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(DIR) Post #A8e7XRyE4uQzDBobi4 by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T13:52:29Z
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UNPOPULAR OPINION #11#unpopularopinion *psst psst* Hey. I got a secret to tell you guys. If you were making fun of leftists last year for being terrified of a disease with such a low mortality rate, and you are now yourself terrified of taking a vaccine that may or may not(according to VAERS) have a 0.00017% chance of mortality, guess what?You are just as stupid as they are. š
(DIR) Post #A8eAMSwePjeGuZX4Fc by Blackbirdearth@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T14:24:07Z
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@watch4thedrop I'll take Dr Malone's word for it that it's experimental.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9719891/Inventor-mRNA-vaccines-says-young-adults-teens-not-forced-COVID-vaccine.html
(DIR) Post #A8eAbJOoBgoteJmXrs by abnerhale@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T14:26:48Z
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@watch4thedrop I got the J&J vaccine about a week before the whole debacle where they stopped administering. I had no side effects that I can tell so far and it's been a few months.All I can say about the way they are messaging about the vaccine is absolutely abhorrent. If they wanted people to be skeptical and choose not to take it, they should just keep doing what they're doing now. There's some mitigation to be done if they want people to trust it.
(DIR) Post #A8eB5zkXIIKpgUZknY by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T14:32:21Z
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@abnerhale What do you think should be done differently
(DIR) Post #A8eBSe6jvMKPDvlJKa by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T14:36:27Z
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@Blackbirdearth it's a buzzword without any real meaning.
(DIR) Post #A8eBUXthz61AXgZZOy by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T14:36:47Z
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@Rooibos I have way too much fun with this shit š
(DIR) Post #A8eBoZq6TT6oMAREDQ by abnerhale@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T14:40:24Z
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@watch4thedrop There should be real discussions of the dangers and of the benefits from doctors and from people who have taken it. The way they are dealing with it now is "take the vaccine or you're killing grandma". It should be, "these are the benefits of the vaccine, these are some possible side effects". I want rational discussion about the vaccines instead of posturing and virtue signaling
(DIR) Post #A8eC7PXiyqPdvOp2jA by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T14:43:49Z
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@abnerhale I think the problem is you are getting the info from politicians, government officials, and social media authoritarians. If you speak to your doctor and/or pharmacist, they should tell you this information without the hyperbole.
(DIR) Post #A8eCXeapeAdK8BmzxI by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T14:48:33Z
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@Walterlongmire 1. not experimental unless you in the clinical trials2. emergency use authorization vaccines vs regular FDA approved vaccines go through the same clinical trials3. J+J vaccine is once.4. bribed and coerced are two polar opposite meanings5. it's not a 97-99% survival rate for everyone not that that's relevant6. dusty old senile meat pupper was correct and funny though. Kudos š
(DIR) Post #A8eCiIIurCSkBkU0f2 by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T14:50:28Z
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@MegasAlexandros @abnerhaleExcept it's not only the government telling you to take the vaccines. any healthcare professional you go to will tell you the same. If the government tells you air is good, you don't stop breathing because you dont trust them.
(DIR) Post #A8eDUdUDPBGXmfoqrQ by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T14:59:12Z
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@Rooibos that's interesting. although i think pfizer is the most popular amongst everyone period. There's benefits to being the first one through the finish line.
(DIR) Post #A8eEkYj8y2hdbwxULA by MegasAlexandros@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T15:13:17Z
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@watch4thedrop @abnerhale Ridiculous false equivalence. They condoned withholding Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine which created distrust in the medical community.
(DIR) Post #A8eEzxqFsEprqYd9Vo by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T15:16:05Z
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@Walterlongmire Donald J Trump is pushing the vaccineshttps://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210317/trump-urges-americans-get-covid-vaccine
(DIR) Post #A8eFCvIidFjTjN7irY by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T15:18:25Z
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@MegasAlexandros @abnerhale the medical community did no such thing. Those were governors and state boards. distrusting every doctor in the world because fauci is a moron is just plain stupid.
(DIR) Post #A8eI3VleUjzDnSrPvM by MegasAlexandros@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T15:50:20Z
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@watch4thedrop @abnerhale Another false equivalenceā¦ and overreaction to what I said. The fact that the medical community acquiesced to the media and whatever powers that beā¦there were simple solutions that were demonized that ultimately cost the lives of 100s of thousands of peopleā¦ that can not be minimized. Fauci isnāt as much of a moron as much as he is a manipulative insidious and corrupt monster.
(DIR) Post #A8eIFYRGOCX1YY4BM0 by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T15:52:31Z
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@Walterlongmire You either trust him or you don't. I do. and yes. thank you for the strawman everyone always brings upyou do you, i'll do meAnd part of doing me is calling out hypocrisy when I see it.
(DIR) Post #A8eIZ6IIjvVo3jC8eW by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T15:56:02Z
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@MegasAlexandros @abnerhale you're just saying "false equivalence" to everything and not even refuting the facts. that's just lazy. The medical community didn't "Acquiesce" to anything. When there's a new therapy proposed, the medical community does tests and studies to prove the hypothesis. These things take time. Some studies said the therapy worked, some said they didn't. Media and government chose to hyperfocus on the studies that said they
(DIR) Post #A8eIZiirrbLFF7utKy by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T15:56:09Z
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@MegasAlexandros @abnerhale didn't and make legislation off of it while ignoring the studies that said it worked. Medical community did what they were supposed to do. As usual, GOVERNMENT AND MEDIA fucked it up. And as usual, morons point the finger at the wrong culprit.
(DIR) Post #A8eJ1JH24kiqQH3Jzs by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T16:01:08Z
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@cathia @MegasAlexandros @abnerhale That's a very bad take. that kind of libertarian contrarian fallacy argument will make people think we are nuts.
(DIR) Post #A8eJUJSYSoHNOgGua8 by MegasAlexandros@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T16:06:23Z
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@watch4thedrop @abnerhale Itās a mixed bag of attitudes and feelingsā¦ itās not one finger pointing at one culpritā¦ thereās a variety of perspectives.
(DIR) Post #A8eJyRPHTraqjT6fp2 by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T16:11:49Z
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@MegasAlexandros @abnerhale ok and the perspective that the medical community "acquiesced to the media" is moronic and misguided.Medical community did their job. government/media politicized the usual procedure and made legislation out of it. There's still no real consensus on HCQ. There are multiple studies with differing results.
(DIR) Post #A8eJyvNY2s25gmWiHo by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T16:11:55Z
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@MegasAlexandros @abnerhale Politicizing healthcare is wrong no matter who does it. it's like when trump had a bad poll number in gallup and the libs went wild and then trump had a good poll number with rasmussen and the cons went wild. one data point means nothing. The media may have hyperfocused on singular negative studies but the right also hyperfocused on positive studies.
(DIR) Post #A8eKFRs70MvL66ha5o by MadBeachBimbo@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T16:14:54Z
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@watch4thedrop The same health care professionals flat out DENIED HCQ and Ivermectin from even being prescribed so thereās that.
(DIR) Post #A8eKKR5xJubG8WYV4S by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T16:15:48Z
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@MadBeachBimbo they didn't. read the back and forth with me and this guy
(DIR) Post #A8eKLoBuw0sG3czxfE by MadBeachBimbo@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T16:16:03Z
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@watch4thedrop My Doctor refused me HCQ saying it wasnāt āprotocolā. I live in FL and my Governor did not ban its use.
(DIR) Post #A8eKXI1wKlx1mro2xk by MadBeachBimbo@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T16:18:07Z
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@watch4thedrop Not all doctors did but mine did. Incidentally, not my doctor anymore.
(DIR) Post #A8eKlz0LLyyT7j48S8 by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T16:20:46Z
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@MadBeachBimbo even to this day, there's no real consensus on HCQ. there are some studies that says it works. some studies that say it doesn't. Doctors would have to follow the studies and make their own decisions. some will say yes, some will say no. This is how a new hypothetical therapy works until consensus is reached. I understand you were too sick to argue but other doctors would have filled it.
(DIR) Post #A8eMEbiv5gkTGr83uK by MadBeachBimbo@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T16:37:09Z
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@watch4thedrop If Iād been able Iād have gone to my oncologist. Most likely, he would have rxād it.
(DIR) Post #A8eNg1uHwvzSFZ5QKO by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T16:53:19Z
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@lablover65 @Walterlongmire My stance on that has always been, if it gets approval in kids, then there's no reason not to vaccinate them. Maybe Trump has seen some data that I haven't seen yet. baiting me in to an answer that's too early to determine is what people who have politicized healthcare do. and they usually end up with egg on their face.
(DIR) Post #A8eOK31rCHD9JUi04e by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T17:00:33Z
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@KathrynK @MadBeachBimbo too bad y'all don't have a pharmacist hookup š
(DIR) Post #A8eOPdFHyJXh5Lec2y by MadBeachBimbo@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T17:01:34Z
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@watch4thedrop I wish you were my pharmacist. Mine is really good but I think you would be great.
(DIR) Post #A8eOqQvvr9aeibNccS by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T17:06:25Z
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@MadBeachBimbo I would take care of you like a family member!
(DIR) Post #A8eQwFoSJbBVsGmnwm by MegasAlexandros@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T17:29:51Z
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@watch4thedrop @abnerhale Which brings us back to where we started. Loss of trustā¦ I believe it is the issue that makes many appear to be āantiāā¦ I think most of them are really just questioning as better information slowly rolls out.
(DIR) Post #A8eRWTrdYAGNsXY3jE by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T17:36:24Z
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@MegasAlexandros @abnerhale but you understand that the mistrust comes from politicizing the normal process, yes? Normally when a new therapy hypothesis comes out, no one cares or bothers to cherry pick studies each and every individual study that comes out until the medical community reaches a consensus which usually takes more than a year or two.
(DIR) Post #A8eRYwrEivqwNbXOqW by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T17:36:51Z
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@MegasAlexandros @abnerhale but you understand that the mistrust comes from politicizing the normal process, yes? Normally when a new therapy hypothesis comes out, no one cares or bothers to cherry pick each and every individual study that comes out until the medical community reaches a consensus which usually takes more than a year or two.
(DIR) Post #A8eRslzYpdlITJstwu by MegasAlexandros@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T17:40:27Z
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@watch4thedrop @abnerhale Thatās exactly what this conversation is about.
(DIR) Post #A8eSFXkpvsyAyXr528 by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-06-25T17:44:33Z
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@MegasAlexandros @abnerhale Ok. so put blame where blame is due. Media, government, and people who wanted so badly to be right that they politicized the usual procedure.
(DIR) Post #A9gpc1yhtzO1FoVoZs by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-07-26T19:07:52Z
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@Frankie The faulty logic is that you should only take a vaccine for a disease you are concerned about. We get vaccinated for many diseases less prevalent and less deadly than covid (chicken pox, mumps, pertussis, etc).
(DIR) Post #A9gv260w1DYT4TnnoO by Linnie@social.quodverum.com
2021-07-26T20:08:22Z
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@Gerg1970 @abnerhale @watch4thedrop Great point Greek. John Legend-in-his-own-mind, telling me to get the vaccine makes me NOT want to get it.