Post AA5b1qwhPyvnBR7uYC by jalvarez@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #AA33t3ngZOzzdqBrQO by cypnk@mastodon.social
       2021-08-06T12:24:12Z
       
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       Is it just me or is the Internet unbearably... the same?Articles, images, content in general seems like they're all specifically catered toward algorithms and not people. And so more of the same content feels generated because clicks rule the worldAlgorithms all the way down
       
 (DIR) Post #AA33t4IWijfXBUcUUq by anjum@mstdn.io
       2021-08-06T12:31:26Z
       
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       @cypnk Yeah, but generally referring to things on the internet as "content" might colour your thinking about this matter.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA33xUpe0cxwdYDo9o by cypnk@mastodon.social
       2021-08-06T12:32:15Z
       
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       @anjum That's fair. "Feed me" is a bad approach in general, not just for what's available on the web
       
 (DIR) Post #AA34BVjfRjWtUf6nzM by anjum@mstdn.io
       2021-08-06T12:34:27Z
       
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       @cypnk Will say though, even on my own personal web pages I worry about stuff like Twitter preview cards, open graph tags, and sometimes even SEO - and I realise I'm almost unconsciously catering to all these algorithms.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA34DvvD3dtDHtf8nw by anjum@mstdn.io
       2021-08-06T12:35:14Z
       
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       @cypnk Or perhaps I should say "proprietary web experience". Never liked the word "algorithm".
       
 (DIR) Post #AA34HK9fPqETJY2eUi by cypnk@mastodon.social
       2021-08-06T12:35:49Z
       
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       @anjum But it's worth it in your case since your treatise on When Marnie Was There was just genius
       
 (DIR) Post #AA3hjqeq3r94RNDM6C by fortifieduniverse@mastodon.online
       2021-08-06T19:57:58Z
       
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       @anjum @cypnk As an artist in multiple disciplines, I find the word "content" as is popularly used to be very distasteful. It's a usage that came out of technology folks designing systems to deal with serving art of all kinds through a single software interface. It's a software architecture term.It demeans the amount of work and years that goes into making art. It's like genre labels, but far worse.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA3qUiaKgyXGeBy0ye by fluffy@social.handholding.io
       2021-08-06T21:36:07.331483Z
       
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       @cypnk you get served the content you want
       
 (DIR) Post #AA4TEZzOmOGzZDzF8C by meeper@outerheaven.club
       2021-08-07T04:50:12.241467Z
       
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       @cypnk more.because algorithms bring more algorithms, Take down  big tech ig but you need to convince the algorithm loaded attention freak normies
       
 (DIR) Post #AA4THpuQ2yJZoHD7Pk by meeper@outerheaven.club
       2021-08-07T04:50:47.564109Z
       
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       @cypnk internet in general is terrible because of this, actual worthful and valueable informstion is intentionally amde scarce
       
 (DIR) Post #AA5b1qwhPyvnBR7uYC by jalvarez@fosstodon.org
       2021-08-07T15:33:02Z
       
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       @cypnk
       
 (DIR) Post #AA5btuiPcRCcVoDpei by ColinTheMathmo@mathstodon.xyz
       2021-08-06T12:58:15Z
       
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       @cypnk My site tries to be different, interesting, and to invite exploration, but I regularly get complaints that it's unexpected, and hard to find things.Your complaints are from your point of view, but I'd guess that in the world of people who "browse the internet", you are unusual.  Not so in this bubble in the Fediverse, but more widely, you're unusual."The Web" is not for you.Or me 8-(
       
 (DIR) Post #AA5buZSu709utaHWfw by wraidd@moonbeam.town
       2021-08-06T12:34:30Z
       
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       @cypnk Pretty sure that's why I like fedi so much
       
 (DIR) Post #AA5bua0a5n66a22QAS by chiasm@mastodon.online
       2021-08-06T12:43:06Z
       
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       @wraidd @cypnk Yeah I was going to say, Fedi's always good for me to see non-algorithmically-filtered content.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA5bwBtciCwyNPYHCq by cirno@fosstodon.org
       2021-08-06T12:28:47Z
       
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       @cypnk One of the nicest things about the old internet, the kind you can browse with Wiby.me, is that every site is different. Even ignoring algorithms, there are just some prevalent ideas about what looks nice and what doesn't, and many pre-configured tools like Wordpress, so that even the smaller websites end up looking kinda similar.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA5c0lAPWBX2vQaBA8 by chris@mastodon.chriswiegman.com
       2021-08-06T21:48:41Z
       
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       @cypnk @amolith I guess this is the inevitable result of writing for SEO instead of writing for people?
       
 (DIR) Post #AA5c0lfxcslkVHLNL6 by amolith@mk.nixnet.social
       2021-08-06T22:00:19.227Z
       
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       @chris@mastodon.chriswiegman.com @cypnk@mastodon.social this is a big part of why I have zero analytics on my site and try not to look at where articles get posted how many internet points they get. Writing for you is what's important ​:flan_thumbs:​
       
 (DIR) Post #AA5c33ziUMwhtfg9qa by alastair@writing.exchange
       2021-08-07T09:50:04Z
       
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       @cypnk Yes, this exactly. I hate the sameness of many blogs and pages. I think that maybe part of the driver on this is that everyone is putting out content to gain likes, so they follow what works for algorithms, not people.Bring back the messy, original, human web!