Post A7JSgGYcJKIvOXhRZY by adlerweb@social.adlerweb.info
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 (DIR) Post #A7DiRTBhVAkKXeBhcO by kev@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T22:16:29Z
       
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       I’m compiling a list of what makes #Windows unstable/frustrating compared #Linux. If you have any thoughts, please feel free to share them below. 😊
       
 (DIR) Post #A7Diq1r8G2EX0tHHVI by Coneng@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T22:20:55Z
       
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       @kev slowwwwwness… bloated l
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DjjGngOdY7I10O8W by oysmal@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T22:30:49Z
       
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       @kev Been a while since I used windows, but those annoying updates you cannot reschedule comes to mind. I like to control when my computer does something.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DkrCU6QUGKAvBybY by moddedBear@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T22:43:34Z
       
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       @kev Windows feels like it was designed solely for desktop machines that are left on 24/7. If you have a laptop, be prepared for Windows to eat away at your resources and battery life doing who knows what in the background because it can't do it all in the limited idling time laptops usually have. It's even worse if you only have a HDD and don't use Windows as your main OS, since it can quickly get behind on updates and other services putting you in perpetual update hell.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7Dl3QFR50v8Kw9xyq by textovervideo@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T22:45:46Z
       
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       @kev The app you're trying to install isn't a verified app from the Store
       
 (DIR) Post #A7Dl6Mo8KMogXFnFKa by joeligj12@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T22:46:20Z
       
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       @kev I was messing around in the audio settings, trying to get a microphone to work.For some reason, the pop up volume slider dissapeared forever, rebooting dos nothing and its the kind of problem that you will never find by googling it.I ended up spending a couple hours downloading and burning an ISO, and reinstalling it once again. Also, my audio got extremely low, as if the connector itself burned or failed or something after plugging a mic. Now I have to use an external audio card.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DlAp7qz2aLWL8tO4 by joeligj12@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T22:47:05Z
       
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       @kev I was messing around in the audio settings, trying to get a microphone to work.For some reason, the pop up volume slider dissapeared forever, rebooting dos nothing and its the kind of problem that you will never find by googling it.I ended up spending a couple hours downloading and burning an ISO, and reinstalling it once again. Also, my volume is now super low, as if the connector itself burned or failed or something after plugging the mic. Now I have to use an external audio card.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DlCJLA8DtbWG4ou8 by joeligj12@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T22:47:18Z
       
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       @kev I was messing around in the audio settings, trying to get a microphone to work.For some reason, the pop up volume slider dissapeared forever, rebooting did nothing and its the kind of problem that you will never find by googling it.I ended up spending a couple hours downloading and burning an ISO, and reinstalling it once again. Also, my volume is now super low, as if the connector itself burned or failed or something after plugging the mic. Now I have to use an external audio card.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DlZIHCFmQwscBH3w by kev@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T22:51:33Z
       
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       @joeligj12 …and I assume your mic works out of the box under Linux?
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DlatzbVjmO90idWa by kev@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T22:51:45Z
       
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       @textovervideo that’s a new one on me
       
 (DIR) Post #A7Dm57YndBpuuYagvA by textovervideo@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T22:57:16Z
       
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       @kev Your Windows licence will expire soon
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DmY62KNKbkaEDdIG by joeligj12@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T23:02:32Z
       
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       @kev Haven't tried it, tbh it probably wouldn't either xD. But I know it probably wouldn't break my jack port
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DmbvFIRAnqH56pua by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
       2021-05-13T23:02:42Z
       
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       impossibility to load/unload drivers. I won't complain about terrible system debug, although it is. it also has ugly inner architecture.and windoze is TERRIBLY slow. it's slow starting from the processing of bus interrupts and up to end-user software.it also has terrible priority of network over everything else and if the network is busy the system simply hangs up. and one cannot choose the scheduler in it.thank goodness I don't have to deal with it any longer.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DmjsYUKA5QFMscls by edgren@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T23:04:39Z
       
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       @kev Of course, the most famous: blue screen of death! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_screen_of_death
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DmocKq3drFOAksJU by joeligj12@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T23:05:40Z
       
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       @kev Honestly. I don't even get what happened. I didn't care about the mic. All I know is that I plugged it, didn't work, I plugged headphones and they now had a very low volume.And my volume pop up dissapeared.Yeah that's the tldr
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DnWOlFt1bG21zIHo by unicornfarts@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T23:13:22Z
       
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       @kev Windows registry. What a clusterf*ck!thankfully Linux doesn't need things like this.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7Do24asP6GwkaEjmS by pixelherodev@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T23:19:09Z
       
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       @kev As someone who dislikes Windows, the length of the list heavily depends on what distro you're comparing to.Between Windows and, say, Oasis, I'll take Oasis every time. Between Windows and Ubuntu? Honestly, no idea which I'd pick.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7Doh6hZTHEBA2w0PY by jarbus@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T23:26:17Z
       
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       @kev For me, it was the inability to disable Windows Defender. It was such a poorly developed antivirus program that slowed down my computer by orders of magnitude. Back when I used to game, if I was experiencing major lag, it was because Windows Defender was doing some massive scan I couldn’t disable. I NEED to have the final say when it comes to what my computer runs, and when it runs it.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DonjwgTcWebwANWq by sotneStatue@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T23:27:32Z
       
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       @kev bloatware that gets reinstalled with every update
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DpCezc1nscUQQ25o by JodiFOSSter@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T23:32:26Z
       
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       @joeligj12 @kev have you tried with wireless/Bluetooth 'phones?
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DpFXIZ5knxUkegLY by JodiFOSSter@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T23:32:49Z
       
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       @kev restart now to finish installing updates!
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DqfH95rza6si3vqS by joeligj12@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T23:48:49Z
       
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       @JodiFOSSter @kev yeah, Bluetooth stuff works, this happened a year and a half ago, so I pretty much gave up on a fix
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DrAFEp0ozfwTVcKu by g@nerdculture.de
       2021-05-13T23:54:08Z
       
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       @kev Windows Updates. Sometimes it doesn't see any updates (when I know they exist), it for some reason can't download or install an update, or it takes 10 reboots to get all the updates.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DrZwgYc4iDvnjlEO by rcode3@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-13T23:58:54Z
       
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       @kev Microsoft
       
 (DIR) Post #A7Dt8HULsF08Fcxqy0 by wholesomedonut@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T00:16:19Z
       
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       @kev Unstable? Horrid process management and a 20+ year-old registry system.Frustrating? It's basically the go-to, A1 requirement for a lot of government compliance stuff because it's all that the govt's own tools are developed for that people outside the Fed have to work with... or get fined/arrested/shut down.Makes interfacing with them REQUIRE Win10... don't even get me started on legacy compatibility layers. That's a dark, dirty place indeed.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DuBIEne2i7Ohgqrw by surendrajat@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T00:27:58Z
       
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       @kev someone did it already https://github.com/nbeaver/why-linux-is-better
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DxCoBEfVpEcLRAPI by telroy@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T01:01:47Z
       
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       @kev Automatic updates that force you to shutdown your PC.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DxOrlZA5jzDLBEFE by telroy@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T01:04:08Z
       
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       @kev- Automatic updates that force you to shutdown your PC.- Bloat. Who needs Candy Crush on a newly installed system?!
       
 (DIR) Post #A7DxrMtp0FGTsddGvw by nathand@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T01:09:15Z
       
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       @kev Most people use it wrong or don't fully know how to use it? I mean, are we seriously saying that things like audio editing, video editing and configuring UI is *easier* on Linux?I mean, that's a deep pull of the Kool Aid.Windows is far from perfect. No giant, old code base is. The fact that I can still run stuff from ancient times with minimal issues is actually near miraculous. I can't even get old games to work on Linux without the whole GCC toolchain from that era in a jailed chroot.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7Dy12Oi5Ct7Btgtk0 by Wesleyll25@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T01:10:19Z
       
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       @kev Windows Update. This thing broke my system so many times that I got sick of it and started using GNU/Linux as my main OS
       
 (DIR) Post #A7E0cGn7jJrgSHzXaS by derp@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T01:40:07Z
       
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       @kev it is not transparent for the user. In pursuit of the so-called "user friendliness"  that was trumpeted by marketing guys, it ended hiding EVERYTHING that happens under the hood. No relevant logging, no relevant verbose text messages to stdout, just nothing. Casually using Windows after many years of Linux only makes me feel like I have cataracts. And Android is just the same.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7E22S6IPAb30u0Xyq by chrism@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T01:56:01Z
       
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       @kev I posted something similar on my blog recently. One thing that’s really annoying is the constant nag to use their cloud. I don’t want OneDrive. And I don’t want ads in a commercial OS. And why do most updates require a reboot? Or multiple reboots?  Microsoft and Apple appear to believe it’s their computer, not mine. That’s unacceptable to me.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7E4BRswm5Y0rPBK0O by JodiFOSSter@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T02:20:18Z
       
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       @joeligj12 @kev "never give up!  trust your instincts!"-lessons from starfox64
       
 (DIR) Post #A7E51C8SZq5t4V70ZE by gortbrown@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T02:29:24Z
       
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       @kev I think it's ridiculous that Linux comes with the software to decompress just about any archive file (.zip, .7z, .rar, etc.) but to decompress anything other than a zip file on Windows, you need to download separate software. You'd think an OS that's been around for over 35 years and has so much market share would be capable of doing that out of the box.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7E71s8Ocr4dEmX6f2 by IslandUsurper@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T02:52:01Z
       
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       @kev the ubiquitous, mandatory updates. And you’re going to have to reboot at some point, so you’ll get the update then whether you like it or not.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7E897zg9vWKPDTmEK by fossil@mas.to
       2021-05-14T03:04:32Z
       
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       @kev Too much of the Win10 UI is blinding white with not enough visual clues as to structure and function.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7E8X8xMEROwLCqRpw by hund@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T03:08:52Z
       
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       @kev The user.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7E8YGRBu1GPpiKkPw by hyde@lazybear.social
       2021-05-14T03:09:14Z
       
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       @kevI tried a VM recently for some mobile flashing tool and what pissed me off was ... "Updating 1 package... Don't turn off " and it stayed like this until ... I pushed that power off button
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ECus1RFBrGaTK5eC by danielfgom@mastodon.social
       2021-05-14T03:57:57Z
       
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       @kev Tbh I find Windows quite stable overall and drivers/software easy to install. However all it takes is 1 bad Windows update to mess up your system. I've worked in IT for a number of years and Windows Updates more often than not are to blame for issues. Windows also has high system requirements to run properly. And malware/viruses are another issue. Any Windows machine not running AV will end up with viruses in the hands of the average user.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EE7OqD9LavnobsCe by ncmpcpp@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T04:11:20Z
       
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       @kev Version management is horrible, I have a working laptop with windows and there's 10 different versions of C++, and I cannot uninstall any of those because I have no idea which version is being used by which program or if its safe to uninstall.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EHlLoU7t7HrEXnwu by lxzio@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T04:52:18Z
       
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       @kev Not being POSIX compliant . Came to linux to test few *nix only application . Now i cannot go back to windows
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EIdAexoLHsu2kots by iotshark@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T05:02:02Z
       
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       @kev Would say that vanilla Ubuntu starts to be like Windows. ... Imagine you come down to you car one day, and the key holes aren't in the doors anymore. The steering wheel and the seats are gone. ... This is everyday in Windows and Since 2018 also Ubuntu.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EJc8XCKL5LyaBzai by friend@linuxrocks.online
       2021-05-14T05:12:57Z
       
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       @kev No way to change keyboard shortcuts is a big one for me.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EJfInccQgOgHNsP2 by RyuKurisu@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T05:13:37Z
       
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       @kev @textovervideo I don't have that with software coming from Chocolatey 🤔 (or I/management disabled that nonsense straightaway).
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EKOL1JD0aYbFGEMa by dracula_@mastodon.social
       2021-05-14T05:21:46Z
       
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       @kev In Linux you can hold down right click and release on the context menu option you want to select. Windows requires clicking twice.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ELBYrEY9yTho1HNo by CodingOtaku@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T05:30:35Z
       
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       @kev Cortana, you can't even use default start menu search if you completely remove the Cortana assistant. There is no reason to make search depending on it.On a related note, UNIX philosophy (Do One Thing And Do It Well) is non existent.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EN3jF0GEI3V6WxJw by celia@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T05:51:38Z
       
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       @kev Horrible font rendering.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ENHgbarBKPNeki7k by Pa6l0@mastodon.online
       2021-05-14T05:54:07Z
       
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       @kev the system has more control over the oc than you in oermissions. also windows tracks users all over the os.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ENNkIo1ZiEaGr12e by Crocmagnon@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T05:55:13Z
       
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       @kevPreinstalled crapLicense costCommand line & command line tools(Lack of) proper developer toolsRegistry vs files for everythingPrivacy concerns (hardcore telemetry, etc)
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EPAg0srMADQRMp0q by kev@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T06:15:20Z
       
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       @textovervideo haha I mean, we all know what the fix for that is.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EPJdFGWKRHRlMdyy by kev@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T06:16:56Z
       
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       @pixelherodev that’s a really interesting perspective. Could you elaborate on why it’s so tight between Ubuntu and Windows please?
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EPVlZTOHQckCbOsq by kev@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T06:19:05Z
       
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       @surendrajat oh this is excellent, thank you!
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EPmuyNgjy6pHQnmy by kev@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T06:22:12Z
       
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       @gortbrown ha! That’s a good one! Also, why no tabs in explorer??
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EPq5iwAnfX2QikZE by kev@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T06:22:46Z
       
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       @hund how so?
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EQ2Jo7dWCsC0yasy by kev@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T06:25:01Z
       
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       @celia could you elaborate please, Ru?
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EQ4Mdu4AUfZ6Aj5c by surendrajat@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T06:25:02Z
       
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       @kev you're welcome :)
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EQ7CWY8xBh3G5L3w by kev@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T06:25:53Z
       
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       WOW! So much feedback. Thanks everyone!!
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EQS5B2ecRwLYywpU by bjoerns@social.tchncs.de
       2021-05-14T06:29:35Z
       
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       @kev Windows Updates. Frustrating because they always happen when they are not supposed to. Annoying because after every major upgrade the want to force you into ab MS Live Account and often they ruin your system.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ER3ZiO4u0FlySOSO by normandy@biribiri.dev
       2021-05-14T06:36:35.736671Z
       
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       @kev - Updates breaking stuff- Automatic updates without any real way to stop them (which makes the first point even worse)- Trying to push you into using a Microsoft account (you have to disconnect your network during setup to make a local account)- Tries to push you to use their music player/web browser/etc.- Slow on anything made before 2011- Probably more ecosystem-related, but a lot of apps there like to get in your way
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ERYsWoBH3768y3O4 by pixelherodev@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T06:42:04Z
       
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       @kev  Both have atrocious UI/UX,  and appear to be designed under the assumption that pretty icons is all that's needed for a good UI. Security of both is a *joke*. Both are exceedingly bloated.If I'm on either one, I'll spend 99% of my time in SSH or drawterm, so why do I care what OS the host happens to be running?
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ERbCsPUrtImqBL3A by frox@tooting.ch
       2021-05-14T06:42:32Z
       
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       @kev no consistent keyboard shortcut for closing a window, sometimes ctrl-w or Q and other times alt-f4.No dependency management, no proper repository.First time update needed to reboot my machine I didn't notice a notification. It closed everything I had open, rebooted, tried to restore the apps I had open and spewed a bunch of error messages doing so.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ERsEBhsJBlmCK968 by jrballesteros05@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T06:45:34Z
       
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       @kev I cannot be objective. I haven't used windows since 2008, but anytime I have to use something from Microsoft I get sick and that's doesn't allow me to be objective. Anytime I use Windows:- I have the feeling of Insecurity, despite windows has improved a lot and now by default. Now, Windows could be considered the same or even more secure than Linux by default. - Fucking updates, especially when something goes wrong are a pain. - I have the feeling everything goes slow. - M$ spyware.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ESEZkgNf6p1kL8Ou by lig@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T06:49:38Z
       
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       @kev cannot wait to see the result of this effort;)
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EU2nzTodGdcYmCTg by Mehrad@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T07:09:54Z
       
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       @kev @person I have to use it to finish a manuscript that **must be submitted in Word format with journal’s template**, which boils my blood, and during this past two weeks it has been pain over pain over pain.The OS is super laggy compared to Manjaro KDE on the same Thinkpad laptop (from boot time to opening Word takes about 12 minutes), there is no way to configure keyboard shortcuts and remap them for productivity, after each update (so far 3 times) demands rebooting.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EUcV3ZgmT7K6iDbM by dusansimic@mastodon.technology
       2021-05-14T07:16:21Z
       
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       @kev two words, package management. On Linux, pms make it soooo east to handle packages and upgrades, especially on servers. Put a packamanager into the base os and suddenly you don't need whole collections of programs to manage the system rather just a few commands or a simple shell script (not even bash). This is more server/technical user oriented opinion but that's basically why I use Linux. If Windows had that and was easy to deal with, I might've even used Windows.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EVFDoLk1vF8B3SiG by hund@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T07:23:18Z
       
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       @kev Don't get me wrong, Windows is a bad OS in so many ways, but more often than not it's the users fault that something goes wrong. :)
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EX63eyJX04wvQVbE by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T07:44:03Z
       
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       @kev Windows is designed to make older hardware which is working flawlessly slower in order to make people think they have to buy new hardware. This is bad for the user and for the environment.And of course, it's proprietary software. So Windows should be considered malware.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EXWvqxRmUoYXqba4 by stardot@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T07:48:57Z
       
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       @kev I dislike the Windows norm that everything you install just assumes you want it to start it at boot
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EcZnX9KobTORlgp6 by oloke@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T08:44:57Z
       
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       @kev Here are a few positions:- The choice of file system (or lack of it) - NTFS is now over 20 years old and it's horribly written as of today's standards comparing it to something like ZFS, btrfs or ext4.- Command line - it is quite nice right now but for years it was really a pain to use it without proper autocompletion or saved history.- Annoying forced MS software - OneDrive by default, changing default browser from Edge to something else, ...
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EdLJtgpF5xNSyHxo by oloke@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T08:54:08Z
       
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       @kev - C/C++ development on Linux/BSD is just so much easier (but probably I just can't use VS properly).- Resource usage- Lack of customizabilityBut anyway Windows 10 has awesome backwards compatibility, really nice task manager and Windows Defender which was always very painful for me as a developer and also now you can't disable it, but potentially it can save from malware someone with no AV software. Now it's also quite sophisticated built-in antivirus.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EeddcAM66fhF4c2y by evilroda@wandering.shop
       2021-05-14T09:08:35Z
       
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       @kev Before I switched to Linux, my Windows 8.1 laptop had an update which, looking back, appeared to be an unauthorized (and unwelcome) attempt to upgrade to Windows 10. The update failed, and everything got deleted except what was in the C:\ directory. It even reverted to plain Windows 8. I didn't even update it after that. Months later, I put Ubuntu 16.04 on it and haven't looked back.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EkyzlHo8KCBsuGAK by NickKaramoff@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T10:19:41Z
       
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       @kev when installing apps, it creates an incredible amount of files scattered across the whole system. Every app uses a different location 🙄
       
 (DIR) Post #A7EpRw2f7GKyrv5a2i by redstarfish@social.linux.pizza
       2021-05-14T11:09:53Z
       
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       @kev Windows is proprietary software, and GNU/Linux is free/libre software.This is the primary injustice with Windows.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7F6obTJSa7Ux7wviq by jd_d@hostux.social
       2021-05-14T14:24:12Z
       
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       @kev you might find some points here :https://sebsauvage.net/wiki/doku.php?id=microsofttranslation : https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://sebsauvage.net/wiki/doku.php?id=microsoft
       
 (DIR) Post #A7F9EtR1Uosg6MXfoe by zash@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T14:51:01Z
       
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       @kevBack in the XP days I remember various small but annoying behaviors, popups, illogical places for settings, with no way to fix them myself.Linux, while annoying too sometimes, lets me fix it if I really want.Used Windows 10 for work last year, as annoying as I remembered, more telemetry, worse performance.Also annoying is the lack of Linux support in login for online tax declaration and other services.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7FY765T4KaRsaq5gW by zoot@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-14T19:30:00Z
       
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       @kev I never even got time to reply so, better late than never, I'll keep my reply/feedback short and sweet....dll😉
       
 (DIR) Post #A7Fjbaff1SxIutVjzE by jeang3nie@social.linux.pizza
       2021-05-14T21:38:57Z
       
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       @kevNo source code, can't fix anything or learn from it. Ignores open standards and file formats by default. Not really usable on anything outside x86.Assumes you must subscribe to a paid virus protection plan in order to safely use your own computer.Painful to port software to that easily compiles on anything posix-ey.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7FoW2zVJecKmby7Yu by Pa6l0@mastodon.online
       2021-05-14T22:34:05Z
       
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       @kev the system has more control over the os than you. also windows tracks users all over the os.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7GFWRyv6D1B3J710a by bigblen@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2021-05-15T03:36:27Z
       
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       @kev I've just installed (throwaway instance). It wants my email, my date of birth, perhaps my phone number, creation of a microsoft account, a product key, ....
       
 (DIR) Post #A7H3U9dFLZBTGs4bYm by TheFreePenguin@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-15T12:56:28Z
       
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       @kev
       
 (DIR) Post #A7H3lqwfYvXSWmb6dU by TheFreePenguin@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-15T12:59:41Z
       
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       @kev :windows: HEY! Update your computer!User: What if I don't want to?:windows: ...* 3 hrs later *:windows: HEY! Update time!User: Be quiet, I'm working right now!(this can also apply to :lubuntu: Lubuntu tho)
       
 (DIR) Post #A7HSzJvDdYSX12RBpI by gruffymax@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-15T17:42:08Z
       
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       @kevI made the switch from W10 to Ubuntu whilst learning C at uni. The compilers etc on linux are far easier to use than the MS stuff. I'm now on Arcolinux and have to use W10 to access lectures on Webex (don't...just don't) and although I don't hate it, I just get an urge to boot back into Linux. I find W10 bloated and slow. The update system is infuriating. I've missed lectures while windows restarts and updates.I will never use W10 as my main OS all the time I can run  Linux.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7IIyZeeqtpb8Zem2K by lionirdeadman@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-16T03:24:40Z
       
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       @kev For me, the workflow of Windows is just really annoying but I'm also very used to the GNOME workflow so I might be biased.I also wish that Windows try to containerize/sandbox applications especially considering the "grab random executables on the internet" model of application distribution.Otherwise, the usual removed freedoms and privacy.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7IJBryg2VS1jHMOdk by PrinceAlarming@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-16T03:27:07Z
       
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       @kev 1 ) when updating winblows (yep I spealt it right) it takes forever to reboot.2) After updating winblows doesn't run properly sometimes 3) After an update other apps don't run properly sometimes Just to name a few...
       
 (DIR) Post #A7JMjWlDvMBinBlhBI by Karl_Deputter@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-16T15:41:00Z
       
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       @kev I second most of the other comments, but I'ld like to add one more thing... Linux equals freedom of choice. Windows embodies the exact opposite.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7JRxDiI2PURXjkENs by thomas@metalhead.club
       2021-05-16T16:39:59Z
       
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       @kev- Inconsistent Font sizes / scaling (although that has been improved in the last year)- No way to update all your apps at once. Every application does its own update thing with funny install WIZARDS- Most annoying: Windows Explorer crashes. For no obvious reason. Explorer exe does not respond and takes the hole system with it.- Cannot use "stay in foreground" functionality on windows.- Absolutely useless error messages. You always need to guess what's wrong.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7JSgGYcJKIvOXhRZY by adlerweb@social.adlerweb.info
       2021-05-16T16:48:06Z
       
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       @kev Too much focus on non-power-users. It's one thing to hide error messages from plain view, but in most cases there just is no way to get any usable info for debugging. Error messages are mostly useless, even the task manager isn't much help if half of the processes are hidden or called svchost. Combine this with poor stability and a update method missing quality and reproducibility. As such on mist installations errors aren't fixed but just worked around.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7JSnXafNev6FV7wsi by gom@chaos.social
       2021-05-16T16:49:28Z
       
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       @kevWindows Event Locker... messages are almost non descriptive and error codes are long, undocumented hex numbers. Sometimes it's just impossible to know what went wrong.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7JVacNEaJLdBMNFHU by andredo@chaos.social
       2021-05-16T17:20:43Z
       
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       @kev the worst thing is that I have to search on multiple places to configure stuff.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7JYwKMSXEbtYD3SzI by pharham@toot.cafe
       2021-05-16T17:58:17Z
       
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       @kev Things are bloated/complicated. There are  two UIs for uninstalling apps or, for example, managing your wifi. One is the new win10 UI and the other one is similar to the one found in the older versions of Windows which is a classic window with menus offering more advance settings, but you need to spend time and find it!
       
 (DIR) Post #A7JaozbRW1Jl3Eh42C by simon@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-16T18:19:24Z
       
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       @kev installed it a few months ago to try out some audio software. I/o activity light was constantly thrashing, even after turning off indexing and obvious telemetry. Update process ultimately failed to update to 2004 edition with an unknown error. Tried all the suggestions. Thirdly, the constant notifications wore me out. Driver files were enormous. Installing a few apps took a couple of evenings at least ,maybe more. Also i had to create an online account to download an app from the MS store.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7JcCXuIEvwM3eJ0nQ by jvalleroy@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-16T18:34:51Z
       
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       @kev Applications that are constantly stealing focus.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7JekECODj8ygjxVFg by Twelve@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-16T19:03:20Z
       
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       @kevVery unstable. Chrashes usuly least ones every time i try to use it and sometimes to restet it to fix thw chrash i have to cut of the power.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7JfN0lG7BS0J2lIMS by lopeztel@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-16T19:10:20Z
       
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       @kev Probably a big one and already mentioned: Having to restart after every single update?
       
 (DIR) Post #A7JkOSLjWkhFvjKZTU by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2021-05-16T20:06:31Z
       
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       @kev Here's a book on the topic: https://web.archive.org/web/20051013072349/http://www.vanwensveen.nl/rants/microsoft/IhateMS_1.html A superb read.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7JsJnWKBckZm9Zfo8 by DjBRINE1@pony.social
       2021-05-16T21:35:20Z
       
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       @kev Literally system making a huge disk usage or CPU usage out of the blue without you being able to diagnose the reason. (Yes, the system process took most of resources, no we can't explain why, bear with it). Windows is much less flexible, i tend to miss my shortcuts or design choices i made myself in Linux
       
 (DIR) Post #A7KXMDh9w85DefuqRM by FrankyFire@metalhead.club
       2021-05-17T05:15:13Z
       
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       @kev since windows 10, the search has become incredibly slow, as they integrated cortana and web searches. But they don't show offline results first. Takes lots of patience to search for an app.You can tune that behavior, but that brings me to another downside: you have to do that on any fresh install. On Linux I can just copy my settings from the home folder on any new install and I'm set and done.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7MzAXgUyd4VCzkMOu by softwareAnarchist@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-18T09:36:01Z
       
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       @kev Don't need to restart for every update
       
 (DIR) Post #A7Rgyst9UJYi71kx5U by brandon@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-20T16:06:14Z
       
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       @textovervideo @kev 🤔 Wow, I've legitimately never seen this one 🤔 Is this maybe from WinRT or Windows 10X?
       
 (DIR) Post #A7RhBWUo3RvKQYOZzE by brandon@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-20T16:08:31Z
       
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       @iron_bug @kev Not sure what you're referring to about not being able to load or unload drivers? You can install and uninstall drivers at ease, even "remove" a device until next boot. I'm sure there's some command that allows you to blacklist a device too
       
 (DIR) Post #A7RhT4vLIzcY7vB8Ou by brandon@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-20T16:11:43Z
       
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       @unicornfarts @kev Nah it's just a network of config files accross the entirety of your file system.Wait, was that one in ~/.config? Or was it in /etc? Oh, that one's in /opt/transsmission-daemon/etc/transmission-daemon/config? CRAP, this one was in /etc/systemctl.d/ not /etc/sysconfigI really wish MS would just put all the settings in one place though instead of having the Settings app + Control Panel
       
 (DIR) Post #A7Ri4XNIULfp527FLc by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
       2021-05-20T16:18:22Z
       
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       on running system. load, reload with other params, remove, install. whatever.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7RiJ0FruRiGhkXTns by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
       2021-05-20T16:20:32Z
       
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       I just wrote drivers and drivers development on windoze is a PAIN. this is absolutely twisted process and system debug there is terrible. on Linux this is easy and pleasant way. so I shifted to Linux many years ago and since I have never even seen Windoze and I am happy.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7SPB4PwqT3HKKiXUO by textovervideo@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-21T00:21:27Z
       
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       @brandon @kev this is from Windows 10. I actually thought most people encountered the "The app you're trying to install isn't a verified app from the Store" because it occurs frequently when installing FOSS software.
       
 (DIR) Post #A7ScCZ0psVi9uR0ubw by brandon@fosstodon.org
       2021-05-21T02:47:23Z
       
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       @textovervideo @kev I installed windirstat and Greenshot with no message such as this