Post A9Jj5aDNODQWQHT00O by fluffy@social.handholding.io
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(DIR) Post #A9JZB6JoSNPVthTBi4 by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T13:45:20.157687Z
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i think there are two kinds of nazism:1. actually believing in extreme right-wing talking points (BLM doesn't have point, communism is a danger, cUlTuRaL MaRxIsM)2. being able to laugh at jokes, no matter how darkthe second one is not a problem, escepially not online
(DIR) Post #A9JZGcrIttPWGbllOS by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2021-07-15T13:46:22.296724Z
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@mario :suddennakadashi: all of the things in 1 are mainstream republican positions
(DIR) Post #A9JZb4gV9eC2MIT2bA by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T13:50:02.409862Z
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@fluffy for real? maybe it's just a germany thing, but here every party, apart from the radical rightwingers thinka) police has too much power in the sense of physical forceb) we might take some communistic concepts work for our social contractc) people using the word cultural marxism are not to take seriously, they're baiting
(DIR) Post #A9Ja4zlxytlzoQI69g by lovejihad@cawfee.club
2021-07-15T13:53:20.181407Z
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@mario "[believing] communism is a danger"Lotta Uighur Nazis these days, huh?
(DIR) Post #A9Ja508ecXvAwmuDWC by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T13:55:28.314191Z
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@lovejihad Are you an Uighur in China? How does communism is a danger to you or your country?
(DIR) Post #A9JdkVCaKf0f1YE1PU by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2021-07-15T14:36:35.475106Z
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@mario yeah lolthey are not fundamentally unserious positions. mainstream type stuff usually is not quite right but it's not some extremist thing. there are members of congress saying these things. talk shows which millions of people watch discussing them.i don't really know what the criterion for extremist is but it's not unusual i suppose for some stuff in another country to seem extreme when said somewhere else.
(DIR) Post #A9JduP3y0mwascuoDo by basadeskaiser@cawfee.club
2021-07-15T14:38:22.886077Z
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@fluffy @mario > extreme right wingShit take detected
(DIR) Post #A9Je30IFTS4EfGhEyu by lovejihad@cawfee.club
2021-07-15T14:03:42.046590Z
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@mario I'm not a nationalist.Is there a reason I shouldn't care about the dangers posed to my brothers and sisters in another country?But while I shouldn't need a personal connection to be concerned, and while I myself am not Uighur, my family has been victimized by communism in the past. It's why my family was forced out of their home country under threat of death.Should I not care about those who are now in similar situations merely because my family managed to escape their oppressors?Do you think I should only care about oppression I face personally?If so, what a selfish worldview you must have.
(DIR) Post #A9JeJ1GTd7foJKVLaC by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T14:42:49.099777Z
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@lovejihad >Is there a reason I shouldn't care about the dangers posed to my brothers and sisters in another country?Is there something you can do about it?>Do you think I should only care about oppression I face personally?I think you should think pragmaticlly in regards to politics.>If so, what a selfish worldview you must have.lel, i just know that i can ree on the internet all you want, your brothers still throw my fellow fags from roofs.
(DIR) Post #A9JeQbxHc9BE8C9AYa by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T14:44:11.667797Z
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@fluffy i thought the red scare became a known propaganda tool after the cold war. :blobcatsad:
(DIR) Post #A9Jf3cmcTAyfzclJHE by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2021-07-15T14:51:14.680380Z
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@mario red scare? i recall this phrase but can't define itbut there really was a war, and there really were lots of spies, and there really was a threat of nuclear annihilation.I'm glad i live in different times, although I have my own complaints about what america turned into :blobcatverysad:
(DIR) Post #A9JfMKpDSgJ3natlNA by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T14:54:36.683872Z
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@fluffy The red scare was when communism was getting traction in eurasia after WWII, the USA told everyone: "Beware, the ruskies wants to make us communists too and then things will become bad" and everyone believed it and now everyone is scared of communism. The Domino-Effects describes how more and more countries "fall into" communism and it's being the responsibilty of the US to stop the dominos.
(DIR) Post #A9JfPYlE6bx3t8ZOvB by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T14:55:12.511101Z
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@fluffy
(DIR) Post #A9JhWNtV6az67bp2PI by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2021-07-15T15:18:51.578809Z
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@mario huh. And you said this was shown to be bad policy? Figures, we've had nothing but bad policy in living memory.Thinking briefly, Sparta did something like this during the Peloponnesian war, they replaced democracies with monarchies, and those rulers become puppet states or allies. Athens too, only they put in friendly democracies. Those states paid them tribute in gold and silver.i do know that at one point the entire presidential cabinet was KGB assets, as well as the speaker of the house. Two or three deaths away from having a soviet spy in the oval office. so it's not like the russians weren't trying to take over. but whether that is evil communism or just ordinary boring war stuff i'm not sure.
(DIR) Post #A9JiaWVX7fYTwr9IuW by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T15:30:48.491396Z
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@fluffy The red scare was used in propaganda and it was effective, people still aggressivly oppose everyting they deem communism. I think that's stupid nowadays, since neither russia nor china nor any other country claiming to be communist have any chance to stay economically viable without capitalism.Everyone who is scared of the domino-effect now, has no idea how capitalism and globalism made each other necessary.How real the danger of communism was in the 50s, 60s, 70s was, I can't really judge.
(DIR) Post #A9Jj5aDNODQWQHT00O by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2021-07-15T15:36:25.590585Z
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@mario >How real the danger of communism was in the 50s, 60s, 70s was, I can't really judge.me neither to be frank. i'm no scholar of that era. >The red scare was used in propaganda and it was effective, people still aggressivly oppose everyting they deem communism. :blobcat3c: people still aggressively oppose everything they deem nazi :fluffyblobcatpeek:
(DIR) Post #A9JjMKL3faKi6h2n5c by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T15:39:27.248513Z
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@fluffy Lession learned:Everyone who seriously claims someones' politics are nazism or communism should be not taken seriously.
(DIR) Post #A9JjhIDujH3VczhRRI by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2021-07-15T15:43:14.460947Z
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@mario As an american, I am too poor to be involved in the political process anyway. it's like talking about warhammer lore or something to me
(DIR) Post #A9JjxoW4Qu1QPq4OuG by Moon@shitposter.club
2021-07-15T15:46:13.754624Z
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@fluffy @mario I used to get books from all over the place, once I got a college textbook on Russian history from the 1950s and it was clearly whitewashed of what we now (almost) all agree happened to people in the Soviet Union. Then and even today the far-left operate by infiltrating popular democratic protests. The Venona Papers confirmed that the US government was infiltrated. Communism was a self-described violent world-wide movement. I am reasonably convinced that the threat was real at the time. People took it too far but it was because they actually really had to worry about infiltration.
(DIR) Post #A9JkLVpLZPINP1O2Ou by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T15:50:28.719408Z
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@Moon @fluffy Thank you super much for this post! What I learned in school is that the US was essentially paraniod of the influnce of the UDSSR and "produced" the red scare.
(DIR) Post #A9JkVb70m9n0gnSTCq by Moon@shitposter.club
2021-07-15T15:52:20.096905Z
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@mario @fluffy America severely reacted in "non-productive" ways so to a large extent they're right. But the threat was actually there is my perspective.
(DIR) Post #A9JlgxOINrxOvQWUZE by lain@lain.com
2021-07-15T16:05:34.110050Z
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@Moon @mario @fluffy intellectuals were very pro-soviet during the time. there were hundreds of soviet spies in the US government. the soviets stole the atom bomb plans from the americans. The problem was very real.Of course, there was also the aspect of "us good, them bad".
(DIR) Post #A9JmCxtm21zjlaVe52 by mrsaturday@shitposter.club
2021-07-15T16:11:22.833283Z
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@mario We've got a live one @nazi_accusations
(DIR) Post #A9JmvsDY0613B7AkPw by pomstan@xn--p1abe3d.xn--80asehdb
2021-07-15T16:17:17.509931Z
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@mario extreme right-wing talking points (BLM doesn’t have point, communism is a danger, cUlTuRaL MaRxIsM)since when normal opinions are “extreme right-wing talking points”?
(DIR) Post #A9JtfDuRm4JTlww1su by galena@paws.moe
2021-07-15T17:09:34.905151Z
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@mario BLM HAD a point but then, like almost all movements that pose any threat whatsoever to the system, it was thoroughly co-opted by leftist infiltrators and turned into yet another bludgeon the system can blindly swing around at any of its enemies.Communism and all forms of Marxism are threats to human Liberty and one of the greatest dangers the world has faced since Hitler.
(DIR) Post #A9JtknszRSjcncukeO by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T17:12:29.685106Z
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@galena I still fail to see the danger in a democratic society.Maybe the US is different, but in Germany it's so absurd to think any singular party can get so much power to instate an authoritarian goverment
(DIR) Post #A9JtkoH5zq180OC0Dw by galena@paws.moe
2021-07-15T17:18:16.210167Z
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@mario Germany is probably the most absurd example you could possibly use to say you think it's impossible, considering that for decades Germany's name was synonymous with that exact thing happening.Regardless of whether it's one party, two, or twenty, if every party is authoritarian, than it doesn't matter which one holds power. You don't need a one party system to have an authoritarian government. Democracy is tyranny. It is a sham.
(DIR) Post #A9Jtkome6XFpaExCOu by vera@freethinkers.lgbt
2021-07-15T17:24:43.188080Z
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@galena @mario all nation states are fascist by nature.
(DIR) Post #A9JtkpF0P5wJ0CDqbY by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T17:25:49.633873Z
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@vera @galena everyone gay
(DIR) Post #A9JtkpckymwEBrKocq by vera@freethinkers.lgbt
2021-07-15T17:27:53.851310Z
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@mario @galena we need an actual gay mafia
(DIR) Post #A9Jtmflua5zwDGUjiq by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T17:29:04.670489Z
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@vera @galena they cbt their targets to make them talk :blobcat3c:
(DIR) Post #A9JuZX6tZbYtXUblSa by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T17:20:57.297641Z
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@galena Germany has defensive machanism in their constitution exactly because of the third reich, I think you can be sure that there won't be another authoritarian goverment in Germany anytime soon.>Democracy is tyranny. It is a sham.wat
(DIR) Post #A9JujG4blr1Zb1Ax72 by galena@paws.moe
2021-07-15T17:23:02.715266Z
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@mario Go buy a gun, if Germany is so free.
(DIR) Post #A9JuyIKRfRTEw1klBw by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T17:23:37.870532Z
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@galena Freedom isn't free, Guns are regulated.
(DIR) Post #A9JzhDgiAVEJOCqTmC by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T16:21:38.842124Z
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@pomstan show me a normal political person talking about cultural marxism or how rightous the death of george floyd was or how communsim is going to annihilate the US :blobcatgiggle2:
(DIR) Post #A9JzhGtEGQ1dJtj1Ci by Nudhul@shitposter.club
2021-07-15T16:26:09.053558Z
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@mario @pomstan how is communism not a danger?
(DIR) Post #A9JzhKZWZcdkjwXL2u by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T16:27:22.135120Z
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@Nudhul @pomstan How should I proof a negative? If there was a danger you should be able to point it out, right?
(DIR) Post #A9JzhN2JPYr8No1MC8 by Nudhul@shitposter.club
2021-07-15T16:32:45.409053Z
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@mario @pomstan USSR sympathisers infiltrated cultural centers of america to spread subversive messages and teach children to hate their nation and embrace socialistic values.today, CRT and intersectionality is taught in the public school system, people are being segregated by their race, the government is becoming more and more centralized, etc.
(DIR) Post #A9JzpNSLjYOk0C19do by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T16:38:30.212433Z
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@Nudhul @pomstan >USSR sympathisers infiltrated cultural centers of america to spread subversive messages and teach children to hate their nation and embrace socialistic values.So people told other people their opinions and other people started agreeing? Seems more like democracy to me. It doesn't matter if you deed certain opinions "subversive", people are still allowed to have and spread them.>today [...] people are being segregated by their raceI don't see how this has anything to do with communism, but people have been segregated by race in the past way worse. The goal of CRT is to lean how that has come to be, but again I don't see the connection with communism.>the government is becoming more and more centralizedwat
(DIR) Post #A9JzpOatVGpLWz1UbA by Nudhul@shitposter.club
2021-07-15T16:40:03.974583Z
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@mario @pomstan the goal of CRT is to create a racial caste system. dont be a rube. critical theory itself is explicitly marxist.
(DIR) Post #A9JzpPvUYAthf9fSLI by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T16:43:29.802174Z
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@Nudhul @pomstan >the goal of CRT is to create a racial caste systemyes, sure lel.>the goal of CRT is to create a racial caste systemi'm pressing x on that.While critical theroy is inspired by marx's criticisms it's not de facto marxist, more like a generalization.
(DIR) Post #A9JzpRWOcS0mbtwRVI by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T16:44:50.657595Z
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@Nudhul @pomstan sorry, copy paste error>critical theory itself is explicitly marxist.i'm pressing x on that.While critical theroy is inspired by marx's criticisms it's not de facto marxist, more like ageneralization.
(DIR) Post #A9JzpSWQtndRiIxzCS by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2021-07-15T16:46:02.118290Z
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@mario @Nudhul @pomstan [[citation needed]]
(DIR) Post #A9JzpU35DtLYRrFZjM by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T16:49:20.264653Z
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@jeffcliff @Nudhul @pomstan https://www.amherst.edu/academiclife/departments/courses/1314S/PHIL/PHIL-366-1314SAlso [[sauce wikipedia]]:>In sociology and political philosophy, "Critical Theory" means the Western-Marxist philosophy of the Frankfurt School, developed in Germany in the 1930sKarl Marx wan't even alive at that point
(DIR) Post #A9JzznYNYl3xpxo5j6 by Nudhul@shitposter.club
2021-07-15T16:44:06.237056Z
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@mario @pomstan not an argument. try again
(DIR) Post #A9Jzzo3Zgm15OiP0Lo by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T16:45:39.319003Z
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@Nudhul @pomstan as if you've brought any arguments forward. you've just put your opinions on the table and claim they're facts
(DIR) Post #A9Jzzp8ZffbskVkVma by Nudhul@shitposter.club
2021-07-15T16:47:13.550441Z
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@mario @pomstan i have. crt teaches that whites are evil and everyone else is a retarded animal
(DIR) Post #A9Jzzq0oQ0zlSj7pK4 by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T16:49:31.734551Z
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@Nudhul @pomstan sauce
(DIR) Post #A9JzzrYsepqCGg4Y40 by Nudhul@shitposter.club
2021-07-15T16:57:28.500070Z
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@mario @pomstan crt coursework, crt lectures. books of robin deangelo, admissions of crt teachers, and the physical manifestation of neo-segregation policies.
(DIR) Post #A9K03OZqMZjlX5CuTA by Andrii@we.1being.org
2021-07-15T18:46:31.007526Z
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@marioDid you see how Critical Theory is Marxist?@jeffcliff @Nudhul @pomstan
(DIR) Post #A9K0I4KNvq4t4eyPiK by Andrii@we.1being.org
2021-07-15T18:49:09.188607Z
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@marioAlso CRT is just a massive distraction of the divide and conquer variety to keep you squabling amongst each other while they take away all your land.@jeffcliff @Nudhul @pomstan
(DIR) Post #A9K0T33azsHoJnM7ai by Nudhul@shitposter.club
2021-07-15T18:51:09.434560Z
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@Andrii @mario @jeffcliff @pomstan dont bother arguing he's a dishonest retard vaush disciple
(DIR) Post #A9K0Yppr4Fbf38giW0 by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T18:52:10.294087Z
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@Nudhul @jeffcliff @Andrii @pomstan someone's mad :blobcatgiggle2:
(DIR) Post #A9K0zOhe3MeqicVusa by Andrii@we.1being.org
2021-07-15T18:56:57.294610Z
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@NudhulMatthew 6:14-15Young's Literal Translation14 `For, if ye may forgive men their trespasses He also will forgive you -- your Father who [is] in the heavens;15 but if ye may not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.John 12:47and if any one may hear my sayings, and not believe, I -- I do not judge him, for I came not that I might judge the world, but that I might save the world.@jeffcliff @mario @pomstan
(DIR) Post #A9K1Jyymt6Xz1ILcki by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T19:00:42.065870Z
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@Andrii @Nudhul @jeffcliff @pomstan Still not really. I stayed at Critical Theroy is the generalization of Marxism.
(DIR) Post #A9K1LJdjYg1VO28TxY by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T19:00:56.419718Z
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@Andrii @Nudhul @jeffcliff @pomstan Who is "they"?
(DIR) Post #A9K1MZRMIYTEgEwhV2 by Nudhul@shitposter.club
2021-07-15T19:01:11.532625Z
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@Andrii @jeffcliff @mario @pomstan that doesnt mean you should continue engaging with a pathological liar
(DIR) Post #A9K1Qabvt7sdT8oA3E by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-15T19:01:54.066169Z
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@Nudhul @jeffcliff @Andrii @pomstan why talk with some1, if you can just talk about some1 :akko_shrug:
(DIR) Post #A9LVkxGk7eJo1hFH2e by Hyolobrika@mastodon.org.uk
2021-07-16T12:16:19Z
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@mario Nazism means supporting the German National Socialist Democratic Action Party, neither more nor less. The NSDAP doesn't exist any more so when people say "Nazi" they usually mean "neo-Nazi", i.e. someone who wants a resurgence of something akin to the NSDAP. Fascism is related but different. See this video for more details: The difference between fascism and Nazism - https://youtu.be/qZTBCfliDeUNone of the things you mentioned can be considered Nazism, neo-Nazism or fascism.
(DIR) Post #A9LW0vOmqMzerKcg1g by mario@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-16T12:19:20.192522Z
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@Hyolobrika Nazism is an ideology tho, not an alliance to a political party per se.