Post A9Bbrm9rvx7cT0cFAe by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
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(DIR) Post #A9BW8dD3rFN3uZlNdw by rayptheon@poa.st
2021-07-11T16:33:12.734794Z
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>"guys we need more rightists in Law, Business, Universities">"guys it's the long game"people saying this shit are pretty delusional tbh, those things are *fully* controlled by now. The System is not a "system" for nothing, i.e. a hierarchical organization that carries out the real power's wishes regardless of the personal politics of its functionaries. The American military is, at the squaddie level, probably the most "rightist" large organization in our society and of course there's no Franco just waiting in the wings to take the reigns of power.
(DIR) Post #A9BWafUswkJl79T9ii by rayptheon@poa.st
2021-07-11T16:38:26.232978Z
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the Soviet Union did awful shit to ordinary Russians for decades, and at the lower levels was staffed by those same ordinary Russians without fanatical attachment to Marxist theoryceling. What killed USSR in the end was massive apathy and economic decay, with a minor dash of ethnic tensions.
(DIR) Post #A9BWbSGNdSpWMM3lPk by Remington@poa.st
2021-07-11T16:38:49.607489Z
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@rayptheon Somebody on twitter said it best when they observed that leftists were "oversocialized", ie they were so concerned with one's political status that they would often attack and "eat" one another under the claim that their co-idealogue was insufficiently progressive. The only reason why these people were capable of a "long march through the institutions" in the first place is because the people who held positions of power above them were not politically socialized against outgroups in the same way. Once this new crop of people gained power in the institutions, and they cultivated and entirely class of oversocialized idealogues, they made it far more difficult for another political/ideological bloc to take power from them. Sure, they might attack and "cancel" from time to time, but that's just them making sure that ideological conformity is in place.If these people are so aggressive that they will attack each other for not supporting the newest permutation of left wing cultural values, what makes one think a group of rightists could infiltrate the same institutions? They have pulled the ladder up in totality.
(DIR) Post #A9BX0AI7akVhrOemp6 by Bangcubed@poa.st
2021-07-11T16:43:17.895481Z
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@Remington @rayptheon >"When I am Weaker Than You, I ask you for Freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am Stronger than you, I take away your Freedom Because that is according to my principles."The Long March Through The Institutions only worked because normies bought into all that freedom of speech/academic freedom nonsense. The communists are under no such illusions. The institutions can't be infiltrated and reformed, they have to be destroyed.
(DIR) Post #A9BY5Q82EiBQNg0c2i by Remington@poa.st
2021-07-11T16:55:27.101556Z
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@Bangcubed @rayptheon I think what non-leftists have to understand is that any political or personal relationship with leftists will be completely unreciprocated. Their own civic religion and mythos prides itself on not following established conventions, norms or even laws if they think those norms and restrictions lead to an outcome leftists believe is "bigoted" in some capacity. Considering the fact that leftists will always think that the society or community they live in is "bigoted" in some capacity, their own ideology gives them carte blanche to defy any norm that general society holds on to in order to advance a political/social agenda.As a result, any demand made by leftists to give more power to them or one of their client groups is in made in bad faith. Any appeal they make to legalism or some abstract concept of freedom is in bad faith as virtually all leftists will gladly turn any legalism or social norm on its head in three seconds if they think it gives them a more favorable political or social outcome. It's not even like this is a surprise that many conservatives see it as, these people say openly that they hold society's norms in contempt all the time, and believe that they are on an almost religiously ordained mission to us lesser rubes/racists/homophobes/bigots/etc.On the other hand many non-leftists, including most conservatives, actually adhere to norms even when said norms are not at all reciprocated by leftists in any capacity (including when said leftists never endorsed said norm in the first place). Reciprocity is everything in politics and in social conflicts generally, and leftists have made it abundantly clear since the 18th century that they don't conform to any social contract.
(DIR) Post #A9BY6C344UjD0A3JxY by rayptheon@poa.st
2021-07-11T16:50:34.382094Z
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@Bangcubed @Remington under full Sovietization (we are almost here) the reforms only come from elite defection (coup against Beria and then blowing his brains out) or externally (Wehrmacht takes Moscow)
(DIR) Post #A9BYYBP248Ct6ifrZw by search_social@neckbeard.xyz
2021-07-11T17:00:38.474459Z
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The institutions can’t be infiltrated and reformed, they have to be destroyed.You cannot destroy an institution without a replacement.Did we fight to “destroy” Twitter? No, that is folly. We join the Fediverse.Yet so many of our people yet try to “destroy” Twitter, by wasting their time posting/reporting on it “ironically”, or by lobbying for government involvement in “regulating” it.They are fools.We do need more rightists in Law, Business, and Universities. In our Law, in our Business, in our Universities. Anyone is welcome to call in to the Culture War Podcast today at 9PM central (2AM UTC). Anyone is welcome to get a free BSD VPS/training from IRCNow e.g. http://var.bsdforall.org/Our parallel institutions may not be housed in fancy marble buildings just yet, but the frontier has its own majesty, and it belongs to us. Let’s not let it slip away!@Bangcubed @Remington @rayptheonminute-man-3.png
(DIR) Post #A9BYlyOZDwrQos243c by Bangcubed@poa.st
2021-07-11T17:03:08.614155Z
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@search_social @Remington @rayptheon Successful exit *is* destruction.
(DIR) Post #A9BZKv9FHxCMssWvWy by Bangcubed@poa.st
2021-07-11T17:09:27.591397Z
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@Remington @rayptheon The right in general needs to become comfortable with the friend/enemy distinction.
(DIR) Post #A9BaC6ws94umpY6c7c by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-07-11T17:19:04.426263Z
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@Remington @rayptheon “Somebody on twitter said it best when they observed that leftists were “oversocialized”, ie they were so concerned with one’s political status that they would often attack and “eat” one another under the claim that their co-idealogue was insufficiently progressive.”This is in part a holiness spiral, familiar in older history in an officially religious context, and something we saw a lot in Communist and other Leftist regimes in the 20th Century, and the officially atheist French Revolution also has examples as far as I know. Jim formerly of Jim’s blog talks a lot about this, but beware he completely, totally does not care about facts (really), read him for theory, organizing principles, etc.: https://blog.reaction.la/The other aspect would be Bioleninism: https://spandrell.com/2017/11/14/biological-leninism/ Like the very low social status Jews and other miscreants who Lenin and company gave status to in and after their revolution (quite a bit of status if you’re detailed to execute Slavs who look down on you), today it’s the biological freaks of nature the Left elevates and puts in their outer circle, with World War T being the most in your face example as long as you avoid tangling with your HR department etc.So these people are pretty automatically socially insecure, add social media to the mix, and boy do you have a multidimensional toxic stew.One other factor: “overproduction of elites,” there’s a lot of people who were told study hard, go to college, and you’ll have a great career and life. So many people did that there’s not enough room for even the truly talented ones, especially since our ruling trash prefers working through pliable immigrants who suffer much of the above plus the threat of being sent back home (even if granted citizenship, surely a lot of them must know that’s not written in stone), no matter how bad the results often are.(Like the H-1B etc. scam, which is actually smart management of a sorts. Most IT projects fail, so using migrant workers and outsourcing to the Third World is simply a cheaper way to fail.)
(DIR) Post #A9Bb43YkxgAHxPY5R2 by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-07-11T17:28:49.174595Z
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@Remington @Bangcubed @rayptheon For an academic but interesting and easy to follow treatment of why “many non-leftists, including most conservatives, actually adhere to norms even when said norms are not at all reciprocated by leftists” I recommend Keven “Culture of Critique“ MacDonald’s latest, Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition: Evolutionary Origins, History, and Prospects for the Future https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1089691483/Several prehistoric peoples and certain environmental situations resulted in particularly special cultures developing in northeastern Europe, who then did things no other culture ever did, is really capable of doing, and boy are a lot of these other people envious of that. These cultures also have social policing mechanisms that our enemies are using to destroy us, something we must realize and surmount.As @Bangcubed said in this thread, “The right in general needs to become comfortable with the friend/enemy distinction.” For a religious angle on that, “‘“Love your enemies’ does not mean forgetting they are, in fact, your enemies.”
(DIR) Post #A9BbAZO5XTgIPJfGtc by Remington@poa.st
2021-07-11T17:29:59.903026Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @rayptheon There's an entire theory that the leftist hysteria of the past 8 years or so is due to the downward social mobility of people who assumed that their high-status degrees would confer upon them a secure institutional position. In order to differentiate themselves from the "lesser" whites that lack a college education, this class of person in turn engages in an almost religious devotee in order to differentiate themselves from others.I generally don't like that kind of class-centric analysis, but it seems to hold a lot of water in the case you are referring to.
(DIR) Post #A9BbbyvUh6v1QvMRLU by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-07-11T17:34:57.074142Z
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@Bangcubed @Remington @rayptheon “The institutions can’t be infiltrated and reformed, they have to be destroyed.”This is literally true. We will not succeed until we literally tear down all the buildings that comprise “Harvard” aside from some STEM ones and the libraries, and salt the earth in some way (I say we should get comfortable with radioactive materials properly used for that, but I’m a child of the Cold War). Reality plus symbolism, plus Harvard for example has been the enemy of all who live since the Unitarians captured it from the Congregationalists (Puritans) in ~1824.(That last event I’ve read was the start of the destruction of the K-12 schooling system in the US.)
(DIR) Post #A9Bbc7szNnGLDlG4Bs by Bangcubed@poa.st
2021-07-11T17:34:58.412613Z
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@Remington @ThatWouldBeTelling @rayptheon A class-centric analysis makes a lot of sense in the context of leftists, who are obsessed with status. I've observed this in the corporate world, the shitlibs/women love to talk about where they went to school and what formal recognitions they have, the right wing males don't mention it unless it's pertinent.
(DIR) Post #A9Bbrm9rvx7cT0cFAe by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-07-11T17:37:48.386986Z
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@Bangcubed @Remington @rayptheon “the right wing males don’t mention [where they went to school and what formal recognitions they have] unless it’s pertinent”A lot of them get around this by wearing a distinctive class ring. But indeed it’s not the right wing male style to constantly make a big deal of that sort of thing, see again Bioleninism and status anxiety, and women of course are their own can of worms when it comes to status.
(DIR) Post #A9BbxJaJ5B4faKchV2 by Bangcubed@poa.st
2021-07-11T17:38:48.478604Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @Remington @rayptheon Not sure this is literally true. Making the brand low status/toxic would be enough to mark it as destroyed in the minds of the normies.Most of the people with Harvard credentials on the other hand are irredeemable and dangerous, our future loving and right wing government must take all necessary and legal measures to sort them out.
(DIR) Post #A9BcgMbGiYOZy7YPGS by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-07-11T17:46:56.903530Z
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@Bangcubed @Remington @rayptheon I’m thinking of this in “revolutionary” terms, a counter-revolution of course, but still a revolution of sorts. We also need to figuratively grind in the faces of these people that their hour is over, and the impact on normies won’t hurt.Destroy Harvard to the point it’s just another Rockefeller University (the world’s premier biomedical research institution that only has graduate students, a with a strong enough science culture the rejected alum David Rockefeller when he was appointed to head it). You’ve almost certainly never heard of Rockefeller University and that’s OK, we want people to think about Harvard only as ruins plus that science work that’s still done on their grounds.OK, that kinda implies turning the old grounds into parkland or something aesthetically pleasing, need to think about this some more. Or just abandon the STEM buildings, most aren’t that special like biology wet labs, and move the equipment and some of the people elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #A9BcwdnuWP2PxWEFYO by Bangcubed@poa.st
2021-07-11T17:49:53.472517Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @Remington @rayptheon There's a difference in degree that amounts to a difference in kind. Recognizing a class ring or similar token such as a De Oppresso Liber shield is a test, a shibboleth. You either understand and accept that token or you do not. It's a natural acquisition of status as opposed to an artificial one - by recognizing it you are being invited to confer status on them as opposed to being told to. Right vs. Left, voluntary vs. involuntary. Flaunting status and demanding recognition is a leftist/woman/faggot/shitlib trait, inviting others to recognize status is a male/rightwing trait.
(DIR) Post #A9Bk0ktQo2EWmaihpQ by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2021-07-11T19:09:04.159561Z
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@Remington @Bangcubed @rayptheon imho This goes a little too far but this is a valid critique, generally. I don't think that *literally no* good faith exists on the left, obviously. But yeah, the social contract is definitely (non?)negotiable in this way.
(DIR) Post #A9BrNMmXJg1aLJDwUi by rayptheon@poa.st
2021-07-11T17:09:53.481137Z
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@Bangcubed @Remington Schmittian since we began