Post A8htVa4e9SDJ3AwReq by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
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(DIR) Post #A8h1RRpjS896oFXu64 by enigmatico@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-26T23:28:17.404256Z
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Microsoft is essentially telling me to go back to Linux
(DIR) Post #A8hDUs9rEYf4lxMJ4S by abloo@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T01:43:24.424013Z
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@enigmatico ooohtell me how?
(DIR) Post #A8hDjW3BiAqOYDDnjk by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T01:46:03.337288Z
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@abloo @enigmatico your new cpu is too old to run Windows 11
(DIR) Post #A8hDyAt0gJoZFsS0Zc by abloo@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T01:48:42.203939Z
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@GNUxeava @enigmatico what
(DIR) Post #A8hE71O9MaKsP9EcC0 by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T01:50:18.235390Z
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@abloo @enigmatico literally that. Anything older than 8th gen intel cannot run windows 11. And it is only for release builds. Insider builds can run just fine.
(DIR) Post #A8ht1q5y1Jb63HNShk by enigmatico@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:28:46.140238Z
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@GNUxeava @abloo I didnt know about that. I was talking about reauiring a TPM with SecureBot enabled and also the rootkit in their drivers.If they start banning CPUs just because then the more reason.
(DIR) Post #A8ht9GQQWZHrjwUISW by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:30:06.362399Z
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@enigmatico @abloo you do not need secure boot enabled
(DIR) Post #A8htMjH4ZiwmyjX7J2 by enigmatico@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:32:32.661001Z
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@GNUxeava @abloo Yes you do. Look at the requirements.
(DIR) Post #A8htOt2VEwufqLkNCS by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:32:56.288471Z
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@enigmatico @abloo you can disable it
(DIR) Post #A8htTK9mMP8L6YGZDk by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:33:43.896261Z
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@GNUxeava @abloo @enigmatico InTeL PaRtNeRsHiP
(DIR) Post #A8htVMBZmtRDyc4mW0 by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:34:06.443355Z
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@absturztaube @abloo @enigmatico during silicon shortage
(DIR) Post #A8htVa4e9SDJ3AwReq by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:34:08.307844Z
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@GNUxeava @enigmatico @abloo can you? from what i've read, it seems to require secure boot
(DIR) Post #A8htWsH9xll1n9PZGi by enigmatico@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:34:22.175117Z
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@GNUxeava @abloo It wont allow you to neither install it or boot if it is disabled
(DIR) Post #A8htXtFDqYdp5NzPUm by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:34:33.377972Z
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@GNUxeava @abloo @enigmatico oh and you need an internet connection to install it :blobcatgoogly:
(DIR) Post #A8htY4tgWSXlE40Nai by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:34:35.072550Z
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@absturztaube @abloo @enigmatico it requires secure boot but it need not be enabled
(DIR) Post #A8htbXvv1X509FhhQG by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:35:13.595938Z
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@enigmatico @abloo so if i install it and disable secure boot will it refuse to boot?
(DIR) Post #A8htcKxMkwLuBvl2yu by enigmatico@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:35:21.829653Z
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@absturztaube @GNUxeava @abloo The home version also requires an active internet connection and a Microsoft account.
(DIR) Post #A8htdULbKIvPbedu76 by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:35:33.942013Z
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@GNUxeava @abloo @enigmatico :blobcatgoogly: e? isn't that just a contradicting statement?
(DIR) Post #A8htfomsIoItZwVicK by enigmatico@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:35:59.690541Z
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@GNUxeava @abloo Of course. Its for your own good, so its more secure :akko_shrug:
(DIR) Post #A8hti8VTxNxBJhTrV2 by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:36:24.561473Z
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@absturztaube @abloo @enigmatico no. Windows just wants that feature to be present
(DIR) Post #A8htojnMEUGyhZzPe4 by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:37:36.079184Z
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@GNUxeava @abloo @enigmatico sure, but windows can't check if the feature is present if its disabled, no?
(DIR) Post #A8hu12FNSFS9P8xY6y by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:39:49.963944Z
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@absturztaube @abloo @enigmatico right. So the only option is to disable it after you install windows
(DIR) Post #A8hu4NXyiaKOKmFpLM by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:40:25.634022Z
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@GNUxeava @abloo @enigmatico it wont boot then, or does it?
(DIR) Post #A8hu5Npr8DT3WB5yoi by enigmatico@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:40:36.781715Z
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@GNUxeava @absturztaube @abloo If you disable it, it wont boot :meowGiggle:Thats precisely what SecureBoot is all about
(DIR) Post #A8huE3djaTRRUNYtcG by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:42:11.177089Z
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@absturztaube @abloo @enigmatico it *should* boot but that is up to Microsoft to decide.
(DIR) Post #A8huNAwNoR4WjpdGcq by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:43:49.367913Z
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@GNUxeava @abloo @enigmatico sounds to me like they are going to enforce it so it wont boot without secure boot
(DIR) Post #A8hucIfpLNAj476I2y by enigmatico@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:46:33.853756Z
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@absturztaube @GNUxeava @abloo Sounds to me like they want OEM manufracturers to enable SecureBoot on all their products so that people cant make changes in their hardware or even the software (Like installing Linux or something).Also I think Intel motherboards were ditching Legacy mode too.So basically you will be stuck with a system with a specific hardware configuration and operating system.
(DIR) Post #A8hun9l4paFwbHjUAK by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:48:31.226571Z
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@enigmatico @GNUxeava @abloo i'm not that familiar with who secure boot works in detail. but in concept, if you change your hardware you'd have to reestablish the trust chain. i don't think secure boot will look you out on changing hardware. that would be stupid af
(DIR) Post #A8huuP3iLGx656uD3I by enigmatico@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:49:49.686629Z
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@absturztaube @GNUxeava @abloo The whole purpose of it is to "avoid tampering with your computer". In fact, laptops usually has it enabled by default.It makes a lot of sense if you think about it.
(DIR) Post #A8hvBHZnPo85nVxbHM by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:52:52.236903Z
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@enigmatico @GNUxeava @abloo again, if you change the hardware (not tampering) you have to recreate the trust chain so it doesn't exclude changing hardware.
(DIR) Post #A8hvGgHH0JMdr4s2Pw by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:53:51.217292Z
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@enigmatico @GNUxeava @abloo if your hardware gets tampered with, its more likely that the attacker has not access to the keys needed to recreate the trust chain, while you as the user and owner of the pc have. at least thats how i understood it
(DIR) Post #A8hvU5TkcM6vmQ6Ejo by enigmatico@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:56:13.247135Z
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@absturztaube @GNUxeava @abloo Or... not. I've seen people having to flash their BIOS and install a custom BIOS on their laptop just to change a WiFi antenna on their laptop. Im not kidding.
(DIR) Post #A8hvbYw7UeuTATvvjk by enigmatico@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:57:38.118447Z
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@absturztaube @GNUxeava @abloo If you are not an attacker and you have no keys...
(DIR) Post #A8hvcwkkQgufK7H3x2 by absturztaube@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-06-27T09:57:52.835383Z
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@enigmatico @GNUxeava @abloo as i said, i don't know the details, just the conecpt. not saying that it is like that how i said it is. i might be wrong as hecc on this :shrugz:
(DIR) Post #A8hzfGtCvvOOAgaxqy by nero@udongein.xyz
2021-06-27T10:41:00.817765Z
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@enigmatico @absturztaube @GNUxeava @abloo it's like lost keys of your home, if you lost them then you're fuck*d even if you paid you rent or the PC is front of you, I dunno if that is good idea just it doesn't feel right to me
(DIR) Post #A8i6NBzX6XdVRmsdLU by longyap@kiwifarms.cc
2021-06-27T11:58:17.762341Z
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@enigmatico time to buy a new secure boot tpm ^tm certified pc
(DIR) Post #A8iAzdwQ2HpIx80vCK by anahata@tech.lgbt
2021-06-27T12:49:42Z
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@enigmatico @abloo @absturztaube @GNUxeava MS has been trying to do this for *decades*. Every time they try, they get slapped with a lawsuit or something and back off. I’m not sure the government / legal system are in a position where they can / will challenge them this time, sadly
(DIR) Post #A8iBAcWPeaf7jg5Gi0 by anahata@tech.lgbt
2021-06-27T12:51:42Z
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@enigmatico @abloo @absturztaube @GNUxeava This is exactly why you should never believe there’s a “new” Microsoft, that they’ve “reinvented themselves”, or anything like that. Being friendly with open source is a ruse to get your trust. “You don’t need to install Linux on your computer, you can just use WSL!” Good old embrace, extend, extinguish. This is nothing new.