Post A8YuiMoFKvadCEDsh6 by adamwright@poa.st
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(DIR) Post #A8YsSAkqBmEPGbmQdM by 14point88niggawatts@poa.st
2021-06-23T01:09:55.415132Z
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There are some people in the ProWhite sphere that only seem to be interested in shitting on Christianity and promoting their, Stefan Molyneux tier, Blood and Soil Philosophy. Don't get me wrong, Blood and Soil are IMHO the most important ideas to focus on when being pro white. That doesn't mean we Throw the baby out with the bath water.I’m more interested in insulating my family from the risks of having an anti white ruling class. I’m interested in befriending similarly minded people. I’m not interested in being a sperg with the mentality that if it isn't 'blood and soil' it's semetic tricks. I’m going to have adult conversations about self improvement, self reliance and white sovereignty, instead of some overthought 'new age' europagan cult.Christianity and Pro White politics are in no way mutually exclusive. “If you teach your kids about Christ, how can you teach them about their Irish, Scottish Anglo, Greek, etc. heritage” is a weird criticisms I have seen, and the answer is easy… you do both. You show them traditional music, you teach them Gaelic, and Latin so they understand Latin mass. This critique is some low effort shit, and really stinks of "youthful naiveite" or "Infiltrator Subversive". Racialism and Christianity don't compete for the same space in my heart or mind. They are separate, and they don't interfere. Christianity is a universalist religion, and that is seen as negative by its detractors in this milieu. Anyone can be Christian, but the OVERWHELMING majority of Christian traditions are derived from European paganism. The OVERWHELMING majority of Christian history is European. More Europeans have been Christian than Pagan or Pan European Racialist, full stop. Christianity is very very white, even if practiced by others, even if its earliest past is in the middle east. It is constantly attacked by Jews, marxists and nonwhites (but i repeat myself). Those attacks alone are enough for me to know there is something to Christianity that the Jew fears.Prechristian "Europeans" weren't "Europeans" they were nations of tribes, like the mideast was and still is. One common thread tied all of Europe together, and created a "European" identity? CHRISTIANITY, AND THE DEFENSE OF CHRISTENDOM FROM ATILLA OR THE OTTOMANS, THERE WAS NOT A PRE CHRISTIAN EUROPEAN IDENTITY, ONLY TRIBAL ONES LIKE ROMANS, GAULS, BASQE ETC. FULL. FUCKING. STOP. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A COOPERATIVE AND MOSTLY CULTURALLY UNIFIED WHITE RACE WITH OUT CHRISTIANITY. FULL FUCKING STOP.All this sort of argumentation does is potentially drive away Christians that are on the fence about white nationalism/nazism.When you are after Hearts and minds you must meet people where they are. I'm sure some people's intentions are good and honorable, but not everyone is where they're at, and most people in this milieu aren't going to agree with them about what religion people should or shouldn't be. Most will say "just don't be jewish"You can think your opinion is correct, and sure there probably is some merit to some of the things said by these 'Cultists', but their opinion is just that, an opinion. How much weight does does it have? Like who the fuck are these people to come to me or you, and say, "hey give up the religion you've literally spent your whole life in." "I don't fucking know you, nnnnguy." Why should I give a shit what you think, why should anyone? Especially if what you think is a direct opposition to the oldest tradition I can identify with, within my family and ancestors. Christianity is an old tradition amongst Aryans, and I imagine these people will have trouble convincing their kith that they should give up their faith in Christ, let alone some random 'N-tower Poasters'Now, I appreciate any civil, good faith discussion, but I'm seriously not interested in some NeoPagan cult, and I'm pretty sure most Poasters aren't either. I'm glad y'all can enjoy it. I'm happy to discuss anything else with y'all, and will happily work towards 'An Aryan Age', but I will not abandon my faith, OK FAGGOT?
(DIR) Post #A8YtYd4lu3sunPkGum by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2021-06-23T01:22:17.671301Z
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@14point88niggawatts White Nationalism was born at the Battle of Lepanto
(DIR) Post #A8YuiMoFKvadCEDsh6 by adamwright@poa.st
2021-06-23T01:35:15.659367Z
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@14point88niggawatts Good effortpoast, pretty much sums up my thoughts too. I mute most reflexive anti Christian spergs at this point, even if the rest of their stuff is good, because they just can't let it go
(DIR) Post #A8YvcqS0JmcpLMkZE0 by 14point88niggawatts@poa.st
2021-06-23T01:45:28.024021Z
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@adamwright thanks, I appreciate that. I’ve already spotted a couple of autism aggravating grammar errors, but hey, I only proof read it once. I’ve been dragged into so many of these hell threads with the pagans, I generally ignore them, but sometimes they just pop up and tag me in some gay thread they’ve made or some shit, and expect the 15th time I’ve read their script to be the time that reels me in.It is getting old.
(DIR) Post #A8Yw0o171C4MkHb4cK by adamwright@poa.st
2021-06-23T01:49:48.009462Z
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@14point88niggawatts it's impossible to tell the difference between alt-retard sperg behavior and (((tribal))) conversation derailment tactics, so they all get muted or blocked
(DIR) Post #A8YwIV26L5g951Uqxc by 14point88niggawatts@poa.st
2021-06-23T01:52:59.902092Z
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@adamwright I like to lean towards the idea that they are impressed kids, with little life experience. But yeah, I’ve gotten some kike vibes from some pagang dudes, too.
(DIR) Post #A8Yx3EggvcUfzplfvs by Icosphere@iddqd.social
2021-06-23T01:58:59.796912Z
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@14point88niggawatts
(DIR) Post #A8Yx7jNsk0E0MI75qi by 14point88niggawatts@poa.st
2021-06-23T02:02:14.730714Z
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(DIR) Post #A8YxDU9MIJjMqd42HA by Kent@poa.st
2021-06-23T02:03:17.854949Z
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@14point88niggawatts ive never had conflict with my faith and my politics despite the latter being more prominent in my every day life. i am hopeful that the days of moronic debates between pro whites who half understand their own religion are over. NJP does not require a pledge to a god and has no plans to step on those that do.
(DIR) Post #A8YyA3qpiSz0MwKWeG by 14point88niggawatts@poa.st
2021-06-23T02:13:52.960200Z
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@Kent Yeah, as much as I like the NJP and support them, they’re not really the end all be all of pro white politics, especially in relation to the religious intersections with it. I’m with you though, that point stands up. Religiosity or a lack there of are not deal breakers for having pro white politics.
(DIR) Post #A8Z1EF04VRNXy4KtY8 by Tripp@poa.st
2021-06-23T02:48:15.150075Z
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@14point88niggawatts My problem is more-so with the structures of Christianity that have rotted to no end i.e. the Church structure and such, not so much the Christians that are being lead around by them.
(DIR) Post #A8Z2hl7MGybBvlNpei by 14point88niggawatts@poa.st
2021-06-23T03:04:47.536088Z
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@Tripp absolutely there are some major problems with many modern churches. Christians are the problem too. There is a lot of messaging, hitting church goers and their pastors/priests that is a problem for us. Young men and established men have to get involved with their churches and wrest them from the grips of the filthy moderns that lead and influence them. The problem is mostly horrid spinsters that have married themselves to the affection of their pastors and priests.Take back Christ from childless hags.
(DIR) Post #A8jSg8rVM9X1OQWffE by BillJohnson@poa.st
2021-06-28T03:28:41.814180Z
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@14point88niggawatts I didn't read all of your post, but you seem like a religious person that puts thoughts into what you do. So I have to ask you this. Since science and facts prove stuff like racial differences and being disgusted by gays is good and kids should follow their parents lead and all the things religious people like in their beliefs, why not just remake the Bible. Give Jesus a white name, have him explain things in a scientific factual way so you can sway atheists to your religion and give up all that brown people desert stuff. Have God be what you want with out all the stuff that can trip white people up.
(DIR) Post #A8jSg9GJrtNgdO8ULI by 14point88niggawatts@poa.st
2021-06-28T03:42:56.481363Z
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@BillJohnson Jesus was white, the arabs had not conqored the levant at that time, and the people were mostly Greek Persian and north african in phenotype, so white. When I say north African, think Carthage, Hannibal, Cleopatra, they were basically Greek. Mud people have been shitting up white places for a little over a millennia.As to why not remake the bible... well, it's a historical account, there are many primary, and secondary sources for the existence of Jesus. Honestly though, the question is obviously in bad faith. I presumes heavily that I don't "Really believe" the Bible, and that its just a book of stories and myths, etc. And yeah, baring the Gospel, there are some fairly tall tales in there.About the "God stuff, tripping white people up..." Well, considering the situation we (pro whites, natsocs, WNs, etc) are in, the bible, and the history of the early (pre roman-early roman) church are amazing guides on how to thrive and survive as a dissident group.Kindly take your disingenuousness and little coy jabs at Christianity and fuck off to whatever temple of moloch you rest your laurels in.
(DIR) Post #A8jTe8kitMSwQdxmYi by BillJohnson@poa.st
2021-06-28T03:46:36.166828Z
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@14point88niggawatts I was gonna say thanks for answering that question then I got to your last paragraph. Wow, such anger for someone who thinks hes right.I've not looked much into the bible but I have always heard there's no historical evidence. I wanted to ask you what the evidence is but I can see your in no mood to talk rationally.Have a good life.
(DIR) Post #A8jTe9GH03he0Uiyjg by 14point88niggawatts@poa.st
2021-06-28T03:53:47.200813Z
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@BillJohnson HAHAHAHAHA OK, asking me to rewrite the bible, my faith's holy book, the same book my grandparents read, and their grandparents, and there grandparents and so on for over one and a half millennia is a reasonable request to you?you want me to destroy and rewrite 1800-2000 years (depends on how you look at it) of European history and traditions. You want me to alienate any other Christian that could be interested in Naziism or pro white politics after I mention, "oh yeah we rewrote the bible, it all takes place in fucking Bavaria" Yeah, that's totally reasonable and merits a velvet touch in my response. why don't I ask you to go fuck men? is that morally acceptable to you? DO you want to totally rewrite the book on your beliefs and stances? no? OH HMMM
(DIR) Post #A8jWPPeW4m7oMTjGfg by BillJohnson@poa.st
2021-06-28T04:05:16.246479Z
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@14point88niggawatts For starters, I see you are deep into your religion. I see how I came across harsh now. But you must understand all the religious people I mean only believe in religion as a way to keep a community going. They don't actually believe its literal. Secondly, do you read the same bible your grandparents did? They do change it so often. Thirdly, history and tradition can be great, but sometimes men need to build something better for their children. All the atheists I know would be find with supporting a God if he just fell inline more with facts and reality.Fourthly, I grew up with friend who was from Iran, who was Persian. They are not white. They are different. And if they were once white that is gone now. I would never fuck men because science and facts show it to be disgusting and wrong. I don't do things that are wrong because of facts and truth. You only believe in morals, so why don't you become gay? Many Christians are being tricked to being gay right now, so why not? If they find a long hidden bible verse that says gay is okay, I'm sure many Christians will start fucking each others asses. I mean, they wouldn't have a reason not to if the bible told them so. And if you know of the history of the bible, you know its always changing with what it says. I say just change it to be in line with science so it can never be change to stupid stuff.And as someone who believes in facts, when new facts are presented, I do change my views. But only with facts that are proven to be true.
(DIR) Post #A8jWPQ7EM15rnXACQa by 14point88niggawatts@poa.st
2021-06-28T04:24:44.403743Z
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@BillJohnson "you must understand all the religious people I mean only believe in religion as a way to keep a community going. They don't actually believe its literal."No, you are not religious if you don't believe your faith. Thomas Jefferson was a deist, and rewrote the bible, he basically edited everything "supernatural" out of the bible. He was not then, and would not today, be considered a religious man, or a Christian."Secondly, do you read the same bible your grandparents did? They do change it so often."This is not a bad argument to bring up, but unfortunately the changes you refer to don't change the actual stories or morals much if at all, only the context of some things. Most changes were at the convenience of certain powerful people that needed a biblical precedent for some shit that wouldn't fly before the change. I don't like it, but old copies of the bible are available today. So, yes I could read the version that Martin Luther would have read. I, Instead, read the ~100 year old bible my great grandfather had, and it brings me joy to have it.Yes, the Catholic church has done some smarmy shit. No Human institution is perfect. What are you some kind of libertarian? the government is fucked up, do you want to live in anarchy because we can't have a perfect, incorruptible government?"Thirdly, history and tradition can be great, but sometimes men need to build something better for their children. All the atheists I know would be find with supporting a God if he just fell inline more with facts and reality."HAVE AT IT, MAKE YOUR OWN WEIRD SKIN COLOR WORRSHIP CULT.I'm going to relate to most of the people around me by being a Christian. Have fun explaining "New Atheism 2: Asatru Reimagined" to your next online date, and getting turned away for being a creepy sperg."Fourthly, I grew up with friend who was from Iran, who was Persian. They are not white. They are different. And if they were once white that is gone now." Yes, they are not totally white anymore, but in the time of Jesus, the near east, Persia, the Levant, Anatolia were all white areas and/or Greek colonies, so... My point stands, Jesus, and his Disciples were white.
(DIR) Post #A8jesCn1mGqiV2wzho by BillJohnson@poa.st
2021-06-28T05:20:04.917757Z
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@14point88niggawatts My first point and my main point in talking to you was to point out that you could win more people over to religion if you changed the parts many people think of as silly. I now see talking to you about that is futile. I see that you are a true believer in religion and God. I just want to tell you this story. My dad grew up very religious and went to church twice a week when he was a kid. After he graduated high school he married my mom and moved far from his parents to get a good job. He stopped going to church and thought more about life and science. Years later he returned to his parents for a visit and found that his parents had given up going to church, their church had become a social club and they did that instead. It pissed my dad off, he'd believed in God and was trying to grapple it with the science he was learning, and now to know his parents only went to church as a social thing and never believed in it shocked him. He himself basically stopped believing. He still vaguely believes in God, but he never raised me or my brother that way. And when I talk to him about it his belief in God seems more like habit then true belief. He never actually says he believes, and once told me maybe the universe itself is God.My main point is that though you are a true believer, your church might not be full of true believers and if you push to hard with the mystical stuff that makes people like me distant, you'll lose people when you should be gaining people.I'd like to go to church but I can't. I would feel like a liar. I do not believe in a God and from historical stuff I could never find evidence of it being real. I think religion can be good as I teaches people stuff that is factually great. Don't be gay, woman should be obedient, and parents should be listened too. But on your statement of- but unfortunately the changes you refer to don't change the actual stories or morals much if at allI don't know what bible you read but I know the Scofield bible was changed so that Christians would think jews are special. That's quite a big change!As to address your comment of- What are you some kind of libertarian? the government is fucked up, do you want to live in anarchy because we can't have a perfect, incorruptible government?No, I am not a libertarian or an anarchist. I am a white man. I care about facts and truth that can be proven with evidence. When ever I meet another white person, if they can be rational and see truth and facts, then we can agree on almost everything. We end up getting on the same page with all our opinions and being like brothers. I want all white men to wake up and work together to solve the problems we face. That is what I want. That is who I am.Libertarians are bitches that have been taught to bend over and anarchists are losers that are mad they suck. And on your point of me making my own religion- I care not for god or religion, I work with people through facts and logic, in a way that is my religion. And all around me I see more people coming to my way of thinking. I just wanted you to know how you could win more people over. I'm okay with no one being religious. And lastly, if Jesus and his disciples where white and had kids, their descendants are brown now.
(DIR) Post #A8jesDDyA6OrqbYVhQ by 14point88niggawatts@poa.st
2021-06-28T05:59:34.897066Z
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@BillJohnson Look, I'm not trying to evangelize on poast or in political circles. There's alot of Christians on here, I'm talking to them.You want to be agnostic/athiest have at it.on your point of pushing people away with religiosity, yes, it happens, and that's unfortunate. I never at any point said "I won't work with non Christians". If you are pro white, and for or neutral on Christianity, we can work together. If you are Anti-Christ, I could still probably work with you, if you leave critique of my faith out of the dialogue, or work we are doing, etc. that is fine too.I'm not demanding that WNs be Christian, I am demanding they accept Christians in their circles.Suggesting I rewrite the fucking bible really set me off, it was not a polite thing to say to someone who is Devout. I do believe in science, evolution, etc, I'm not crazy, I just follow my tradition, and the Gospel, it would be like asking you to not follow your traditions.WE are pro white, we can work together. I am Christian, and will not tolerate a non Christian insisting I commit heresy in the name of politics.