Post A7d01cdXTniUO8LKDo by Lemonhead@social.quodverum.com
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(DIR) Post #A7cgaRWulhVUzdZSWO by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:23:41Z
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@Wiggumc1 It is indeed an anti-vax post. I'm sure that all the people who died of Covid would disagree with you! Btw, so you never go to the doctor with any illnesses or any shots at all then? Because your body is so superior??
(DIR) Post #A7chuHCoxkJeifC3eK by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:38:28Z
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@Lisa22 Lisa, he is not wrong. Getting the virus and surviving is at least as good as getting the vaccine. Both trigger antibody production. Both trigger the ability of your t-cells to make new antibody in the fact of your next exposure to the wuflu. It is why I am so angry that people with t-cell immunity are still expected to get the vaccine FOR NO REASON. There is now a test to prove t-cell immunity. That is the one everyone should be expected to get. If no t-cell immunity, then ..@Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7chxRpZunmIXcpmGu by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:39:02Z
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2. by all means, get the vaccine. Anyone that tells you different know bupkes about immunity. @Lisa22 @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7ci5JYmYAItCqjFqK by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:40:28Z
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@wziminer @Wiggumc1 Nope, not at ALL. I read this doctor in my local paper every day, and he said that antibodies could only be partial or just last for a few months -- NO ONE KNOWS because every person's chemistry is completely different. It's like playing Russian Roulette with your life. I won't do it and I won't advise anyone else to do it, either.
(DIR) Post #A7ciCwhfPlSWdNWWrQ by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:41:51Z
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@Lisa22 @Wiggumc1 He's wrong. People who had sars-covid 1, MERS and Spanish flu have long term immunity. It looks like those who had sars-covid 1 had a natural immunity against sars-covid 2.
(DIR) Post #A7ciJeNrvKnnqRSaky by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:43:02Z
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@wziminer @Wiggumc1 Girl, he's a Freaking Doctor! I've read his columns for YEARS. There is no way to tell. It's still like playing Russian Roulette.
(DIR) Post #A7ciOTqaWiR4c6CFX6 by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:43:56Z
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@Lisa22 @Wiggumc1 You are mistaking T-cell immunity with current antibodies. T-cell immunity is long lasting, and it's the way we fight against viruses. If your t-cells have been exposed to a virus, they have LIFELONG memories and stimulate your b-cells to make new antibodies. This has been kept out f the media but it's how our immune systems work.
(DIR) Post #A7ciQ7WwTHKLyhn04W by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:44:14Z
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@wziminer @Wiggumc1 Yeah, I don't think so.
(DIR) Post #A7cicTeC4CGu314biq by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:46:27Z
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@Lisa22 Friend, we will have to agree to disagree about this. Everything I have ever learned as a working physician tells me I am right about this. It's how viruses work. Did you see the video I posted about this yesterday? Drs fucked this one up. We should always have treated the virus instead of sending people home to wait to get sick enough to go to the hospital. It was an egregious break in our hippocratic oath. I have been fuming over this for a year. @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7cikqB4BSLyEyRAsS by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:47:58Z
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@wziminer @Wiggumc1 Yes, I disagree about throwing myself off a cliff because it's only 20 feet down, or drinking the water in an unknown river, or walking across the street without looking both ways. Same thing.
(DIR) Post #A7cioWloHXDbCxNjns by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:48:39Z
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@Lisa22 @Wiggumc1 Not even close. Time will tell. (I will end up being right.)
(DIR) Post #A7cispkdeVvbEdt4Xw by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:49:25Z
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@wziminer @Wiggumc1 How can you be right when hundreds of thousands of people have already died?? Sorry, but that's bordering on delusional.
(DIR) Post #A7cj2Jdtt1uwY1Fzg8 by DonnaLea@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:51:07Z
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@SomeLadyInVirginia @Lisa22 @wziminer @Wiggumc1 https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7abu6MhmCNxqUT4I/giphy.gif
(DIR) Post #A7cj3EBVfG4luTPcq8 by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:51:18Z
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@Lisa22 @Wiggumc1 It was addressed in the video from Dr McCollough that I posted yesterday. Drs blew it. The CDC has quietly noted that only 6% of deaths were FROM Covid. Most people had multiple other comorbidities. I am also furious... but 85% of the deaths could have been prevented.
(DIR) Post #A7cj8aw6VCcDv7lWYi by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:52:16Z
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@wziminer @Wiggumc1 Oh, so the 20 MILLION cellphone accounts that were deactivated in China was just faked as well??
(DIR) Post #A7cjA3MSIvAeMumq80 by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:52:31Z
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@DonnaLea @SomeLadyInVirginia @wziminer @Wiggumc1 We're both Jewish, so this could go on for hours :)
(DIR) Post #A7cjEM9aNOWToJopdY by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:53:18Z
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@Lisa22 @Wiggumc1 apples and oranges. They died b/c China didn't give a shit.
(DIR) Post #A7cjGtlyLtW0epzClc by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:53:46Z
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@wziminer @Wiggumc1 Way to do a word salad, but okay, fine.
(DIR) Post #A7cjILFTgP00A7TWc4 by DonnaLea@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:54:01Z
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@Lisa22 I'll tune in later and read the whole thread 😊 @SomeLadyInVirginia @wziminer @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7cjK08d8rirGi40jw by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-25T23:54:19Z
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@DonnaLea @SomeLadyInVirginia @wziminer @Wiggumc1 Ha ha!
(DIR) Post #A7cjwB9scM9US1qvoG by JM@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:01:14Z
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@wziminer I wonder why we only catch Chicken Pox once...🤔
(DIR) Post #A7cjwo0KBogKvggLpY by Ozzytrumpster@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:01:20Z
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@Lisa22 @DonnaLea @SomeLadyInVirginia @wziminer @Wiggumc1 Years
(DIR) Post #A7cjzRtaqSk9EInI6i by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:01:49Z
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@Ozzytrumpster @DonnaLea @SomeLadyInVirginia @wziminer @Wiggumc1 Ha ha!
(DIR) Post #A7cjzd3vKOXhrWiCEi by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:01:51Z
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@JM well, in all fairness..... shingles is a thing and we do need a shingles vaccine (which I took.)
(DIR) Post #A7ck3RHD5ZOiT4k8i8 by JM@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:02:32Z
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@wziminer Your choice...👍
(DIR) Post #A7ck3hlDnkuXamuKi8 by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:02:34Z
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@Lisa22 😘 True. @DonnaLea @SomeLadyInVirginia @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7ck4mi0tD9fEEvDVo by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:02:47Z
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@wziminer @DonnaLea @SomeLadyInVirginia @Wiggumc1 😜
(DIR) Post #A7ckIyIEcHPnD7d3VQ by Wiggumc1@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:05:21Z
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@Lisa22 @wziminer I would think that the deaths in China were compounded by their horrific air quality. No way of knowing what the respiratory condition of those victims were prior to this virus but it couldn't have been good.
(DIR) Post #A7ckP65yWLOj98od9c by Mamahorbs@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:06:27Z
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@wziminer did you know they came out with a “better” one? My doctor said I should get it, I told him “ I just got one two years ago on your advice. You said it is good for a lifetime.” He said “this one is better.” I said no thanks.
(DIR) Post #A7cl5o45QvHZg6IVqS by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:14:10Z
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@Mamahorbs I actually got the "better one" b/c it was the only one available. It is truly a good one. Chicken Pox, like Covid, is not nearly as deadly in the young. Chicken pox, in those over 20 can be VERY deadly. We need, in the future, to treat cCV-19 the same way. Anyone over 40 or diabetes, obesity, heart disease needs the vax. Like pneumovax, it should be mandatory over 60. That is kind of a "duh."
(DIR) Post #A7claxQAhHJZfmTurI by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:19:47Z
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@JennyL @Wiggumc1 @Lisa22 That's not all of it. Like India, there are huge populations that are undernourished and living on top of each other. We found that, in the US, forcing people to stay home in small spaces encouraged the virus to multiply. People who worked (left the home) did not get sick as often as people forced to congregate in small spaces. It was another egregious mistake. We really fvcked up. Adults gave the virus to the kids... not the other way around.
(DIR) Post #A7clxd34bkG79IUK3c by ConnieinVA@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:23:54Z
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@Lisa22 Now THAT was funny and totally unexpected in that moment. ☺️ @DonnaLea @SomeLadyInVirginia @wziminer @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7cmVoDzYt47emtSlc by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:30:04Z
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@jannadale If you have had the virus, you have made antibodies. We make antibodies because we have T-cells. When we get viruses, T-cells encourage b-cells to make antibodies against viruses. Once you have been exposed to a virus, and t-cells have made antibodies, the next time you are exposed, you have a smaller chance of getting sick. It's why kids get sick more often, and their parent don't. They have already been exposed as children. @Lisa22 @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7cmcYHfEAN4FDpIWW by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:31:18Z
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This is simplified, but it's how it works. @jannadale @Lisa22 @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7cneu4rGquqMwWPVw by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:42:55Z
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@Lisa22 @Wiggumc1 Sorry, just saw this. Did you forget that I am a freaking Dr, chief of Anesthesia in multiple hospitals in my large Texas City, and well respected for my knowledge? Followed for it? Voted in as Chief for it? It's OK... I get the Covid Fear. I just... well, wanted to remind you. I get your fear. I am trying to relieve it... a lot of it was harnessed by the lying MSM.
(DIR) Post #A7cnfn7wb5436RO9Sa by oystergirl@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:43:05Z
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@wziminer I completely agree with you Wzi. No one knows the real science that we learned in virology class. T-cell immunity is paramount to a healthy and reactive immune system. Lisa, I appreciate your point of view but please remember the survivability of this virus is over 99% in most age groups. @Lisa22 @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7cno4pydQ6OLYw3oe by JM@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:44:35Z
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@wziminer Truth matters!@Lisa22 @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7cntmWNe8ldHIUPQ0 by oystergirl@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:45:37Z
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@wziminer 100% correct on the co-morbidities and some of them happened to be fatal car accidents. The CDC was abhorrently fallacious in their reporting. The numbers are THERE but no one looks at them, they only listen to the news and scientific pundits. @Lisa22 @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7cnyvNY8qFQCHoMRU by hejoural@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:46:32Z
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@wziminer Praying for you, Doc. I think folks here forgot who you are and what you do. Your grace and patience are extraordinary. I hope they start to get it. I am very disappointed in this forum. @Lisa22 @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7coahQiS4M7wJIxWq by fishndoc@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:53:22Z
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@wziminer Its funny how the emphasis is on the "B"s and not the "T"s . https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/health/covid-new-test-t-cells/index.html
(DIR) Post #A7cotB8El8VXGrTNpY by EarlThePearls@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:56:42Z
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@wziminer Generex Biotech is working on a vaccine that give T-Cell immunity using Li-Key Technologyhttps://generex.com/generex-posts-recording-of-may-6-shareholder-conference-call-highlighting-its-ii-key-covid-complete-vaccine-and-its-go-forward-plans-for-revenue-producing-assets/@Lisa22 @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7cowX3ThoI68KqWI4 by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T00:57:19Z
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@EarlThePearls will have to research. This is new to me. @Lisa22 @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7cpLGPoi02dlY5VRY by WhirledPeas@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T01:01:47Z
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@wziminer @Lisa22 @Wiggumc1 Adding this reference: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7826135/Was pretty sure I had Covid back in Dec2019/Jan2020 before we knew what it was. My whole family, that is. Was godawful, had to go to Urgent Care a couple of times. We had a disabled tenant who moved in since then. Took care of him in Feb2021 when he tested positive and became quite ill. Neither my wife nor I got Covid then though we cleaned his room, provided him meals, helped him with tele-doc appointments.
(DIR) Post #A7cqHz0X4eEcrVGE1w by EarlThePearls@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T01:12:23Z
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@wziminerI have been posting about it since about the same time the virus came by. They have had good luck with some cancers using the technology@Lisa22 @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7crajiaFBwutmN5hQ by YolandaHolman@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T01:26:59Z
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@wziminer @Lisa22 @Wiggumc1 I learned this in nursing school. I had a mild case of COVID last fall. After a lot of research on both the COVID vaccine and mRNA vaccines in general, I decided to receive the COVID vaccine. I experienced zero ugly side effects. (There is also a promising cancer mRNA vaccine undergoing testing. Exciting science!)
(DIR) Post #A7cs258Oj6jn8gU8lE by YolandaHolman@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T01:31:56Z
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@Lisa22 @wziminer @Wiggumc1 I followed some brave, English speaking Chinese citizens Jan 2020 who were reporting from Wuhan - high casuaty rate Their cell phones were deactivated (probably by the CCP) by the end of January.
(DIR) Post #A7cvuNl9zhsIP7CSXY by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T02:15:22Z
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@Teneseo @wziminer @Wiggumc1A month ago. Please provide proof of what you say, or links?? So far, no-one is.
(DIR) Post #A7cvvuLwIb9DmP89uy by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T02:15:38Z
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@Teneseo @wziminer @Wiggumc1 Oh sure, whatever you say.
(DIR) Post #A7cvxkoEkjWIlBFMqu by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T02:15:57Z
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@YolandaHolman @wziminer @Wiggumc1 20 MILLION?? Okay, lol
(DIR) Post #A7cwKmozRCcBf2a8HY by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T02:20:08Z
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@Julie @wziminer @Wiggumc1 And I explained that an ACTUAL PHYSICIAN writes in my local newspaper every day, but you decide to do what you accuse me of which is Twitter troll behavior and accuse of me of calling a doctor a swear word when I don't swear? Sadly, you are a Twitter Troll full of beetle droppings. I'm happy if you muted me.
(DIR) Post #A7cwfatWyak6kgcySO by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T02:23:54Z
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@wziminer @Wiggumc1 I have no fear, I've been vaccinated, and what's more, I just quoted you about a doctor I read in the newspaper every day, which you IGNORED. Am I supposed to be awe struck because you're a doctor and not get vaccinated because of what you say??? Oh, SURE.
(DIR) Post #A7cwk1HmnQwzlG5DIu by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T02:24:42Z
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@Wiggumc1 @wziminer Ha ha!! Sure, okay.
(DIR) Post #A7cwrswNhvn2CBp0gy by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T02:26:07Z
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@ConnieinVA @DonnaLea @SomeLadyInVirginia @wziminer @Wiggumc1 Ha ha! I can't be too serious for long. That's just me :)
(DIR) Post #A7czErSLanYCA0rCa0 by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T02:52:40Z
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@jannadale @wziminer @Wiggumc1 That's not how it works. It's not known if you have partial immunity or even a month or two of immunity from getting Covid, it varies from person to person.
(DIR) Post #A7d01cdXTniUO8LKDo by Lemonhead@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T03:01:29Z
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@DonnaLea @SomeLadyInVirginia @Lisa22 @wziminer @Wiggumc1 lol
(DIR) Post #A7d4TJb4GL6LGJeCyO by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T03:51:19Z
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@jannadale @wziminer @Wiggumc1 I think each person would have to get tested, and tested and tested again to see how long they would be immune or if they are just partially immune. Like for months on end.
(DIR) Post #A7eMKYGwK6MWVIADBo by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T18:46:08Z
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@jannadale @wziminer @Wiggumc1 Yes, so you might as well get the vaccine then.
(DIR) Post #A7eMWLHwQGVji5Fpjs by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T18:48:16Z
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@Teneseo @wziminer @Wiggumc1You know, it's so interesting to see anti-vaxxers become almost FANATICAL in trying to browbeat people into not taking the vaccine. @umad80
(DIR) Post #A7eMetF6499VKk02t6 by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T18:49:48Z
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@Teneseo @wziminer @Wiggumc1 Oh, because Tucker Carlson is like a GOD! *snicker* Let us all bow down to the Great Tucker!! He will show us the way! Lol!
(DIR) Post #A7eR4bdIYnmw41pzdY by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T19:39:16Z
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@Lisa22 There is a t-cell test that will test for long term immunity. @jannadale @Wiggumc1
(DIR) Post #A7eRc7EK6UWPcK8OCu by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T19:45:20Z
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@Lisa22 Yes, and that's a problem, especially for the vulnerable. @Teneseo @Wiggumc1 @umad80
(DIR) Post #A7eems02MwtyyDuVtY by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T22:12:56Z
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@Teneseo @wziminer @Wiggumc1 @umad80 So why are you trying to berate others for getting vaccinated?
(DIR) Post #A7eetGG15mypwSQrmS by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T22:14:06Z
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@wziminer @Teneseo @Wiggumc1 @umad80 A problem?? I would say that thousands of people dying of Covid, including losing a big portion of elderly, is more than a "problem."
(DIR) Post #A7eevmkvEcOVJU5kbw by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T22:14:33Z
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@wziminer @jannadale @Wiggumc1 Good. Others can play fast and loose with their lives, I'm not.
(DIR) Post #A7eevwlI26d8LWLBZY by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T22:14:33Z
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@Lisa22 I'm not here to fight with you Lisa. Untag me. @Teneseo @Wiggumc1 @umad80
(DIR) Post #A7eeyzbZuyA828FbAu by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T22:15:08Z
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@wziminer @Teneseo @Wiggumc1 @umad80 Could've fooled me.
(DIR) Post #A7efBh2OGMEODBqcjI by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T22:17:26Z
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@Mominthezoo @Teneseo @wziminer @Wiggumc1 Sure, believe Fox -- the same network that said that Biden was winning on election night before Arizona's votes were even to the halfway mark (!)
(DIR) Post #A7eoKe5zTADhHUsL1U by IDscot@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-26T23:59:53Z
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@wziminer Does this test have a specific name? doubt I can get it around here now, but worth keeping an eye out.