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(DIR) Post #A7RZdmByUTZFaEY3QO by flipside_valentine@pleroma.miria.love
2021-05-20T14:19:45.908546Z
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A friend sent me this. Curious what others think of it.https://nsuworks.nova.edu/cps_stuetd/136/
(DIR) Post #A7RZdmfkhlO34aTpq4 by miria@pleroma.miria.love
2021-05-20T14:22:14.661816Z
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@flipside_valentine I'd have to read it, but this part of the abstract is very funny."These results suggest that based on CSA status, a college sample does not exhibit significant deficits in psychological functioning or family environment and may not be comparable to samples of CSA survivors in the general population."
(DIR) Post #A7RZdn5z8EN2NwkmjA by cum@anime.website
2021-05-20T14:44:00.678255Z
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@miria @flipside_valentine gotta love college, it magically removes trauma from those people that would otherwise be victims!
(DIR) Post #A7Rc8a084B3Weup7Uu by flipside_valentine@pleroma.miria.love
2021-05-20T14:23:54.606399Z
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@miria If I'm reading the abstract right, it seems to me like they basically just found the same results that Rind did in 1998... but then are trying to play it off like it's unique to the college sample?
(DIR) Post #A7Rc8aTCK6JA74QKo4 by miria@pleroma.miria.love
2021-05-20T14:28:24.679202Z
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@flipside_valentine Looks like it. Not sure what they were trying to do. But oh well... Another replication of Rind et al. in the middle of the replication crisis.
(DIR) Post #A7Rc8aop1hbbC8XbVo by flipside_valentine@pleroma.miria.love
2021-05-20T14:37:08.276677Z
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@miria Still, since this is recent, surely it's positive that they came to the same conclusion.
(DIR) Post #A7Rc8bDHYlAgPzz8dc by miria@pleroma.miria.love
2021-05-20T14:38:36.922473Z
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@flipside_valentine Or rather that they found the same results. The thing with science is, it can be replicated. Gravity doesn't stop working depending on who's studying it, it always works. Yet victimologists have great trouble replicating their findings.
(DIR) Post #A7Rc8bgLogQJs9aLwm by flipside_valentine@pleroma.miria.love
2021-05-20T15:02:00.407902Z
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@miria All the more reason for there to be more studies like this so the empirical facts become more and more undeniable to the scientific community.
(DIR) Post #A7Rc8byQjSswmE2n7w by miria@pleroma.miria.love
2021-05-20T15:05:23.362845Z
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@flipside_valentine Empirical facts are irrelevant to these people."Ultimately, I do continue to believe that the prohibition on adult-child sexual contact is primarily a moral issue. While empirical findings have some relevance they are not the final arbiter...Some types of social relationships violate deeply held values and principles in our culture about equality and self-determination. Sex between adults and children is one of them. Evidence that certain children have positive experiences does not challenge these values, which have deep roots in our worldview. This is the main reason that Sandfort's research has had relatively little attention, and has little relevance for policy."- Dr. David Finkelhor
(DIR) Post #A7Rc8cJLThcDp5pUjA by flipside_valentine@pleroma.miria.love
2021-05-20T15:09:12.831895Z
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@miria Fucking morons. They literally have proof right before their eyes that these relationships aren't harmful, yet they still maintain this dumbass mentality."Evidence that certain children have positive experiences..." What, you mean the vast majority of them? And "deeply held values and principles about equality and self-determination..." Who are you to speak of equality and self-determination, when you maintain that children aren't equal to adults and don't have the right to determine who they want to have a relationship with?
(DIR) Post #A7RcpKc19pwlNovnSy by Madcowboy3812@anime.website
2021-05-20T15:16:48.920477Z
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@miria @flipside_valentine That's like saying the reality of the situation doesn't matter at all... we feel this way! Our delusions must be maintained.
(DIR) Post #A7RcpL2bYzDKiHN1uK by flipside_valentine@pleroma.miria.love
2021-05-20T15:17:16.456162Z
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@Madcowboy3812 @miria That is exactly what they're saying. They're all but admitting outright that scientific evidence is meaningless to them, and that all that matters are irrational cultural taboos.
(DIR) Post #A7RcpLUxrXto8Edg6y by cum@anime.website
2021-05-20T15:19:43.494274Z
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@flipside_valentine @Madcowboy3812 @miria when the average sociologist cant look past societal taboos... yikes
(DIR) Post #A7RjE2FRAiOhONX43E by applejack@gameliberty.club
2021-05-20T16:31:25Z
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@miria @flipside_valentine Literally the only arguments against Rind are somewhere in between name calling and goalpost moving. Collage sampled demographics matched the general population, and if it was extreme it should show up in any sample
(DIR) Post #A7RjFS48fReDkovHeq by Ake@anime.website
2021-05-20T16:25:36.167007Z
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@miria @flipside_valentine It did replicate some of Rind's findings regarding self described consent and long term psychological correlates. They were pretty explicit about that part. Pretty impressive that it holds even during the middle of the current moral panic and with a sample almost exclusively of women.
(DIR) Post #A7RjbwtOjcwNjTcu5g by applejack@gameliberty.club
2021-05-20T16:35:45Z
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@miria @flipside_valentine >David FinkelhorFinkelthinking it. Funny
(DIR) Post #A7RjnYP9bcYlGB0uuW by miria@pleroma.miria.love
2021-05-20T15:19:18.883460Z
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@flipside_valentine @Madcowboy3812 In case you don't know who this guy is, Finkelhor is one of the most important "CSA" researchers. His research is frequently cited.
(DIR) Post #A7RjvVD9MatDfiBn96 by miria@pleroma.miria.love
2021-05-20T15:19:58.424577Z
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@flipside_valentine @Madcowboy3812 And obviously, his research is biased since he has a conclusion already in mind and sets forth to prove it.