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(DIR) Post #A9OKtQQdJWs1HrhENU by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T20:58:51.457481Z
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I honestly don't know what to say about all this except that it is fucking jarring to discover that radical feminists are so completely misogynist. Talk to me about woman-hating with all this grotesque, condescending speculation about my personal life. If you don't want understand to understand the message of my post because it's easier to label me 'pro-porn' (LO-FUCKING-L) you lose all credibility. I have always and continue to be anti-porn. I think it is harmful and gross in numerous ways. My point was ONLY that it is fucking retarded (not sorry don't @ me) to treat every single man who uses porn as an abusive misogynist and to cut them out of your life. Life and people are not so simple. Grow the fuck up. https://twitter.com/7Wimpund/status/1416085613309214720
(DIR) Post #A9OLMZENfLl0z8rSee by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:04:07.247577Z
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I am clearly trying to figure out effective ways to reach men and boys and get them to think harder about what they are consuming, without being hyperbolic, thereby losing credibility. This is going to come off as insulting to some (so be it), but I engaged in this way in the past, so am including myself in my own critique, but I read what some radical feminists say about men and porn and roll my eyes. It's so out of touch and just reads as clueless and embarrassing — as though they don't know any actual real men. Who is going to take your arguments about porn seriously when it becomes immediately clear your analysis is rooted in what was happening in the 80s? Or when your analysis acts as though ALL porn ALL men watch is literal rape? Like, *I* understand the analysis, but your average person — man or woman — is going to think you're nuts and is just going to shut down. I have been doing this work for a long time and I'm not going to be lectured about what porn is or what its impacts are. If you want to have a real conversation, great, but what I'm seeing from these so called 'radfems' who are SOOOO much more tough and not blinded by dick like little old me is a lack of integrity and reading comprehension.
(DIR) Post #A9OLbNDOcgQg3vSdZQ by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:02:50.459929Z
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@meghanmurphy Now that you’re here, just out of curiousity and I hope you have time to answer.How do you define “porn”? I’ve seen all manner of definitions from the “any sexually titillating material” to “eroticised violence against women”, and it’s difficult to really follow what’s going on, when I’m unsure as to which definition the participants are using.
(DIR) Post #A9OLbNhApyFTYHOPz6 by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:06:47.743590Z
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@Gnomeshatecheese I don't have a great definition tbh... It's a tough one. I think 'the graphic depiction of whores/prostitutes' (i.e. what I understand to be the meaning of the greek word 'porno' is useful... But that's totally imperfect too, because there's porny shit all over instagram that doesn't really fit that definition. Porn culture has melded pornorgraphic imagery with your basic instagram selfie.
(DIR) Post #A9OLefk4CFmAOKJboe by Sherri_Ingrey@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:06:38.548438Z
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@meghanmurphy anything you do of late is subject to attack! How dare you be het and attractive to start with? This reminds me of some of the bull that used to swing around in the 1970s, only then it was about women who WEREN'T ..... not everyone could be Germaine and Gloria, after all. ....
(DIR) Post #A9OLegB0a5KJjsv7oG by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:07:23.663309Z
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@Sherri_Ingrey idk like sorry I do like men I don't know what to tell these people. It doesn't make me stupid.
(DIR) Post #A9OLj4TWBJkaG3fkQK by Innocence@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:06:05.405497Z
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@meghanmurphy You were out there when there when no one else was, no terf army backing you up, so it always annoys me when people throw away all the respect you deserve because you said something they don't like. That said I don't think it's retarded at all to cut men out of your life if they use porn- if you don't need them they can go. Perfectly fine decision if a woman wants to make it.
(DIR) Post #A9OLj4uoXpaJciRXyC by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:08:11.206324Z
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@Innocence they seem to know my body of work, analysis, and innermost thoughts better than I. Pompous af
(DIR) Post #A9OLv09a4hUuKW2H5M by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:09:44.277032Z
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@meghanmurphy True about how main streaming porn culture has blurred the boundaries. I tend to operate on the more broad definition (“sexually titillating material, possibly intended to be titillating”), but that is quite a rare approach and it makes commenting on this difficult.
(DIR) Post #A9OLv0hy0r0G3A7jgO by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:10:20.262132Z
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@Gnomeshatecheese I don't think sexually titillating material works at all, because that would apply to film that does not constitute porn imo.
(DIR) Post #A9OMsrmuJ6xxl7ya6C by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:21:10.302611Z
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The notion that I would alter my opinions to appease men honestly just makes me think you've never read any of my work, listened to any of my talks or podcasts, watched my YouTube show, etc. Which is fine, but your opinion doesn't count, then. Like literally you have no fucking clue who I am if you can say that shit with a straight face. EVERY TIME I tell the truth I get attacked, lose donations, lose followers, etc. If I wanted to keep my audience and income, I'd just keep saying the same thing over and over again and never take any risks. My 'brand' is the fucking truth. https://twitter.com/derelictcyborg/status/1416111770440192009
(DIR) Post #A9ON6pU3fcS0fRokwy by Sycaid@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:20:42.153072Z
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@meghanmurphy I'm sorry some people have absolutely shitty reading comprehension skills, and are therefore deliberately misunderstanding the point you made with your original tweet and attacking you for it.I get that you're angry, but the slur wasn't necessary as well tho.
(DIR) Post #A9ON6qid4vhUUvduIi by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:23:41.417137Z
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@Sycaid I say that word all the time, honestly. I'm not going to pretend to be someone I'm not... Not trying to be rude, just real.
(DIR) Post #A9ONIef3jZmoZpbOMa by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:25:50.026480Z
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And, like, do you think I don't know this? I am WELL AWARE I lose money when I speak honestly about this stuff. Yet... I do it anyway. What does that tell you? I feel like I'm being bullied into goose stepping along with shit I don't totally buy into for money. CLEARLY that doesn't work on me good god where have you been all these years?? https://twitter.com/thelnebriati/status/1416156347335380996
(DIR) Post #A9ONmZbf5mHFaTHN6e by Kate_Kiss@glindr.org
2021-07-17T21:15:14Z
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I think the main thing about porn is that it is divorced from all of the caring and empathetic emotions. It is just the sexual urge and it treats people as things.@Gnomeshatecheese @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #A9ONpbVoSnIyMlzM5g by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:31:47.335674Z
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Let me be even more honest: the result of being treated in this way over and over again by self described radical feminists has led me to want nothing to do with radical feminists. I think far too many are hateful, unthinking, sexist cultists who demand conformity above all else and behave like unhinged, childish bullies to those who fail to toe the very precise line. Was this the goal? Excellent, then. Enjoy your wagon circling 👍
(DIR) Post #A9ONy1TNpFWbCOrmm8 by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:33:18.114727Z
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I choose real life and real people. And yeah that includes men (EEEK!). Why anyone would want to associate with these assholes is beyond me.
(DIR) Post #A9OO3Hwk0MiBjr6pnM by Sherri_Ingrey@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:20:07.964923Z
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@meghanmurphy nor me. I got Bindel arguing with me for like an hour on social media that I couldn't BE a second wave radical feminist because I was heterosexual and refused to make myself into an asexual for the cause.
(DIR) Post #A9OO3IPSHbgFAuXlYG by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:32:37.006990Z
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@Sherri_Ingrey She's hardcore advocate of "political lesbianism." You do you. No shame in the het game.@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #A9OO3IuePcdMjf8gAy by Sherri_Ingrey@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:33:14.905485Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @meghanmurphy as I said at the time, it's pure bullying considering as it's no skin off her nose.
(DIR) Post #A9OO3JNMgrbQAiZbvs by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:34:14.988165Z
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@Sherri_Ingrey @FemaleIsNotAFeeling yeah all from behind anon accounts too. Such integrity!
(DIR) Post #A9OOs2heRHX9ENFigi by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-17T21:43:25Z
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@meghanmurphy join the far Rightwe hate porn
(DIR) Post #A9OPSa3xswCp7U71Qe by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:49:12.517098Z
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@meghanmurphy Please don't broadbrush...you know what it's like. And you know what it's like to be cancelled. Don't cancel the Radfems, because of a few that are more abrasive than others. There are so many different views in this community. We don't follow any tenants. There are Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and all branches of politics here. Gay, lesbian, straight, bi - all here.You're always going to be attacked, Meghan. You are a public figure. That unfortunately comes with the territory. You'll always be criticized for what you say, because not everyone believes the same thing.Many of us here love you and don't want you to view us as enemies. I surely don't want you to view us as enemies. We need all the allies we can get...if we cancel each other out - what's left? We're all left standing alone. You were the first GC voice I found on YouTube, after I had started to peak a couple years back. I suffered silently inside my mind for over a year, while I tried to find someone outside of my libfem circle that felt the same way I did. I found you. I found gender critical theory. And I found my people. Thank you ❤Anyway, you spoke out and got fucked with. You've now set the record straight and there's still gunna be people that disagree, but that's life. Just keep rolling. We're with you!
(DIR) Post #A9OPdNxlDHLSmGMWmG by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:51:58.798597Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling It's never ending and been going on for years. I can't help but lose respect.
(DIR) Post #A9OPgauRXDvxnbLBjc by LuvGreenTea2019@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:46:51.035009Z
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@meghanmurphy I still respect you, but I'm not sure who you are anymore. This makes me uncomfortable. Professor Gail Dines is probably the expert on pornography because she has been doing the serious research and writing about porn for years. With all due respect, what have you done? Porn today is nothing like Playboy of the 1950's and 1960's. Women are being tortured in porn, and that is not an exaggeration. If this was being done to animals, animal rights activists would be protesting in the streets. Do you think prolapsed anuses, torn vaginas, STDs, chlamydia in their eyes and bacterial infections are just normal occupational hazards, and just good fun. What do you think of "double anal" where two men force their penis into a woman's anus? Does that sound like good, old fashioned fun? Google it, and there are 51,200,000 hits. Google porn and "slap the bitch", and get 2,730,000 hits. Isn't that fun? Google porn and "hit the bitch", and get 5,330,000 hits. Google "make the bitch gag", and there are 10,500,000 hits. Make no mistake. Men masturbate to this porn all the time. Damn rad fems need to STFU because it might upset the menz. Maybe women are entitled to our righteous anger.Maybe there is reason why more and more women are complaining that their boyfriends or husbands want to choke them during sex. Google it. "Dines describes the two porn streams consumers can now choose from: features and gonzo. Features, although still hard-core, have storylines and are not as rough as gonzo, making them more attractive to men who want to view porn with their female partners. Gonzo (also known as “wall to wall” because it depicts one sex scene after another) is “body punishing hard core porn” and is, according to Dines, what many users prefer.Cheap to make and one of the biggest money-makers for the industry, gonzo is known for inventing new sex acts like multiple men penetrating all three female orifices at the same time; double anal penetration; double vaginal penetration; throat fucking that makes women gag and vomit; bukkake, where many men ejaculate on a woman’s face or in her mouth; and ATM—which, in porn parlance, is ass to mouth.According to Dines, these acts take a significant toll on women’s bodies. Women in porn have walked away with prolapsed anuses, torn vaginas, STDs, chlamydia in their eyes and bacterial infections, which are of particular concern in ATM because the penis is withdrawn from a woman’s anus and immediately shoved in her mouth."http://www.herizons.ca/node/449
(DIR) Post #A9OPgbNVn9BbFkwP2m by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:52:33.725892Z
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@LuvGreenTea2019 what have I done? Is that a joke?
(DIR) Post #A9OPjzH3P6naEXXD8K by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:53:10.816100Z
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@amerika what on earth are you responding to? Did you read what I wrote?
(DIR) Post #A9OR0GbkpBvOa5XlfE by fpcgggc@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T22:07:19.767122Z
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I’m a woman with porn addiction and I think that yes we should absolutely shame everyone who watches porn and that all porn is shameful trash, but no watching porn doesn’t make you an evil person incapable of forgiveness… makes you a person with an unhealthy addiction that promotes abuse and torture of women.@meghanmurphy @LuvGreenTea2019
(DIR) Post #A9ORCQ21c5MHHccsee by Cousin_Isobel@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T22:07:32.099264Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @meghanmurphy These are my sentiments, exactly.Meghan, I appreciate all that you've done and continue to do for women. I honestly haven't even taken the time to think about how to treat men who consume porn. I am against pornography because I consider it to be financially coerced sex (that is, rape) that has been filmed for male enjoyment; I'm against this before we even get to the part about filming. I think it's great if you are taking the time and energy to help move men away from consuming pornography.More than anything, I want us to stop in-fighting. When I say "us" I mean that as broadly as possibly. I have always stopped short of calling myself a "radical feminist," but only because I've seen daunting lists of requirements and I don't feel like seeing if I qualify.Actual feminism (any feminism that acknowledges that women exist and is intended to benefit women as a class) has no money, no government support, and no mainstream media support. Anyone within that movement is already being attacked plenty.This is why I stopped criticizing a certain British adult human female. She was right to say that anyone who didn't like what she was doing should just go and do their own, better thing. I have not come close to accomplishing that, and probably never will, but I am doing things.
(DIR) Post #A9ORFhMbd7RLuEogPw by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:11:32.879690Z
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@meghanmurphy I know, it’s not perfect. If you remove the intention from the definition, you end up with “in the crotch of the beholder” and that has its own problems. So I do tend to include intention in the definition, but I’m still unsure about it too.
(DIR) Post #A9ORPjUEaj7jO1AYfA by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T22:11:35.589323Z
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@meghanmurphy I understand...repetition can absolutely wear a person down over time. At the very least for what it's worth, please know that there's still many in the RadFem community that fully support you and will continue to.In the meantime while you take a breather to focus on you and to do what you need to/figure out whats best for you...just please consider the future possibility of leaving that bridge between you and the RadFem community, standing. ❤ Just think about it. Burning bridges is pretty final. Whatever you choose though, it's your right to choose it.
(DIR) Post #A9OSgyO4XoPgTd4Vea by LuvGreenTea2019@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T22:21:05.277052Z
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@meghanmurphy I know that you have done a lot of important work on different feminist subjects, but I don't believe you are an expert on pornography. And, it appears that you are rather naive about how harmful it is. I do appreciate most of your work....
(DIR) Post #A9OSgyrUmPwtwsq0W0 by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T22:26:15.033346Z
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@LuvGreenTea2019 you're wrong, sis
(DIR) Post #A9OTePO9nV2lJ0S6tM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-17T22:36:58Z
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@meghanmurphy we are no longer in the age of "what is the good porn"we are in the age of "porn y/n"this addresses your question about comprehensibility to the average person
(DIR) Post #A9OTfrewAnwVH6zmXg by BitterFleabane@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T22:15:23.863748Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @meghanmurphyWell said.When I first realized something was seriously wrong with transsexuality, I went furtively, guiltily googling, not knowing what terms to use (had never heard of TERF or GC) and I found Feminist Current and Meghan's articles helped me escape the shame of feeling that I was a bigoted thought criminal. Thank you, Meghan, I admire what you've done. I feel queasy about porn, and might disagree with what Meghan has said about it--I'm still trying to find exactly what I think about porn in general--but in this battle we need to stick together despite disagreements and not get stuck on ideological purity. It's important to discuss disagreements, but surely we can refrain from attacks? I'm seeing both Meghan and some TRAs absolutely at each other's throats here. Rhetoric needs to be dialed down on both sides. As @femaleisnotafeeling said, as a public figure Meghan is going to get angrily attacked a lot, but it shouldn't come from here. We are in a multi-front war, and we can't afford to attack allies. I'm not a radfem, and some of the things radfems say hurt me and make me want to ditch the whole thing, but to who else am I going to talk about my TRA/porn anger? I need you guys.
(DIR) Post #A9OTqGL3GsHeiDeVay by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T22:39:07.975131Z
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@amerika again, what are you responding to?
(DIR) Post #A9OU5pmjlQoczX1kDw by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-17T22:41:55Z
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@meghanmurphy obviously your paragraph-long ranthere is its confusion"Like, *I* understand the analysis, but your average person — man or woman — is going to think you're nuts and is just going to shut down."join the far Rightwe hate pornthis is a consistent view, not based in academic rambling or an attempt to differentiate between good/bad forms of porn
(DIR) Post #A9OUG9dIpDXtRbXFNA by yishengqingwa666@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T22:31:10.057386Z
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@meghanmurphy @LuvGreenTea2019 https://www.culturereframed.org/https://antipornfeminists.wordpress.com/https://fightthenewdrug.org/http://stoppornculture.org/
(DIR) Post #A9OUGA3BH0FIjrdui0 by Dingo123@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T22:39:47.263299Z
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@yishengqingwa666 I was exposed to porn when I was a pre-teen . I have become a Porn addict. Porn damaged my Brain in so many ways. I have seen things I wish I have forgotten. What changed my mind completely of Porn was when I say The Deprogrammer youtube channel videos about Porn and Sex Dolls. When I realized how damaging Porn is for Women and children I stopped immediately watching Pornography.
(DIR) Post #A9OY4w7h76SIAwenq4 by Sherri_Ingrey@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T21:15:22.078286Z
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@meghanmurphy I just post the articles about "feminists" that trash other women because they don't seem to hear themselves. They aren't out there doing interviews and getting posters put up about them, they are hiding behind fake names and worrying about getting doxxed.
(DIR) Post #A9OY4waPOLQLc05jay by yishengqingwa666@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T22:56:18.354896Z
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@Sherri_Ingrey @meghanmurphy If I was doxed, I'd lose my job and my home.
(DIR) Post #A9Oj2qyiN02H8TfMvI by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T01:29:29.321115Z
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@meghanmurphy @amerika @amerika IS FROM noagendasocial.com AND SEEMS TO WANT YOU TO JOIN IN THE FAR RIGHT!https://spinster.xyz/@amerika@noagendasocial.com/posts/A9NaNRhSeXNUb3PaqGIT ALWAYS HELPS TO REVIEW WHAT INSTANCE (WHAT COMES AFTER THE @ ON THEIR USER NAME). SOMEONE IS FROM IN ORDER TO SEE IF YOU SHOULD TAKE THEIR OPINION WITH A PILLAR OF SALT INSTEAD OF A GRAIN OF IT. ANYWAYS I'M A FRIES BEFORE GUYS WOMAN MYSELF. I HAVE LATELY WANTED TO BE BLUNT ABOUT PORN TOWARDS MEN BEFORE INVESTING IN THEM EMOTIONALLY, IT'S HARD TO FIGHT SOCIAL ETIQUETTE BUT IF I JUST ASKED "HEY HAVE YOU EVER THOUGTH ABOUT ANY OF THE WOMEN IN PORN BEING FILMED RAPE VICTIMS, IT'S HARD TO SEGWAY AFTER THAT. SO, HERE A HAMSTER:
(DIR) Post #A9OkMWrixTNsVFLI5Q by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T01:44:14.701137Z
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@meghanmurphy @LuvGreenTea2019 IF I'VE LEARNED ANYTHING FROM THIS CONVERSATION, IT'S THAT I SHOULD START TELLING MEN I DATE ABOUT THE SERIES OF VIDEOS I HAVE.THEY'RE ALL OF MEN GLEEFULLY OFFERING THEIR SCALPS (BLOOD VESSALS AND ALL, SOME MEN MIGHT BE DRUGGED TO THE GILLS, SOME WHILE IN DESPARATE STRAIGHTS, SOME WHO CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH, SOME WHO'VE BEEN LURED BY PROMISES OF HAIR GROWTH, EVEN THOUGH HE WAS TOO DUMB TO REALIZE THE HAIR GROWTH WAS FOR ME) AND TALK ABOUT HOW I REALLY NEED THAT HAIR AND HOW THE MAJORITY OF WOMEN HAVE VIDEOS LIKE THIS. EVEN IF WOMEN AREN'T GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT. THEY STILL HAVE THE VIDEOS.I WILL HAVE THESE VIDEOS CATAGORIZED BY INSULTING RACIAL SLURS WITH ZERO CONCERN FOR ANYONE'S CULTURE, TO THE POINT OF IMITATING IT PURELY OFFENSIVELY. I'LL USE LABELS THAT FORCE THE FOCUSE OF REMOVING A MAN FROM BEING A PART OF A COMMUNITY AND ALL BOUT THAT SCALP. I SHALL LOOK AT BALD MEN AS IF THEY'RE USELESS. BECAUSE THEY ARE.I SHALL LAUGH AT MEN WHO ARE UNNERVED BY MY LITTLE HABIT.AS WELL ALL KNOW WOMEN HAVE THEIR OWN DESIRES TO CONTROL AND USE MEN...FOR THEIR HAIR AND SKIN, BLOOD VESSALES AND NERVE ENDINGS. BECAUSE IF A BUNCH OF WOMEN COME OUT ABOUT THEIR CAPILLUM PROBLEMS, MAYBE THEN THE DIVIDE BETWEEN THE SEXES WILL HEAL. IT'LL BE A MESSY SCAR. I SUPPOSE ONE SIDE HAS TO OFFER THE STITCHES. I'D PREFER A WOMEN ARE LIVING NO PORN OR NO PIVING STRIKE MYSELF. BUT I CAN TAKE COMFORT IN MY VIDEOS TO TIDE ME OVER TILL I GET THAT BABBY JUICE.
(DIR) Post #A9OkaKBSuACXE49d3o by LuvGreenTea2019@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T01:41:16.086266Z
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@BCLADY @meghanmurphy @amerika Hamster, that is a good one...
(DIR) Post #A9OkaKkumMYd00jwJc by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T01:46:44.471391Z
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@LuvGreenTea2019 @amerika @meghanmurphy I LIKE FRIES!THEY CAN STAY ON MY THIGHS FOREVER! GOOD MEMORIES!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGREwcJVP7k
(DIR) Post #A9OlTgCWkOHjRD2wCG by tangleofsnakes@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T01:56:44.659815Z
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@BCLADY Wow, Rhonda is a master of suspenseful YouTube titles @LuvGreenTea2019 @amerika @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #A9Omh1V8xrbRDagGDA by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T02:10:21.871263Z
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@tangleofsnakes @LuvGreenTea2019 @amerika @meghanmurphy I AGREE.I WATCHED IT. I WAS NOT DISAPPOINTED.
(DIR) Post #A9On4aYsmFh6cGfNNQ by Linnas@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T23:01:35.210094Z
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@Cousin_Isobel @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @meghanmurphy While I think it is important to critically evaluate any information regardless of where it came from, the criticism should be expressed on the same playing field and be focused of the topic (i.e. Julia Long’s review of Kathleen Stock’s book). Anonymous criticism focused on personal attacks and smearing is abhorrent.Also, I happen to think Megan has a point, although my starting point is different. The transtheoretical model (also known as the stages of change model) is well-know is psychology: a person cannot move from precontemplation to termination of a certain habit or addictive behaviour without going through a number of stages in between. It is just not going to happen.We know where we want to be when it comes to porn. We must have a conversation on how to get there.
(DIR) Post #A9Oqp6U2ixYentH4HA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T02:56:37Z
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@BCLADY @meghanmurphy most of the women in porn are mostly victims of drug abusebut, it's not a healthy thingerotica, maybe... porn is more like budweiserhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFA02CpcLlo
(DIR) Post #A9OqrEJIazObenGLr6 by Sycaid@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T02:32:14.039662Z
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@amerika Pretty sure the far-right loves porn as much as the far left; ya'll just lie about not liking it. 🙄
(DIR) Post #A9OqrEqcb63DK8qxnM by Mariposa@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T02:54:12.450254Z
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@Sycaid That oldest Duggar son was arrested for having a ton of it, and some of the worst there is.@amerika
(DIR) Post #A9OqrFUKDToHJHQfgG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T02:57:01Z
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@Mariposa @Sycaid aren't they christian civnats though?
(DIR) Post #A9P6fbW25imDQ1hI00 by BeachBleach@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T05:54:12.656525Z
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@Sycaid @amerika Porn consumption is higher in the South, I believe.
(DIR) Post #A9P8hLbaPtSwYqFo0m by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T06:16:56.153058Z
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@Sycaid @amerika YUP.YOU CAN SEE IT IN CHRISTIAN PATRIARICHAL CULTURES,YOU CAN SEE IT IN ISLAMIC PATRIARICHAL CULTURES, YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE CONFUSIOUS PATRIARCHIAL CULTURE OF YORE...HELL, THE KAMA SUTRA IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE. https://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/2013/01/29/kamasutra-vs-patriarchy/ I'M LEARNING ABOUT IT NOW!THESE ALL INVOLVE MEN PUTTING WOMEN DOWN AS SECONDARY BEINGS. THERE TO SERVE MEN. INCLUDING SEXUALLY OR AS BABBY MAKERS. THE WHOLE HIARCHY THING IN THE FAR RIGHT IS PUTTING WOMEN DOWN AS SUBSERVIENT TO MEN. MEN WHO ARE POWER HUNGRY LIKE TREATING PEOPLE AS TOOLS AND OBJECTS. THAT INCLUDES WOMEN, MOST FREQUENTLY SEXUALLY. THEY MAKE DEPICTIONS OF THIS. THAT'S PORN.CONTRIBUTING TO FOLLOWING THE LEADER WHO HAS A PENIS IS ONLY GOING TO HURT WOMEN NO MATTER THE BULLSHIT PROMISES. SOME FAR RIGHT MAN MIGHT PUNISH OTHERS FOR BEING OVERT IN REGARDS TO PORN, BUT IT'S FUCKING HILARIOUS THAT ANYONE IS GOING TO PRETEND THAT THE AUTHORITATIVE DICKS WHO WANT A UNIFIED CULTURE ARE GOING TO BE KIND TO WOMEN. IF ANYTHING THEY'LL BE HAPPY TO HAVE A DISPOSIBLE CLASS OF WOMEN TO HURT. THEY JUST WANT TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHO. LET'S NOT FORGET HOW WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE HURT IN WARS.WHETHER IT'S RELIGIOUS, CULTURAL OR CAPITALISTIC, IN WAR MEN ALWAYS FUCK OVER WOMEN AND CHILDREN.FUCK THAT.
(DIR) Post #A9P9YIirrezWy7uTei by woktavia@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T00:42:27.597690Z
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@meghanmurphy We often spend time on those spaces assuming that most men don't see us as persons. Those assumptions do not come from nowhere, but in the case of porn consumers, men and women, it leaves absolutely no room for interpretation: women = a varied assortment of products. The men driving the demand are making a choice that is simply impossible to conciliate with interacting with them as normal humans, no matter the growing size of their cohort. Our lives loose nothing of value by cutting them off of our affections (friends, relatives, partners...). Their salvation is a contemptible unicorn, even more so when it's a woman who tries to do the work, to reach them. When was the last time this empathetic stategy ever worked? If anything, the only persons on this planet that have the slightest chance to convince men to slow down on their lifestyle of perpetual indulgence, are other men. I see nothing pragmatic about moving on from feminist work aimed at women to feminist work aimed at men. Truly it's conscientiously choosing to not have any impact anymore, because the credential that matters the most to all men, is being one yourself.Now, if we are entertaining the idea that this message could even end up read by these not-feminist out-of-the-mill men and finally waking them up to our humanity and the limits on our 'use' it implies, there's no workaround that doesn't include for women to hang around a little while longer until these dudes sort themselves out. And that's a problem because women should not hang around a little longer. None of these lot are worth that effort. There's is a huge portion of mankind that is actively ruining everything they touch as a result of limitless self-centering, porn is but a symptom amongst many, and the only action worth taking is absolutely reducing to a maximum their reach and their influence on us, and teaching women to run on sight. Plenty of decent people in this world to bond with.
(DIR) Post #A9PBj8jdXQyL5QZ8Vs by PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
2021-07-18T06:50:52.878264Z
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@meghanmurphy Ohhhh! Welcome to the fediverse! ヾ(＾▽＾) I'm not a radfem but I'm somewhat sympathetic to radfem causes and I know enough to know that you're a leading figure of that movement. But I'm not sure what your approach is to men consuming porn.I can agree that porn is harmful to women and men. But... I think this is just one of those societal problems that are better dealt with from the top-down rather than the bottom-up. We're at a point where hardly anybody is in a long-term relationship or marriage and men are really coming out on the bottom of that. Possibly due to economic factors. And it's also an "easy" source of income for women to register on OnlyFans or some such service and degrade themselves not knowing what they're getting into. I see porn as a poor substitute for things that both sexes need. Like fast-food. You can't tell somebody that's time poor and working two jobs to not eat fast food because it's bad for them and fast-food employees are being exploited. You're better off doing something about the material circumstances behind them being forced to work two jobs and also that laws that allow for fast-food companies to exploit workers.Of course, you could push for legislation to make porn illegal but you won't get a lot of support you if it means their substitute for companionship and their source of income is under threat.
(DIR) Post #A9PBoqZxxFZqVwlPaS by anon00110@kiwifarms.cc
2021-07-18T06:51:52.950735Z
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@PonyPanda @meghanmurphy I stopped reading at your lies about not being a radfem... pfft.
(DIR) Post #A9Po0c9DEVM9UNHv72 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T13:59:47Z
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@BeachBleach @Sycaid Until you track to an ethnicity, it's not clear that this is conservatives afoot.Lot of African-Americans, Mexicans, and now CALIFORNIANS in the South
(DIR) Post #A9Po47uXat9Us06HVg by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T14:00:26Z
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@BCLADY @Sycaid patriarchy = men handle certain roles because women hamster themmatriarchy = found in many impoverished, violent, and rape-ridden places worldwidefeminism is for nitwits (it's a form of egalitarianism)
(DIR) Post #A9PrSNAWoi6r0Ipbdp by Berco@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T12:03:18.732987Z
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@meghanmurphy I respect the work that you have done for women. You were there early and spoke out courageously. But to trash all radical feminists is unbecoming and rash. I don't see that you wrote or said anything to warrant what a few women have said to you, but if those women call themselves radical feminists (and she described herself as "feminist" only on twitter) that is only their form, and they should not and cannot speak for or determine what a radical feminist is. We know there are many stupid things said on social media, in particular, twitter, where misunderstandings are prevalent and unresolved. What you dismiss, though, as you must know, (I am from the USA) is a whole amazing herstory of courageous, wonderous women who have fought for and even won women's rights, written texts which women of many generations have gone by, founded women's shelters, rape crisis centers, protested, planned and strategized, etc. It would be sad if you, with your influential female voice, were to dismiss the most radical among us because of some women who do not speak for most of us. You know that being a woman with recognition, and a voice to be heard, gets you people who trash you to feel more powerful themselves. Would be great if you could just ignore them, and especially some of the shit that is shoveled on twitter etc. Why waste energy responding to every hollow attack? Listening to sensible, constructive criticism is valuable, the rest not. Radical feminists have always been at the forefront of all the battles women have fought, and many are lesbians because we are not held back by any loyalty to men. I am proud to call myself a radical feminist and I would not like it forgotten how essential we are to the struggle you are also in. Let's not forget that radical feminism is the critique of the male power structures set up to oppress women. It gets to the root of our oppression, and names male violence, male dominance of women like no other women's ideology. I would hope we, radical feminists and you, can keep the dialog open.
(DIR) Post #A9Q0yOX2BSu05Lhbw8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T16:25:03Z
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@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid I think that's the big joke in porn.There's people having sex... and then the watcher, who's sitting there masturbating and not improving his life.Sort of like strip clubs. You show up, you pay, you go home and masturbate.Masturbation. It's the metaphor for Late Stage Democracy.
(DIR) Post #A9Q1iWnDnlDF1lGvEe by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T16:33:24Z
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@Emperor1Did You say Látte stage retardation?@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9Q1kyuaEBPuobswoS by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T16:33:51Z
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@Emperor1Ill have to think about this.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9Q29ZDksmHqNOZmHQ by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T16:38:18Z
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@meghanmurphyDang thats interesting thread. Im not specialist but I see some reasons why this phenomenon might have been strengthening lately. Ill try to share what I heard from some taxi stories.
(DIR) Post #A9Q2LBVirWTEJcWIFM by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T16:40:24Z
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@Emperor1Just thinking loudly.Interesting question as of whether end of democracy and strengthening of porn culture etc have some common denominator.Hmmmmm.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9Q33jarVJiIlOAOie by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T16:48:25Z
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@Emperor1Ok. At least on left side they question democracy hard. They question everything. Some on right are weary of democracy too when having to negotiate with "communists".Another aspect is lets assume 52% of society are dumb. What outcome does democracy bring.Ok lets safely assume democracy is at some crisis. So is family. So are relationships due to extreme feminism. So is sex.Do we see pattern now?@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9Q3869xXuDXuQfEuW by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T16:49:14Z
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@Emperor1When people are tired of family reproduction relationships sex othergender etc.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9Q3E3o7CkakLpI1EO by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T16:50:17Z
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@Emperor1What purpose im not sure. Prolly relieving stress while being unable or unwilling to do it classical way.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9Q3Jps3vsSyrjtE5Q by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T16:51:21Z
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@Emperor1Just in process of reading dawn of democracy by anne appelbaum.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9Q42Vcw2uFf6y7G52 by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T16:59:25Z
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@Emperor1Some are by majority some by some groups id assume. I could refer to each one of these and we could discuss.For democracy i guess its clear left is against it and so are conservatives.Now family, leftys question it, right wants strengthen or defend it but doesnt know how. Polarization at best.Now relationships. Feminists ate tired and fed up of men and men are fed of feminists.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9Q44GWJBSiUpyr0Ns by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T16:59:44Z
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@Emperor1Now good ole sex, its getting harder and harder to hunt down someone with similar worldview sooo.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9Q4MTksiOCp67M5LM by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T17:03:01Z
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@Emperor1Hmm.Yes asexualism on one hand, incelism on another due to growing expectations.We no longer know who is and who isnt woman.If i meet lady at the bar will she have a cock or am i safe?Feminists vs men vs effeminate gay males etc every group against every other group.This doesnt look too good.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9Q4VWKiV1c3hQQbwm by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T17:04:39Z
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@Emperor1Ok. Yes mostly but if you say hello how are you and get back an oh youre white i wished i could murder all crackers etc. Id posit some basic compatibility would be nice to have.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9Q4s4FP5U1vFmh6ky by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T17:08:45Z
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@Emperor1Or maybe im doing it wrongly.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9QFVZWXjeGh5iBemu by Swapnabala@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T18:51:49.361582Z
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@meghanmurphy I agree with your point that it is impossible to cut out every man who watches porn from your personal and professional life. It's obviously common sense because I don't go around asking men (& women) if they watch porn. I think legal/gov action against porn companies will be more effective that removing ppl from your social circle.I'm not really sure why you think radfems are doing this, it seems like smth some of them say out of anger. Most radfems aren't separatists & have relationships with men. Even though I mostly agree with you, I was also kind of confused by that post. Most of the replies to Wimpund's tweet are expressing disagreement or trying to explaining what you might mean so please don't attack and try to shut down discussion because of a few personal attacks.
(DIR) Post #A9QGmJawJQaGZ5n6Qq by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T19:22:10.915510Z
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@Emperor1 @Sycaid @amerika "BUT ISN'T THERE A LOT OF PORN WHERE WOMEN DEGRADE MEN?"ASKS THE MAN WHO DOESN'T LOOK INTO WHO'S JACKING OFF TO SAID PORN AND THEREFORE PUSHING THE COMODIFICATION OF SAID MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN. YES, MEN ARE TREATED LIKE OBJECTS IN PORN TOO. I NEVER CLAIMED OTHERWISE JUST BECAUSE MY FOCUS IS ON WOMEN. THESE MEN GENERALLY ALSO HAVE DRUG PROBLEMS, ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE VIAGRA TO PERFORM EVEN THOUGH THEY WOULDN'T REQUIRE IT FOR A NORMAL SEX LIFE AND THEY TOO CAN HAVE THINGS LIKE RIPPED ANUSES.A REALLY STARK CONTRAST IS HOW IN HET PORN WOMEN CAN'T DEMAND COMDONS WHILE IN GAY DO BECAUSE OF THE AIDS CRISES. IT'S LIKE YOU'RE ARUGING THAT "LESBIAN" PORN EXISTS SO THERE MUST BE A LOT OF ABUSIVE LESBIANS OUT THERE WITHOUT EVER TALKING TO AN ACTUAL LESBIAN IN REAL LIFE ABOUT HOW SHE FEELS OF THE CONCEPT OF "A MAN HAVING A LESBIAN FANTASY BUT ONLY CALL IT LESBIAN" PORN. WHO IS IT THAT OWNS THE PORN COMPANIES, WHAT SEX ARE THEY, HOW MUCH DO THEY RELATE TO THE FEELING/THINKING/TRAFFICKED WOMEN BEING BRUTALISED IN PORN? HOW MUCH DO THEY RELATE TO THE MEN BEING BRUTALISED?ARE THERE NOT CHILDREN SEXUALLY ABUSED AND FILMED IN PORN? SHOULD WE WONDER HOW MUCH RESPONSIBILITY THEY HAVE IN REGARDS TO THE WHOLE THING? SURELY, BECAUSE TEENS AND TWEENS ON THE INTERNET MAY COME ACROSS PORN IT MAKES SENSE TO QUESTION THEIR RESPONSIBILITY IN THE PROCESS. RIGHT? WHO CARES ABOUT THE CONSUMERS WHO SPEND ACTUAL MONEY ON PORN, WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON THERAPY? WHO CARES ABOUT THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE FULLY INVESTEDTimothy Stokely AND Bernard Bergemar APPRICATE YOUR CONCERN FOR THE PART WOMEN PLAY AS PORN CONSUMERS! EQUALITY MUST MEAN THAT MEN AND WOMEN BEHAVE THE SAME WAYS, RIGHT????I'M SURE THERE'S TONS OF WOMEN WHO ARE SPENDING MONEY ON WATCHING WOMEN LIKE THEMSELVES NOT BE SEXUALLY SATISFIED WHILE LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH ABOUT HOW GREAT BEING BRUTALISED IS. YUP. YOU GOT ME THERE PALNEVERMIND THE FACT THAT THERE'S A FUCKING GROUP ARGUING FOR WOMEN TO BE CONSIDERED NOT A PHYSICAL SEX BUT A CLUB FOR MEN AND WOMEN WHO LIKE WEARING SKIRTS OR WHATEVER. DON'T. MISTAKE. A FETISH. FOR A. POWERSTRUCTURE. OR DAMN, IDK GO THEORETICALLY QUESTIONS TEENAGERS FOR THE OBESITY EPIDEMIC BECAUSE THEY WORK AT MCDONALDS, SO OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM AND THE FOCUS MUST BE ON THEM EVEN IN HYPOTHETICALS. FUCK ANYONE WHO'S GONNA LOOK AT WHO OWNS THE COMPANIES, LOBBIES FOR FAST FOOD OR PROFITS OFF OF IT.
(DIR) Post #A9QGwA0CpdFJi6ItVI by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T19:23:57.103975Z
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@Emperor1 @Sycaid @amerika
(DIR) Post #A9QH4M7tdfF5d3oD1E by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T19:25:26.528839Z
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@amerika @Sycaid ALL RIGHT YOU DUMB ALT RIGHT.TIME TO MUTE BECAUSE THIS STHICK AIN'T CUTE.
(DIR) Post #A9QIw7Ih4pKLEt3flY by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T19:46:22.029113Z
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@amerika @BeachBleach @Sycaid WOW. GROSS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT ETHNICITY DOES THE MOST RAPING?THE ONE WITH A PENIS. DIPSHIT. YOU CLEARLY DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THE HISTORY OF WHAT WHITE MEN DID TO THE INDEGENOUS PEOPLES OF THE AMERICAS, MUCH LESS WHAT WHITE MEN DID TO FIRST NATIONS WOMEN, NEVER MIND THINGS LIKE HOW JAPANESE MEN TREATED CHINESE WOMEN IN WORLD WAR II OR HOW IDK ALL SORTS OF COUNTRIES TREATED THEIR OWN GROUPS OF WOMEN AS SOLDIER FACTORIES/SOLDIER MORAL BOOSTERS VIA ALLOWING RAPE.YOU COULD GO GET A HOBBY AND FIND AN ACTION YOU'RE GOOD AT SO YOU STOP EMBARASSING EVERYONE. YOU COULD STOP PRETENDING THAT YOUR GENETICS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR OWN LACK OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS.BUT I SUPPOSE PRETENDING THAT SOME MYSTERIOUS SUPIRIOR RACE EXISTSS IS ALL YOU HAVE TO CLING TO BECAUSE YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING WITH YOUR LIFE.
(DIR) Post #A9QLzIh1TaxFIreDa4 by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T20:20:32.593172Z
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@Swapnabala i'd be more inclined to take them seriously if they actually read what I wrote and didn't say idiotic things like 'she's pro porn now', 'she's a sellout', 'she called a woman a bitch' (which I did not -- i was referring to myself/making a joke lol). They're either stupid or they're liars and I'm not going to pretend any different. Identifying as a radical feminist doesn't give you a pass to lie or be an asshole.
(DIR) Post #A9QMA4L9BEMzySYBE0 by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T20:22:29.187551Z
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@Berco perhaps in that case radical feminists might speak out against those representing themselves as radical feminists while engaging in this crap, seeing as these are the people claiming to rep the movement.
(DIR) Post #A9QTs8poWuTCKorC5Y by harpyharpyharpy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T20:58:47.432389Z
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@meghanmurphy Can I simply ask why it’s “retarded” to cut open porn users out of your life? What practical harms result?
(DIR) Post #A9QTs9TAAbwgIrGcQC by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T21:48:53.086498Z
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@harpyharpyharpy have you ever left your house? Do you interact with men at all? It's just not realistic unless you isolate yourself completely.
(DIR) Post #A9QUWQC9P70jlBVn4i by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T19:47:04.624213Z
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@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid @amerika Where? If you can provide sources I’m genuinely interested to know.
(DIR) Post #A9QUWQj7QXNlPQw7Si by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T21:56:10.707466Z
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@AbolishPregnancy @Emperor1 @Sycaid @amerika I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S JUST DOMINATRIX STUFF, WHERE MEN GET OFF ON THE IDEA OF HUMILATION.I WOULD ASSUME SOMEONE MIGHT BE HAPPY TO GET YOU TO LOOK AT PORN SITES. EVERY ONE WHO IS FILMED IN THE MAKING OF SEXUAL GENITAL MOVEMENTS IS OBJECTIFIED. THE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT OR WHAT THEIR LIMITS ARE BECAUSE THEY ARE COHERSED. NO ONE CAN CONSENT WHEN MONEY'S INVOLVED AND IT ONLY TAKES A LITTLE READING ABOUT PORN COMPANY OWNERS BEING SUED FOR TRAFFICKING TO SEE THAT THE PEOPLE BEING FILMED ARE LIED TOO, PRESSURED AND FORCED TO FAKE ENJOYMENT OF BRUTALITY. THIS IS THE SORT OF "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MEN" ARGUMENT THAT'S SO BASIC, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY I RESPONDED TBH. BUT..BUT SOME WOMEN ACT BAD TOO! SO I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO EXAMINE MY OWN CHOICES OR HOW OTHERS ARE IMPACTED BY PORN BECAUSE I CAN JUST PRETEND THAT THERE'S EQUAL TREATMENT. DOUCHCANOE PROBABLY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A UTI IS MUCH LESS WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE SEXUALLY OBJECTIFIED BY GROWN ASS MEN AS SOON AS YOU GET BOOBS.MEN GET SO UPSET THAT WOMEN ARE ABLE TO STATE THE BASIC FACT THAT IT'S MEN THAT ARE WHAT DRIVES THE SEXUAL OBJECTIFICATION OF WOMEN, CHILDREN AND, YEAH, EVEN OTHER MEN. YOUCAN LEARN TO CONTROL YOUR SPERM. AND PREVENT FORREST FIRES. AND SHAME OTHER MEN FOR NOT CONTROLLING THEIRS.
(DIR) Post #A9QVnVuJWEc8Lysn7Q by Yemaya@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T22:09:49.193116Z
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@meghanmurphy Well you know nowadays the public has become pretty unbearable🤷♀️@harpyharpyharpy
(DIR) Post #A9QVnWLxrQjRjjosDY by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T22:10:28.143738Z
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@Yemaya @harpyharpyharpy I love people off the internet. I can't stand the way people behave online is all.
(DIR) Post #A9QW2aZ2UG9n8l7VGi by FSI@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T22:12:04.261040Z
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@meghanmurphy @harpyharpyharpy I think Meghan has a right to call for being open to conversation with porn users and I think women have a right to passionately disagree with her article. I stay off Twitter for sanity purposes but I did read the thread and I thought many good points critical of the argument were made, and imo most weren't personal attacks. Some were but when you're in the public eye, that's always going to happen. I don't think the attacks represent the majority of rad fem readers. I want to argue that rad fems need to give each other some slack - let writers who are constantly taking chances make mistakes, (though many would say this wasn't a mistake) and not tolerate personal attacks on people who obviously have good intentions and do a lot of good work. And also let people passionately disagree without watering down their opinions. It might be a fine line but i believe it can be done with conscious intention.This conflict reminded me of a discussion on YouTube a few months back between MK Fain and Sasha White. They did an awessome job of modeling honest, passionate, and respectful disagreement on this very issue. Mk makes some very powerful points calling into question whether you can ever consider porn as consentually made. https://youtu.be/n3H7qTZRrBo
(DIR) Post #A9QW7QVXIvbrOlmwSW by harpyharpyharpy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T22:12:08.479382Z
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@meghanmurphy It was my understanding that the radfems suggest refusing to have sex with or date porn users or (for some) count them among your friends, and that this is what is meant by cutting people off for porn. Are you saying they’re extending this to every situation involving a man? Because that wasn’t my impression. Or are you saying it’s not feasible to find men to date who don’t watch porn?
(DIR) Post #A9QW7RJWJ5altnArMu by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T22:14:03.850528Z
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@harpyharpyharpy when women literally say to me literally ostracize any man who watches porn because he is an abusive misogynist ima take em at their word
(DIR) Post #A9QWvlEmVPeQAax89A by fpcgggc@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T22:23:10.099522Z
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I got a lot of shit on Ovarit a while back for saying that I have a lot of male friends because I’ve spent my entire career science, and that they are misogynistic. I was shamed on their for not dumping them and told things like “Why wouldn’t I just rather be alone and friendless?” As if that is realistic and as if I can’t love imperfect people. Those comments were some real bs, and against my values. I don’t dump people because they have morals that don’t align with mine (or what I wish mine were). I try to show them that they can be better.Saying that, I’ll 100% shame porn users and misogynists, including myself. All porn is bad. Some shame is good and people need to have more of it. @meghanmurphy @harpyharpyharpy
(DIR) Post #A9QX0IMHIxc43DcaLQ by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T22:23:59.256972Z
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@harpyharpyharpy @meghanmurphy YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN ME FIGHT WITH @Justwanttobreathe ABOUT SEPARATISM. LOL.JOSIE I APPRICIATE YOU EVEN IF WE ARGUE. I ALSO I NEVER GOT TO REFER TO YOU AS JOSIE AND THE PUSSY CATS IN A PUN ABOUT BEING A CAT LADY, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE CATS. https://spinster.xyz/@Justwanttobreathe/posts/A6mCQ1GoIsyuWEZ5PMhttps://spinster.xyz/@Justwanttobreathe/posts/A6WFsGpSlSmY8DBNVg
(DIR) Post #A9QXIzIoNWUuS5ugLo by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T22:27:21.960376Z
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@FSI @meghanmurphy @harpyharpyharpy IMA WATCH LATER!
(DIR) Post #A9QXYJ4p8jmY7ofvRQ by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T22:30:07.909598Z
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@meghanmurphy @Yemaya @harpyharpyharpy I ONLY ASKED FOR A FEW SCALPS ONLINE?IT'S FOR THE GREATER GOOD I SWEAR!
(DIR) Post #A9QZVyInblsb1UE5xI by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T22:25:29.254858Z
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@amerika @meghanmurphy You hate it for the wrong reasons—because it is counter to conservative values of social order and sex as primarily for reproduction. Radfems hate it because it degrades women. So they’re not going to join an ideology that is dehumanizing to women because it opposes one thing they don’t like for that very reason.
(DIR) Post #A9QZVz2sqQk7KPmtmq by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T22:52:05Z
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@AbolishPregnancy @meghanmurphy I think we hate it for the same reasons plus others: it is alienating.
(DIR) Post #A9QZc3qVuRr3xDtqLY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T22:53:12Z
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@Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid Sex without love and family is also alienating.If you want zipless fucks, you're going to have porn and resentment, so you're going to get abusive porn.Feminism is just stupidity.
(DIR) Post #A9QZdzNFVVkQfD8AOO by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T22:53:33Z
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@Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid Remove government, problem (usually/often) solved.
(DIR) Post #A9QZgTai8E1IxYc5ku by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T22:54:00Z
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@Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid Leftism = egalitarianism.Democracy = political egalitarianism.Socialism = economic egalitarianism.Feminism = sexual egalitarianism.etc.
(DIR) Post #A9QZikbHrXGEIAy2jI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T22:54:24Z
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@Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid About two centuries is the length of most democracies...
(DIR) Post #A9QZkj2SdjUI1mcT1U by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T22:54:46Z
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@PawelK @Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid The more egalitarian/individualistic we become, the more we are willing to use others, including as animated fleshlights.
(DIR) Post #A9QZmAdPWYvTu9ajTM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T22:55:01Z
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@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid What was eating before obesity?
(DIR) Post #A9QZp6lAO5GskucUpU by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T22:19:22.989912Z
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@BCLADY @Emperor1 @Sycaid @amerika Men getting dominated is the exception, not the rule. Women being submissive is the default.
(DIR) Post #A9QZp7G0XPwQIZ37tw by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T22:55:34Z
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@AbolishPregnancy @Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid Men are the ones paying for porn and sitting in front of computers masturbating.Gettin' tooled
(DIR) Post #A9QZr5Z1nve7cst2UC by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T22:55:55Z
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@BCLADY @Emperor1 @AbolishPregnancy @Sycaid Feminists love humiliation. "We're equal, and to prove it, we need all these subsidies!"
(DIR) Post #A9QZvfBRJVWdFy2D9E by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T22:56:44Z
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@BCLADY @BeachBleach @Sycaid I reject your fake and stupid history.Lots of men got raped in WW2 too, and the Allies did most of the raping.
(DIR) Post #A9QZyGnyPP0oW6Il3w by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T22:57:12Z
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@BCLADY @Sycaid If open discussion bothers you, the internet ain't for.Log off and cash those disability checks.
(DIR) Post #A9Qa2LHRiAJzYU1qzI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T22:57:57Z
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@BCLADY @Emperor1 @Sycaid Democracy really does make people go insane.
(DIR) Post #A9Qa5VHYyssJRbaiNk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-18T22:58:31Z
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@meghanmurphy Most of them are just dupes, doing what their friends do.Porn is a consumer product.
(DIR) Post #A9QeIHpchWrXJDsD9U by grace_hawthorn@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T23:35:47.289179Z
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@meghanmurphy @Berco or perhaps you might not bring your issue with one woman to a whole group. None of us claim to represent radical feminism, we represent ourselves. Radical feminism is an analysis not a 'movement'. We either understand, have trust in, and deploy the analysis, or we don't.I'm really not sure what you want, though you've been less than becoming in your comments to women here. I too appreciated your work establishing FC & in speaking out, and i know it hasn't been easy. I don't appreciate your wholesale dismissal of other women's concerns, values, approaches to navigating a sexually violent world, and i don't appreciate the use of language like 'retarded'.
(DIR) Post #A9QfZp0mgwhj5m1Fdw by Mariposa@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T23:30:50.396187Z
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@meghanmurphy You mean over on twitter, where a bunch of us were kicked off like you and so now hang out over here? I can't be the only one who doesn't even know who/what you're talking about, and sure doesn't have the time or inclination to run over there and investigate.@Berco
(DIR) Post #A9QfZpXOjgnAivHITg by Berco@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T23:58:04.055566Z
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@Mariposa Yes, this exactly. @meghanmurphy I don't know who or what you are referring to, Meghan, I find Spinster is enough of "social media" for dialoging with wonderful women and getting many links and info. And those you refer to don't sound worth the energy. We should focus on the wonderful work so many women are doing in all parts of the world to defeat this men's rights lethal movement, now identifying as GI. Why waste our time with personal attacks, back and forth. Radical feminism is a permanent part of our women's fabric and fight for liberation. It has been attacked relentlessly and still survives. Thank you for your work, and stay safe.
(DIR) Post #A9QijGD9EZIruzzifw by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T23:44:27.436238Z
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@amerika @meghanmurphy Alienating of what from what?
(DIR) Post #A9QiyHjbqrSAzHLI1o by Biff@spinster.xyz
2021-07-19T00:35:13.091962Z
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@meghanmurphy Would love to see you in conversation with Susan G. Cole, the Canadian author of Pornography and the Sex Crisis, which predicted the capture of men’s sexuality by porn (pre Gail Dines). She spoke at campuses and debated a lot of people, including pornographers.
(DIR) Post #A9Qj917hx6rSeajQPo by skullhoney@spinster.xyz
2021-07-17T22:32:00.412021Z
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@BitterFleabane @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @meghanmurphy I co-sign this comment. My convictions were shaped and solidified reading FC in 2015 and you and the other women there were saying things no one else said. Feminism needs critical voices from within, too. The left needs to be grounded in reality as much as the right does.
(DIR) Post #A9QtARmdJcGFAaC8ES by BitterFleabane@spinster.xyz
2021-07-19T02:25:31.247923Z
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@fpcgggc @meghanmurphy @harpyharpyharpyI absolutely love this post, thank you. For me, by saying I cut off porn-using male friends, I primarily mean the close ones, the ones whom I admire, because those are the people who influence me, emotionally and intellectually. The closer a friend they are, the more damage they can do to me. It is also more distressing to me to know that this person who I care about watches porn; even just that underlying subconscious tension would eventually destroy our friendship anyway. If it's just a casual friend, I don't even want to know. But if I found out they did, I wouldn't care much, because I am realistic about how many men watch it. And I also agree about shame. It's a critical emotion that enforces humane behavior.
(DIR) Post #A9QtqCgnpCw4WENX5U by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-19T02:39:52Z
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@Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid it always turns out that wayhow many did the french revolution kill?
(DIR) Post #A9QtsVg2CUHzzG7RFA by Sycaid@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T23:31:12.528578Z
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@amerika Alright I don't want this garbage showing up on my feed anymore. Onto block ya go, bloody weirdo.
(DIR) Post #A9QtsWBaJBWhZ6sdQ8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-19T02:40:16Z
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@Sycaid run away
(DIR) Post #A9QuAABkpfhKYRNDZQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-19T02:43:28Z
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@AbolishPregnancy @meghanmurphy it alienates men and women from love by reducing it to a sex actit alienates people from their future spouses by eliminating their ability to bondit alienates men from women by treating them as something tangible that exists only in a moment
(DIR) Post #A9Qwh7fJR0KcC32j8y by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-19T03:11:49Z
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@amerikaYes thats partially what I mean. Its sometimes even worse. Sex without any bond. It will feel the object is item and/or enemy.To some, both loveless or bondless sex may feel like you are a fucking chimpanzee running around town with a hardon while out of giving relief it also used to have kind of social role etc. Or maybe im bit idealistic.@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9QxCjXydp3sesgXpI by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-19T03:17:32Z
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@amerikaYes i could have understood egalitarianism wrongly. I thought of egalitarianism of outcomes ie leftism/socialism. There is also egalitarianism of opportunities as in libertarianism or also political egalitarianism in democracy.@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9QxN6zWKa9YGVW7Wq by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-19T03:19:25Z
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@Emperor1Yes i meant one of views but there are many others. It might mean something different depending whom You ask.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9QxhDsYQsWhQ0qfIW by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-19T03:23:04Z
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@Emperor1Leftism/socialism often promises equal outcomes no matter your iq education skills wealth.It often turns out what it delivers is all outcomes are equal. They are equal round zero ie negative compared to summary one in capitalism.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9Qxsc3yr99vbtcl7o by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-19T03:25:06Z
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@amerikaYep their irrational rationale is: outcomes will be equal when we murder or strip of prerequisites those who have extra good starting position.@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9RAJhFesBaCyDld6O by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-19T05:44:28.854706Z
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@Emperor1 @AbolishPregnancy @Sycaid @amerika THE FACT THAT YOU WERE ALL "BUT WOMEN OBJECTIFYING MEN IN PORN? (PORN I DON'T THINK ABOUT WHO FUNDS OR MANAGES THE CORPS FOR) " MEANDS YOU NEVER HAD ANY CRED TO BEGIN WITH WEIRDO.IT'S MORE OR LESS FUCKING FUNNY. YOU AREN'T MAKING ANY GOOD POINTS OR REFUTING ANYTHING. THIS IS A FUCKING INTERNET CHAT BOARD. THE ONLY REASON I'M HERE ON SPINSTER IS BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA IS FUCKING NUTS AND I ENDED UP WORKING WITH SOMEONE OBVIOUSLY MALE WHO EVERYONE CALLED "SHE" BEFORE COVID HAPPENED. AND IT'S HARD TO TALK ABOUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE OF SO MANY REASONS. LIKE I GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK.READ SOME lundy bancroft, IT'S A MAN SO YOU'LL PAY MORE ATTENTION. HONESTLY, IF YOU CAN'T USE YOUR OWN FUCKING OBSERVATION SKILLS IN REGARDS TO THIS ISSUE, WELL IT'S NOT LIKE I CAME HERE FOR A CONVERSATION. FOR ALL I KNOW NO ACTUAL WOMEN WILL WILLINGLY HOLD A CONVO WITH YOU IRL.I CAME TO THIS THREAD FOR ONE REASON ONLY: TO YELL ABOUT SCALPS AND BE A HAMSTER. IF YOU'D GIVE ME YOURS, I MAY DINE TO CONVERSE WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE.
(DIR) Post #A9RB7WIdrkOpTzv876 by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-19T05:53:29.641355Z
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@Emperor1 @amerika @AbolishPregnancy @Sycaid IT'S NOT THE CHOICE OF FUCKING TRAFFICKED VICTIMS TO BE RAPED, BUT I GUESS YOU CAN PRETEND TO BE NEUTRAL TOWARDS THAT AS A TOPIC.SO WHAT IF A FUCKING CHILD HAS TO CONSTANTLY REVIEW HER OWN RAPE AND REPORT IT TO PORN HUB? PEOPLE CAN MAKE CHOICES AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SORT OF PRESSURE AND TRICKERY GOES ON IN REGARDS TO FILMING RAPE AND PRETENDING IT'S FINE. OR EVEN NOT PRETENDING IT'S FINE AND SOMPLY NOT QUESTIONING IT. IT'S MEN WHO ARE FUNDING THIS SHIT. IT'S MEN WHO OWN THE COMPANIES. EVEN WOMEN WHO'VE TRIED TO MAKE IT WORK IN REGARDS TO SEXUAL EXPLOITATION ARE FIGHITNG AGAINST FUCKING PORN HUB.THERE IS NO REASONS WHY ANY FUCKING RAPE SHOULD BE RECORDED AND PUT ONLINE AS IF IT'S A NEUTRAL OBJECT THAT EXISTS FOR SOMEONE TO JACK IT TO YOU FUCKING DING DONG. NEXT YOU'LL TELL ME THAT RAPE IS A "CHOICE" TOO. TELL ME THAT "SOME WOMEN RAPE TOO," AS IF YOU'RE SOME CRUSADER FOR HUMANS TO NOT BE SEXUALLY EXPLOITED BECAUSE YOU WANNA PRETEND THAT MEN AREN'T THE DRIVING FUCKING FORCE BEHIND PORN.AND THEN:
(DIR) Post #A9RCSaGEQwVlnsOvM8 by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-19T02:58:28.945954Z
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@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid @amerika I’m referring to porn scenarios, not real life.
(DIR) Post #A9RZwGCDtbSpCue6E4 by Mariposa@spinster.xyz
2021-07-18T23:15:14.411119Z
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@harpyharpyharpy I have never seen the argument made that women should not interact with ANY man who uses porn. How would we know anyway, if they were co-workers, or something? The argument I have seen is as you have said, don't date or have sex with them.@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #A9ShnMDH9Iwc3OMbtg by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-19T23:34:17Z
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@PawelK @Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid Or maybe all egalitarianism is the same, and these are just degrees of it.
(DIR) Post #A9ShpzMSZI8u34ukLI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-19T23:34:47Z
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@Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid People decided wrong on that basis ("muh intelligence is equal") for decades and now we're paying the price.No thanks to your inverse fascism.
(DIR) Post #A9ShzpfhRtz4tObj1M by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-19T23:36:33Z
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@Emperor1 @AbolishPregnancy @BCLADY @Sycaid Yes, and the point is not to make those into pathologies or fetishes, but to let people gradually overcome their fears and be who they are.
(DIR) Post #A9Sq7eTLlpaI6o4R3Q by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-20T01:07:37.981669Z
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@Emperor1 @AbolishPregnancy @Sycaid @amerika OMG, YOU MEAN A WOMAN CAN BE PART OF A POISONOUS HIARCHY THAT'S USED BY MEN FOR MEN'S SEXUAL SATIFACTION??????????WOW!MY MIND. IS BLOWN!I'VE NEVER SEEN OR HEARD OF THAT BEFORE IN ALL OF HISTORY!NOT ONCE, IT'S NOT LIKE THERE AREN'T BOOKS ABOUT THIS VERY SUBJECT. I'M CLEARLY NOT GOING TO WIN THIS ARGUMENT. YOUR DEBATE SKILLS HAVE SHINED THROUGH AND SHOWN ME THE LIGHT!FOCUSING ON THE LARGEST PART OF THE PROBLEM (MEN EXPLOITING WOMEN FOR THEIR DICKS) AND HOLDING MEN ACCOUNTABLE IS OFF THE TABLE NOW! BOTH SIDES ARE WRONG, WHY BOTHER FOCUSING ON THE STRONGEST MOST VIOLENT SIDE? I'LL TELL ALL THE RAD FEMS, WE WERE ALWAYS SO, SO WRONG. THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT HUMAN TRAFFICKING NOW.NOTHING ABOUT THE DRIVING FORCE (WHO PAYS AND WHO MAKES THE MONEY) IN REGARDS TO PORN AKA MEN WANTING JACK OFF MATERIAL?BECAUSE SOME WOMEN (BUT WHO CARES WHAT PERCENTAGE LOL) ARE COMPLICIT IN THE OBJECTIFICATION OF A LOWER CLASS OF WOMEN THAT IS CONSIDERED DISPOSABLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY ARE IN DANGER, OR FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE BEST WAY THEY CAN ESCAPE THE DANGER THEY ARE ALREADY IN. AMAZING. YOU'VE TRTUSTLY CONVINCED ME, I THINK I FEEL A FUCK GROWING ABOUT YOUR OPINION. LET'S CHECK THE FEILD SHALL WE:
(DIR) Post #A9SqvH8UoCCcDAyjFA by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-20T01:16:36.161525Z
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@Emperor1 @AbolishPregnancy @Sycaid @amerika DUDE, YOU AREN'T GOING TO ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING TO HELP ANYONE. WHY ARE YOU STUCK ON THIS? WOMEN DON'T CONSUME PORN IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM AT THE AMOUNT AS MEN AND THEY SURE AS HELL DON'T GIVE MONEY TO IT. YOU JUST WANNA PRETEND WOMEN ARE CONTRIBUTING TO A PROBLEM WITHOUT ACTUALLY DOING ANYTHING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. YOU'RE PRIORITIES ARE OBVIOUSLY ABOUT YOUR OWN FEELINGS OF EQUIALITY BETWEEN WOMEN DOING BAD STUFF LIKE MEN INSTEAD OF THE HUMAN BEINGS WHO ARE RAPED. WHO ARE MOSTLY WOMEN. THEN CHILDREN. THEN MEN. MOSTLY THEY ARE RAPED BY MEN, EVEN IF THE FETISH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A PRETEND WORLD WHERE A WOMAN TREATES A MAN WITH THE CRUEL OBJECTIFICATION THAT MEN TERRORIZE WOMEN WITH. IF YOU WANTED TO HELP STOP THE SUFFERING OF OTHER WOMEN/CHILDREN/MEN YOU'D CARE ABOUT WHO'S GOT THE MONEY AND WHY, YOU DUMB FUCK!I GET IT. YOU DON'T. MESSAGE READ LOUD AND CLEAR! FUCK YOU. DON'T RAPE. DON'T WATCH MOVIES THAT ARE POSSIBLY FILMED RAPE. DON'T FEED MONEY TO THE SEX INDUSTRY. SUPPORT THOSE LEAVING THE SEX INDUSTRY.SUPPORT HEALTHY SAFE FAMILIES BECAUSE RAPE AND SEXUAL ABUSE ARE THE BOOTCAMP OF PORN.MEN RAPE MORE THEN WOMEN. WOMEN ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO JUDGE MEN AS LESS SAFE AND MAKING THE SEX INDUSTRY WORSE AND YOU BEING BUTTHURT ABOUT IT ISN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING BUT CAUSE ME TO SPRAIN MY EYEBALL MUSCLE FROM ALL THE ROLLING IT'S DOING. GET OVER YOURSELF. WOMEN HAVE TO JUDGE MEN TO BE SAFE AND WHINING ABOUT WOMEN INSTEAD OF FACING ANY PROBLEMS SHOWS WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE. FUCK EVEN YOUR DUMB EXAMPLE HAD THE CEO TAKE DOWN THE VIDEO PARTS BECAUSE OF THE SITE BECAUSE IT WAS CAUSING DIFFICULTY. I DON'T THINK IT WAS DONE FOR ETHICAL REASONS BUT PROBABLY AGAINST THE BRAND THEY WERE AIMING FOR. https://www.xbiz.com/news/230428/bellesa-co-takes-down-video-section-amidst-industry-backlash"Until such a point, we are taking down our entire video section.To those that we have offended or who feel wronged by our operation up to this point; I can't stress this enough, I am deeply sorry. Myself and Bellesa are looking towards the future with our sights set on making Bellesa.co a platform on which all women can be inspired to participate, including and especially those that are directly involved in the industry.Thank you for taking the time to listen.Sincerely,Michelle Shnaidman"THIS IS A STUPID SMALL SHARE OF A MARKET THAT AT LEAST PAID LIP SERVICE TRYING NOT TO CONTRIBUTE TO RAPE VIDEOS BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY PUT IT BACK UP IN THE END.I'M MUTING YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE A WHINY HUMAN WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW TO ARGUE.
(DIR) Post #A9SxU7sjo4qpN2bpI0 by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T02:30:05Z
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@amerikaHmm. People opinions will differ here and its ok. Isnt equal in eyes of god or equal in eyes of law from constitution a form of egalitarianism too?@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9T36g0NsvFdyeO4Qa by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
2021-07-20T01:21:12.478837Z
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@BCLADY @Emperor1 @Sycaid @amerika Asexuality seems sad to me. Yes they’re avoiding some risks, but also missing out on an amazing part of life. Why is this celebrated as an “identity,” why aren’t people offered help instead if they want it?
(DIR) Post #A9TFj96TLUhGg5LRi4 by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2021-07-20T05:54:32.461505Z
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@AbolishPregnancy @Emperor1 @Sycaid @amerika WAIT WHO BROUGHT UP ASEXUALITY?PEOPLE CAN'T ACTUALLY BE ASEXUAL. FUCKING FUNGUS IS ASEXUAL, GERMS ARE ASEXUAL. THEY REPRODUCE ASEXUALLY.PEOPLE ARE SEXUAL CREATURES, BOTH IN BEING A SEXED BEING AND GENERALLY IN FEELING SEXUAL AROUSAL.IF SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE THE IDEA OF RUBBING JIGGLY BITS, THEN THEY NEED TO PICK A DIFFERENT WORD. BECAUSE I'M FUCKING TRIED OF THE CONFUSION.YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY CHANGE SEX AND IF YOU STRUGGLE WITH THE SOCIAL PRESSURES AROUND SEX OR YOUR OWN GENITALIA, IT'S NOT MANY PEOPLE'S BUSINESS AND IDEALLY A SIMPLE "NO" OR "GET AWAY FROM ME YOU FUCKING CREEP" SHOULD SUFFICE.FUCKING ASEXUAL IS DAMN TUMBLR WORD. I DON'T MIND THE CONCEPT IT'S TRYING TO CONVAY, ONLY THAT IT JUST STOLE THE MEANING OF AN ACTUAL WORD TO QUEER THEORY CONFUSION THAT SHIT.PLUS THERE'S A SHIT TON OF CHILDREN ON THE INTERNET WHO OF COURSE AREN'T GOING TO FEEL SEXUAL AROUSAL BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING PREPUBESANT CHILDREN!SHIT, IF ANYTHING ASEXUALITY SEEMS A RESPONSE TO THE FACT THAT THE WORDS "NO" AND "THAT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS" AREN'T SEEN AS GOOD ENOUGH FOR WEASELY GROOMER ASSHOLES WHO WANNA DIDDLE CHILDREN.ALSO NOT WANTING SEXUAL CONTACT AFTER SEXUAL TRAUMA CAN BE MASKED BY THE CONCEPT. SAME WITH NOT WANTING SEXUAL CONTACT WHILE EMOTIONALLY STRESSED OUT.IF FEELS LIKE MORE OF THE SAME INDIVIDUALISM, THE CHOICE IS MINE, BULLSHIT THAT CAN ISOLATE OTHERS WHO MIGHT HAVE A REASON THAT THEY AREN'T OPEN TO SEXUAL CONTACT AS A MATURE ADULT.INSTEAD OF LEARNING TO COMMUNICATE IT'S JUST FUCKING UP DEFINITIONS.SORT OF LIKE EMPORER DIRTBRAIN HERE, WHO'S ALL "WHY STOP PORN? IT'S A CHOICY CHOICE. SOME WOMEN DO IT TOO!"
(DIR) Post #A9UA1mqptjAMbCUqxs by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:25:09Z
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@PawelK @Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid In US Constitution, equality is not mentioned except in terms of facing trial.In the Declaration, it is not mentioned except in terms of lack of social rank i.e. caste.
(DIR) Post #A9UAXO1XjyjarhZZ8C by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:31:03Z
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@amerikaOk. As I uderstand it and I mean it possibly indirectly, if all and any citizens do their responsibilities, the founding fathers meant for any and all of them to gain such and such rights plus ones given by god.That is one of types of equality.@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9UAdKXraTFLoVWZbE by 9zbVLJj7aZW1OP4Tiq.verita84@rage.lol
2021-07-20T16:32:09.979912Z
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@PawelK @amerika @Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid How did rights come from God? Rights are a worldly concept. Not everyone has rights
(DIR) Post #A9UB10LYKvew7R3TDk by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:36:26Z
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@Emperor1Oh to clarify here. Equality of opportunities. Nearly never of outcomes.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9UB6MzPZuoLnCFzRQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:37:23Z
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@PawelK @Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid They are one and the same. The former is measured by the latter.Every. Time.
(DIR) Post #A9UB8PpXzFNjBNcPCK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:37:46Z
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@verita84 @Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid That was the point of natural rights: we use "rights" to describe how humans were able to act in nature, e.g. freedom of movement, choice, speech, etc.
(DIR) Post #A9UBCKpyUd6sr4gg6K by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:38:25Z
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@PawelK @Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid The founding fathers meant:1. You don't get special treatment because you are Lord Dunsmore instead of Larry Dunsmore.2. No one gets to buy their way out of due process.
(DIR) Post #A9UBEQwsk3sYO8v1uq by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:38:52Z
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@Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid And yet, everyone who has unequal outcomes will claim unequal treatment.It's an endless loop.
(DIR) Post #A9UBEXeLpMDPAhIpVI by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:38:52Z
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@verita84A notion of rights coming from god may be treated metaphorically. These are the rights not deoendant on fulfilling responsibilities. As in declaration of human rights.@Emperor1 @amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9UBHbrMdDWF64quAK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:39:24Z
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@PawelK @verita84 @Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid True. Until the 14A, the idea of American law was "government cannot abridge these rights."Diversity killed it dead, like everything else.
(DIR) Post #A9UBJEClYC3aJPdPPM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:39:44Z
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@Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid It's a backdoor in all legal systems: people with more money acquire better talent.
(DIR) Post #A9UBSKIcGFr5osi2pU by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:41:22Z
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@amerikaOf course not. Equality of opportunities says we might both take part in running race. Equality of outcomes would say cheetah is forced to finish no earlier than the snail not to make him feel sorry.@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9UBXpics6HEiIV8DI by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:42:22Z
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@amerikaYes more contemporary would be name natural rights. Its a relic of past.@verita84 @Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9UBen6cz6ZKdY2sxk by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:43:36Z
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@amerika.@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9UBpEFAwQqHhQ1Lc0 by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:45:27Z
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@amerikaFirst is clearly equality no matter you are peasant or lord.The latter is also kind of equality, no matter the wealth both will be facing process and possibly punishment if they break rules.@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9UBz2E8TTH1KGD6P2 by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:47:15Z
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@amerikaYes its common lefty accusation but its debunkable. You may need here role-models who started low and overachieved.@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9UCAO1jlLf07fp8oi by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:49:17Z
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@Emperor1Its common weakness of most democracies. Its hard to fix this part but it may be doable.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9UCDX9GJ2XrHTqP7Q by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:49:52Z
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@amerikaWhat does 14a say?@verita84 @Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9UCNRoyy0kHeg5OOO by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:51:39Z
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@amerikaMisconception here is talent is soo important while really often its matter of luck intelligence hardworking and few other factors.@Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9UCb9xu9UwCKUnWJE by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:54:04Z
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@Emperor1Legal insurance from what kind of liability types?@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9UCq37NtLx1RBKcjI by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T16:56:43Z
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@Emperor1Ahh that for sure is very welcome.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9UPh3qd6l4qUyXUdU by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T19:20:53Z
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@PawelK @Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid There are many paths to success.Some are simply obedient.Others have talent, work ethic, luck, and fortitude.
(DIR) Post #A9UPjYiVJDfwoevgzQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T19:21:22Z
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@Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid Terrible idea. This means USA pays healthcare for Mexico.And, generally, socialized anything means more useless behavior from citizens.Cut costs and this will not be an issue.
(DIR) Post #A9UPoajLFZjMVbilc0 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T19:22:16Z
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@PawelK @verita84 @Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid 14A begins the civil rights regime.It talks about "equal protection of the laws," which has widely been interpreted to mean "anything which is unequally applied must go, even transgenders in the little girls' room."
(DIR) Post #A9UPrPfqoVv75SQwy0 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-20T19:22:46Z
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@PawelK @Emperor1 @BCLADY @Sycaid When the cheetah always wins, the snails are going to claim inequality.
(DIR) Post #A9VJzE5nLuMKuvs4jg by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-21T05:51:39Z
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@Emperor1Both models have their upsides and downsides. Socialized medicine as You call it may be out of taste of libertarian, but it is not as terrible as it sounds. @amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9VK1jcn5TqpI9V7BY by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-21T05:52:07Z
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@Emperor1Its a metaphor.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9VxDb06sBgyEU3SdM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-21T13:11:16Z
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@Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid I think you live in a different reality.Here, let's go to the local emergency room, and you tell me what you see...Mexicans. Endless Mexicans.
(DIR) Post #A9VxEvAvLn475lkFsG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-21T13:11:30Z
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@Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid Equality and equity are two sides to the same coin.
(DIR) Post #A9WNViJR1aOQvjOTs8 by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-21T18:05:51Z
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@Emperor1Can You explain single payer? We call it here either private insurance as everyone pays for themselves or public insurance where everyone tips in into common piggynack and then its shared over all citizens.Of course for noncitizens only private insurance is available.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9WOFFveszLUDlzMsi by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-21T18:14:06Z
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@Emperor1Ahh good.Single payer in us=public insurance in europe etc rest of world.@amerika @BCLADY @Sycaid
(DIR) Post #A9WaXEhdNm5j53lkUi by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-21T20:31:48Z
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@Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid I like the Swiss system better: healthcare is resold to citizens, and required as a result.No free riders.
(DIR) Post #A9WaZ6Qd7JPlzuho5w by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-07-21T20:32:09Z
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@Emperor1 @PawelK @BCLADY @Sycaid I don't. Any kind of socialism makes people weak and bratty.