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(DIR) Post #A7M2JK4h3JRiJEyxSi by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T22:37:00Z
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ThreadFor @M4x You wrote:"sounds like you’re counting on [your brother] to do something. "Knowing very little about the situation, I can already tell you it’s a poor strategy. "Direct action always trumps indirect action."
(DIR) Post #A7M2ZGYzsIjq3Kl6rg by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T22:39:53Z
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Well, you negated your post in your second sentence.When you know very little about something, you shouldn't offer an opinion.You sound exactly like my brother.His "direct action" got him into his current mess.Now he has to move three warehouses of crap to Vegas, and I get a house free of charge.AND.His bills and mortgage just doubled.
(DIR) Post #A7M2uXirGzLxLsW6rI by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T22:43:43Z
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I, on the other hand, walk away with negligible expenses for the rest of my life.He was going to ask me to refund half of what he spent refurbishing the Vegas house.Now HE'S out all that money.I did all of this without raising my voice.See, I knew this was coming, so I prepared for it.He doesn't know me any more than you do.But he loves fights. Someday he'll pick a fight with the wrong person. That's what always happens to direct-action types.
(DIR) Post #A7M39znbASN6m06QFc by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T22:46:30Z
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Welcome to "someday."He messed with the wrong person, for no reason other than he wanted his palace all to himself.When I demanded that he explain himself, I discovered that he lives in a world of hallucinations.You don't look for rationality where there is none. YOUR approach would only antagonize him, and he's VERY unstable.It's all well and good to talk tough.Until you find yourself in a life-and-death situation.
(DIR) Post #A7M3Y5KsEZ6StY9Ztg by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T22:50:52Z
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I'm almost 60 years old, and I can count the years of my peace of mind on the fingers of one hand.You're telling me that I need to throw away everything, for the simple pleasure of proving to an invisible audience of blockheads that I'm not a pussy.Guess what?Go ahead and think I'm a pussy. I'm indifferent to the opinions of others.My brother and I had a terrible relationship for most of our lives. He became rational only when he started taking medication.
(DIR) Post #A7M3sRqOG4AiUkbZEO by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T22:54:31Z
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Now that he stopped taking his meds and started drinking again, he's back to where he was before.I, on the other hand, underwent 18 months of the most intense psychotherapy anyone has ever endured.Since I knew that there was a lot wrong with me, I found a psychiatrist who agreed to hit me as hard as he possibly could.I had to find out WHAT I WAS DOING MYSELF that prolonged the agony of my life.Therefore I asked him to not sugarcoat anything.
(DIR) Post #A7M4JLJ4ficQ2RqVsW by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T22:59:25Z
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It was the hardest thing I ever did. Humiliating and a terrible shock.But we had to break down that wall.Talk therapy isn't for everyone, but it worked for me.But only when it was done as clinically as possible. I hated letting a stranger into my head. He proved to me that he had no agenda.That's what made it possible.Along with the fact that I knew it had to be done.My brother tells me that he cured himself of all his mental ills.A total lie, of course.
(DIR) Post #A7M4c2rBUZYqJricSG by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T23:02:47Z
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He's ashamed of being mentally ill.I'm not. It's reality. How could I be ashamed of something I had nothing to do with?Shame is reserved for ACTIONS, not states of being that you didn't even cause.People talk about the "stigmatizing" of the mentally ill, but why would you want to be around those who are stupid enough to make fun of a disability?I don't demand special treatment, and I don't care what others think of me.
(DIR) Post #A7M5Ir2dITgA7vUElc by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T23:10:32Z
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When I was defending Israerl on Twitter in 2014, they all attacked me for being mentally ill.I just laughed.They were telling me the things that I myself wrote.Am I supposed to be hurt by my own words, as uttered by the totally defective?I happen to know exactly what I'm doing in this case.My brother will come to a bad end.I refuse to be the one who delivers him to his self-imposed fate.END
(DIR) Post #A7M61gRtWi7SJ1g9Sq by Jaime@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T23:18:37Z
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@ThomasWic I refuse to be the one who delivers him to is self- imposed fate.Very powerful statement.I ❤️ It.👍👍
(DIR) Post #A7M6A0aaWtfh5PiNea by bonmarche946@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T23:20:08Z
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@ThomasWic I read this persons comment earlier and I almost said “Your going to get it” in that sing song childish voice... but I scrolled on. I came back here after a light dinner and saw your thread. Thanks for the chuckle and the reminder of how you accomplished peace of mind. @M4x
(DIR) Post #A7M6jA1XRYx8U05AgK by AZBeto@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T23:26:29Z
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@ThomasWic Michael Jackson pitch “HEEEEE-HEEE!”😂👍
(DIR) Post #A7M7LliVkYCoOFamOW by Cbvheartland2@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T23:33:28Z
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@ThomasWic My wife works on a Geri psych ward and the thing that upsets her the most is the wealthy people that are on her unit that family members have called the police on them and had them admitted These people aren't insane they've usually caught the very members responsible for their predicament stealing from them and tried to get them away from their money The system is broken and it seems the elderly have less rights than the criminally insane especially if they have money
(DIR) Post #A7M7qVUw6LrJ45tqr2 by Ozzytrumpster@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-17T23:39:00Z
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@ThomasWic A lot of the stigmatisation is due to fear.people are afraid of someone who could possibly turn on a dime with no perceptible reason. This is actually a reasonable survival instinct
(DIR) Post #A7MChZWmFWLGjAJtDM by leslied_g@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T00:33:26Z
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@ThomasWic 🙏
(DIR) Post #A7MDIKZknrrh4MEwl6 by AmareVita@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T00:40:05Z
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@ThomasWic A lot to be learned from that thread. Thanks.
(DIR) Post #A7MG7QVWhyve8xkrMO by Twoseyloo@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T01:11:43Z
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@ThomasWic How does one find a psychotherapist who is trustworthy and not crazy himself? ( herself).
(DIR) Post #A7MH64QDR8o5JKBi6K by GRUDGERODRIGUEZ@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T01:22:41Z
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@ThomasWic My dad was a violent alcoholic who dealt weed and coke, which means he did weed and coke. He was also a seeder and had children out of the woodwork.My mom is a diagnosed Schizo. She stops taking her meds and we’re all back at square one.I told my son we’re all kooks, the only difference with me is I know it.It’s easier when you know.“Knowing is half the battle” - G.I. Joe cartoons
(DIR) Post #A7MHkjxiPUXNjGFYoq by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T01:30:01Z
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@Ozzytrumpster I agree.Most psychiatric patients are like my brother. They decide that they don't need their meds anymore, so they revert to the person they were before they were treated.My PTSD manifests itself as homicidal rage. That's why I take meds.If I stopped taking my meds and murdered somebody, IT WOULD BE MY FAULT.In a lot of ways, all of this is moot, since I'm a happy hermit.
(DIR) Post #A7MIB01DKqfJ3YPLIO by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T01:34:45Z
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@Twoseyloo Insist on an introductory session.I explained exactly what I wanted--to find out why I kept making the same bad choices over and over--and to make sure the psychiatrist wasn't sicker than me.He won me over when he said he had no vested interest in me getting better, and if he felt I was wasting his time, he'd end the sessions.I needed total dispassion, not a Hollywood therapist.He wasn't cold; just not emotionally invested in me.
(DIR) Post #A7MIBPSMl2Erx0IsaW by Ozzytrumpster@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T01:34:51Z
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@ThomasWic You are not trying to impress a parole board. You have a moral compass and the guts and willpower to deal with any med side effects because you know right from wrong
(DIR) Post #A7MJN8mcfrRzfVw6HA by Marr1987@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T01:48:11Z
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@ThomasWic I read your threads and listen to BB. You seem like such a great guy. I feel sorry for your brother not taking advantage of knowing you and being in your life.
(DIR) Post #A7MKt9ESdkc8HXmcnQ by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T02:05:10Z
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@Marr1987 @ThomasWic I agree! His brother is missing out by a LOT.
(DIR) Post #A7MQYRmZ4lBlSRFOm8 by LI_Catfish@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T03:08:39Z
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@ThomasWic Very true, as recovering alcoholic for decades I learned to separate my alcoholism from what I did while actively drinking. I can be ashamed of and make amends for what I did while actively drinking but I'll never apologize for being alcoholic. I have no control over that. I am powerless and no longer fight or try to control my illness, I chose to accept my illness and not consume something that will have an adverse effect on me.
(DIR) Post #A7MQtpjZDeg1p82jCK by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T03:12:32Z
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@Twoseyloo @ThomasWic Also I'd ask if they use CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy). It's therapy that gives you healthy ways to handle different situations.
(DIR) Post #A7MSPswytd5L1IAH9U by Twoseyloo@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T03:29:31Z
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@ThomasWic my experience had been that my therapist needed more help than me. No a judgement. Finding out what I want is a good start.
(DIR) Post #A7MT16b97Iza3vhQY4 by WatchfulCat@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T03:36:15Z
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@Cbvheartland2 @Ozzytrumpster That is just incredibly sad. I take care of my widowed 95 yr old mom in my own home. She is sick a lot and I clean up the foul messes. She whines a lot, but I try to listen. She has money. But I couldn’t live with myself if I did any less for the woman who birthed me, fed me, dressed me, and all the rest. She was always there for me. And although I get exhausted at times, I still love her more powerfully than my own inconvenience. .....Money or no money.
(DIR) Post #A7MUIcS42V2zjPMmqe by KodiakIsland@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T03:50:37Z
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@WatchfulCat @Cbvheartland2 @Ozzytrumpster In my family it’s generational we take care of our own. Period. My mom showed me and I passed it on to my daughter. I’m an independent cuss and need nothing but their love... now. I know I’m wanted and that’s an awesome feeling. I hope I’m always independent and take care of my health mentally, physically and spiritually.
(DIR) Post #A7MUPIC5ksGKvl4sQi by KodiakIsland@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T03:51:50Z
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@WatchfulCat You are doing the right thing. Prayers for your continued strength.❤️🙏🏻
(DIR) Post #A7MUeXZ8sxCewu883c by leslied_g@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T03:54:35Z
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@WatchfulCat @Cbvheartland2 @Ozzytrumpster I feel the same. I’m caring for my 94 yo mother and 95 yo step dad in their home which is just across the street from mine. Moved here 6 years ago (FL) just for this reason. It does get messy but we are blessed for these days. ❤️🙏
(DIR) Post #A7MVDzsHcsWkslzS3E by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T04:00:59Z
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@WatchfulCat @Cbvheartland2 @Ozzytrumpster What I've heard, is that the kids sell their parents' home, put the money in a trust and then stick the parent/parents in a state home.
(DIR) Post #A7MXjxEx9ioNt3xaHQ by WatchfulCat@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T04:29:11Z
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@KodiakIsland Thank you very much.
(DIR) Post #A7MZ3fAAAz6nZEgI9Q by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T04:43:56Z
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@Twoseyloo Agreed.It's one reason I was so hesitant to undergo talk therapy.I had a VERY specific goal, and I unambiguously expressed all my suspicious of psychiatrists.He was diplomatic about his colleagues, but he told me how HE did things, and it was clear that viewed his patients as only that: patients.Sick people.As a medical doctor, he felt it was his job to try and mitigate the illness. Nothing more.As horrifying as it was, psychotherapy was the best thing I ever did.
(DIR) Post #A7MZiXCEhUQQjT8jBo by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T04:51:18Z
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@Lisa22 @Twoseyloo 1 of 2I couldn't tell you what this doctor's school of thought was. He simply got me to see that I'd been conditioned to see intimacy and genuine emotions as filthy and dangerous.To compensate, I fell in love with the notion of a romantic, betrayed hero, when in fact I chose people who I KNEW would betray me.It was a Danse Macabre.The predators DID seek me out...but I also sought THEM out.My patterns are too deeply ingrained to overcome.
(DIR) Post #A7Ma2PR3GWJESBXxKK by leslied_g@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T04:54:54Z
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@ThomasWic @Lisa22 @Twoseyloo Excellent insights..
(DIR) Post #A7Ma4vjCAnVzBdEeGW by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T04:55:22Z
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@Lisa22 @Twoseyloo 2 of 2It's not a matter of behavior; it's a matter of inability.I honestly don't know what certain emotions are. I'm incapable of feeling them. The one time I thought I did, the person was only pretending. She was an illusion.It was all a game to her.I had two VERY close friends who sought me out, but they sensed death on me. Both died young, one by suicide.Still, those were real friendships.Anything beyond that is impossible for me. I'm too damaged.
(DIR) Post #A7MaBozxaldoLHMZBA by leslied_g@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T04:56:37Z
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@ThomasWic @Lisa22 @Twoseyloo ❤️
(DIR) Post #A7MagJBfum16evNbpw by Beelover1972@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T05:02:07Z
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@ThomasWic @Lisa22 @Twoseyloo You may be damaged, but you are tough as nails and so wise. That's what will get you through this nonsense with your brother. I am so sorry you have had to go through this.
(DIR) Post #A7McCxgOzLG5TUt0Pg by NSP@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T05:19:13Z
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@ThomasWicWhat do you mean by your friends sensing death on you?@Lisa22 @Twoseyloo
(DIR) Post #A7MdeOSddVzUIY5oIa by karnage@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T05:35:24Z
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@leslied_g @WatchfulCat @Cbvheartland2 @Ozzytrumpster Good daughter.
(DIR) Post #A7Me1l1Rv4DEvpW3ai by karnage@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T05:39:37Z
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@WatchfulCat @Cbvheartland2 @Ozzytrumpster You are doing the right thing.
(DIR) Post #A7MfM84u0aSsBRPQVE by leslied_g@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T05:54:30Z
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@karnage @WatchfulCat @Cbvheartland2 @Ozzytrumpster It’s my honor ❤️
(DIR) Post #A7Mx42Ar1FEDppiLGS by Ozzytrumpster@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T09:12:56Z
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@WatchfulCat @Cbvheartland2 I have an autistic daughter in her 30s. She is in nappies for both wee and poo. She gets hyper aggressive at times and is very set in her ways. But we love her and will care for her whilst we are able.
(DIR) Post #A7NT6hwBuZKoTUAsFM by karnage@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T15:11:58Z
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@leslied_g @WatchfulCat @Cbvheartland2 @Ozzytrumpster God Bless You.
(DIR) Post #A7NbGXcNvuF8zy6tVo by Twoseyloo@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T16:43:23Z
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@ThomasWic @Lisa22 I get that. We all seek out the same thing over and over hoping for a different outcome. I call it my journey.
(DIR) Post #A7NbbVxbI9ePwE2C48 by Twoseyloo@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T16:47:11Z
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@ThomasWic I’m scared to death of that. Perhaps thinking shrinks are all damaged is a defense mechanism on my part. Who knows? Doubt I’ll find the courage at 59 to do it. I like my life. No complaints. Just self aware of certain damage,
(DIR) Post #A7NckPRL0Hs0HAkV60 by cshores8@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T16:59:59Z
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@ThomasWic @Lisa22 @Twoseyloo My dad tells me all the time, “your much better off by yourself than with the wrong one”.I’m appreciating hearing it more by the day!
(DIR) Post #A7Nv46ccTc4CsaZFxI by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-05-18T20:25:14Z
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@ThomasWic @Twoseyloo You know, I don't think she was pretending. I think she just said those things because she knew she messed up her life and she struck out at you. Just my two cents. But the fact that you could have two close friends in your life, leads me to think that something beyond that is still possible. And I also believe in miracles, as I've seen them happen. Never say never.