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 (DIR) Post #A7ktFarbivsyWqJlNA by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:23:16Z
       
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       @SQ Peterson is an outstanding man of excellent character. He has been under siege from the radical left for many years. He has courage and speaks eloquently about significant issues. He stood up and spoke up when almost no one else didHe is wrong about Trump. And it isn't going to happen anyway, regardless of what he wants.But he is an important voice, especially for young men.As a side note, I have no idea what DIE is
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ktPI8kBzhHM1xR1U by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:24:59Z
       
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       @davidohlerking @SQ Peterson did not 'cry' because the internet was 'mean.He was the target and focus of insane hatred from the radical leftist mob for years. He has gone through a profound spiritual transformation. He has a lot to say and an audience who needs to hear it
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ktfUgpIhWEuTcpXM by SQ@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:27:57Z
       
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       @timr As a side note; I have no idea what DIE is either??
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ktihQOPPcFH8T13A by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:28:31Z
       
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       @Argentum47 @SQ No. Peterson is definitely not a 'grifter'. His message to men - especially young men - has to do with developing inner strength and moral character as well as ethics and a respect for truth and for themselves.There is a desperate need for that voiceAt times he has quoted Jung, references I disagree with. He is ambivalent about Trump's character but definitely not a NeverTrumper.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7kuOJ6lCwu21N7ldw by SQ@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:36:02Z
       
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       @timr @Argentum47 I do appreciate your comments. I have listened to him over the years. I’m thankful he ministers the youth. I don’t agree with his statement. Its not a Kumbaya time.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7kuXn4z90rVa8oeVk by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:37:46Z
       
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       @cultofskaro No, he is not. @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7kuyi2ty1szmzg3Tk by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:42:38Z
       
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       @SQ @Argentum47 Peterson is wrong about Trump and on that topic his opinion doesn't matter. He does not denounce Trump to his audiences. He thinks we should take the positive that Trump has done and move on.I disagree with his political analysis, and again, what he wants will not happen anyway. But he is not a Kumbaya type. He stands up for his convictions as a conservative
       
 (DIR) Post #A7kvWXZhP97b9y9MEi by mariahtj63@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:48:44Z
       
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       @timr Brilliant and brave man. Very skillful speaker with great messages for young men and women. My son thought his book 12 Rules for Life was excellent. @Argentum47 @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7kvfZoyQE58jVbSnA by rarity@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:50:22Z
       
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       @mariahtj63 @timr @Argentum47 @SQ Agree 100%.He’s also a very decent man.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7kvgESjJpeOmOVmJU by ChrisYork87@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:50:29Z
       
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       @timr @SQ the mans anObi Wan type.  Truly a Jedi master
       
 (DIR) Post #A7kw2nokY9WenoZcMi by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:54:35Z
       
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       @mariahtj63 Well said.There is a generation who are searching for an inner moral and ethical foundation. He is helping to answer that@Argentum47 @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7kw30FmJUHBN7JNA0 by Argentum47@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:54:37Z
       
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       @timr @SQ Perhaps grifter was too strong of a term to use in his context. However, he is way above his level as he is a Canadian trying to tell the American right what to do. If Trudeau and his Libs mess with the electoral system in the next Canadian Federal election, will he say the same to his fellow Canucks?
       
 (DIR) Post #A7kw8qhcjhdzUJ7ioy by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:55:40Z
       
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       @ChrisYork87Yes @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7kwJwHAM5HHxU2J6G by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T22:57:40Z
       
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       @Argentum47 @SQ I take your point about his 'advice' on our politics. He has almost no voice on that anyway.His voice on other issues is needed and important
       
 (DIR) Post #A7kwlNNhgaDBqLB2wq by SQ@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T23:02:38Z
       
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       @timr @Argentum47 We are moving on the best we can.!We are trying to take the high road no matter what has been thrown , shoved and stolen from us. I don’t care if his political analysis won’t happen. And the road to peace requires its pound of flesh from both parties?  😉 A public figure puts out a statement like that in the toxic environment we’re living in than he can take some criticism.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7kwxvvH5TL6RkrqHw by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T23:04:54Z
       
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       @SQ @Argentum47 Yes, he can take criticism - and he has. He is wrong on thisMy point is that his views on those issues are a very small part of who he is. He should not be dismissed because of his statement.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ky86yWwtuVZjo89I by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T23:17:57Z
       
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       @cultofskaro @SQ Read all of my comments about Peterson on the thread.I do not agree with Peterson about Trump. I do not agree about peace being achieved based on that romantic idea of mutual sacrifice. He is wrong.I specifically stated that my views on this political statement are separate from my views on his main message, his character and his importance for conservatives.We must be careful not to throw out conservatives because of one comment. He is a valuable voice beyond politics
       
 (DIR) Post #A7kymEIN9WVvrTDarI by mariahtj63@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T23:25:12Z
       
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       @timrYes he is. From the 12 Rules Book:JP's Rule 1: Stand Up Straight With Your Shoulders Back.(Lobsters---and Territory)😊  @Argentum47 @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7l0inEFWpjKxJmLiq by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T23:46:59Z
       
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       @cultofskaro @SQ Sure
       
 (DIR) Post #A7l1TGZSldXTHOrTGq by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-29T23:55:22Z
       
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       @mariahtj63Yes - those lessons used to be taught and passed on. Now it is far less common. He teaches young people especially to have self-respect and to respect others, to not fear their own strength and to develop their own discipline - and not automatically believe what they hear.Peterson does an outstanding job with this @Argentum47 @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7l40sfiKWtGuawRhw by KathrynK@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T00:23:51Z
       
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       @timr @Argentum47 @SQ Love Peterson but he's 100% wrong on this. IMO most Canadians confuse peace with pacifism. When you're dealing with corruption and evil there is NO middle ground.Never ever give up.🇺🇸
       
 (DIR) Post #A7l4EMrfNxBiJkxnP6 by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T00:26:18Z
       
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       @KathrynK Yes, but I don't think Peterson is suggesting this as an example of pacifism.He tends to be idealistic about what is possible in the political realm. That is a weakness for him.Fortunately his references to politics are tangential. They are not his focus@Argentum47 @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7l4GoheqxUvEjRwuG by KathrynK@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T00:26:44Z
       
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       @timr @Argentum47 @SQ Agree.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7l4br1bPsGWWCoI2C by Princessjasa@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T00:30:33Z
       
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       @SQ thats just what the demoncrats and rinos want..HELL NO...i want to kick some ass and take back my country..thats passive bullshit talk..just lost some respect for him...since his break down his talk is too over the ledge for letting things go..😞
       
 (DIR) Post #A7l5FHQbBSRThTIlJA by AngryDuey@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T00:37:40Z
       
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       @timr @cultofskaro @SQ if Peterson's statement had come from anyone else, we would instantly know he is a ne'erTrumper.So I am going to take him at his word and file him as a ne'erTrumper.He can stand for all he wants and say many wise things, but as a ne'erTrumper his political opinion just loses all value.Yes, we have had enough of ne'erTrumpers telling us how to proceed.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7l5kQh0mtwBPYpdTs by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T00:43:18Z
       
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       @AngryDueyWe have more important things to do than to create a litmus test to use against people who have fought hard against the left and have important and vital messages for conservatives on issues that transcend politics.Leftists and real NeverTrumpers are the opposition. A Canadian with no political power who is a powerful and effective conservative teacher is not our opponent.Leftist ideology is evil and false. That is our fight. We must not forget it @cultofskaro @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7l6CbPMXerAkj0i12 by SQ@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T00:48:24Z
       
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       @timr @cultofskaro @Erin got it from this comment.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7l7soZ07WZzfcD8YC by AngryDuey@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T01:07:13Z
       
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       @timr @cultofskaro @SQ 👍 Yes, evil and false ideology from the left (i.e. leftists) is our fight.Ne'erTrumpism creates and fails  the litmus test itself.  It's not me "against" a powerful and effective conservative teacher.  It is him revealing himself.I used to respect National Review, but the Ne'erTrumpism from that quarter lost me.  Same same (for me).I have a low tolerance for ne'erTrumpers.  Peterson loses nothing from me withdrawing respect.  May he be well.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lD8ctflPbLtJEsEa by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:06:07Z
       
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       @AngryDueyHe is not a NeverTrumper. That is a political term that applies to US politics. Peterson has no political power.He does not oppose Trump and he never supports leftists. He thinks we should take what we have learned from Trump and look to another nominee.I don't agree with him. But to say he has 'revealed himself' is a misreading.This is a real issue for conservatives now. There is so much anger now that we risk making mistakes. Purges cannot be undone @cultofskaro @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lDMKJDfbUuIOilQO by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:08:35Z
       
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       @AngryDueyHe is not a NeverTrumper. That is a political term that applies to US politics. Peterson has no political power.He does not oppose Trump and he never supports leftists. He thinks we should take what we have learned from Trump and look to another nominee. 1/2 @cultofskaro @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lDXvBysZvNs9rdSq by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:10:41Z
       
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       @AngryDueyI don't agree with him although I would prefer another nominee. I would support Trump without hesitation if he does run again. This is a real and serious issue for conservatives now. There is so much anger now among conservatives that we risk making mistakes. The litmus test that has become common is: Is he or she one of us? If there is any suspicion, they can be thrown out.We must use wisdom, discretion and rationalityPurges cannot be undone.2/2 @cultofskaro @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lDmPU7380JsRFnOq by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:13:18Z
       
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       @AngryDueyI would prefer another nominee, but Peterson goes too far. I would support Trump without hesitation if he does run again.  Trump is definitely the GOP leader and chief fundraiser - nothing will change that.2/3 @cultofskaro @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lDoRNOzFVGK75DQu by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:13:39Z
       
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       @AngryDuey This is a real and serious issue for conservatives now. There is so much anger now among conservatives that we risk making mistakes. The litmus test that has become common is: Is he or she one of us? If there is any suspicion, they can be thrown out.We must use wisdom, discretion and rationalityPurges cannot be undone.3/3@cultofskaro @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lFo1w3m9qvKOE5Cq by umad80@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:36:00Z
       
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       @SQ Yes, we should just let a stolen election go so that Dems can keep doing it and force these things on us.And why should I give up on Trump? That man sacrificed *everything* so he could make America whole again for me and all my fellow Americans.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lGRfKpDuZKohi3QO by masterblaster@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:43:10Z
       
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       @timr @AngryDuey @cultofskaro @SQ When we embrace ideological pure litmus tests, we set ourselves a course for failure and defeat. Sometimes we forget the that 75% conservative records beat the living snot out of 100% leftism. I do not have to be happy with say, Bill Cassidy, on PDJT, in order to back him on 2A, turning back “green” insanity, Socialist medicine and power grabs. It’s stupid as hell for us rub out mostly effective to avowed slave masters.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lGfZmcf2zPeXLQQa by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:45:40Z
       
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       @timr @AngryDuey @cultofskaro @SQ Amen! I like Peterson too, and think he's misguided about Trump. Either way, he's Canadian so it doesn't matter what he says about US politics.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lGplzw6NA8QqQyvI by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:47:31Z
       
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       @masterblasterI entirely agree. Well said. @AngryDuey @cultofskaro @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lHJdanuvU93Cv3s8 by SQ@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:52:55Z
       
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       @umad80 @timr Please reread the thread. I never commented or suggested to give up on Trump. I’ve always supported to move on and do what we can on a local level. I certainly believe and have faith in our next election. But, I don’t have to like the passive-aggressive  tweet Peterson put out. Make no mistake my friend I believe in the measured, steadfast, brilliant President Trump and sacrifice he made for us.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lHNhAyXIYhK4lzbE by umad80@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:53:39Z
       
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       @SQ @timr Oh, I know that. I was commenting on what that person said.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lHb0yoDXcaVXQwJU by SQ@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:56:03Z
       
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       @umad80 @timr 😰 whew! I certainly created a pile tonight.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lHgPjpargwk60Cye by MrHobbit@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:57:01Z
       
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       @timr @AngryDuey @cultofskaro @SQ Jordan Peterson is Canadian - what some refer to as a Leaf.That alone helps explain why he's acting squishy.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lHigLEpkncoea3ii by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:57:25Z
       
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       @SQWhy do you say that? You started a serious conversation. That's fine @umad80
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lHnolSwcjGO5IUka by umad80@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T02:58:22Z
       
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       @SQ @timr 😂We've all been there. But I think you created a good one. Tim's thoughts are always welcomed because they always make me think. 😁
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lIAjd6CbMz7dJNUe by SQ@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T03:02:31Z
       
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       @umad80 @timr Same here!I couldn’t gotten through the 2020 election without his threads . I was more informed about state senate races than I’ve ever been. He’s my rock.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lIM7aLTaeybXS9Dc by SQ@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T03:04:34Z
       
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       @umad80 @timr Same here!I couldn’t of managed getting  through the 2020 election without his threads . I was more informed about state senate races than I’ve ever been. His opinions matter. He matters. He’s my rock.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lJ0GcBK836C0SG8m by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T03:11:49Z
       
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       @timr Amen. Peterson is a Godsend for rational thought and conservative values.My granddaughter graduates highschool tomorrow night.Twelve Rules for Life is one of my gifts to her.@AngryDuey @cultofskaro @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lJzverLAkb9O6sa0 by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T03:22:58Z
       
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       @CduboisGreat gift @AngryDuey @cultofskaro @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lK9xRDZrQ7ZCVlfk by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T03:24:46Z
       
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       @timr I pray she reads it. She got Obama's tome for Christmas, and a book on RBG. I almost fell over when I saw them.Jordan Peterson is the crucial antidote.@AngryDuey @cultofskaro @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lKSKEVZ51lTcKCUi by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T03:28:06Z
       
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       @Cdubois"crucial antidote" - yes @AngryDuey @cultofskaro @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lL2dHsCODwzuDAky by AngryDuey@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T03:34:39Z
       
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       @timr @masterblaster @cultofskaro @SQ Yes, you put good perspective on it @masterblaster  👍 Responses here will make me think twice about my stance.I'm not afraid to be wrong as long as you can show me why I'm wrong.🤔 Thank you all for persevering in getting your thoughts across.  This is why I like it here.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lLAiJdO4JmuRt9Ye by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T03:36:08Z
       
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       @AngryDueyCheers 👍  @masterblaster @cultofskaro @SQ
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lMaP3JjIpueJ4OTA by masterblaster@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T03:51:58Z
       
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       @AngryDuey @timr @cultofskaro @SQ It’s all about keeping our heads clear and focused.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7lN6oHdSP0CAUDhCq by MusicMan220@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T03:57:50Z
       
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       @timr @KathrynK @Argentum47 @SQ If Peterson believes that Biden legitimately won the 2020 election and that US election integrity is not an issue, then his statement makes some sense.  If he doesn't believe that, then his demand for truth to be sacrificed to falsehood is suicidal. Sort of like Israel giving up Gaza in exchange for peace.  I wonder if he supported that move, too. I agree with you that nothing is to be gained by sacrificing the good to the evil.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7levCFgJcIsCluySO by barrsniffsatjejuneanalysis@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T07:17:25Z
       
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       @masterblaster @AngryDuey @timr @cultofskaro @SQ Unrelated to the core of the thread, but related to Jordan Peterson. Will untag you folks after this toot from courtesy to not clog your timelines.❤️ 1/ When my son was in his first year of college, he hit a wall and, with his back against it, slid down it to the floor.  In his dorm hall, mixed sex, hating and even disparaging masculinity was an edgy thing in 2018.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7mkpwRiRomKcRNtGC by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T19:58:25Z
       
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       @TheCalmObserver @timr @AngryDuey @cultofskaro @SQ Peterson is more influential about lifestyle choices -- I think the millennials are more following him for that than anything else. His talks sell out like crazy in California, which is kind of cool.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7mnZtz28TKYD70mau by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T20:29:07Z
       
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       @TheCalmObserver @timr @AngryDuey @cultofskaro @SQ Remember, he's Canadian, so he just hears their left wing news over there :) He's good at heart.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7mzh5PbF4RV8Gd7SK by JM@social.quodverum.com
       2021-05-30T22:44:54Z
       
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       @barrsniffsatjejuneanalysis Thank you for sharing that story, very uplifting and happy your son was there to receive Peterson's message. My hubby listens to him frequently.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7rOcGZU45urmV5Wxk by Clayrjr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-06-02T01:43:00Z
       
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       @timr @AngryDuey @cultofskaro @SQ Well said sir...
       
 (DIR) Post #A7u2ELxel7Ec1wSzvU by timr@social.quodverum.com
       2021-06-03T08:16:18Z
       
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       @barrsniffsatjejuneanalysis And that sums up Jordan Peterson and his message and his importance