get promoted for 'networking', which means you know people. Meritocracy is white supremacy, and white supremacy is not tolerated.
(DIR) Post #AAD9ZHfVqDUOAPv5l2 by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T09:22:15.009210Z
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@Eris @racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo what you don't want that diversity hire they let skate thru med school doing your brain surgery? come on iq is just a social construct
(DIR) Post #AAD9fKqovELvm55uwi by Leitis@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:15:08.815441Z
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@NEETzsche @racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo Real scientists read the title and the author.If the title is interesting, then you can read the abstract. If you know the Author, you know he's a midwit, which means you can disregard the paper, even if the title is interesting. Then you skim the abstract. Then you read the abstract if it's good. Then you read conclusions (some papers don't have conclusions)If A and C sounds workable and useful, then you read the middle, to find some interesting details. You're not going to find anything replicable or frankly speaking, useful or technical in that paper, so then you can move to the final step. Contact the author and talk to him about the subject. That's the contemporary scientific process. I guess redditors are wowed by the fact some people are capable of sustaining focus to read 120 IQ papers, with technical jargon in it, that's just there to boost self-esteem of the authors and the institution.
(DIR) Post #AAD9sxovLVv6Othpo0 by Leitis@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:24:34.073430Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist I wonder how much does 'job performance' correlates with 'Bar Mitzvah attendance'. Do we have a paper for that?
(DIR) Post #AADAD2KqGmcAC8CtGa by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T09:29:26.047622Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist there is a sort of war going on in the soft sciences where woke libtards are trying to erase the notion of intelligence and replace it with this cultural relativity where everyone is equal and any differences are explained by social inequality and systemic racism and and not biology
(DIR) Post #AADAFCb75LFabOqmES by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:29:49.257277Z
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@MoralPanic @racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo soyience is a belief system. science is a method through which man deduces through empiricism what most approximately resembles truth. soyience is gay fake dumbassery posing as a system of belief or ideology whilst piggybacking on science's good name. science is good but it becomes soyience when nihilistic retards try to make it more than it is. i will never forgive reddit faggots for ruining science's reputation by conflating it in the public consciousness with their lefty church bullshit.
(DIR) Post #AADAWpydvUVtetGV9c by Leitis@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:32:40.953474Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj Wait... The kikes are identified by a "K" haplogroup? That's funny
(DIR) Post #AADAmS5sUXTADe5wp6 by Some_German_Guy@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:35:49.831264Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @MoralPanic @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist i blame documentarys and "celebrity scientists"
(DIR) Post #AADAuTmc5vxjm6uaw4 by SneedsterSpeedster@kiwifarms.cc
2021-08-11T09:37:16.442449Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist Goyim cope
(DIR) Post #AADAuY20IeeMx08wTo by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:37:17.644977Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist god damn it eris it's like 5 in the morning and as much as i love you and find your unapologetic autism endearing i don't have time for all this shit lol
(DIR) Post #AADAx3OMfldQnEnULw by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:37:44.689434Z
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@Eris @Some_German_Guy @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist yeah that guy is a fag i even like carl sagan more than him
(DIR) Post #AADAxpRC2YPznuUQQS by TheEternalBungholio@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:37:32.205167Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @MoralPanic @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist Gotta ask, which did more damage? R*ddit or IFLS?
(DIR) Post #AADB2RTuXIWox9xdMu by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:38:43.042322Z
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@TheEternalBungholio @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist i dunno what ifls is
(DIR) Post #AADBBvYs4JsKqontjc by Some_German_Guy@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:40:25.942389Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist dont forget this freak
(DIR) Post #AADBP39V9pFM9rC8Ce by TheEternalBungholio@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:40:26.217156Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist The infamous Facebook page I Fucking LOVE Science:thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=youre_not_a_nerdYes, I know Cuckox is now a persona non grata, but he kinda nailed it with this article.
(DIR) Post #AADBR86nhUjg6pvIP2 by SneedsterSpeedster@kiwifarms.cc
2021-08-11T09:43:10.340465Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist >Not being choosen by G-D
(DIR) Post #AADBeBNmq6161n5mhE by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:45:32.501824Z
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@TheEternalBungholio @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist i was a maddox fan way back in the day lol
(DIR) Post #AADBlQQ7KPfWh2dUAK by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:46:50.857060Z
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@Some_German_Guy @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist yeah black science man is an annoying retard too. so many midwits posing as public intellectuals these days and granted legitimacy by TPTB it's fucking shameful.
(DIR) Post #AADBqJxam3U06bczuS by TheEternalBungholio@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:47:09.698056Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist We all were. Then the appeal of his little proto-blog lost its novelty and he just became a sad and tired internet has-been.
(DIR) Post #AADC0HaESw0Bd7S4Ia by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:49:32.175442Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @TheEternalBungholio @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist it was good. it's actually kind of endearing that it hasn't changed.
(DIR) Post #AADCLrO6XbJiky4H9k by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:53:26.088586Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @Some_German_Guy @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist ngl for all hitchens' flaws the guy had boatloads of charisma and was utterly fearless. dawkins and dennet can get fucked. still kinda have a soft spot for harris even if he's too smart to realize when he's being retarded.
(DIR) Post #AADClZazJYkX6WM4XY by TheEternalBungholio@poa.st
2021-08-11T09:56:55.321368Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist Dynastia from Kiwifarms had the best take:kiwifarms.net/threads/maddox-george-ouzounian-george-schnoz.24527/page-45#post-2772633Maddox was a product of his time, and he was undeniably funny. His dumb, outrageously arrogant persona struck a chord with almost all of us. Web 1.0 was the era of the personal page, before facebook, before even livejournal and MySpace came out it was a wasteland of geocities and angelfire pages made by Steve Nobody from the ass-end of nowhere about his shit kids and his passion for collecting vintage jazz vinyls. Maddox came along with his own personal page that was just "Fuck you I'm a pirate and your kids are shit" and it was as fucking refreshing as when the Simpsons burst onto a network television roster dominated by feelgood all-american sitcoms like Full House.And the late 90s were a weird time for masculine identity in general. There was none of this dangerhair vs neckbeard culture war bullshit going on, but it was still weird, especially if you were a confused teenage boy. It was just fucking weird. The media was shilling the ideal of the 'Sensitive New Age Guy', trannies weren't really a mainstream thing and yet Marilyn Manson had a fuckin boob job, people were wearing eyeliner and deliberately taking ketamine even though they weren't desperate heroin addicts trying to induce a coma to wait out a smack drought. It was fucking weird. When a guy came out saying 'Hey pirates are badass and it's okay to just want to eat meat jerky and look at boobies and bottle up all your feelings with alcoholism', it was exactly what a bunch of us wanted to hear. That we were okay. That we could fart and eat meat jerky and not ever have to talk to our girlfriends about our feelings.
(DIR) Post #AADFHvRFq0y81YMBEW by reloadedAK@poa.st
2021-08-11T10:25:04.822139Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @Some_German_Guy @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist I dont really feel like being charitable to a Jewish intellectual
(DIR) Post #AADFHw4xSOjC0gvt7Q by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T10:26:20.206147Z
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@reloadedAK @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @Some_German_Guy @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist meh, well then don't be. i have no emotional investment in how other people feel about the guy.
(DIR) Post #AADNcj1G0Uy9DkcrFw by Leitis@poa.st
2021-08-11T11:59:33.495667Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj I knew that one. Oy vey, shut it down
(DIR) Post #AADVBCoSRPM79I1ltw by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T13:24:24.292350Z
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@meowski @RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo you cant readseanamcclure.medium.com/intelligence-complexity-and-the-failed-science-of-iq-4fb17ce3f12
(DIR) Post #AADVLMhqVqOyjDmO3s by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T13:26:14.474100Z
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@MoralPanic lol
(DIR) Post #AADVPBqCqouWBmVuUq by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T13:26:56.052788Z
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@NEETzsche you havent linked any kind of source or made any argument for any scientific validity of IQ
(DIR) Post #AADVRoZrnhgyuJ7f9s by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T13:27:24.465335Z
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@WaitingForMajorian you never responded to a single argument. not one.
(DIR) Post #AADXX2IARC7mnYSeum by WaitingForMajorian@poa.st
2021-08-11T13:49:39.816611Z
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@racerealist So? You are the one trying to contradict scientific consensus here not me, I am under no obligation to take your quackery anymore seriously than that of a flat earther, which your studies do not rise above. Present a holistic argument about intelligence, preferably in your own words, or fuck off. No one is interested in wasting their time fiddling through three unqualified dipshits "umm actually if you look at it like this" meandering nonsense to disprove their patently false thesis.
(DIR) Post #AADXX2sgFRKccnXopM by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T13:50:45.496614Z
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@WaitingForMajorian not a rebuttal
(DIR) Post #AADXiYyNGu8HLDhRpY by 9zbVLJj7aZW1OP4Tiq.verita84@rage.lol
2021-08-11T13:52:49.317596Z
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@snow I lost link, my post has the pdf
(DIR) Post #AADavyix8kGkpnZiLY by snow@wintermute.fr.to
2021-08-11T14:28:52.725802Z
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@verita84 iddqd.social blocked many ppl, I even saw more posts in the thread in my instance than his instance.
(DIR) Post #AADeJchyweg1Mn5TPM by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T15:06:43.312339Z
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@racerealist yes I have made arguments for its scientific validity, you just ignored them. Cope.
(DIR) Post #AADhCh5Ea1tGlrLnzk by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T15:39:06.181700Z
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@racerealist I have, as a matter of fact, made arguments for the scientific validity of IQ. You just didn’t like it. My argument relied on zero sources, so I didn’t cite any.@Eris @djsumdog @meowski @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @freemo
(DIR) Post #AADiNPzSZXRMtgKMV6 by Its_Not_Gay_If_Bore_Soy_Does_it@poa.st
2021-08-11T15:52:16.381762Z
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@NEETzsche Yeah, fuck sources.
(DIR) Post #AADjiMcEPjjySy0vp2 by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-08-11T16:07:15.241478Z
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@meowski @RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @racerealist That statement makes me think about this post I wrote about nine years ago. It’s basically about how equality isn’t intrinsic; we are not really created equal, but having the equality of opportunity is something we should value:https://battlepenguin.com/philosophy/society/created-equal/I’m not sure if I entirely agree with all parts of it any more. Back then I didn’t understand the differences between equality of opportunity vs outcome (even though I use the word opportunity directory in the post). I think I still believe in the general direction I was going, but the modern implementation of reverse racism and critical-race-theory, is the completely wrong lens to address inequality.
(DIR) Post #AADlY5A0enkLLI2SG0 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T03:17:11.543662Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @djsumdog @freemo @natsock already addressed notpoliticallycorrect.me/2019/12/08/the-worlds-smartest-man-on-koko-the-gorillas-iq/
(DIR) Post #AADlY5o4FrmzLWmRhA by ConscientiousPoster@poa.st
2021-08-11T16:27:48.009594Z
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@racerealist @LorgarAurelian1488 I know that website. Read a blog post on there that tried to claim that niggers would be K-strategists and not r-strategists and didn't explain why. Came off as someone who intentionally spreads disinformation just to spread chaos, so I stopped reading.
(DIR) Post #AADuG8uUsMwdLaIrp2 by tengumatingpress@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:05:25.205768Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @meowski @racerealist People really make too much out of things they can't control tbh. Not all men are born equal, just try living a good life with whatever you've got and you'll be fine.
(DIR) Post #AADuXnj0NhNkr2LeQy by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T18:08:37.002469Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo i read this last night. it was pretentious garbagelet me summarize: "but muh complexity" (crying scientist noises)nobody is saying that IQ is intended to describe the complexity of the human mind or that it captures all the nuances of intelligenceyou can measure how fast cars go without knowing anything about how the engine worksas i said it's only ever intended to be a GENERAL INDICATOR of intelligence and a lot of effort has gone into making it that- especially in removing cultural bias. frankly your posts read like you're twacked out on aderall- why are you fighting this idea of measuring intelligence so hard?
(DIR) Post #AADvQ64gNEjxP0NUXY by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:18:25.439389Z
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@ConscientiousPoster @LorgarAurelian1488 you clearly didnt read his post. ecologists have since abandoned r/k, and that refutation wasnt written by the blogpost writer. it was written by an ecologist years prior
(DIR) Post #AADvUribB2xAKEK2DI by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:19:16.818253Z
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@meowski @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo non argument. IQ has no scientific validity
(DIR) Post #AADvYuMdHZWRgmyXK4 by JSDorn@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:20:00.086217Z
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@racerealist @meowski @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo kike
(DIR) Post #AADvaAwp6solPcVXYu by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:20:14.252288Z
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@JSDorn @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski not a response
(DIR) Post #AADvaodjXHJaVzsrMO by JSDorn@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:20:21.236303Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski kike
(DIR) Post #AADvdcqVqEvOo1CWR6 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:20:51.860299Z
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@racerealist @meowski @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo if it has "no scientific validity" then explain why everyone in this thread has a higher IQ than you
(DIR) Post #AADvflnFXwLD8PhIJc by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:21:15.215422Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski thats not scientific validity
(DIR) Post #AADvqZVLZm7gCuTSQi by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:23:12.304693Z
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@racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski sure it is. you're a midwit with terrible reading comprehension and analytic skills, and it shows in the test
(DIR) Post #AADvy8v6IiOY4b89BY by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:24:34.198861Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski except you clearly dont understand scientific validity and why its important. you have no argument. youve said nothing this entire time. you just assumed and asserted stupid shit. you clearly dont care and your views on this are presupposed. contrary evidence and arguments are something you cant even acknowledge because you are that fucking dumb. go read a biology textbook
(DIR) Post #AADw7hPNRYMxdvqgZE by JSDorn@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:26:18.067443Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski no
(DIR) Post #AADwASUbM99aFeblx2 by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T18:26:46.902456Z
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@racerealist I, as a matter of fact, did demonstrate scientific validity, but you’re back to square one the next day:The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. [He] had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn’t know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.@djsumdog @meowski @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @freemo
(DIR) Post #AADwIutXdoSGekJ5Zg by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T18:28:20.278293Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo tell that to all the thousands of psychologists worldwide who have refined the testing methodology over the past 100 years.IQ tests measure one thing: how well you can do on an IQ test. take what you want from that. you obviously are very sensitive about this but i think just outright dismissing it is not rational.IQ tests mostly just look at pattern recognition and abstraction sure, they don't account for the savants who can instantly tell you what day january 1 falls on in the year 5388, but can't tie their own shoes. they don't measure artistic or musical genius or how good you are at basketball. they don't measure lots of things and they aren't intended to. they do have some correlation with your overall abilities to do certain common tasks and when you look at how IQ correlates with certain careers, it's pretty well stratified. you are not going to find a lot of 70 IQ mathematicians or engineers or programmers, nor will you find many 140 IQs flipping burgerswhen you obsess on the lack of nuance, and inability to capture the complexity of the mind, you're entirely missing the point
(DIR) Post #AADwKeKsB8tXsUuvWy by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:28:37.695476Z
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@racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski nigger you're literally incapable of understanding the difference between intelligence, "job performance ability" in the abstract, and general adaptive fitness, and you're such a retard that you don't understand there is no such thing as "job performance ability" in the abstract, or that even if there was, the extent to which intelligence impacts job performance is heavily mediated by the particular job you're talking aboutand you're so pig fucking ignorant that you actually think "medical doctor" is a heavily g-loaded profession, instead of being a glorified plumberdo you have any of your bullshit "studies" showing that IQ bears no relation to the "job performance" of Fields Medal mathematicians or nuclear physicists?
(DIR) Post #AADwWqROztJstfmofQ by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:30:50.212552Z
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@meowski @racerealist in order to understand this guy you have to understand that he scored 105 but expected to score 130 at least
(DIR) Post #AADwiBZWlyWtcRzjQu by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T18:32:54.270664Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo medical doctor also doesn't happen to be one of the professions that normally contains the most intelligent people- it's up there but lower than mathematicians and engineers and programmers iirc. i've looked into this before. doctors are a bad example. becoming a doctor requires a lot of dedication, money, hard work, ability to memmorize information, and most of all blind obedience to authority.there are a lot of really dumb doctors out there though.
(DIR) Post #AADwp4tpylUWx5mTs8 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:34:06.222780Z
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@meowski @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist he's such a fucking retard he doesn't understand that memory is basically not correlated to intelligence
(DIR) Post #AADwpnlZAMc66TG0jA by PrettyHateMachine@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:34:14.846186Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @meowski @racerealist the retard/genius alliance vindicated again
(DIR) Post #AADwxA6EWu5nOcQxFY by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T18:35:33.180512Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj Last I checked, ability to recall long strings of random letters/numbers – i.e., memory – was part of IQ tests. Not the only part or the most important, but if I recall it was there.@djsumdog @meowski @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @racerealist @freemo
(DIR) Post #AADx6yYyHELKVoYUSG by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T18:37:22.478574Z
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@NEETzsche @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski @racerealist this is actually an interesting and subtle point and I'm glad you brought it upthe ability to recall random strings of numbers is a recall test and not used as part of intelligence-testing batterieshowever, give someone a random string of numbers, and ask them to repeat it BACKWARDS, and suddenly you have an intelligence test. and yes this is often used as part of batteries
(DIR) Post #AADxCfEH4YXAHqaRhg by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T18:38:22.577095Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @djsumdog @meowski @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @racerealist @freemo Oh right, I forgot they wanted you to reverse them. I haven’t taken an IQ test in many years and haven’t read the methods they use, so yeah.
(DIR) Post #AADy77lc9mqF0n6Uam by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T18:48:36.982432Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist there is obviously some memory component to intelligence, but IQ tests are not focused on recalling acquired knowledge of topics such as history or biology or chemistryit's just trying to measure your ability to identify patterns and solve abstract problems. of course it's imperfect and is always going to have some bias. they're neat tests though- i've taken a handful of themi recently took one of those online IQ test (a short test and not very good) and got 100% of the questions correct, but only scored a 131 iirc. i was pretty annoyed about that and made a post here about iti believe for the more advanced questions it's not actually supposed to be timed, but whatever. anyway, i don't take it too seriously- it's just a number, like a letter grade on a test in school.some people would argue that letter grades on school tests are also invalid. these are the people who are removing all requirements to graduate high school because certain groups consistently score lower.so rather than address the underlying problem- stop measuring it. problem solved?
(DIR) Post #AADzfCZAv3R7hG6Ak4 by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T19:05:58.883939Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist there are a lot of the "what would the next number in this sequence be" questions where you're expected to derive an equation by looking at the number sequence (involves short term memory).i don't remember any questions that are explicitly testing your ability to recall a string of numbers though.
(DIR) Post #AAE2oXo9c2Yw2rFe1A by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T19:41:16.653191Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski if you didnt read a single one of my sources and if you wont provide any of your own, then dont bother replyingthe low correlations were consistent across all job families, i had already pointed that outeverything you mention here is acknowledged in Richardson and Norgate's article. if you were aware of IQ research at all, you would know intelligence researchers frequently cite .6 correlations with job performance as proof of its predictive validity. yet you act as if that doesnt matter. have fun arguing with those who conduct the test, i guessassertions. learn to use a search engine
(DIR) Post #AAE3xqmaXBBtSFWJrk by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T19:54:09.724472Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @meowski Do you have a source on that?Source?A source. I need a source.Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.Do you have a degree in that field?A college degree? In that field?Then your arguments are invalid.No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.Correlation does not equal causation.CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.Nope, still haven't.I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.
(DIR) Post #AAE4Gf7U7YismiGTJo by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T19:57:33.416004Z
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@racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowskiAre people with an IQ of 107 and 170 equally likely to be aeronautical engineers, yes or no
(DIR) Post #AAE4ScKYJiStbp4s40 by merchantHelios@poa.st
2021-08-11T19:59:43.502565Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski it just now struck me the irony of this thread considering his username is "race realist"
(DIR) Post #AAE4XIT5albfSHImdE by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T20:00:34.306254Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski if this were true, we'd have a correlation with IQ and job performance that fluctuates depending on job family. there are obviously many factors that contribute to someones ability to be an engineerdo your own research
(DIR) Post #AAE4XayEnhDYq60ugK by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T20:00:37.779143Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo you are obviously not familiar with the pioneering work of the nigerian space agency
(DIR) Post #AAE4Yz7mTxx22b8kUq by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T20:00:52.327989Z
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@meowski @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo irrelevant
(DIR) Post #AAE4aOui5HmeJXhYLA by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T20:01:08.341217Z
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@merchantHelios @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo it's some kind of troll
(DIR) Post #AAE4d3VE98RKmI321o by merchantHelios@poa.st
2021-08-11T20:01:35.847653Z
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@meowski @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo surely
(DIR) Post #AAE4uKVGBxpsQXIgGu by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-11T20:04:38.522684Z
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@racerealist >if this were true, we’d have a correlation with IQ and job performance No. This has been addressed ad nauseam. “Job performance” isn’t an indicator of intelligence because not all jobs are oriented around being smart, and in fact most are not. Try again.@djsumdog @meowski @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @freemo
(DIR) Post #AAE4xK58DPS9zMVRMu by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T20:05:16.922080Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo you're attacking a straw man. the very study that your cited analyses were trying to deboonk even says in the abstract that job experience is as good a predictor as "ability"job performance is subjective. a smart person can have a shitty job and do badly at it. try looking at "career success" instead.
(DIR) Post #AAE5hhGYLhrdDKxeoy by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T20:13:39.034571Z
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@racerealist @meowski @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemoDoes a higher IQ improve your ability to perform as a particle physicist, yes or no
(DIR) Post #AAE60QdkO7GN9Tk4f2 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T20:17:00.508671Z
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@racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowskiThis is a really hamfisted and stupid and obvious attempt to change the subject. Obviously there are more 170 IQ aeronautical engineers than 107 Iq aeronautical engineers (if there are any of the latter, which there probably aren't), and you know it.Why is this?
(DIR) Post #AAE7T6j7bW3XkBUkZE by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T20:33:26.099841Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo the fields that people work in is where you clearly see the IQ stratification. "race realist" is stuck on this job performance thing and i think it's pretty subjective (although i'm sure it's also somewhat correlated, just very confounded by other factors)job performance = how much your superiors approve. this is often not related to intelligence, sometimes inversely related. some fields specifically select for lower iq individuals, so if you're too smart, you'll have worse performance (ie police depts who literally screen out high iq applicants)
(DIR) Post #AAE7drvwwddZ37cufI by CoQ_10@poa.st
2021-08-11T20:33:53.347468Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski Probably, but I'd be careful about Boeing.
(DIR) Post #AAE7dsP1CYtCVHE7yS by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T20:35:22.675354Z
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@CoQ_10 @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist boeing has taken the position that "1000 monkeys working on 1000 computers will write the perfect flight control software" i'm pretty skeptical
(DIR) Post #AAEA4rUKuOHlOYi3Oa by ConscientiousPoster@poa.st
2021-08-11T21:02:39.131292Z
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@racerealist @LorgarAurelian1488 I read his post, it was bad and contradicts itself blatantly.
(DIR) Post #AAEBwhuuoIxtImNgw4 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T21:23:35.838600Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski you are clearly all unfamiliar with intelligence research. not only are correlations with job performance frequently cited at .6 as proof of predictive validity for IQ by intelligence researchers and proponents (see Lisa Gotfredson, Charles Murray, Sean Last, Kirkegaard, Zeke etc.) but psychologists have successfully used these alleged correlations to influence public policy. with IQ testing being used to screen potential employeesyou are all proponents of intelligence research yet your opinions on the matter are completely fringe. you are, without evidence, asserting this issue doesnt matter when it clearly does to everyone who actually studies the damn field of IQ and intelligence.again, ill say it again. the correlation was consistent regardless of the job. if what you were saying were accurate, the correlation would fluctuate depending on how much "intelligence" the job requires. we do not see thatIQ is an outcome and not a cause. finding ppl in x profession tend to have a higher IQ doesnt necessarily mean that higher IQ is what allows them to succeed in that profession.those professions are strongly influenced by a middle class background, which higher IQ is the outcome of. this was already argued in Richardsons, "What IQ tests test" IQshould not be considered when hiring new potential engineers or brain surgeons or what have you. if you want to see if someone is a good engineer or whatever, have them do the job. hard work and motivation trumps innate abilityyou are clearly dishonest. you are simply dismissing evidence because it is inconvenient for you. when i show IQ is irrelevant to becoming a doctor you assert being a doctor is just a "glorified plumber" where the fuck did you get that from? why do you not provide evidence for the assertions you pull out of your ass? have you ever tried becoming a doctoryou are all dumb and ignorant by IQ proponent standards. please make actual claims based in science
(DIR) Post #AAEByU3ZJXFMtTH9hA by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T21:23:55.111481Z
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@ConscientiousPoster @LorgarAurelian1488 explain. this is just a claim. dont waste my time
(DIR) Post #AAEC1QvPPiSI39risq by ConscientiousPoster@poa.st
2021-08-11T21:24:26.896440Z
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@racerealist @LorgarAurelian1488 Your time isn't valuable
(DIR) Post #AAEC74NU9lHdrIgZbE by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-11T21:25:28.109003Z
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@ConscientiousPoster @LorgarAurelian1488 i dont care
(DIR) Post #AAECLXSSpjFQ6UuiOW by Nike@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2021-08-11T21:28:05.249901Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski Are they both black women? If so, then yes.
(DIR) Post #AAEDAiF2V4qmJi2IUa by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T21:37:20.404337Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo >IQshould not be considered when hiring new potential engineers or brain surgeons or what have youok hypothetically, say you need a brain tumor removed and you have a choice between 2 surgeons. the only criteria you have to go on is reported IQ. one surgeon has an IQ of 150. the other has an IQ of 90. is it your position then that you would be just as comfortable having the 100 IQ surgeon do your surgery as the 150 IQ surgeon? just a simple question. i'll wait...
(DIR) Post #AAEDDHnFI5gf9qGMNs by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T21:37:48.432410Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo (s/100/90/)
(DIR) Post #AAEDEVIMZo8rK4Olnc by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T21:38:00.818310Z
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@racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski >"glorified plumber" where the fuck did you get that from?I got it from a doctor worth tens of millions of dollars who is on the patent for PET scans you absolute slobbering mongoloidthe idea that it's a "middle class upbringing" that allows engineers and physicists and mathematicians to do their job is the cope to end all copes
(DIR) Post #AAEDH04v62UFNGIirh by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T21:38:27.109367Z
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@meowski @racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo he's already claimed that he would "flip a coin" to decide between a 70 (not 100) and a 140 IQ doctor
(DIR) Post #AAEDKUZu9hcCpuSW9I by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T21:39:06.483170Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist beginning to wonder of "race realist" is actually an alt of freemosimilar arguments
(DIR) Post #AAEE2yFjBgENc0ELbc by billiam@shitposter.club
2021-08-11T21:47:08.939856Z
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@meowski @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist he's a known time waster from Twitter https://twitter.com/race__realist
(DIR) Post #AAEEEHLIYID00HEC6y by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-11T21:49:10.271353Z
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@billiam @meowski @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist if this is the same guy, he claims in his thread on Murray's new book that "mental illness isn't biological" so uhhh opinion Descarted
(DIR) Post #AAEEUOjcpqFxZ1IEE4 by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-11T21:52:06.185841Z
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@billiam @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist ah.. sad. these people are a solution looking for a problem. they've set their sights on basic biology and want to replace it with woke libtard politics.it's weird how a lot of these "neuroscience" programs get intertwined with stuff like race and gender studies and sociology. you'd think neuroscience would focus on quantifiable measureable phenomena, not politics and culture
(DIR) Post #AAEEoJlR1gWFwGdc0W by billiam@shitposter.club
2021-08-11T21:55:42.332779Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski @racerealist it's the same guy. He's linked to his blog on fedi (and has it in his bio on Twitter): https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/here's one instance of him linking to his blog on poast (and a screencap): https://poa.st/notice/AAD6Q524DbxkCdVQm0
(DIR) Post #AAEFMU1zMOEtcwfjrU by oversaturation@poa.st
2021-08-11T22:01:51.507576Z
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@billiam @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski @racerealist Interesting hair you got there.
(DIR) Post #AAENxTwxQLZNiuTKxE by reloadedAK@poa.st
2021-08-11T23:25:33.596556Z
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@RacistZikaBaby @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @Some_German_Guy @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist fair enough. Even before I was all JQ aware that debate with jordan peterson he had on the subject of Truth just drove me insane. Never really liked the man. But I'm not everyone else
(DIR) Post #AAEOcujek0Nufb0UO8 by reloadedAK@poa.st
2021-08-11T23:39:05.406530Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @Some_German_Guy @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist Like I said it drove me crazy. Sam was super rigid in his thinking
(DIR) Post #AAEP0068y7eDxjX9c0 by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-11T23:49:51.410095Z
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@reloadedAK @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @MoralPanic @NEETzsche @Some_German_Guy @WaitingForMajorian @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist their subsequent talks were much better. jordan was able to flesh out his points about what he meant by “truth” better and sam was a little more gracious about not drawing hard lines in the sand for no reason.
(DIR) Post #AAES7ZUC5yfbbc5Jku by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:24:50.269580Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski >very specificits very broad and widespread. the point isnt that fringe opinions are necessarily wrong, the issue is you have no proof or citation for them at all. like cmon man. theyre assertions
(DIR) Post #AAESAbBwD7lzlQzOOu by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:25:23.203175Z
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@billiam @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski haha, i link the blog because hes right. thats not actually me though
(DIR) Post #AAESFAZ6dNSWdF0OIq by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:26:12.176986Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski hahaha, source? you clearly pulled all of this out of your ass
(DIR) Post #AAESHcFWfy734X0tt2 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:26:38.710225Z
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@meowski @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo flip a coin
(DIR) Post #AAESIaNP7o47YLA2Uq by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:26:49.694158Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski lmao
(DIR) Post #AAESJFLimy54czgm48 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:26:56.940880Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski hahaha
(DIR) Post #AAESVGfJinQCBVaRXc by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:29:06.451314Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski you arent making any falsifiable claims nor do you have any sources so its impossible to have a discussion. youre just throwing around completely baseless assertions to dismiss evidence that contradicts your pov. not only are you dismissive but willfully ignorant, refusing to even read or look into any contradicting evidence or claims. you have no evidence nor have you done any researchthis isnt a fair discussion and you are all being dishonest
(DIR) Post #AAESXHDedKZCTubcHI by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:29:28.309952Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski hahaha right
(DIR) Post #AAESu4MiacOfHCiJ4y by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:33:35.797287Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski hahaha then this conversation is over if you dont want to be fair or honest. you dont care about science. thats it, we're doneat least youre honest, ill give you that much
(DIR) Post #AAET1nzFMupUnPQL8S by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:35:00.165562Z
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@racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowskiYou literally claimed mental illness has "nothing to do with biology." You are a theologian, not a scientist
(DIR) Post #AAET5KNDPdXA6sJYlE by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:35:38.356630Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski dude. thats not actually me
(DIR) Post #AAET7Jdn6isSPu12Aq by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:35:57.805017Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski you are clearly not. you arent interested in science, none of you are. shut up
(DIR) Post #AAET9aD4TWHeNrbBbM by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:36:23.566311Z
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@racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowskiThen why is that account cross-referenced here? More to the point, your a priori claims are no less ridiculous
(DIR) Post #AAETHWKAnyIoeMhnyi by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-12T00:37:48.936615Z
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@Eris >falsifiableIf you’re not aware, a “falsifiable” claim is one that can be tested and proven wrong. For example, the claim, “blacks are about as smart as whites,” is falsifiable, because you can go out there into the world and test this idea, and if it turns out they’re dumber (as is the case in reality), you’re wrong.You want your claims to be falsifiable, from a scientific standpoint. If anything, it’s him who is trying to create an unfalsifiable goalpost about IQ, because no matter what test you offer to demonstrate that blacks are dumber than whites on aggregate, he’ll come up with some cope about why it doesn’t count.@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski
(DIR) Post #AAETHi7qvbZrFd28RM by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:37:52.339032Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski yeah sure theyre ridiculous despite how you have 0 sources for your claims. theyre clearly ridiculous even though youve never actually read themand because the articles are useful. i dont have to write as much and all the sources are already theretheres no way i can prove im NOT him without doxxing myself so this is pretty pointless
(DIR) Post #AAETIUu3ZgemX1xJEu by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:38:00.329516Z
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@racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowskiPictured: you, pointing at your pea brained understanding of "science"
(DIR) Post #AAETLA2bb0XEhKDxyK by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:38:29.993953Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski not a response
(DIR) Post #AAETSrIj9dr8tSR4pE by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:39:48.013727Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski dude theres no way i can prove thats not me. i dont know what you wanti mean sure you can believe that i guess it doesnt really matter i cant prove a negative
(DIR) Post #AAETTMZ6umNfrFL6AK by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:39:17.661532Z
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@NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski when the hell did i mention raceand i was talking about your unsourced claims. not mine, i sourced mine. your claims are clearly not falsifiable. the fuck is wrong with you?
(DIR) Post #AAETW5GrffCd5b6Pgm by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:40:28.275992Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski theres no way to respond to you as you make no specific claims nor do you have any sourcesyou have actually zero evidence
(DIR) Post #AAETXw7ydXQNJKpRIm by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-12T00:40:47.971540Z
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@racerealist >your unsourced claimsMy arguments don’t hinge on sources. So I don’t need to cite any. We’ve been over this.@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski
(DIR) Post #AAETcA2Mrac5boDevw by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:41:32.988624Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski hahaha sureyou have no evidence then and your arguments arent falsifiable. you are saying nothing and you contribute nothing
(DIR) Post #AAETd2GPFbvdmzCdJQ by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:41:43.344577Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski ok cool.
(DIR) Post #AAETg6mCvcGGedXiG8 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:42:11.680155Z
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@racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowskiYou literally don't understand what "evidence" even is
(DIR) Post #AAETi0wvZ2wxA3SwLo by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:42:37.798230Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski thats not how it works stupid ass. i was talking about the methodological and conceptual issues with IQ only. race is never mentioned in any one of my sources, youre crazy
(DIR) Post #AAETkMMouAomALhALA by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:43:02.557728Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski you havent cited shit. do research and educate yourself or shut the fuck up
(DIR) Post #AAETmzNUpnD7jeGVWa by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:43:31.414176Z
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@racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowskiIn addition to not understanding what evidence is, you also don't understand what research is
(DIR) Post #AAEToLC3D7xzgTYYLY by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:43:46.411201Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski do research and educate yourself or fuck offyoure makint this discussion go in circles. if you dont care then leave
(DIR) Post #AAETqxOk8aNQkkjyca by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:44:15.052657Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski you dont understand anything intelligence research and you havent read shit on the subject
(DIR) Post #AAETrzpYZxqwaRmIIi by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:44:25.699346Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski ok cool
(DIR) Post #AAETuwNtqdSulfFI6C by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:44:56.600520Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski if you dont care then leave
(DIR) Post #AAETwrbqZYKUXNgbrM by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:45:18.764403Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski if you dont care then leave
(DIR) Post #AAEU67acWmPQhnWjdg by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:46:58.181928Z
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@racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowskiI've read plenty, there's nothing in your basic bitch evolution denialism that isn't thoroughly addressed in Haier (2016). In particular the claim that there is no physiological basis for intelligence is laughably ignorant
(DIR) Post #AAEUBAtZfGY8PDnn8a by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:47:54.043670Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski haha you havent read my arguments at all
(DIR) Post #AAEUCAt1BQwafS1DsW by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:48:05.013698Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski if you dont care then leave
(DIR) Post #AAEUG6dWvTXGe4eIc4 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:48:47.541496Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski haha no you havent dumbass
(DIR) Post #AAEUGZPhvwi5tbPAau by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-12T00:48:52.192777Z
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@racerealist I read your arguments from last night and they boiled down to “but the brain is more complex so your intelligence measurements don’t count.” That’s incorrect. Are you a troll, a retard, or a retarded troll?The only thing I can credit you with is having a hellthread go for nearly 24hrs straight@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski
(DIR) Post #AAEUGgVHZcKRsv4Dku by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:48:53.484393Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski no you dont
(DIR) Post #AAEUHIbHvjiC2YAYOO by RacistZikaBaby@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:48:59.636522Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @djsumdog @freemo @meowski i can’t believe you guys are still dunking on this guy y’all got way more patience than me for this waterheaded jerkoff lmao
(DIR) Post #AAEUNu3RacFpwJUJYu by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:50:11.878451Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski thats not what i argued. you clearly didnt read what i wrote nor did you read any of my sources nor have you made any claimsif youre not interested in the topic you can leave
(DIR) Post #AAEUT2D0hQrAg4PRce by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:51:07.907255Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski i would have to scroll up a ton. look for my reply where i criticise g for cherrypicking data
(DIR) Post #AAEUWtLRb6c2LRC3Rw by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-12T00:51:48.524815Z
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@racerealist >cherry picking dataYou mean like how you cherry picked the data where “job performance” didn’t correlate to intelligence because the two have nothing to do with each other in non-intellectual fields?@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski
(DIR) Post #AAEUhOTQiSoTmiw7mK by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:53:43.551049Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski how is that a cherrypick when i cited numerous intelligence researchers who cite job performance correlations as evidenceyou are clearly dismissing contradictory evidence with assertions again. wheres your proof being a doctor isnt intellectual?
(DIR) Post #AAEUkg4fjYDrF0vEVk by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:54:19.297454Z
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@racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowskiOn the contrary, I have exhaustively refuted every one of your retarded ill formed points, you're just too stupid to understand it. For example, the picture of two soy faggots (you) pointing at p value is in fact an argument, despite your protestation to the contrary ; you are simply too stupid to understand it
(DIR) Post #AAEUkj7cP3MUh1K81I by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:54:19.797141Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski except you provided no evidence for them and admitted you dont care about science. if you dont care about science you dont care abt this convo. thats al
(DIR) Post #AAEUpUNmdAZmQa9hfk by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:55:11.234129Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski hahaha no you havent queer. read Uttals "reliability in cognitive neuroscience"you havent acknowledged shit. you havent said shit. you havent cited shit. you clearly dont care abt science either
(DIR) Post #AAEUs48Og3KztCBfu4 by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T00:55:39.274130Z
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@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski if you arent interested in science, then go
(DIR) Post #AAEV82IDIBQkoKOUeO by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-12T00:58:31.155192Z
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@racerealist I never claimed that "job performance" has anything to do with intelligence and contradictory evidence to that claim is therefor irrelevant to me.@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski
(DIR) Post #AAEVGyD3qIUCkmFCXA by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-12T01:00:07.108134Z
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@racerealist I'm interested in science but not soyence.@Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski
(DIR) Post #AAEVHBgbjkqSYBATtQ by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T01:00:11.215307Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski the point is thats not cherrypickingmore importantly, this has nothing to do with my criticism of the g factor
(DIR) Post #AAEVKm8GggsaSFohpQ by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2021-08-12T01:00:48.855043Z
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@racerealist idgaf about your criticism of the g factor@DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski
(DIR) Post #AAEVLx4vTYa6h1oZFo by SeeEyeEhAyejent@poa.st
2021-08-12T01:00:54.019275Z
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@Eris you mentioned race everytime you replied to him. Checkmate, libtard
(DIR) Post #AAEVMmXk8Aw4JAgnke by racerealist@poa.st
2021-08-12T01:01:02.965091Z
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@NEETzsche @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski hahaha
(DIR) Post #AAEa8YG4wcvNilSdAe by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-12T01:54:39.906675Z
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@racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo at least you eat your own dog food, i guess. i'll continue to believe intelligence is something that can be tested and measured, however imperfectly
(DIR) Post #AAEaJpAwO59FNFQthw by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-12T01:56:42.155105Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @racerealist @Eris @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo it says on his twitter profile he's a philosoper. pretty much the same thing
(DIR) Post #AAEaWX80nX1NAM7gXo by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-12T01:58:59.677816Z
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@NEETzsche @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @racerealist this is why they have to attack the testing methodology because the results don't fit their world view.
(DIR) Post #AAEbKeZ3QNmGhxfeYS by meowski@fluf.club
2021-08-12T02:08:03.386612Z
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@NEETzsche @racerealist @DK_Dharmaraj @Eris @InceptionState @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo i think this whoke fixation on "job performance" not correlating with iq is a sleight of hand. there are too many ways to slice and dice those stats which is why he keeps going back to this.what iq does generally correlate with is profession.
(DIR) Post #AAEcgNpsOydR9MSsy0 by Juan@poa.st
2021-08-12T02:22:56.177172Z
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@racerealist @Eris @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski >the issue is you have no proof or citation forI have a different view on this. Reality beats proof and citation. Every fucking timeI work in finance, and the industry. 'Proof and citation' are not the final arbiter of investors and traders. That's the market, and it has burned numerous analysts throughout the years, who thought their analysis was correct because they had so many citations.At the end of the day, what matters is not how citations your paper has, but rather it's ability to predict. Same with engineers. If you can't make a certain thing work, it doesn't matter how cited your papers are.Predictability and Operability. Not citations or proofs count.I would choose a fat high school drop who out makes good calls on securities over an analyst whose only exposure to the market are papers and articles. That's what everyone on this hellthread has asking of you, and yet you insist on your linked papers as though they are killshot. You are operating on a completely different mindset.
(DIR) Post #AAGbyIxPZEPpattIDQ by JustJohnny@poa.st
2021-08-13T01:24:21.458112Z
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@Eris @Juan @DK_Dharmaraj @InceptionState @NEETzsche @RacistZikaBaby @djsumdog @freemo @meowski @racerealist Unironically, academics are largely retards, we all know this.