Post A9uP7lrUHoCd8w3Exs by fristi@kartoffel.cafe
 (DIR) More posts by fristi@kartoffel.cafe
 (DIR) Post #A9uOzfVU1uK17JtZyK by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-02T08:15:35.063801Z
       
       51 likes, 22 repeats
       
       :hacker_f::hacker_s::hacker_e: Major Announcement:I am still not installing Misskey anywhere, ever.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9uP7lrUHoCd8w3Exs by fristi@kartoffel.cafe
       2021-08-02T08:17:01.699822Z
       
       7 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p you can't hide from anime forever
       
 (DIR) Post #A9uPcwmhj1vnzrgDNQ by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-02T08:22:40.982968Z
       
       18 likes, 14 repeats
       
       @fristi Pleroma has plenty of anime.  We even have anime mascot, Pleroma-tan!pleromatan01f389.jpe
       
 (DIR) Post #A9uRXecw0VIe8tiKyO by xarvos@nixnet.social
       2021-08-02T08:44:07.982911Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @fristi Cursed Pleroma-tan
       
 (DIR) Post #A9uRu3tyiTFitzN3se by RO635@fedi.absturztau.be
       2021-08-02T08:18:39.177204Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p okay :aqua_thumbs_up:
       
 (DIR) Post #A9ukVxpJA6683mXjRg by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-02T12:16:43.587905Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @xarvos @fristi I haven't even posted the cursed ones.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9unmrvIfBhsXK69KK by pch_xyz@misskey.seediqbale.xyz
       2021-08-02T12:53:22.267Z
       
       2 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @p@freespeechextremist.com loving Misskey! Just don't know why SMTP doesn't work on my instance ​:0190:​
       
 (DIR) Post #A9uon0RP5uB4uMkB9s by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-02T13:04:37.589035Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pch_xyz I do not wish to run it but I am happy for you.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9wEUFYPTL3CFDhK2S by meshy@stereophonic.space
       2021-08-03T05:27:16.318959Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p B-butt, what about the bloat? How will you get this level of bloat, almost equaling a Samsung phone!?
       
 (DIR) Post #A9xNYKlF9FJEIVgO12 by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-03T18:43:34.393316Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @meshy If I'm gonna get that much bloat, I will have to figure out how to do it without chode.js.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9xNigMzf5NQDDH5Lk by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-03T18:45:25.665201Z
       
       6 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @p @meshy >ironically, after p writes the new JavaScript engine chode.js it ends up being the leanest, lightest, and cleanest JavaScript framework around, not short and bloaty and pill-shaped.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9xQ2FQziUOaNCbSr2 by twl@pleroma.8777.ch
       2021-08-03T19:11:22.879712Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p why is everyone moving to misskey
       
 (DIR) Post #A9xQJm1jn74KNe98ts by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-03T19:14:32.728246Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @twl @p it's what's hip with the kool kids..Also widgets
       
 (DIR) Post #A9xa0LBQN2CdAK390q by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-03T21:03:05.702576Z
       
       9 likes, 8 repeats
       
       @coyote @meshy I couldn't top Fabrice Bellard, who has written a new JS engine that, in typical Fabrice Bellard fashion, is written in C, is faster than all other known JS engines, and includes a bunch of cool stuff like fancy math libraries and a JS->C compiler.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9xa5bD8CxGuK1M6vw by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-03T21:04:02.724484Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @twl Beats the hell out of me.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9xaL4G8UMUol38YG8 by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-03T21:06:33.181853Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @meshy gonna need the source on that one
       
 (DIR) Post #A9xaQjqRIn5rBHp04m by Nudhul@shitposter.club
       2021-08-03T21:07:51.736777Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @meshy wait, written in C? not C++?
       
 (DIR) Post #A9xaSCcPo6wii8xaLo by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-03T21:08:06.861035Z
       
       3 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @pernia @p @meshy [1] – I witnessed this in a vivid dream.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9xe4SGWNewk6beQaG by MajorPatriot@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-03T21:48:39.520766Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @meshy I know BASIC
       
 (DIR) Post #A9xeHTxfO1xp872mNE by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-03T21:51:00.020308Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @meshy don't make my memes be dreams m8 you're tearing me apart
       
 (DIR) Post #A9yEhAXdoA1umOPzzE by meshy@stereophonic.space
       2021-08-04T04:39:01.006773Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @MajorPatriot @p @coyote I'm glad you know you're basic.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zw70btqTG2h6wDXU by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:20:13.995374Z
       
       22 likes, 7 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @meshy https://bellard.org/quickjs/quickjs.htmlPROTIP:  If Fabrice Bellard ever takes an interest in what you're doing, just abandon your project and do something else for a while, and if you're lucky you can become a maintenance programmer a few years later when he starts doing something else.  He's like the opposite of Lennart Poettering:  he did qemu/kvm, he did ffmpeg, he did tinycc, JSLinux, he used to have the world record for number of digits of pi calculated...which he did using a regular PC instead of a supercomputer.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zwX2XRIchUCfGRfM by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:24:38.493882Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @meshy damn that's insane, he made like every good project.>JSLinuxi don't even want to know what this is thoughalso has anyone used qjs to make a browser yet? that would seem like a nice webkit replacement
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zwwrXSon0RcMaZTk by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2021-08-05T00:29:34.990763Z
       
       3 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @p @fristi
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zx4mYrCyreUs17Jo by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T00:31:01.550433Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @p @meshy I doubt anyone could be focused enough on browsers and care enough to try to make a browser, too much going on, it's a whole ass OS
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zxOF8hBE7EdG3lc8 by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:34:15.378135Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @coyote @meshy @p would just having js + html + css be good enuf? t. clueless retard
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zxTPEn3v85OpN9Xc by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T00:35:28.298338Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @meshy @p well html5 is insane m8, you can make games with it, and many do
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zxUy84oyOXu5yf2m by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T00:35:45.557888Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @meshy @p Yes sort of, but there's already so much there
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zxYbyf7h9KMLJKkK by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:36:07.877865Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @coyote @meshy @p i just want websites to work man :sadblob:
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zxbYDrXXRvaBp2hs by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T00:36:57.013449Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @meshy @p Me too :akko_sad:
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zxdIfwJa51wXmzSq by Sterence@sleepy.cafe
       2021-08-05T00:37:15.890178Z
       
       6 likes, 3 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @meshy @p I wish none of them worked I hate websites
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zxgIUhRfbiFXxdlg by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T00:37:48.381853Z
       
       5 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Sterence @pernia @meshy @p CRINGE website enjoyervs.BASED website hater
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zxk9NtG1Ab9dc4ps by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:38:12.906760Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Sterence @coyote @meshy @p but what if the website was nice little static page that you can see
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zxpmyTUQntOAPioS by Sterence@sleepy.cafe
       2021-08-05T00:39:31.468042Z
       
       5 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @meshy @p we need to kill web site they hurt the soul they fill it with bad juju
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zxtEE6cirsmKMiFU by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:39:50.785464Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @coyote @Sterence @meshy @p mass adoption of viewing markdown files through acme through 9fs mount when
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zxwRqGSSdLsIkUr2 by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:40:26.303510Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Sterence @coyote @meshy @p mkmkmkmkmk ok so what do we use then
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zxy9vw0q9WuaDWPQ by Sterence@sleepy.cafe
       2021-08-05T00:41:02.152532Z
       
       4 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @meshy @p we kill computer
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zy0aISxtIrFtudM0 by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:41:11.129360Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Sterence @coyote @meshy @p .....;;;;;;;,;,;;.,;;.,
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zy3RZxplTD5QSbhY by Sterence@sleepy.cafe
       2021-08-05T00:41:59.606938Z
       
       6 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @meshy @p name one good thing a computer has done
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zy3z895hQ78zhs3s by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:42:05.803985Z
       
       8 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @Nudhul @coyote @meshy > wait, written in C? not C++?Yep, just C:  https://github.com/bellard/quickjs .  This is because Fabrice Bellard is an excellent programmer with good taste and C++ is a scam.  (Classes *and* polymorphic functions *and* templates?  Pointers *and* references?  The language doesn't just have every feature anyone's ever heard of:  it has multiple copies of every feature.)
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zyAbCaSEaUxUwCuG by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:42:59.739717Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Sterence @coyote @meshy @p arite this is fair i won't argue anymore (check ur email)
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zyLcUbznpg9BckKG by Sterence@sleepy.cafe
       2021-08-05T00:45:16.421864Z
       
       5 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @meshy @p which email I actually set up an email and frailleaf didn't even email me it was pretty fucked up
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zyW0C6jFgUYHv3tQ by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T00:47:09.015298Z
       
       4 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @Sterence @pernia @meshy @p what a bitch frailleaf is a cunt bitch motherfucker faggot
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zyZMllFfnHR6CTLM by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:47:46.091333Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @MajorPatriot @coyote @meshy QBASIC or GWBASIC?
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zyaac9GJGKfIHrua by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:47:41.510024Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Sterence @coyote @meshy @p damn cringe. also do you know what the fedi mailing list is about? i wanna send an email
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zybZGHmD1Gl9Wlns by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T00:48:09.294801Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @MajorPatriot @meshy BITCHBASIC
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zyk7bBzmexZTNwyO by Sterence@sleepy.cafe
       2021-08-05T00:49:42.233767Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @meshy @p idk I thought it was just people sending each other blog posts email me verbal abuse at sterence@sleepy.cafe
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zypRNRt5kKMPUdMm by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T00:50:39.346409Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Sterence @pernia @meshy @p speaking of misskeyI just found a bughttps://lain.sh/notice/A9zyVcKIPbMPWGadY8
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zyqVarhFh5j8HHRQ by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T00:50:51.415630Z
       
       3 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @Sterence @pernia @meshy @p oops wrong link https://silkhe.art/notes/8p1r13v7u8
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zyrAsgBvIzmFvaOu by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-08-05T00:50:58.948029Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @Nudhul @coyote @meshy team objects are just structs change my mind.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zzELesHt6RrZWLtA by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:54:52.670671Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @coyote @Sterence @meshy @p wth this seems purposeful though. don't know why someone would want ***cock*** popping out on their tl doe
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zzGHqNRNbcbzpETg by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-08-05T00:55:31.020202Z
       
       3 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @coyote @p @meshy 11 days in drug fueled development window for neural-browser release packaging.  Somehow it's just Dis ported to browser.
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zzMyzFwqII9iAgQy by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T00:56:26.216564Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @dubh @coyote @meshy @p js2dis interpreter when
       
 (DIR) Post #A9zzp0qqbsG02vbVce by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-08-05T01:01:47.826725Z
       
       5 likes, 3 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @meshy @p Inception was a quirky movie, not a virtualization guide, what the fuck, we're all a computer now, we're simulating ourselves.  Oh fuck oh shit how did this get here?  Temple OS vs the synagogue of 9front.  The decompiling is upon us.  We're going straight to homebrew riscv on fpga boys.  The future is now.  Get ready for doom on everything, all kinds.Sorry, none of that makes sense.  What I mean is I'm a Microsoft ActiveX purist.  It's a matter of standards you see.  Linux extremists have no place in this home.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA007QNaR5PKQshGYy by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T01:04:49.924175Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @dubh @coyote @meshy @p you're just schizoposting on purpose to try to swerve me chigger this won't work not anymore
       
 (DIR) Post #AA00AqblNIiKeExa5o by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T01:05:44.225783Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @dubh @meshy @p The curse is upon you now
       
 (DIR) Post #AA00Hyz6d60yedHSqG by coldacid@noagendasocial.com
       2021-08-05T01:07:01Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @dubh @pernia @p @coyote @meshy
       
 (DIR) Post #AA01OMftYxyvostzYe by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-08-05T01:19:23.483414Z
       
       4 likes, 3 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @meshy @p bitch please i am transcendent.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA01SQesh4u9KiMjxo by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T01:19:49.987776Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @dubh @coyote @meshy @p saving these but my point still stands
       
 (DIR) Post #AA01dcu7VLSOUwpi4G by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T01:22:08.651649Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @dubh @pernia @meshy @p #bars
       
 (DIR) Post #AA04xyrfrhTIGI5PVY by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T01:59:25.868715Z
       
       5 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @dubh @meshy @p @pernia found a federation formatting/display bug with misskey
       
 (DIR) Post #AA051jBu57VGoDKqFU by nonetrix@weeaboo.space
       2021-08-05T02:00:06.986459Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @coyote @dubh @meshy @p @pernia it's internal
       
 (DIR) Post #AA0564OzA4npkgWaUC by nonetrix@weeaboo.space
       2021-08-05T02:00:51.430116Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @coyote @dubh @meshy @p @pernia <spin>spin yayayay</spin>
       
 (DIR) Post #AA056owE8oj256Qmga by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-08-05T02:01:02.413675Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @coyote What is the bug? I think the markup text movement is intentional?
       
 (DIR) Post #AA056xrww5eRmRUzlg by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T02:01:03.155415Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @nonetrix @dubh @meshy @p @pernia I mean I figured but I shouldn't be able to do this from pleroma so it's a federation-related bug
       
 (DIR) Post #AA05BjcFMAy71SQdO4 by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T02:01:55.459782Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @dubh I'm posting from pleroma, the bug engages ***like this*** even in plaintext encoding
       
 (DIR) Post #AA05ClX9iAvLGCXTKy by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T02:01:49.373585Z
       
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       @dubh @coyote nice secluded discussion puntazoid
       
 (DIR) Post #AA05FJugrNd8SwlUxM by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T02:02:34.123115Z
       
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       @dubh I'd assume this behavior should be absent from non misskey users??
       
 (DIR) Post #AA05GTfG5i4Ezw6Bto by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-08-05T02:02:47.143139Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia Not now sweaty, mommy is busy cyberbullying.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA05HdzdAv91JyBTeK by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T02:02:59.598191Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @dubh secluded deluded my nigga i shoot dis
       
 (DIR) Post #AA05O6Zxo1sdiUG8oa by nonetrix@weeaboo.space
       2021-08-05T02:04:09.644116Z
       
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       @coyote @dubh @meshy @p @pernia not really should just have something like Pleroma does
       
 (DIR) Post #AA05OrupoFVAWpNyN6 by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T02:04:17.985097Z
       
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       @dubh https://lain.sh/notice/A9zyVcKIPbMPWGadY8 here's the thread from pleroma
       
 (DIR) Post #AA05SOgCRyvB0rDsSu by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-08-05T02:04:56.173487Z
       
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       @coyote Does misskey even look at how Pleroma flags that?  I know there's a transmogrifier bit that helps coax compatability, but maybe misskey just presumes that markup should be interpreted no matter the source?
       
 (DIR) Post #AA06HEbve6MsYNSyPo by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T02:14:06.795590Z
       
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       @dubh that's what I"m assuming
       
 (DIR) Post #AA06S46d2icb9tzSvQ by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-05T02:16:04.868069Z
       
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       @dubh it was posted as "Plain text" from plrtoma
       
 (DIR) Post #AA0HqCYiMiOhoxq4tE by meshy@stereophonic.space
       2021-08-05T04:23:41.941750Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @nonetrix @coyote @dubh @p @pernia What's BBC-ode? I'd scrap the 'ode' BBC is good enough
       
 (DIR) Post #AA0HzEmvRkVVLCnKmu by nonetrix@weeaboo.space
       2021-08-05T04:25:19.107863Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @meshy @coyote @dubh @p @pernia Big Block Cock Code
       
 (DIR) Post #AA0IHI9zeEqj0nC3bE by nonetrix@weeaboo.space
       2021-08-05T04:28:34.739416Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @meshy @coyote @dubh @p @pernia black* this isn't some weird Minecraft porn
       
 (DIR) Post #AA0RhqPLpzUqLV74Bk by philcolbourn@noagendasocial.com
       2021-08-05T06:14:14Z
       
       5 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @p @pernia @coyote @meshy his work inspired me to make a z80 emulator in bash.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1BYRGuWH3xflcNuq by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-05T14:47:58.630899Z
       
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       @pernia @coyote @meshy Well, it could only replace V8; WebKit's a whole rendering engine.  But I don't think anyone's tried yet.  It is really speedy, though.> i don't even want to know what this is thoughHe wrote a PC emulator in JS, added 9P, it boots Linux, it's pretty cool.  https://bellard.org/jslinux/ .  The description is worth reading just because it's really fuckin' cool:  https://bellard.org/jslinux/tech.html .> The next step was to run another operating system than Linux, for example Windows NT. A first release of this emulator ran Windows NT with QEMU inside the emulated Linux system. It was still usable because the x86 emulator supports an x86 virtualization extension (AMD SVM) used by QEMU.Even when he's doing something horrifying, it's awesome.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1Bm0xt7m9G8bC5AG by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-05T14:50:25.839398Z
       
       8 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @Sterence @pernia @coyote @meshy This computer is playing music for me.  IT SHOWED ME A WOMAN'S BOSOMS
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1Bo1US8tsMLVNq8e by welt@pl.spiderden.net
       2021-08-05T14:50:44.792958Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p based and not-jumping-on-the-latest-trendy-webshit-clusterfuck-of-a-software pilled
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1CHZxB5VOZd6ueG0 by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-05T14:56:08.110264Z
       
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       @coyote @Sterence @meshy @pernia That's fucking awesome.  They don't sanitize classes?
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1CwF1FpFaeZnD076 by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-05T15:03:29.033253Z
       
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       @dubh @Nudhul @coyote @meshy This is a true thing, but I'm also on team "Prototype-based object systems are better than class-style object systems and CSP is the best model for OO, and C++/Java are worse at OO than plain C with Plan 9's libthread."
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1H1TjkvrqvUGmEBU by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T15:48:56.934329Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @meshy yea its definately cool even if its cursed. i tried some other web virtualization thing that was written in rust to webassembly and it imploded my computer trying to run it, but jslinux ran nicely and barely went beyond 30% cpu, its very optimized even if slightly slower
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1IspaUWU2EYdRogq by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-05T16:10:05.863818Z
       
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       @dubh @coyote @meshy This is actually a thing I have thought about.  (And probably the original Inferno people, as it was designed to compete with Java.)  I should see how much effort is required to make browser-Dis a viable thing.  Like, trivially, Fabrice Bellard's PC emulator can probably boot an Inferno floppy.  But it's got better sandboxing and modules are actually a first-class thing, it's memory-safe.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1JTea4PPDV8RoDUe by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-05T16:16:45.152435Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @dubh @coyote @meshy Ha, maybe the java2dis stuff will work on an old version of Rhino.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1JYLWEhw3bSpFlQ0 by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T16:17:17.903495Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @dubh @meshy :woah: what's rhino?
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1JuKbgmNI10RHreK by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-05T16:21:34.434950Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @dubh @coyote @meshy> schizopostingIt made perfect sense to me!
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1K3EXWhpwsnNaKnY by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T16:22:52.840531Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @dubh @meshy schizo2schizo communication is e2ee
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1K3gCDsdXqZPpiTo by FrailLeaf@neckbeard.xyz
       2021-08-05T16:23:15.227634Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @fristi @xarvos The one where she was giving was pretty cute ngl
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1KNyJ8FgYMX8jzu4 by FrailLeaf@neckbeard.xyz
       2021-08-05T16:26:55.299681Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @pernia @coyote @meshy this guy can steal my waifu and I wouldn't care.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1Ka2gjn3sraxXPXs by FrailLeaf@neckbeard.xyz
       2021-08-05T16:29:06.360347Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @coyote @pernia @p @Sterence @meshy harsh, but fair.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1Kbwq2VlRE1ynVQW by Sterence@sleepy.cafe
       2021-08-05T16:29:26.943710Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @FrailLeaf @coyote @meshy @p @pernia wheres my email i will fight you in email
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1KfgTjHLRURy8xrU by FrailLeaf@neckbeard.xyz
       2021-08-05T16:30:06.481285Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Sterence @pernia @p @coyote @meshy sorry pal i'm now a [redacted] enjoyer
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1Knk7hbyuk4RgQwi by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T16:31:17.123032Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Sterence @FrailLeaf @coyote @meshy @p i sent you an email btw
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1KqauMKWPYMJnmDo by Sterence@sleepy.cafe
       2021-08-05T16:32:05.651102Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @FrailLeaf @coyote @meshy @p yeah i sent you a reply you didnt even respond
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1LJZh1vUUkzMO0Qq by FrailLeaf@neckbeard.xyz
       2021-08-05T16:37:19.786317Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @fristi @xarvos my bad let me correct this:>the one where pleroma-tan was giving birth was pretty cute ngl
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1Nkv3on2wCzCDC8e by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T17:04:23.661100Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @meshy >webkit's a whole rendering enginequickjs could probably get integrated into https://github.com/danfragoso/thdwb since it does everything but js
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1TSaCUCzVknluENc by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-05T18:08:36.554394Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @philcolbourn @pernia @coyote @meshy Nice!  @chjara did a Forth in bash, it was really cool.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1aLH5nYIG9BxEwKW by MajorPatriot@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-05T19:25:43.416222Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @meshy msbasic...that was the last one I used.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1aRRnGg80c7OW37Y by MajorPatriot@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-05T19:26:50.350085Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @meshy @coyote @p I am basic nigga. I don't want to learn all this new stuff.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1fXNFB0VaNW1DPTk by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-05T20:23:37.899593Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @philcolbourn @chjara @coyote @meshy how are these projects even possible in bash
       
 (DIR) Post #AA1pz2j1t3rbWp0kQC by philcolbourn@noagendasocial.com
       2021-08-05T22:20:58Z
       
       3 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @pernia @p @chjara @coyote @meshy https://github.com/philcolbourn/pc-z80-emulator
       
 (DIR) Post #AA27zLraWxfu3iJM9o by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-06T01:42:25.031815Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @philcolbourn @p @chjara @coyote @meshy insane schizo good job
       
 (DIR) Post #AA3Z4WcUrCfymvu5J2 by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-06T18:20:54.847660Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @dubh @meshy A JS runtime written in Java.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA3ZFYVkANh9q40Lk8 by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-06T18:22:35.640922Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @dubh @meshy cursed and uncool
       
 (DIR) Post #AA3a3og6KdS8SWocUq by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-06T18:31:59.458597Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @FrailLeaf @fristi @xarvos Oh, I don't think I've seen that one.  I did see this one, because I made it, and I have to use the rule 34 version with caution.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA3bYqS1tDRQtCapMW by meshy@stereophonic.space
       2021-08-06T18:48:47.836319Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @pernia @coyote @dubh I want a Java runtime written is JS
       
 (DIR) Post #AA4E8bdeEiSpdFVTe4 by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-07T02:00:44.788040Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @meshy @p @coyote @dubh log off NOW
       
 (DIR) Post #AA4Tikfvc7PjOeGc2i by meshy@stereophonic.space
       2021-08-07T04:55:39.548025Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @dubh @p I want a Java applet in a website
       
 (DIR) Post #AA4U0Pq3p39HzAQfMO by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
       2021-08-07T04:58:50.031956Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @meshy @pernia @coyote @dubh @p A Javascript engine, written in Java and running as an Applet! Then you could use it to load up one of those x86 emulators written in Javascript!
       
 (DIR) Post #AA65X0nFqsSlKMTzUG by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-07T23:34:02.741096Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @meshy @coyote @dubh @pernia If you're that dead-set on blighting the earth, then you should be able to do that, yeah.  Write a little JVM in asm.js.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA65edSiTs5BHdVldw by welt@pl.spiderden.net
       2021-08-07T23:35:20.406147Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @meshy >chode.isStealing this
       
 (DIR) Post #AA78lqCjzuLJqo7tZ2 by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-08T11:45:03.127561Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @djsumdog @meshy @coyote @dubh @pernia And then use it to boot...THIS:jx-demo.bin
       
 (DIR) Post #AA7VRllN6C9NEJirr6 by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-08T15:59:08.405862Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @welt @meshy I'm fairly certain I stole it, but I'm not sure of who it was.  I think Ted Dziuba.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA7epMC2iYW8SpWJX6 by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-08T17:44:14.028206Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @djsumdog @dubh @meshy @pernia wat dis?
       
 (DIR) Post #AA7faUJsK0z3HHepPs by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
       2021-08-08T17:52:45.580752Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @coyote @p @dubh @meshy @pernia jx-demo.bin: DOS/MBR boot sector; GRand Unified Bootloader, stage1 version 0x3, boot drive 0x0, 1st sector stage2 0x58, GRUB version 0.97I tried qemu-system-x86_64 -drive file=/tmp/jx-demo.bin but it doesn’t seem to want to boot.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA7uND3mgCfBIQG1my by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-08T20:38:26.495600Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy @pernia A bootable floppy image!
       
 (DIR) Post #AA7uQgkmjhoEG31uAC by graf@poa.st
       2021-08-08T20:39:03.580332Z
       
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       @p @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy @pernia you can put netboot.xyz on a floppy and use it to install any linux distribution (within reason) on any machine with a floppy drive!
       
 (DIR) Post #AA7uR9PsAXJR9aT75s by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-08T20:39:09.230193Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @djsumdog @coyote @dubh @meshy @pernia Try with "-fda", it's a floppy.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA7wTTdUADq4Lp4ZfM by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-08T21:01:59.057550Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @graf @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy @pernia It's probably harder to find a machine with a floppy drive!(I have one floppy drive in a box of parts that comprise about 80% of a 486.  At some point I will find some parts to complete the thing but I'm not actually sure where the box is.  So even if you have a floppy drive, it's possible you can't find a machine with a floppy drive.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AA7wXgPKcYbB7VSSLA by graf@poa.st
       2021-08-08T21:02:43.174055Z
       
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       @p @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy @pernia I threw out several when I was moving shit. a full box of 386 motherboards with and without mathcoprocessors was a good trip down memory lane
       
 (DIR) Post #AA7wb00IDeyIlVKMue by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2021-08-08T21:03:20.366312Z
       
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       @p @graf @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy @pernia i have a working one, if anyone has a disk they want to read i can probably read it get in touch
       
 (DIR) Post #AA7xTfu8eKKMM6WJyC by neo@mk.comfysnug.space
       2021-08-08T21:13:12.792Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p@freespeechextremist.com Maybe this will get people making more small servers and helping the fediverse become more resilient.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA7xlgM3iJlixsANQe by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
       2021-08-08T21:16:27.086361Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @dubh @meshy @pernia ah yes, nostalgia. Same dopamine hit as porn, but I don't want to fuck it.Takes me back to the days when Solaris CDE took an hour to load, and our lab had the 7 book volume on X11 programming.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA7y2omhcq6S22neOu by shitgrifter@poa.st
       2021-08-08T21:19:33.939577Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p the fuck is misskey
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8226FraLqBk5LupU by ItsAllToast@poa.st
       2021-08-08T22:04:14.718545Z
       
       5 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @dubh @pernia @coyote @meshy @p glad to see my Terry Davis On Commodore PET image is still in circulation brings a happy tear to my eye 🥲
       
 (DIR) Post #AA829JthGGIs54QXTc by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-08-08T22:05:33.709508Z
       
       4 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @ItsAllToast @pernia @p @coyote @meshy He’s running over glowies in heaventhread now.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA834sj8RDUabpw012 by ItsAllToast@poa.st
       2021-08-08T22:15:56.997928Z
       
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       @p @dubh @coyote @meshy I'm pretty sure the initial releases of Inferno could boot in a web browser, as we used to have to use that with one of the (insanely horrific) Lucent advanced telephone switches at the time.Fun fact: If you unplugged the monitor from the rack of prerelease beta switching systems (running Inferno), the dialtone service would crash, and nobody serviced by that switch could place a call until it all rebooted.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8AKQweCLM6l0cLgG by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-08T23:37:13.212952Z
       
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       @neo That'd be nice!
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8ALu0LdlO1Aq35aC by neo@mk.comfysnug.space
       2021-08-08T23:37:28.444Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p@freespeechextremist.com I did my part ​:pudding_cat:​
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8AVY7nqMfeD88UE4 by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-08T23:39:13.748892Z
       
       2 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @djsumdog @coyote @dubh @meshy @pernia It's a JVM OS!
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8AhEth9nAU3K6xOK by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-08T23:41:20.508954Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @shitgrifter Some JavaScript thing that I don't have to worry about because I am not installing it anywhere, ever.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8AhXXLr5aJrWnshc by neo@mk.comfysnug.space
       2021-08-08T23:41:22.907Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p@freespeechextremist.com @coyote@lain.sh @meshy@stereophonic.space you mean QuickJS?
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8BNIRWMgG9DAzHYe by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
       2021-08-08T23:48:55.252200Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @dubh @meshy @pernia Yea I was looking at that too. The image contains a single ELF 32-bit executable called `protectedmode` that somehow starts up binaries in an unknown format; which I assume is some ancient JVM bytecode. There are jdk0.jll/jdk1.jil binaries in the archive.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8BjaczQyarywyxIu by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-08T23:52:57.659124Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @neo @p @meshy he names it up the thread a bit. I think quickjs is the one but not sure
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8L1zsvAQdZ7CHnAu by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-09T01:37:08.610636Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ItsAllToast @dubh @coyote @meshy @pernia Ha, that was you?  It's a good one.  :terryapproves:
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8L9Wvuh1VvdiHHAu by ItsAllToast@poa.st
       2021-08-09T01:38:29.768474Z
       
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       @p @coyote @dubh @meshy @pernia TempleOS will always be the most wholesome OS! 🙏
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8LmlcC2WNyT6lNiq by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-09T01:45:34.327587Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @djsumdog @coyote @dubh @meshy this is beyond cursed who made this
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8Lp8KYYScfUyds8m by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-09T01:46:01.419927Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ItsAllToast @coyote @dubh @meshy > I'm pretty sure the initial releases of Inferno could boot in a web browserYeah, I think the current ones could, I've got a floppy image somewhere that BLS rolled.  (Maybe backporting the 9front virtio stuff wouldn't be too hard.)  The old releases actually came with an ActiveX plugin for IE.> Fun fact: If you unplugged the monitor from the rack of prerelease beta switching systems (running Inferno), the dialtone service would crash, and nobody serviced by that switch could place a call until it all rebooted.Ha!  Ouch.I hear the phones were good, but the people talking about them were all using the regular release one; I've never heard anyone pining for the switch.  I ran into this old guy in a coffee shop randomly that saw me running acme and struck up a conversation about building an Inferno-based router.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8MvfF9CNyfGdn37Q by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-09T01:58:24.539860Z
       
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       @neo @coyote @meshy Yep, I forgot to link in that post but did elsewhere in the thread.
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8RHjTGYoGMZDAkm8 by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-09T02:47:13.043369Z
       
       4 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy I don't remember where I got it.  Way back on :7eleven:chan, I was sick of people doing distro arguments, I posted "Anyone got anything besides Gentoo-Arch?" and I basically dug up all the weird shit I could find and put it into the thread and no one else replied.  It's how I found MonaOS.mona-0.3.4-images-for-qemu.tar.gz
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8Rl7pb4Kj4W5dJXU by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-09T02:52:30.320293Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy >Kernel size is now 132KB(2011/08/17)damn that's awesome. the jounry to pwn lusers was worth it
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8WWPztkFG8HjG3No by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-09T03:45:53.795440Z
       
       1 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy It's still under development! http://github.com/higepon/mona
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8Ws1oCMI6ZdU5dBY by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-09T03:49:46.590893Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy >may 2021damn i thought this thing was dead glad to see its still kicking. kinda reminds me of serenityos but this seems nicer
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8ZbP4wt40wkLgmhM by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-09T04:20:24.760527Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pernia @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy Ah, looks like just twiddling with the website.  I was confusing notifications from that repo with this one, which is updated with new shit regularly:  https://github.com/froggey/Mezzano
       
 (DIR) Post #AA8jGA3mWxuxcveXLM by ItsAllToast@poa.st
       2021-08-09T06:08:37.012031Z
       
       1 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @dubh @meshy it was one of the last products produced by the time Lucent went under, for residential phone service (this was a telco). At the time, iirc, almost two thirds of the boxes of equipment we got from them were DOA so they weren't exactly doing the best QA job in general.Here's how it ended up lol nexttv.com/news/lucent-pathstar-line-discontinued-150026
       
 (DIR) Post #AA9ujcW56QGuw16Dg0 by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-09T19:51:53.096669Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy >august 1nice nice. interesting to see it in lisp and made by a frog, is this one also microkernel?
       
 (DIR) Post #AA9zbf7S2cpGSebTkG by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-09T20:46:30.077218Z
       
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       @ItsAllToast @coyote @dubh @meshy Yeah, I haven't heard a good word from any of the old Labs guys about Lucent.  I do recall their consumer products being a flash in the pan.> [Article from 2001]> [Time Warner]I have just had an unpleasant flashback.  :aol:
       
 (DIR) Post #AA9zveYDrbQsUTeqzQ by mrsaturday@shitposter.club
       2021-08-09T20:50:06.617132Z
       
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       @p @ItsAllToast @coyote @dubh @meshy The Lucent plant here got divvied up into warehouses and offices. The basement's still intact, though. Whoever it was that was running that spinoff of AT&T ran it into the dirt. The quality was awful and they treated their workers like shit, which was too bad because if you got a job there when it was Western Electric or AT&T you were set.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAA6I3Z68qg4AN8KmW by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-09T22:01:23.589823Z
       
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       @pernia @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy > interesting to see it in lisp and made by a frogThey love Lisp and OCaml in France.  The authors of LUSH are also :gayfrog:s!  http://lush.sourceforge.net/> is this one also microkernel? That's a difficult classification.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAA7vcQeYKUPXgc0MS by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-09T22:19:44.884880Z
       
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       @mrsaturday @ItsAllToast @coyote @dubh @meshy > if you got a job there when it was Western Electric or AT&T you were set.Yeah.  I read a really good interview with :bwk: a long time back, I link to it almost compulsively.  Bell Labs sounded like possibly one of the best places to work on earth, like when they set set it up they got plenty of support from management and they knew how to let researchers work.  http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mihaib/kernighan-interview/:bwk: did an interview with :ken: somewhat recently, they put it onto Youtube.  Ken was not super interested in working for AT&T and said that what convinced him was that while he was there, they took him on a walk down the hallway, and he kept seeing names on the office doorplates that he knew, people whose work he admired.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY6q5dv_B-oWhen I was at AT&T (by then it was just a name that SBC had purchased, but about half of Bell Labs was still intact; the Chief Architect of the system I worked on couldn't get over how David Korn still has to get up early once a week to move his van for street-sweeping, but that's New Jersey, I guess), the old AT&T employees said much the same, that it was a great place to work, even the janitors liked it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAA9UQ3SeQDnFpvEUy by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-09T22:37:12.737108Z
       
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       @p @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy >that's a difficult classificatoinwhat is it then??? a hybrid kernel?>combining the benefits of a weakly-typed interpreted language and a strongly typed natively compiled languagehow does lush compare to lua do u think
       
 (DIR) Post #AAAeDUpEl3i3hqgBIe by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-10T04:21:32.382255Z
       
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       @pernia @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy > what is it then??? a hybrid kernel?I mean it's not like you can point to something and say "Hey, here...this is where they do 'microkernel'."  Like, the classification isn't cut and dry.  I think it's a monolithic kernel by looking at it, but it depends on how you define it and if I'm reading right.  It looks to me like it works the way the old Lisp systems did, "processes" don't work the way they do under Unix.> how does lush compare to lua do u think They're both pretty fun to use.  I haven't played with Lush in a long time, though.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAC0AbfdFBowDVAqB6 by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-10T20:02:11.953989Z
       
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       @p @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy >It looks to me like it works the way the old Lisp systems did, "processes" don't work the way they do under Unix.le lisp machine huh?
       
 (DIR) Post #AAGunZWRXLQQugs9IG by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-13T04:55:36.464959Z
       
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       @pernia @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy Le very same.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAIFDRNMdkJFPzCLfk by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-13T20:19:02.131007Z
       
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       @p @dubh @djsumdog @coyote @meshy how are processes different in lisp machines doe, is it more bare bones or something?
       
 (DIR) Post #AAJPbBEHW8NozSrtuS by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-14T09:50:08.788592Z
       
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       @pernia @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy Cooperative multitasking instead of preemptive, and using the memory-safe language properties instead of doing process isolation, stuff like that.  In some of these OSs, you have continuations instead of process isolation.  I mean, you can probably grep the source to see how they do multitasking.  (They must, since there's a windowed GUI and more than one thing runs.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AAKI4Sfr8FuN17B49A by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-14T20:00:26.585207Z
       
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       @p @dubh @djsumdog @coyote @meshy >in order to run multiple applications concurrently, processes voluntarily yield control periodically or when idle or logically blocked. This type of multitasking is called cooperative because all programs must cooperate for the scheduling scheme to work. wtf this seems way nicer, what happened?
       
 (DIR) Post #AALz9Pia2ZRUU41H16 by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-15T15:37:55.902841Z
       
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       @pernia @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy > wtf this seems way nicer, what happened? Same thing that happened to Token Ring networks.It might nicer until you consider two things.  First, a task does not necessarily understand how much of its time should be idle, how much of the system's time it's used overall, and how much demand there is for resources in the system, but the kernel knows, so preemptive multitasking has an advantage there.  The other thing to consider is that a lot of software has bugs.  Basically, cooperative multitasking shoves the burden of maintaining the system into the user-level programs, but in a system with preemptive multitasking, it's one less thing you have to worry about when writing a program and one less thing the authors of any of the programs on your system can fuck up.Cooperative multitasking was how pre-NT/XP Windows worked.  (That is, up to WindowsME.)  You'd run into a lot of issues with the machine becoming unresponsive because a program was grinding too hard.  So Windows couldn't even get a word in edgewise, your mouse would freeze up while Encarta tried to ask a 2x CD-ROM drive who Tamerlane was or Excel tried to count how many clouds Earth has.  It was somewhat improved in later versions (Win98SE was probably the best of the Old Windows; WinME was the Vista of its day) but if some program went out to lunch for long enough, it was still a pain.  You didn't actually have to yield to the scheduler explicitly, a lot of syscalls included an implicit yield, which also meant that it was less obvious if you went too long without hitting one of those points (say you were doing a complicated render, so you didn't tell the GUI to draw anything for a while and you didn't ask it if any buttons had been pressed).Older MacOS worked this way, too, though I've not used it as much as Windows.
       
 (DIR) Post #AALzYaLrdrn4heOfpY by izaya@social.shadowkat.net
       2021-08-15T15:42:21.088489Z
       
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       @p @pernia @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy RISC OS is also a cooperative multitasking system.I've been writing OSes for the OpenComputers mod for Minecraft and it has no facilities for preemptive multitasking, so I've discovered there's more failure modes than "program stuck" as well.:D
       
 (DIR) Post #AAM2cwURZdCANvBAjQ by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-15T16:16:48.606600Z
       
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       @izaya @dubh @djsumdog @p @coyote @meshy >minecraft lisp machines
       
 (DIR) Post #AAM2yQo03aI0UIZb8q by izaya@social.shadowkat.net
       2021-08-15T16:20:35.885490Z
       
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       @pernia @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy @p somewhat surprisingly I haven't seen a lisp-style language as the native language of an addon, the mod does Lua 5.2 and 5.3 by itself
       
 (DIR) Post #AANV3Hk8AaQBhgpHge by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-16T09:10:05.766155Z
       
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       @izaya @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy @pernia Nice!  RISC OS is something I have read a lot about (when I got into GBA stuff, the best ARM assembly documentation was at heyrick.co.uk, and he was mostly documenting Acorn RISC Machines; they sounded really cool), it strikes me as a really hacker-friendly OS, like the same way C64 and TempleOS are.  Unfortunately, I haven't gotten to play with one.> so I've discovered there's more failure modes than "program stuck" as well.I'm very interested.  I did basically no hacking on old MacOS or old Windows¹ so I haven't had to deal with this stuff from the other side.  What are the new and exciting failure modes?¹ I did have to write some software for Windows but that was essentially porting code I'd written; one guy wasn't very good with C, the other had "no non-free software" in his employment agreement², and I had done all the networking code so I had to make it speak WinSock.  I'm never typing "#ifdev WIN32" in a C file again.² We were on another project a long time before that, writing embedded code.  The chip programmer only had Windows drivers so we had a little garbage XP machine with VNC on it.  But he refused to ever interact with non-free software, so when he wanted to test on hardware, he would compile the code, copy the .hex file to his samba directory, walk over to the chip programmer, put the chip into it, and then ask me.  I would open the VNC viewer to get to the Windows machine, drag the new .hex file from his SMB share, and click "Go".
       
 (DIR) Post #AANVuNbn5nnbF8F6jQ by izaya@social.shadowkat.net
       2021-08-16T09:19:34.930141Z
       
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       @p @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy @pernia RISC OS runs on the Raspberry Pi so it's surprisingly accessible nowadays.Among others, some failure modes I've encountered:- Events being sent/received in the wrong order- Programs blocking indefinitely because of ^Though admittedly those are due to forcing programs to yield to get new events (which the mod itself forces, but I think it's a nice design for encouraging well-behaved programs.)Oddly enough, I've also had stuff stuck doing I/O and not yielding for events because I never bothered to make I/O go through the kernel.exokernel baybee
       
 (DIR) Post #AANbomrWszQrYPJwfo by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-16T10:25:54.665500Z
       
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       @izaya @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy @pernia > RISC OS runs on the Raspberry Pi so it's surprisingly accessible nowadays.Oh, nice.  I think I'd seen someone mention that (possibly you!).  I mean, old images don't run on it, probably (RISC OS-era ARM used the high four bits of r15 for the status flags instead of having a dedicated status register, so you couldn't get past 256MB of RAM, plus it had a bunch of BIOS routines for things that are instructions now), so did it get open-sourced and ported?  Or just ported?> - Events being sent/received in the wrong orderAH!  Yes.  This makes sense.> exokernel baybee :craysmile:
       
 (DIR) Post #AANc5hHesd2JAvbbto by izaya@social.shadowkat.net
       2021-08-16T10:28:52.883650Z
       
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       @p @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @meshy @pernia It's managed by RISC OS Open LimitedI think it's sort of in an OpenSolaris situation? It's at least partially open source but whether it complies with the GPL I'm not sure.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAOTftgxDw4HrS89FQ by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-16T20:29:21.261880Z
       
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       @p @izaya @djsumdog @dubh @meshy @pernia > he refused to ever interact with non-free software> when he wanted to test on hardware, he would compile the code, copy the .hex file to his samba directory, walk over to the chip programmer, put the chip into it, and then ask me.How utterly lazy. He's set up in a situation where to do his job, the one he's paid to do, he needs to bother someone else, every time a nonfree component shows up. Something tells me he dd'd his root directory and decided it was the software's fault, or made some other rudimentary and obvious mistake and decided "the system should have stopped me from making this obvious mistake, therefore, it's the software's fault".
       
 (DIR) Post #AAOePPDBsZQ0BvY0SO by pernia@freecumextremist.com
       2021-08-16T22:29:34.046982Z
       
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       @coyote @dubh @djsumdog @p @izaya @meshygniggers gonna gnig
       
 (DIR) Post #AAOeXcxucyELAEK0Rs by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-16T22:31:06.931974Z
       
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       @pernia @djsumdog @dubh @izaya @meshy @p The FOSS resistant are cognitively impaired through their own willful ignorance.
       
 (DIR) Post #AAOf2YH07fXzaYzoqe by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-16T22:36:42.666517Z
       
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       @pernia @djsumdog @dubh @izaya @meshy @p I maintain incompetent users should be on windows, and competent users should know how to do things without breaking things because they read the manuals and documentation, not simply expecting things to work and following error codes and ms specific forums, and sketchy third party tools that aren't ever vetted by anyone, and strange batch scripts that hopefully you can read and make sense of, and a whole bunch of "will that registry setting do anything or might it hose my system?"
       
 (DIR) Post #AAOf5rYStGKAG5kA1w by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-16T22:37:18.248970Z
       
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       @pernia @djsumdog @dubh @izaya @meshy @p they can have it all, I'll simply RTFM
       
 (DIR) Post #AAS7tixiUaAoHKzykq by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-18T14:44:12.556177Z
       
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       @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @izaya @meshy @pernia > How utterly lazy.Ha, believe it or not, he's just *that* hard-line about free software.  He is actually a really good coder, but he's kinda, like, extra autistic.  (Probably the maximum amount that you can be and still have a job.)  So he had a lot of quirks that made him difficult to work with, that was one of them.  (For three years, he ate one meal per day, the same meal, from the same Jack-in-the-Box:  Bacon Ultimate Cheeseburger, large order of fries, large Coke.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AASiBhqcyFMqNvYZWK by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-18T21:30:49.406417Z
       
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       @p @djsumdog @dubh @izaya @meshy @pernia this actually makes more sense somehow. Sorry for assuming
       
 (DIR) Post #AATuBJ6mLRD4GTeC7E by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-19T11:19:56.361531Z
       
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       @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @izaya @meshy @pernia Ha, no worries.I have never heard him talk about a girl at any point.  But he gets very excited if you are talking about Richard Stallman and Billy Corgan.I don't wanna dox him, but there's a good chance that most people around here have used his software.  I don't know what he's doing for money lately, but he is still making open-source stuff.
       
 (DIR) Post #AATuso4v4hEUliWI9g by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-19T11:27:47.269937Z
       
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       @p @djsumdog @dubh @izaya @meshy @pernia definitely don't dox anyone. It's clear I was misunderstanding if he's actually a FOSS superstar and had this clause anyway, but that means I understand even less >.<Also> Billy CorganWhat an asshole but damn could he play guitar and write songs
       
 (DIR) Post #AATxjTtJ3qcPPnKgqm by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-08-19T11:59:43.830559Z
       
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       @coyote @djsumdog @dubh @izaya @meshy @pernia > if he's actually a FOSS superstar and had this clause anywayI think you got the clause backwards.  "No non-free software", i.e., he wouldn't install anything that Stallman wouldn't install.
       
 (DIR) Post #AATzgnKIXo3WjSnwbA by coyote@lain.sh
       2021-08-19T12:21:38.209312Z
       
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       @p @djsumdog @dubh @izaya @meshy @pernia yeah, I do... 😔
       
 (DIR) Post #AAU74dYzC6Gl57zUSO by ceruds@sugoma.tk
       2021-08-19T13:44:23.741243Z
       
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       @p same lol
       
 (DIR) Post #AZNW1YnRXxv0tCQ1tQ by braxton231@shitpost.cloud
       2023-09-03T04:03:30.474059Z
       
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       @p what is misskey?
       
 (DIR) Post #AZO4PIsxkgFKvxUg0u by p@freespeechextremist.com
       2023-09-03T10:28:46.932963Z
       
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       @braxton231 ActivityPub server written in JavaScript:  https://github.com/misskey-dev/misskey .  Lately, its popularity is comparable to Pleroma's, if you only count the mainline of both and not the forks.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZO4YSIQ8IVmj6lVui by Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com
       2023-09-03T10:30:26.181868Z
       
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       @p @braxton231 It's extremely Japanese software.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZP0eyi1M2SRgsYedU by nishi@hkgk.nishi.boats
       2023-09-03T21:21:24.325097Z
       
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       @braxton231 @p smth which sucks so much
       
 (DIR) Post #AZP0fYFZDJ5Vv3WRHc by nishi@hkgk.nishi.boats
       2023-09-03T21:21:30.237958Z
       
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       @braxton231 @p and should be destroyed