Post A8RPALrPtuXfipHpgW by qwazix@cybre.space
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 (DIR) Post #A8Fe2eWVnQ28hcmBxA by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-13T18:28:49Z
       
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       I've finished a blog post about Brave's false privacy. I give you arguments that will prevent yourself from falling for Brave’s marketing lies.https://ebin.city/~werwolf/posts/brave-is-shit/
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Fh3CafR3fkDpfpC4 by krom@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-13T19:02:36Z
       
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       @werwolf in my brave I have uBO and privacybadger installed, and disabled all the coinswhatever nonsense.Brave is a single browser that randomizes bunch of JS APIs that actually used for fingerprinting.So it’s effectively all good parts of chrome, plus extra api randomization, minus FloC and google altogether.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Fhuh7yd4csHOlFUO by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-13T19:12:14Z
       
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       @krom I achieve that with CanvasBlocker https://addons.mozilla.org/es/firefox/addon/canvasblocker/Anyway, you can't mitigate Brave's privacy issues with uBlock and Privacy Badger. And if you've read the article, you should know that uBlock (and Privacy Badger, which are redundant BTW) will stop working on Chromium soon.Even if they found a workaround, you'll still have the problem with chromium being developed by Google. So no a real option.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8FiEAXvTZYr1PBW0e by evanarkisto_hz@ussr.win
       2021-06-13T19:15:45Z
       
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       @Werwolf :gnu: Do you recommend using IceCat? I stopped using it because it didn't receive any update since 2019.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8FijRehui6b3wGoHQ by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-13T19:21:23Z
       
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       @evanarkisto_hz it's based on Firefox ESR so it should be okay. It also has the safest defaults.If you look at their git repository, there are recent commits, which aims to update to the newest ESR version. So it's being developed.https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnuzilla.gitAnyway, I recommend using hardened Firefox over Icecat since it's more frequently updated.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8FmIlUuQvdkbDDk6C by ttntm@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-13T20:01:27Z
       
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       @werwolf a good read, but I'm lacking alternatives on mobile devices. I'm using Brave with Blokada in the background and that's been ok for me so far.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Fpmo4TjEZZ8CsH5s by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-13T20:40:19Z
       
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       @ttntm I'd recommend Fennec F-Droid or Mull (both of them Firefox based). But if you need something chromium based, although I hate chromium, Bromite is much better than Brave in terms of privacy
       
 (DIR) Post #A8FtW53BkMWWgXYDKq by evanarkisto_hz@ussr.win
       2021-06-13T21:22:06Z
       
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       @Werwolf :gnu: I know it's based en Firefox ESR and I had seen the commits already, but I had a visualization issue with IceCat and Tor Browser, and TB solved it and I don't see it fixed in IceCat. Besides, I always see the same version in About section, so I don't see how it gets any update.I use hardened FF over Tor, and used IceCat for sites I had to identify myself.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8FtdSbMaAOxks3SYC by 6r1d@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-13T21:23:37Z
       
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       Now that's scary, I had higher hopes on Brave.Thanks for warning us.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Fw8VqImZEAgxycxE by menelkir@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-13T21:51:39Z
       
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       @werwolf also, their "decentralized browser sync" communicates with their server to sync, lol
       
 (DIR) Post #A8FyUMsQzr7rAHWWGG by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-13T22:17:36Z
       
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       @h3artbl33d yeah, I have a guide about how to mitigate Firefox's issues. However, as you can see, on Brave you can't. There are a lot of issues that can't be disabled at all. Well, you could if you took the time to read the code and change those.For me, not using Google's software is fundamental.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8G07nN0Wtnia0BiuO by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-13T22:36:20Z
       
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       @menelkir I missed this fact. Do you have any source? I guess that I could try to get the connections to the servers myself but I don't want to install Brave
       
 (DIR) Post #A8G13TPosWqZUH0SlU by menelkir@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-13T22:46:46Z
       
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       @werwolf I can't find a source, but I remember my pi-hole having hits on an url related to this service, not sure if still a thing since I didn't use it further because I had my concerns (and I was right)
       
 (DIR) Post #A8G21f4afHM319mCo4 by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-13T22:57:38Z
       
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       @menelkir I guess that you don't still have those pihole logs, because that would be great.Anyway, thanks. I'll try to get something to proof it so I can add it to the article.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8G2giKtRDad0hyf3I by menelkir@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-13T23:05:04Z
       
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       @werwolf Unfortunatelly no, I've just checked, I've cleaned the logs some time ago
       
 (DIR) Post #A8GZoMzPz4t3bsBtUu by ttntm@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-14T05:16:11Z
       
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       @werwolf cool, I'll check them out. Thanks!
       
 (DIR) Post #A8GjldDqArmucxGnBY by antonio@masto.rocks
       2021-06-14T07:07:45Z
       
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       @werwolf estoy de acuerdo
       
 (DIR) Post #A8HUVI7ZYVdCOb33HU by krom@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-14T15:49:39Z
       
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       @werwolf OK, you've convinced me. I've been using in parallel firefox, brave and safari. Now I'll exclude brave and see if I miss it.P.S.Latest firefox UI update makes me want to use it more :D
       
 (DIR) Post #A8MkHBdPRgQLHU2Gv2 by CryptoBlok@outerheaven.club
       2021-06-17T04:41:45.316777Z
       
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       @werwolf uh oh
       
 (DIR) Post #A8MpciG3qaAWJSCMm8 by CryptoBlok@outerheaven.club
       2021-06-17T05:41:40.260742Z
       
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       @werwolf I'm in Brave rn - welp. Guess I need to get a new browser - and completely overhaul my computer, for that matter....Time to begum hackerman!
       
 (DIR) Post #A8PdGUdxAZ1lk0tNBo by resist1984@social.privacytools.io
       2021-06-18T14:07:13Z
       
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       @Mojeek @werwolf Just like #DuckDuckGo, #Brave is good at marketing privacy not delivering privacy.  You can always count on ppl to confuse the two.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8PeqqMlyubrUbkl1c by resist1984@social.privacytools.io
       2021-06-18T14:24:58Z
       
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       @Mojeek @werwolf I saw your #Ratpoison article (https://ebin.city/~werwolf/posts/ratpoison/). I was recently considering installing it, but found maintenance has stopped some time ago.. that it's a dying wm. I suppose if you've been happily running it, there is no reason to jump ship but the days may be numbered. I'll be steering clear of it since it's a dormant project.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Q0gfbtJdbEEFNXSy by bufordk@mastodon.bigbombus.com
       2021-06-18T18:29:45Z
       
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       @resist1984I thought it was Dissenter that was not being updated. I use Brave on my Debian box and it's uprating all of the time. I will have to look into this article.  At the end of the day is it any worse than FF or Chrome?@Mojeek @werwolf
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Q1WYnps1dgAsi0DQ by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-18T18:39:08Z
       
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       @resist1984 @Mojeek ratpoison has received sporadic updates during the years. The devs said that it's feature complete. And I've been using it for 5 months as my only WM.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Q1cgImtwapAd6ZZw by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-18T18:39:59Z
       
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       @resist1984 @Mojeek ratpoison has received sporadic updates in the past, so we may see another one anytime. The devs said that it's feature complete. And I've been using it for 5 months as my only WM.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Q1jc3l4a4M2XNdqq by resist1984@social.privacytools.io
       2021-06-18T14:59:59Z
       
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       @werwolf @Mojeek Note as well that #Brave collects charity money without telling the beneficiary: https://lowkey.party/objects/33550868-a270-42eb-b613-c504730127aa  Might want to add that to your article.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Q1jcXtGYAjXzThom by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-18T18:40:57Z
       
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       @resist1984 @Mojeek I'll take a look, thanks!
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Q4a4euBe8jhmtmbY by charlegmane@noagendasocial.com
       2021-06-18T19:13:22Z
       
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       @werwolf Just read through this. Disappointed to find so much wrong with Brave.  Back to Firefox I go!
       
 (DIR) Post #A8QUZtFLDP8B7QVwR6 by AgreeableLandscape@mastodon.social
       2021-06-19T00:04:40Z
       
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       @werwolf Heads up, your SSL certificate expired today
       
 (DIR) Post #A8QZo5HRllsqGa5RIW by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-19T01:03:16Z
       
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       @AgreeableLandscape fixed, thanks
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Qg8f1lAjjmeNwb5M by Hyolobrika@counter.fedi.live
       2021-06-19T02:14:13.580394Z
       
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       @werwolf @BrodieOnLinux you might want to take a look at this
       
 (DIR) Post #A8QhFyGu7Y3OJh4rlQ by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
       2021-06-19T02:26:45Z
       
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       @Hyolobrika @werwolf I've never been on the Brave is a privacy browser thing, but I'll take a look. I use Brave for the crypto
       
 (DIR) Post #A8RPALrPtuXfipHpgW by qwazix@cybre.space
       2021-06-19T10:38:42Z
       
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       @werwolf there are some webkit browsers that aren't in bed with Google, epiphany being a pretty decent one.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Rca42i4JBrOV9yRU by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
       2021-06-19T13:09:02Z
       
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       @werwolf Some claims are far-fetched and you seem to conveniently avoid mentioning that Firefox is made with Google's money (and they happily take it). Firefox has repeatedly injected ads before without asking their users, and included proprietary extensions like Pocket. Let's not pretend Firefox is the privacy champion either, it's all relative.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8RcrDEV9XEqotqtu4 by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-19T13:12:09Z
       
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       @boilingsteam the article is about Brave and not about Firefox. I could surely do a similar one with Firefox's issues. But this one was about Brave
       
 (DIR) Post #A8RhzfErPZ45lXrycK by resist1984@social.privacytools.io
       2021-06-19T14:09:42Z
       
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       @bufordk @werwolf @Mojeek I suggest #UngoogledChromium if you want something Chromium based (which the use of Brave implies). I wouldn't trust #Brave in light of them collecting donations without telling the so-called beneficiaries, & whitelisting Twitter ads. Note that ungoogled chromium is is a cocktail of mods that they see on other chromium forks like Brave.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Rk2VgPaxkquHF1MG by mostly_linux@mastodon.social
       2021-06-19T14:32:37Z
       
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       @werwolf why are you continuing to post this when it’s been so debunked that you had to add a disclaimer at the top admitting that you’re wrong and that you didn’t check your facts?
       
 (DIR) Post #A8RkDz2emR0p9A7KF6 by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-19T14:34:43Z
       
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       @mostly_linux I'm not posting it. It's other people who boost it. That's why I added the disclaimer, that way even if it continues to be shared everyone who read it will be warned
       
 (DIR) Post #A8RkQml3lKiWoVzU36 by mostly_linux@mastodon.social
       2021-06-19T14:37:00Z
       
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       @werwolf gotcha. I suspect that given the nature of the fediverse that those people boosting it are in reality marketing agencies for Google, Microsoft, Facebook or Firefox (which is in bed with Google) 😂
       
 (DIR) Post #A8Rv1jVnnF9z0D6veC by bufordk@mastodon.bigbombus.com
       2021-06-19T16:35:45Z
       
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       Thanks. I need to investigate it seems.@resist1984 @werwolf @Mojeek
       
 (DIR) Post #A8S7Aqhdcrn7MQlCD2 by resist1984@social.privacytools.io
       2021-06-19T18:51:51Z
       
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       @werwolf @Mojeek thanks for the tip. Perhaps i'll still consider Ratpoison then. i have to decide between ratpoison & sway.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8TevFAeThQyDH1OPg by uku@liberdon.com
       2021-06-20T12:44:44Z
       
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       @BrodieOnLinux @Hyolobrika @werwolf what features does Brave offer, useful to you in this regard, if I may ask?
       
 (DIR) Post #A8VzYNKETpzOCHMLDc by kiklop74@fosstodon.org
       2021-06-21T15:45:18Z
       
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       @werwolf What about mobile space? Other than firefox and firefox focus there are not that much options.
       
 (DIR) Post #A8cTh7tpMjb4XArChE by AnCom@social.coletivos.org
       2021-06-24T18:51:17Z
       
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       @werwolf Thank you so much for this guide. I am doing away with Brave and downloaded Firefox today and will follow your guide to the "T".