Post A9wCjL1fD6w7eORpaK by MadestMadness@meow.social
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 (DIR) Post #A9w9VwXmcfkc5tOPjc by natecull@mastodon.social
       2021-08-03T04:30:32Z
       
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       The corporate war on unsigned EXEs is sure having some collateral damage.I don't think 90% of the open source software community has quite processed that this war exists and what it means for the future of open software.I think it is a near certainty that this war will spread to home machines under the guise of "best practices", and if so, then it will be forced with the same kind of zeal we see in the public health field right now, and the same kind of lack of interest in counter-narratives
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wA6JygyO9nCMKFFY by natecull@mastodon.social
       2021-08-03T04:35:04Z
       
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       Imagine thinking, ten years ago, that the day would come when you're simply not allowed to compile and run your own software from a removable drive without asking permission from a governing body.This was what we all expected from a Microsoft-run world in 2001, but in 2011? Some of us thought things had changed. Others of us looked over Apple and the iPhone and resumed worrying.Now the zeitgeist is closing in fast because of ransomware.Users With Compilers Considered Harmful.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wA6KSpAMGAhoQJDU by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2021-08-03T04:38:06.585977Z
       
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       @natecull i suspect the people who genuinely care about open source are already on linux platforms. plenty of the others only care about not having to pay the vig and not really caring about the freedoms.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wCjIW2XiS5rjdY12 by natecull@mastodon.social
       2021-08-03T04:36:25Z
       
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       But what's the harm of forcing everyone in the world to register every piece of software they create in some kind of online registry, and request formal permission for it to be run, eh?I'm sure absolutely nothing bad could ever come of that.I mean you're not a *bad* person, are you? If you're not a bad person you have nothing to fear.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wCjJ4mSYF1bTtIAK by natecull@mastodon.social
       2021-08-03T04:40:50Z
       
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       If you compile your own software, or host your own website, and you don't get a formal publishing certificate for your code or your website from a recognised corporate or governmental entity, you are a bad person and your code should not run and your website should not be accessed. It's as simple as that. This is the thinking and it is coming to your own desktop very soon.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wCjJiU4w05acT03E by natecull@mastodon.social
       2021-08-03T04:43:02Z
       
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       There may come a time too when USB drives themselves are just banned also. You have to transfer data by cloud storage and storing locally is considered weird and dangerous.Wouldn't even take too much in the way of USB firmware malware to make that a thing.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wCjKWp3mGa6k1CVs by alcinnz@floss.social
       2021-08-03T04:46:09Z
       
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       @natecull It's already the case that Mac laptops lack USB slots!Another hurdle towards telling them that the only gifts I'm really interested in are DRM-free entertainment...
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wCjL1fD6w7eORpaK by MadestMadness@meow.social
       2021-08-03T05:05:03Z
       
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       @alcinnz @natecull To be fair, USB-C is a standard used on a whole plorifery of open devices.It's scary regardless, though. Like, we could have gotten a Lightning port instead and have been kinda shit out of luck (at least without sufficient referse engineering efforts)
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wCjLW9NlK5AwiB6W by 9vVlQ7B44mOHOY3BhY.kino@springbo.cc
       2021-08-03T05:07:32.687965Z
       
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       @MadestMadness everything should be USB-CI am a USB-C maximalist @alcinnz @natecull
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wCjLiCewxpmKLntI by natecull@mastodon.social
       2021-08-03T04:44:29Z
       
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       I mean sure, that last one sounds pretty ridiculous, like surely obviously nobody would go along with *that*.And yet.Things I once thought were ridiculous and over the top in terms of data privacy are happening daily now, so I just don't know anything anymore.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wCjNmWxpc8CKOHui by natecull@mastodon.social
       2021-08-03T04:59:40Z
       
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       Anyway, everything is fine even if the tech industry is gaining vast fine-grained control over everyone's lives, because Joe Biden will certainly remain US President forever, there will never again be a Republican in that seat, Trump was certainly the last bad US President, and no other bad people will ever take control of all this huge Western machine of surveillance and control.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wCjPaCGew7medSy0 by natecull@mastodon.social
       2021-08-03T05:01:30Z
       
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       I mean the Internet just can't be bad because it's market based. If anyone were unhappy with any part of the current situation, why, they'd just vote with their sovereign dollars and walk away! That's why markets always produce the most efficient outcomes for everyone.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wItwTrPP5uR34nKq by wzqtparor@mstdn.io
       2021-08-03T06:16:42Z
       
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       And they want to control GCC and FSF.@natecull
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wJ0RBMAqkTOMWCwa by be@fosstodon.org
       2021-08-03T05:47:36Z
       
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       @natecull I don't think there's an issue on Windows with running self compiled executables? But yes, you need to pay for a signing certificate to distribute software Windows now. And you need to have an Apple Developer account to get a signing key for distributing software on macOS, which requires macOS to sign up for.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wJ0Rf8O8ZGsiRzMG by natecull@mastodon.social
       2021-08-03T05:48:29Z
       
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       @be Whether there's an issue or not depends how many of the currently Extremely Recommended Corporate Best Practices of Microsoft Defender you turn on.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wJ0S8ubQO4N4Nllw by natecull@mastodon.social
       2021-08-03T05:51:08Z
       
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       @be And then there's now such a thing as companies having to purchase Cyber-Insurance, the cost of whose policies probably scale with whether you are following Extremely Recommended Corporate Best Practices or not.But it's possible that what's rapidly becoming mandatory on the corporate desktop will never make its way to the home desktop.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wJ0SfAfUBvz7TX3Q by be@fosstodon.org
       2021-08-03T05:53:01Z
       
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       @natecull I expect macOS to go the way of iOS and require all software distribution to be approved by Apple, whose terms conflict with the GPL, which they are actively hostile to and hate.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wJ0V7bWk7jbsnGeO by be@fosstodon.org
       2021-08-03T05:53:55Z
       
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       @natecull The only thing I can imagine preventing this is vigorous antitrust lawsuits from the US Department of Justice.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wJ0VbNk1wX6Ej344 by be@fosstodon.org
       2021-08-03T05:55:25Z
       
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       @natecull Someone recently asked about potentially porting Mixxx to iOS and I was like, uh, no: http://disq.us/p/2ib2i7s
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wJhax1jHJo8qOY88 by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
       2021-08-03T06:25:42.498777Z
       
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       @wzqtparor @natecull FSF is already sold
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wMS7wDcHxng6KhGq by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
       2021-08-03T06:56:28Z
       
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       @be @natecull so no hkmebrew, no pip, no nmp? Would that force these obnoxious mac-using devs to finally get a real operating system?
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wMp0KM4xoyjaWzlA by be@fosstodon.org
       2021-08-03T07:00:33Z
       
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       @wolf480pl @natecull I presume those are typos for homebrew and npm? Neither of those are licensed GPL, nor is PIP.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wO0y2sUMlJ5PcnDM by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
       2021-08-03T07:13:59Z
       
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       @be @natecull yeah sorry phone keyboard bad. Anyway my point is, they are used to distribute unsigned software, some of which is under GPL
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wOFVCc0auHyW6mye by TrechNex@queer.party
       2021-08-03T04:44:31Z
       
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       @natecull this was a significant problem when we were working on Glimpse.If the MSI installer wasn't signed at all, then browsers would block the download, SmartScreen would throw a wobbler, and AV programs would interfere with the normal operation of the program.Using a self-signed certificate only fixed the browser download problem.We were lucky to find someone with a valid CA cert willing to sign our installer for us. That resolved the issue ...unless it was the user's work laptop.