Post A6fzf0SeCDL7LdW97Q by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
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(DIR) Post #A6e5TKWNztiHUvA64m by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T17:46:55Z
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THREAD for @OneLargeToe, who wrote:"If nothing comes of this audit, I'm going to be f'ing pissed."Some thoughts on that. When SCOTUS refused to hear a key case (for lack of standing) I was surprised but also very slow to read much into it.Didn't accept it on face value, nor did I read anything into it beyond the fact that it happened. It went onto a "We'll See" shelf: Cause yet to be determined, conclusions yet to be drawn.
(DIR) Post #A6e5ZWlDPBk1C73MVE by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T17:48:03Z
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What I TENTATIVELY concluded was that a conscious decision MIGHT have been made not to interfere in an area where STATE LEGISLATURES (READ = We The People of each State) had full plenary power.That, I thought, was a possible judicial RATIONALE for not hearing, which has nothing to do with any ulterior motives on their parts which MIGHT have been in play. Article II Section 1, USC reads, "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct..."
(DIR) Post #A6e5jxIXauEyOXc68O by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T17:49:56Z
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So EVERY THING leading up to (and following) the appointment of Electors is within their purview. FURTHERMORE - if there is foul play (i.e., Electors appointed in a manner in which they DID NOT DIRECT), the State legislature, IN THEORY, has the power and authority to both investigate AND DE-CERTIFY - post facto.
(DIR) Post #A6e5oVTGTwNVXSne08 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T17:50:45Z
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ONE MORE POSSIBLE JUDICIAL RATIONALEIF A LEGISLATURE DID NOT ACT, that COULD - again in theory - be viewed as their tacit acceptance of (implied consent for) whatever happened. Meaning that it's ALL on the State legislatures. Action OR failure to act is all seen as an exercise of their plenary power and therefore NON-JUSTICIABLE. IF, broadly speaking, that is/was the rationale, we now have an interesting dynamic at play in Maricopa.
(DIR) Post #A6e5tJV0Q8pxr9uF5U by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T17:51:38Z
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The Democrat plaintiffs are looking to throw monkey wrenches into gears and sludge into the path of a potentially election-overturning juggernaut.Arizona Senate Republicans very wisely and publicly stated that they were only defending the accuracy of the November elections; that their actions were only to "dispel concerns that the results were inaccurate."
(DIR) Post #A6e5x5hVfFsUDhYX44 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T17:52:18Z
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“Maricopa County elections were administered with integrity throughout 2020. That’s a fact. Multiple audits to date have proved as much, and multiple court rulings have concurred,” Chairman Jack Sellers said in a statement.“It’s also true that a significant number of voters want the additional assurance that a full forensic audit of tabulation equipment might bring, especially given all the misinformation that spread following the November 3 election,” Sellers said."https://www.theepochtimes.com/arizona-senate-passes-bill-strengthening-its-investigative-powers-amid-maricopa-county-vote-audit-dispute_3703145.html
(DIR) Post #A6e656i3nUcvfKdUQK by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T17:53:45Z
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The AZ Legislature's ducks are lined up. They have FULL INVESTIGATIVE AUTHORITY, without regard to other laws, retroactive to December 31st, 2019.I FULLY ANTICIPATE another JUDICIAL CLOWN SHOW, given what's at stake now in this ALL-IMPORTANT AUDIT.And it doesn't matter to me what happens, as it's ALL downside for the left.Delaying, crippling, stopping the audit will only REINFORCE what most ALREADY KNOW OR STRONGLY SUSPECT.
(DIR) Post #A6e68yv8hNh0fObK88 by selah18@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T17:54:27Z
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@StevenDouglas By virtue of “throwing monkey wrenches,” they’re making a complete spectacle and circus, which on face value, promotes an air of guilt/something to hide...so it’s all good in the SCHEME of things
(DIR) Post #A6e6A0jfR6XmaLj48O by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T17:54:39Z
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My question, assuming they get it jammed by judicial interference, and assuming further that it goes to SCOTUS (ON APPEAL BY THE AZ LEGISLATURE), will they hear it?IF they do, the outcome SEEMS clear enough to me: Non-justiciable by lower courts, State Legislature has the power - judgment vacated/remanded/overturned/whatever.That's IF the rationale is as I suspect.
(DIR) Post #A6e6LtPyT7hhMhBFGC by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T17:56:47Z
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So what if the ghouls succeed in shutting down the audit?NOT HAPPENING in my mind, but WHAT IF THEY DID?Do you think others in other states would just tuck tail and give up?FAT F****G CHANCE! Crapping on the AZ audit would only add insult to already serious injury.Across the entire country. The Trump base in ALL other states would be JUST as incentivized, IF NOT MORE, to see to it that it didn't happen in their state.And we might even see audits in states NOT in controversy.
(DIR) Post #A6e6RRUpC5yyVM5ya0 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T17:57:48Z
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That's my wild-ass guessing based on loads of variables which can't be predicted.And I'm sticking to it. With ZERO worries.WE WILL WIN.END
(DIR) Post #A6e6aoG1wAMthidrgO by Klang@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T17:59:30Z
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@StevenDouglas mind melding. I'm right there with you, buddy.
(DIR) Post #A6e6k2kHRORDFBC6FM by Annasmom22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:01:09Z
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@StevenDouglas Great thread👍🇺🇸
(DIR) Post #A6e7qMsDcNkFMTUFiy by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:13:30Z
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@pamby1 @StevenDouglas I'd like to see California audited. I'm pretty sure it turned red here.
(DIR) Post #A6e7qxdGwum3MpmL44 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:13:37Z
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@SuperSleuth Ex-effing-zactly. And who among these would have diagrammed it in the most minute detail?(Hat tip @SwordOfLogic)
(DIR) Post #A6e89ONAGi2XVs2796 by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:16:57Z
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@pamby1 @StevenDouglas I'm in the suburbs of Los Angeles, and I saw maybe one Biden bumper sticker and no signs. And that's driving around the leftist areas!!
(DIR) Post #A6e8KmbmV7DzreIkwi by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:19:00Z
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@pamby1 @StevenDouglas Yes! We had a rally in Beverly Hills every weekend and thousands of people were showing up. Of all places!
(DIR) Post #A6e8dsldpGckT61LhA by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:22:27Z
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@pamby1 @StevenDouglas Me too!! I just knew he was bound to win. Heck, I knew the first time :)
(DIR) Post #A6e8p9tySdcgnMINEG by Milllathefiend@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:24:29Z
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@StevenDouglas https://www.thepostemail.com/2020/11/08/congress-has-affirmed-state-legislatures-unilateral-authority-to-void-elections-at-midnight-after-election-day/
(DIR) Post #A6e8w4A4Cao11D7GjY by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:25:45Z
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ADDENDUM:And the reason why I selected this image for my initial post.I STRONGLY, STRONGLY SUSPECT that SCOTUS has been signaling to EVERYONE that there will never be another Bush v. Gore. They WILL NOT rule against anything involving the PLENARY POWER of another branch.AZ Senate could pick Sam the Butcher and Alice the Maid, who could BURN BALLOTS in front of everyone and make a mess of everything - and SCOTUS wouldn't touch it. Because it is AS THE LEGISLATURE DIRECTED.
(DIR) Post #A6e9LJTKPl6nk9AFX6 by wziminer@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:30:18Z
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@StevenDouglas This is the most sensible explanation I have seen so far. Thank you for the thread.
(DIR) Post #A6e9eYDzmwhh04ALlQ by Samson207@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:33:47Z
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@StevenDouglas I read yesterday that Harrisburg, PA has been doing an audit. Quietly, it made me wonder if others have been inspired by the fight in AZ to prove one way or the other the truth of this presidential election. It's going to be interesting.
(DIR) Post #A6eAf05MIqTBMXu7s0 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:45:04Z
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@Fidelio2 If I'm replying to a specific comment made I'll reply to that post, wherever it is in the thread. That's so that if someone clicks on my response, the post I'm responding to will be right above it.Otherwise I'll reply to the LAST post in the thread, as you did here. And thank you for your comments.
(DIR) Post #A6eAxmeiSUNfDHOnaK by Phokencougie@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:48:28Z
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@StevenDouglas 🤭
(DIR) Post #A6eBj16cYET5diyQaW by MattNereim@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:57:00Z
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@StevenDouglas Nice thread - totally agree!
(DIR) Post #A6eBoRnSk4NnrtbO0u by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T18:57:57Z
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@Julie No, I "THINK" that DJT wanted the win. That he really was disappointed by failures along the way - including (possibly) Pence's refusal to SEND IT BACK TO THE STATE LEGISLATURES.Because that would have been consistent with the rationale that I'm imputing to SCOTUS.There are many things attributed to Trump as deliberate (and brilliant) on his part. I see the brilliance in how he capitalizes on all of it. AS IF it couldn't be better if he willed it that way himself.
(DIR) Post #A6eCeu4arAMqckczCq by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T19:07:27Z
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@Julie There is ONE reason why *I* think SCOTUS should have gotten involved, and that's the Catch-22 question of whether the State Legislature ITSELF was legitimately constituted. That is the ONE area I can think of where they could make an exception - AT THE VERY LEAST making a finding after hearing evidence - then STRONGLY RECOMMENDING that the State legislature act on that information.
(DIR) Post #A6eDNr3CwMFIHWPjTk by Zemeliko@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T19:15:35Z
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@StevenDouglas Superb thread, my friend.You have a special talent of taking that foggy, amoebic feeling that many of us have, and put it into words that recover the essence and explaining to us all what we didn't know that we know (I hope this makes sense to you 🙂)I'm grateful for following you here on QV. It was one of my best decisions since joining the forum.
(DIR) Post #A6eDSgECbdhWACrEcy by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T19:16:27Z
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@Zemeliko Made perfect sense, and thank you.
(DIR) Post #A6eDTkWw61tznQ87zU by sandman4224@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T19:16:38Z
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@StevenDouglas @Julie It is very rational that Trump was well prepared but not Teflon and there were losses along the way. That would be realistic but he is the one man who can pull off the seemingly impossible. Much like the three hole batter in baseball, your best hitter in the clutch. I trust that God put him in this position for a reason. My faith is secured.
(DIR) Post #A6eDkZQGeBIgGm21tw by Mongo3804@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T19:19:41Z
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@StevenDouglas Thank you sir for the time spent putting this thread together. Quodverum has became the college I never went too thanks to fine folks such as yourself. So thankful to Saul and crew for building this place and the fine folks that are here.
(DIR) Post #A6eDsvHfFeCmO5zTPM by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T19:21:12Z
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@sandman4224 @Julie Trump is the Michael Jordan of business and politics. And then some. Border wall, major legislation, vaccine, you name it: Trump loses battles (UNAVOIDABLE AND EXPECTED) as he PERSISTS and finds ways to win each war.
(DIR) Post #A6eEoChf9vwYv2SsQy by bonmarche946@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T19:31:33Z
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@StevenDouglas Excellent thread! I’m with you! 🇺🇸🙏🏻
(DIR) Post #A6eG8F99srwwF8RePA by KittyDugre@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T19:46:23Z
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@StevenDouglas I love you Steven! As always, from your lips to God's ears.
(DIR) Post #A6eGcfLR2qOkBMh5No by KittyDugre@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T19:51:52Z
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@StevenDouglas @SuperSleuth @SwordOfLogic "Ex-effing-zactly" my new catch phrase!!!!!
(DIR) Post #A6eGiPqbZmrNr810OO by KittyDugre@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T19:52:55Z
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@Lisa22 @pamby1 @StevenDouglas I also believe that as well. It was called way too soon.
(DIR) Post #A6eHIx7bLDHLTkO3qS by Momma_Voke@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T19:59:31Z
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@StevenDouglas Great thread. I agree with you. Zero worries indeed.
(DIR) Post #A6eJ471ESdbxjtSXYG by chumbucket@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T20:19:15Z
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@Lisa22 @pamby1 @StevenDouglas Same here. I'm in the San Fernando Valley and saw very few Biden signs but MANY trucks fully equipped with TRUMP/Thin Blue Line flags. Hell I even drove down Ventura blvd in a Trump train myself, there were more than a few of those organized around election time. Not to mention the "Open California rallies" which were loaded with hundreds of Trump supporters. CA got scammed HARD.
(DIR) Post #A6eO5O0pGTPkVIhDn6 by OneRandomGuy@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T21:15:30Z
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@StevenDouglas What about the cases where the executive branch and or courts made the rule changes without the consent of the state legistatures?
(DIR) Post #A6eO6Q13Ihch0XIJ1s by OneRandomGuy@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T21:15:41Z
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@StevenDouglas What about the cases where the executive branch and or courts made the rule changes without the consent of the state legislatures?
(DIR) Post #A6eRuOEiUVRXpWCnTs by AmareVita@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-26T21:58:20Z
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@StevenDouglas @OneLargeToeWild speculation here, but If there is "devolution" as some here have posited, would SCOTUS have been advised and would that possibly be a contributing factor for their previous rulings?
(DIR) Post #A6ehyg6JbzNNf1LIDA by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T00:58:22Z
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@OneLargeToe you said: I think I might now be a fan of "turnabout is fair play"...From your lips to Mitch McConnell's mouth to Harry Reid's ears.@pamby1
(DIR) Post #A6eikjhBY9wEi2VIlk by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T01:07:04Z
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@mainstem @OneRandomGuy The need/desire to see high level perp walks is something we have zero control over and I can't even address. It's almost like the banks that won't prosecute employees who steal because they don't it made public that it even happened.I can only say lucky for all of them that that magic wand is not in my hand.What I'm sensing is that all of this can, AND MUST, be addressed by the State legislatures and at the local levels. We have swamps of our own to drain.
(DIR) Post #A6eiyupkw253JAH3fE by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T01:09:38Z
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@AmareVita @OneLargeToe I consider it a DISTINCT possibility, regardless "who's issue" it ultimately is. And the rationale I'm imputing to SCOTUS would fit both that scenario/narrative AND the Pelosi/Pence unconstitutional count in the absence of the dismissed quorum.
(DIR) Post #A6eodFe5TZz7D0rwbg by Annasmom22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T02:12:56Z
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@StevenDouglas @sandman4224 @Julie When he played I didn’t like him-he always won! Now I truly miss him!!
(DIR) Post #A6eoffoZ9RUgwwvQlU by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T02:13:23Z
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@Annasmom22 @Samson207 I expected (and still do) that controlled "preemptive" audits would happen. In the spirit of "We already did one, no need to bother these good folk with another!"And it won't work.
(DIR) Post #A6etbPqR5IJU25aaQq by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T03:08:37Z
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@DougAdamavich @pamby1 @StevenDouglas I am pretty sure!!
(DIR) Post #A6eteXzLGMi09tFRFQ by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T03:09:12Z
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@chumbucket @pamby1 @StevenDouglas I've heard we got scammed when Gavin Newsom got elected as well!!
(DIR) Post #A6ewuO2uIR9zon9zBQ by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T03:45:41Z
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@DougAdamavich @pamby1 @StevenDouglas Very cool!!!
(DIR) Post #A6fz19YuwH87zWRlKa by Linnie@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T15:44:01Z
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@DougAdamavich @StevenDouglas I know several-from AZ too. One wrote-in Abraham Lincoln. I asked why?Because he’s just not *Presidential enough.* As Thomas Wictor said: They like losing with honor.Effin losers-all of them!!I
(DIR) Post #A6fzf0SeCDL7LdW97Q by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T15:51:14Z
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@Linnie @DougAdamavich I see most of them as anti-boat-rockers. The worst kind of conservatives in many ways, as they are NOT listeners and do NOT have their fingers on the pulses of their constituencies. I think most of the nutless ones saw Trump as dangerous to the party and the "delicate balance of power".Too volatile, gonna get us all in deep shit if he's not careful. As if we weren't already in the deepest shit for being too careful.
(DIR) Post #A6g0WNrttmgpIBmXNw by Linnie@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T16:00:53Z
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@StevenDouglas Great comment, Steven. You nailed it. They Just can’t think outside the box at all. Yep, a few said they just *knew* he was going to get us into another war. I mentioned ALL the peace he fostered in the ME and with Israel. They Didn’t care. I was furious.
(DIR) Post #A6g0l3EKufkRd0Gn3Y by Linnie@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T16:03:32Z
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@DougAdamavich True statement Doug. C. Rigidity. Never knew that term until Thomas explained. These types of *conservatives* are (to me) in the same category as the usual RINO politicians: worthless
(DIR) Post #A6g19T3MYUYwfOmP9E by Linnie@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T16:07:55Z
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@DougAdamavich I will admit that I walked into that booth (in 2016), and reluctantly voted for Trump. Cruz was my man. But...I watched what Trump DID and listened to him fighting back, which I was always scared to do. Not anymore! He taught those of us willing to break out of our Conservative Molds HOW to fight (figuratively)!I love him for that.
(DIR) Post #A6gEXv05bBDFhJEoN6 by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T18:38:01Z
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@DougAdamavich @pamby1 @StevenDouglas I agree!!
(DIR) Post #A6gEbzL3PZiUJIz72G by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T18:38:44Z
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@DougAdamavich @pamby1 @StevenDouglas I don't, but I heard the swing states were ahead for Trump. For sure, California was headed in that direction.
(DIR) Post #A6gFp6hPSLhsrEGDw0 by rarity@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T18:52:20Z
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@DougAdamavich @Lisa22 @pamby1 @StevenDouglas I remember that vividly.Was watching Saul & Fudge when it happened. Suddenly, ~ 1:15 am, 100,000 vote dropped for Biden in VA. Trump had been ahead in VA until then. 😐
(DIR) Post #A6gFvu8aYgb9vRDNFQ by rarity@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T18:53:34Z
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@DougAdamavich @Lisa22 @pamby1 @StevenDouglas I remember that vividly.Was watching Saul & Fudge when it happened. Suddenly, ~ 1:15 am, 100,000 votes dropped for Biden in VA. Trump had been ahead in VA until then. 😐
(DIR) Post #A6gL0Kzn8s9K9a27cW by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T19:50:23Z
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@DougAdamavich @pamby1 @Stacie @StevenDouglas I read someone's post on here that the electoral fraud went back to the 2012 general election!
(DIR) Post #A6gL2n6nac4PvKTre4 by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T19:50:50Z
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@DougAdamavich @pamby1 @Stacie @StevenDouglas I read someone's post on here that the electoral fraud might have gone all the way back to the 2012 general election!
(DIR) Post #A6gSAddxMdd2Z0g9ZI by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T21:10:40Z
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@pamby1 @DougAdamavich @Stacie @StevenDouglas Oh yes, that's right!!
(DIR) Post #A6gSBxyLGeertyqajA by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T21:10:56Z
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@DougAdamavich @pamby1 @Stacie @StevenDouglas For sure!!
(DIR) Post #A6gSH9xQ8PFQWMtOzo by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T21:11:52Z
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@DougAdamavich @pamby1 @Stacie @StevenDouglas Something attacked/hacked Romney's computer system the day of the election -- gee, I wonder what that was?🤔
(DIR) Post #A6gSQCln30HTqklXFo by BlueDouche@noagendasocial.com
2021-04-27T21:13:28Z
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@DougAdamavich @Lisa22 @pamby1 @Stacie @StevenDouglas Romney's Whiff at the end hurt him hard with Mormons, & paved the way to the POS he is now.
(DIR) Post #A6gbeXqKOTTcqgniNc by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-27T22:56:56Z
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@DougAdamavich @pamby1 @Stacie @StevenDouglas Oh wow, that's insane!! To test it on the day.
(DIR) Post #A6hdMria9cSWLOpqj2 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-28T10:50:51Z
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@mainstem @OneRandomGuy Perp walks after the war. Just like WWII. Because a TOP DOWN DOJ swamp skimming is required. The DOJ now exists to protect and won't prosecute, let alone convict, one of their own. And they have gnarled-ass deep roots. So whatever war is won MUST be cataclysmic enough to go deep - or it's long game. GREAT satisfaction for winning the war, SLOW (and sometimes no) satisfaction on the final justice end.And I'm not in it for my personal satisfaction.Win the war.