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(DIR) Post #AACE8zgeNZk5Tum8Po by REX@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T22:38:43Z
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The Pillow Man symposium appears to have gotten off to a shaky start.The strategy of a 3 day event, using Lindell on Day 1 as a way to lure views (including ridicule) before Days 2 & 3, is not in itself a bad idea. However, Lindell is a poor speaker. Be lacks the authority, qualifications and experience to be speaking about stats, data and supposed intercepted 'packets'.His contribution should be for 1-2 hours maximum. Any more, people will switch off.
(DIR) Post #AACEBkcIrks1bx3Zse by REX@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T22:39:16Z
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The organisers don't seem to have understood that people don't need ranting and raving from Lindell anymore. We want hard, irrefutable data, above all else. Proof and evidence.What is frustrating is that even if Days 2 & 3 are blockbusters, there's a risk that they will be drowned out by Day 1.
(DIR) Post #AACEOyO8yUm25Ujqee by REX@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T22:41:40Z
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Let's hope Days 2 & 3 are better. Lindell is taking huge personal risks here for which he deserves praise and congratulations. What a pity it will be if all that is remembered is a ranting buffoon holding a pillow.That's exactly what America's enemies want. Their aim is to undermine the credibility of election fraud claims, by portraying anyone voicing concern as a tin foil hat loon, if not a domestic terrorist.Let's hope Lindell does not give them that gift.
(DIR) Post #AACEVGfJvyFEVhm4Zc by Philly_Fan@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T22:42:49Z
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@REX This is exactly where I stand on this issue. At a minimum, I need to see a complete documentation of at least one proven switch of votes. Experts will differ and refute each other no matter what, so it’s not enough to claim proof but not reveal it.
(DIR) Post #AACEZh63baRBdyOIHw by REX@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T22:43:37Z
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If it turns out that this symposium is a bust, I'm afraid it will be a major setback.Mainly because an exhausted but angry population may feel that they're being played. And that resistance to the Biden Junta just isn't worth it.Let's see what happens.#MAGAThe end.
(DIR) Post #AACF7ELsz3P8L6mn68 by Peaceandprosperity@noagendasocial.com
2021-08-10T22:49:40Z
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@REX so true. I am trying to teach my pre-teen daughters that if you want to chance minds, you generally need to lead people to the conclusion. As soon as you start yelling, your opposition stops listening.
(DIR) Post #AACF9afQzFnA813Sq0 by joebennett@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T22:50:06Z
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@REX Well, it may already be a bust. It's not supposed to be boring on day 1. Let's see what his cyber guys come up with. If it was his decision to set this up like this, it'll probably be a dud. He knows how to manufacture simple things, not put on symposiums.
(DIR) Post #AACFBEWmGxTS2hmzVQ by JM@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T22:50:24Z
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@REX The lack of patience is disappointing, yet I expected it from some.
(DIR) Post #AACFNDebLaD4o8AEM4 by DeWalt@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T22:52:34Z
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@REX "stats, data and supposed intercepted 'packets'."The packet Communications, if true is significant. My concern is how the capture is known. It jeopardizes it as evidence. If it's true, as an LEO (retired), it's the only real court admissible evidence I've heard of.Again. You have to know what's required to capture that.
(DIR) Post #AACFRmMIG2idbIm6bo by Dawnz@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T22:53:23Z
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@REX Well said.Im not going to follow it though.Two-three hrs today was all I could handle and I had things to do.If he follows thru,good.If not,I havent wasted too much time
(DIR) Post #AACFo0FBJToV2I2sq0 by ConnieinVA@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T22:57:24Z
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@JM I know what you mean.
(DIR) Post #AACFxi19vsILP87BYm by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T22:59:10Z
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@JM @REX Most of this is old, to those of us that followed constantly on social media after the election. However, Mr Wzi is lapping up, because all of it is new to him. He keeps coming up to me.... "Did you know that THIS happened????!!!!" So, maybe it's not a total bust.
(DIR) Post #AACG1UxkPeCO4bKHMu by JM@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T22:59:51Z
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@wziminer @REX Great point Louise, so many have no clue!
(DIR) Post #AACIUAc5LlP1GbzdoW by Angela@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T23:27:26Z
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@REX he’s not a public speaker. He was a drug addict saved by God. He was vilified/canceled/ mocked since Dec. Trump trusts him. He is in Trump’s inner circle. He has HUGE cajones.
(DIR) Post #AACIxjKPMNOnKaouFE by Donjanusgjrdrm@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T23:32:47Z
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@Angela @REX yES gOD bLESS Lindel, his sincerity is obvious however people may use it against him in order to turn him into a lolapolooza (you spell it). I don't want to see that happen either. As I said earlier he is a sales and marketing guy who tends to run off the mouth a little to much. He needs to turn this over to the experts.
(DIR) Post #AACJ1v5VZzy4xfqg7M by Donp@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T23:33:32Z
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@REX Agree with the characterization of Day 1 but hoping his passion convinces the unengaged to listen. Fingers crossed for day 2 &3.
(DIR) Post #AACJ8PtjwP0gFsRTE0 by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T23:34:42Z
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@joebennett People who know how to run a manufacturing business too often think the media industry works the same way.It doesn't.Takes a whole different skill set, and the ability to recognise that.He needs to back off and let someone else run the show.But that rarely happens in situations like this.@REX
(DIR) Post #AACJIQDhbBN49KYAPw by Timmerax@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T23:36:31Z
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@Cdubois @joebennett @REXHe is paying the bills, I have seen worse CEOs than him.
(DIR) Post #AACJIUTnlGcrMQ754C by Angela@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T23:36:32Z
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@Donjanusgjrdrm @REX No one will touch it. Graham/ McConnell all Julius Caesared Trump. If anyone can prove him wrong, there’s a cool 5 mil waiting for you.
(DIR) Post #AACJUTlCGJ1AbWxxpo by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T23:38:41Z
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@Timmerax Yes, he is, so he can do what he wants.And I've seen worse as well.I'm just in the business, and it's hard to watch, knowing how much better it could be.But, it is what it is.@joebennett @REX
(DIR) Post #AACK1QyHeUOvVjnlNA by Timmerax@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T23:44:36Z
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@Cdubois @joebennett @REXI agree, I actually think the coarse "unHollywood" lack of marketing speak is refreshing.He is merely stating fact, that speaks to the average Joe if it ever gets out there. We have become too jaded IMO
(DIR) Post #AACKjw7DDjtOqOCLpo by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T23:52:42Z
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@TimmeraxA program schedule with time limits on bloviating would be enough to polish things up but leave it organic.That's all I'm saying. @joebennett @REX
(DIR) Post #AACKtIbOz4fRBymePo by Timmerax@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-10T23:54:23Z
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@Cdubois @joebennett @REXAgreed
(DIR) Post #AACM0wZEtQcL7gytX6 by rarity@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T00:06:59Z
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@Angela @REX Agree. He’s sincere and very brave.
(DIR) Post #AACOx7Azo5W4jLVWNs by whereiswes@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T00:39:54Z
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@REX lindell would have nothing to do with whether the information holds any water. thats the military's jobi think lindell is simply here to draw attention to something the MSM would not cover, a polarizing figure that on its face looks like an easy target to discredit everything, but trying to discredit also helps spread that there might be something to talk about. without people like lindell the MSM remains silent and millions have no idea there's so many less who will question the election
(DIR) Post #AACV1PAHT3DpP6bNHk by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T01:47:54Z
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@REX I think Lindell is a good guy who believes in his heart of hearts he has the goods and that the election was hacked via machines.I just doubt he has anything we don't already know. Machines are hackable. We know this, it's not Earth-shattering news.But you have to prove that's exactly what happened on election day, otherwise, it's a moot point.
(DIR) Post #AACWGa2xOJWjS2yah6 by raquick@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T02:01:51Z
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@REX People want to see proof. He's preaching to the choir about his frustration with the MSM and how it seems there was election fraud. He has been saying he has the proof. What is it? Show the goods. The Arizona audit has been completed for nearly 2 months. What's the story? Where is John Durham? There is always some big shoe that is going to drop and it never does. The democrats threw Cuomo out and it only took a week. The right just talks and talks.
(DIR) Post #AACZEndiBM5MtN0i7E by CheetahFeet@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T02:35:09Z
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@REX Time and Time again something is presented. The usual groups pile on scratching or in cases elevating the wrong person. at some point in the future it’s proven or elevated person self destructs. A large number of the population doesn’t need proof, some need convincing, who’s the target audience? 5 million for proof? Hunter got more for crackhead paintings. Cuomo is dominating the cycle. So who’s the target audience, or is it to simply show data isn’t secure? Is it the goal or message?
(DIR) Post #AACZlfpYEkV4EGDwW0 by CheetahFeet@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T02:41:05Z
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@REX Time and Time again something is presented. The usual groups pile on scratching or in cases elevating the wrong person. at some point in the future it’s proven or elevated person self destructs. A large number of the population doesn’t need proof, some need convincing, who’s the target audience? 5 million for proof? Hunter got more for crackhead paintings. Cuomo is dominating the cycle. So who’s the target audience, or is it to simply show data isn’t secure? Is it the goal or messaging?
(DIR) Post #AACbRu1Ly3Y2M9Rc3s by WatchfulCat@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T02:59:54Z
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@REX Lindell is really just a blip on my screen, I see him for who he is. I don’t at all mean that in a bad way. I believe he is extremely sincere but could use some professional guidance. I hope things go ok for him and he smooths out. God is still at the top of all things.
(DIR) Post #AACbgXjh6WwLaKAKbA by WatchfulCat@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T03:02:35Z
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@JakeShakesworth @Cdubois @Timmerax @joebennett @REX Haha. True. No CNN fans shall be converted.
(DIR) Post #AACvZYlMsykTpHtcDA by Donjanusgjrdrm@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T06:45:24Z
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@redwhitebluedudeSo what do you suppose Mr. Lindell's role is in this election garb? And where is Trump during all of this? He's been quiet as a church mouse. The establishment media is sure to cover and bury as much of this as they possibly can. It is probably just as well that it is not getting a lot of coverage. TW mentioned something interesting. I do not understand the Art of War but there could be somekind doomed spy going on here. Not sure but what the heck its all speculation. @REX
(DIR) Post #AADEVgdDaSL4CVx07s by Zemeliko@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T10:17:36Z
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@REX Exactly. Thank you for this thread. And I'm in 100% agreement with you.The Lindell symposium, or any other event concerning the 2020 election fraud, must do two things:1. Give something convincing for the unconvinced.2. AVOID CREATING AN IMAGE OF ELECTION FRAUD CLAIMERS THAT CAN BE RIDICULED.And no. 2 is SUBSTANTIALLY MORE IMPORTANT than no. 1.Otherwise the damage to the MAGA and election integrity movements can far outweigh any benefits.@timr, @Debradelai - correct?
(DIR) Post #AADHFYEDMWGhMrFkMS by janis@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T10:48:18Z
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@REX Lindell is an acquired taste. Listening to him is somewhat like listening to Trump in his rallies. He speaks in the same sort of verbal shorthand, repeating his main thesis regularly. After watching most of Day 1, my impression is that he's got what it takes. If not, why would the media spend their time ridiculing him, attacking him, denigrating his efforts.The people around him, giving their evidence, are impressiveand accomplished in their fields.So far, I've learned a lot.
(DIR) Post #AADSrOuXYEUQyEIjWy by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
2021-08-11T12:58:24Z
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@connielee True statement.@Timmerax @joebennett @REX