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(DIR) Post #AABtTz89Xqz8ndo86i by kravietz@social.privacytools.io
2021-08-10T18:47:15Z
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A nice #COVID19 impact summaryCOVID hospitalisations breakdown on 9 August 2021 in Houston Medical CenterOut of 81 hospitalised, 9 vaccinated and 72 unvaccinatedOut of 23 in the ICU, 23 unvaccinated, zero vaccinatedOut of 11 on ventilators, 11 unvaccinated, zero vaccinated
(DIR) Post #AABu6lqwqPEQujFqgi by kravietz@social.privacytools.io
2021-08-10T18:54:14Z
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Now, this is a nice showcase but not a representative statistics (one day, small sample).A more detailed picture could be recently seen in the UK report, which has been promptly picked up by anti-vaxers as proof that "vaccines are harmful", as 63% of people who died of Delta variant received at least one dose of vaccine.How?
(DIR) Post #AABuop5aAqeNgy6b9k by kravietz@social.privacytools.io
2021-08-10T19:02:12Z
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This apparent paradox is caused by a slight difference between the massive increase in risk of death increasing with age and nearly as massive decrease in risk with full vaccination.Nearly, but slightly smaller.For a 70 yo person, the increase in risk from age alone is 32x as compared to 35 yo. Double vaccination reduces that risk by 20x. This is in details explained here:https://uk.news.yahoo.com/most-covid-deaths-vaccinated-heres-102424441.html
(DIR) Post #AAC0FnsBIrBZVfWPRY by heurekus@mastodon.social
2021-08-10T20:03:07Z
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@kravietz https://www.hhc.org/SiteContentImages/COVID-Hospitalizations-08102021.pdf
(DIR) Post #AAC1hLERU0IckBd4JU by heurekus@mastodon.social
2021-08-10T20:18:15Z
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@kravietz Kumpel hat gleich mal ans RKI getwittert ob sie das nicht auch so machen könnten.
(DIR) Post #AAC1hLmTRTWORjYFMG by kravietz@social.privacytools.io
2021-08-10T20:19:18Z
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@heurekus That's very good idea, very clear way of presenting the statistics
(DIR) Post #AAC8QRyfqgq8QC98ds by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2021-08-10T21:34:42Z
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@kravietz then numbers you posted mean nothing, even if you had a much larger sample."of people who were hospitalized, how many were vaccinated" is exactly the wrong questionDepending on the total number of vaccinated vs unvaccinated people in the society, you can get any result you want.For example, if everyone was vaccinated, 100% of hospitalized people would be vaccinated. This says nothing about the effects of the vaccine.
(DIR) Post #AAC8d5A5zMDlQMVoeW by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2021-08-10T21:36:59Z
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@kravietz "of people who were vaccinated, how many were hospitalized" would be a better question, but it's incomplete without"of people who were unvaccinated, how many were hospitalized"IOW, you need two percentages, or better yet, counts for the whole 2x2 matrix
(DIR) Post #AAC8jF3E8LhjpgEiyu by rochelimit@mastodon.technology
2021-08-10T21:38:04Z
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@kravietzMost anti-vaxxers take data out of context unfortunately, so interpretations are naïvely made without stats understanding - the vaccine reduces the chance of death by at least 94%, but it's hard to convince people.
(DIR) Post #AACoEREQzZMChyTNsO by kravietz@social.privacytools.io
2021-08-11T05:23:07Z
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@wolf480pl 100% agreed.For now each country does that differently. We'll certainly see more proper research published later this year.This is another summary statistics for US:https://news.yahoo.com/less-0-01-percent-vaccinated-190528863.html
(DIR) Post #AACpFzcmhpujcSASq8 by kravietz@social.privacytools.io
2021-08-11T05:34:36Z
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@wolf480pl Another nice one from the US #COVID19 https://www.vox.com/22602039/breakthrough-cases-covid-19-delta-variant-masks-vaccines