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(DIR) Post #A6VEy80bieZmpgQ1rs by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:20:58Z
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THREADThis thread assumes a combination of election-overturning fraud - Foreign AND Domestic - occurred in 2020; BOTH were required but EACH were great enough to change the outcome were the other ignored.Consider two scenarios:SCENARIO 1PROOF OF FOREIGN INTERFERENCE REVEALED"We caught the bastards. Yes, China, Iran, and others SUCCESSFULLY defrauded our elections, more than enough to change the result. THAT'S HOW WEAK WE WERE, but boy are we going to make them pay for THAT!"OR...
(DIR) Post #A6VF4cAmTzZk7eGpXM by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:22:09Z
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SCENARIO 2PROOF OF WIDESPREAD DOMESTIC FRAUD REVEALED"Yes, there was foreign interference, as there has always been throughout history *DOWNPLAY DOWNPLAY*, but REAL ELECTION-OVERTURNING FRAUD happened domestically. And boy are we going to change that going into the future - starting now!"(as foreign interference is dealt with clandestinely by military capabilities deftly combined and isolated under Chris Miller)
(DIR) Post #A6VFAtq1iUhmeDYlKi by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:23:17Z
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For the moment, set aside the if/when/how remedy for the current mess. I'll get to that. I want to focus ONLY on the "moving forward" part for now.Which of the above scenarios would be most effective at restoring public confidence in our elections? And notice how everyone uses the word 'restoring' and not 'maintaining'? BECAUSE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IS ALREADY DESTROYED.
(DIR) Post #A6VFLByb8MeLnYTcGm by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:25:08Z
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Rasmussen showed an overwhelming 77% of voters who believed it was important to reform voting laws and procedures before the 2022 midterms. 83% Republicans, 77% Democrats and 71% independents. The blind and the evil make up a lowly 23% of voters. Less than 1 in 4.That's Constitutional Amendment level obliteration of public confidence.So I would argue AGAINST Scenario 1 as a confidence restorer. Showing all that is dark and evil and nasty under that rock could have the opposite effect.
(DIR) Post #A6VFUAJkfdw7GAeMQy by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:26:46Z
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In terms of PUBLIC perception IT IS ALREADY A WAR WE LOST -- FAILED, AS A COUNTRY, TO DEFEND AGAINST.Apparently.And forget federalism and State control of elections - THAT IS THE OVERWHELMING PUBLIC (including WORLD) PERCEPTION. That begs the question:Should the federal government, including the military, have successfully defended against foreign interference?Forget whether they did or not. Did they have that duty and responsibility?For me the answer is, "ARE YOU F-ING KIDDING ME?"
(DIR) Post #A6VFXBd2FjTQC86txA by Debbie742@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:27:19Z
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@StevenDouglas Scenario 2. But only if some of the major democrats come forward, acknowledge it and even some willingly step aside if its proven they lost. That would be unifying. But that's not going to happen.
(DIR) Post #A6VFbtoTuw8AOBiAKm by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:28:10Z
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IF-IF-IF the election was stolen via foreign interference, and there was no defense? The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ITSELF IS NO LONGER A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.It's a hijacked plane set on a course very different from the one We The People chose, en masse. The Constitution GUARANTEES to each State a Republican Form of government.
(DIR) Post #A6VFhnQMaIJEJNF4YS by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:29:14Z
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If foreign malefactors were able to DEFRAUD STATES ENOUGH TO CHANGE THE RESULTS OF A FEDERAL ELECTION, that means that ALL STATES were defrauded - and therefore no longer have their guarantee, given that YOU CANNOT GIVE WHAT IS NO LONGER YOURS TO BEGIN WITH.So yes, the Federal Government had a PROFOUND AND SACRED duty to protect - And *APPEARS* to have failed. In main part, apparently, due to ASS LOADS of treasonous help from within.
(DIR) Post #A6VFmuHSWIXh1YVwBc by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:30:09Z
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And, as the common reasoning goes, if we could be beaten once, we can be beaten again.Yesterday it was China, Iran and whomever else. Tomorrow it could be them and/or anyone else.WHICH MEANS NO CONFIDENCE MOVING FORWARD UNDER SCENARIO 1.That is all out of our DIRECT control. AND it doesn't address Scenario #2, overwhelming evidence of which everyone (who looked) plainly saw.
(DIR) Post #A6VFwkLoIGTT7hF1eq by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:31:55Z
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Scenario 2 is a STRICTLY INTERNAL FIGHT - against myriad f****g ghoulish clowns.That war could, depending on how it's won, lead to a Constitutional Amendment before all is said and done.One that reins in ALL STATES while also (INCIDENTALLY) protecting against foreign interference.And that APPEARS to be the order in which we are now proceeding. Clean the inside of the cup first, that the outside also may be clean.
(DIR) Post #A6VGANdPY3daiyyVuK by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:34:23Z
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So let's talk "devolution".First, devolution is not a monolithic all-or-nothing thing. Sometimes I hear it talked about in much the same way that I do pretend role plays with my 6 year-old son."Hi there, my car broke down.""Okay, here's a car repair part for you. Take the broken part out and put this one in.""OK, thank you."MILITARY: "China stole the election? Oh, shoot, then. Okay, one major devolution, coming up."
(DIR) Post #A6VGFPmkymUwqJkNn6 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:35:18Z
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Devolution is NOT ALL-OR-NOTHING.It is a GIGANTIC MENU of items which are AUTO-PRE-SELECTED based on specific, well-defined needs. And only those needed to ensure Continuity of LEGITIMATE Government.It is only there to ensure that we are NEVER LEADERLESS. We're HYDRA. Cut off ANY one head and another LEGITIMATE head IMMEDIATELY takes its place.Whether the public is aware of it or not.
(DIR) Post #A6VGNUiUWrluSAbYCO by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:36:45Z
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DEVOLUTION IS NOT MILITARY "RULE"As Thomas Wictor pointed out, THE MILITARY DOES NOT MAKE POLICY.Constitutionally and otherwise, no power from a missing legitimate leader or head of any of the three branches of government can 'devolve' onto ANY member of the military.With regard to military, President Trump already created an OPEN 'devolution' (order of succession) EO for The Department of Defense - WHICH HAS NOT BEEN REVOKED.https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-providing-order-succession-within-department-defense/
(DIR) Post #A6VGRSQF09LGUnxRuC by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:37:29Z
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DEVOLUTION IS NOT EXTRA-CONSTITUTIONALDevolution can only be PRE-ORDERED by an existing Constitutionally elected and legitimate President - under the Constitution and existing laws and statutes - in order to protect and defend Continuity of Government under the same.
(DIR) Post #A6VGZovLE00QbGUbIW by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:38:59Z
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MECHANICS OF DEVOLUTIONNow let's get down and dirty into the nitty gritty mechanics of how it's all playing out, what remedies we can expect to see, and when.*vacuous DUHHhh stare* I DON'T KNOW.OR CARE.I ASSUME that it's an ongoing war WITH BATTLEFIELD CONDITIONS CONSTANTLY CHANGING.I ALSO ASSUME that we'll NEVER learn the full extent of it. THAT COULD ERODE CONFIDENCE. My faith is in God. 100%. And, by extension, in the Donald John Trump I PERSONALLY believe He gave us.
(DIR) Post #A6VGfjhtXAJa9q1Xn6 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:40:04Z
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To the extent that some of us STRONGLY believe that SOME form of devolution in force now, the mechanics of it would be above ALL OUR PAY GRADES (and hopefully our enemies') to discern. By design. I've seen enough evidence to convince ME. There is nothing to defend and no NEED on my part for anyone else to be convinced. Of anything, save WHAT IS IN OUR DOMESTIC CONTROL.
(DIR) Post #A6VGvBsJ5Xs1rYGO1Y by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:42:51Z
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That's my ONLY appropriate area of massive focus and concern. The rest is just fun to think and talk about. Sometimes.Until it's not - as when a Pandora's Box of fear-and-worry-dominated unanswerable what-ifs are unleashed.Then, back to weird, wonderful people and chocolate cake for me.Good times, noodle salad. Have faith. We're in Good Hands, and the best IS yet to come.If God has other plans, I PRAYED FOR THEM TOO when I said, "Thy will be done".I'm at peace with that, too. END
(DIR) Post #A6VHiqxl74ifU5UiUi by blouie@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:51:50Z
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@StevenDouglas Thanks. Needed that.✝️ 🇺🇲
(DIR) Post #A6VHtu9pZkOIZtPWue by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:53:50Z
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@waronmorons I don't care how powerful you are or what weapons you have. Once you lose the will of the people, and they rise up - YOU ARE TOAST. Sooner or later, YOU'RE INFAMOUS HISTORY.And for us I FIRMLY BELIEVE that it's MUCH sooner than later.Wonderfully liberty and prosperity-spoiled bitches that we are.
(DIR) Post #A6VHzlH9Vkw4lid0Do by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:54:53Z
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ADDENDUM:My new saying, "Stick a fork in the road."
(DIR) Post #A6VIHrzbHDA8oU3LH6 by Clayrjr@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:58:09Z
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@StevenDouglas Scenario 3Our nation has completely lost its way in actively revoking the blessings of liberty ordained by God in the founding of the nation, which was supernatural in itself.This scenario involves a sifting of the heart of the nation by The Most High.MENE MENE TEKEL UPHARSINWe have been weighed in the balance and found to be lacking. Judgment begins in the House of the Lord.We are getting the leaders and future we deserve, not necessarily the ones we want.
(DIR) Post #A6VIMtUB9VPgtNkecC by awfulangel@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:59:04Z
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@StevenDouglas it's good
(DIR) Post #A6VIR7HTnuvmprpDCC by Timmerax@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T11:59:49Z
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@StevenDouglasThank you sir, we battle a lot with what if, you provide good clarity.
(DIR) Post #A6VISepoXNqJBrcTOy by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:00:06Z
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@Clayrjr His will be done, then. I don't even have to think about it. It has ZERO impact on what is expected of me by Him.
(DIR) Post #A6VJ2Y1nK2TwVLKxU0 by Cbvheartland2@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:06:36Z
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@StevenDouglas I've been reading and trying to figure out what the universal way the vote was manipulated, I can say the thing I believe was used in a universal way was the adjudication of the ballots that machines couldn't read and the original ballots were destroyed after they were manually entered, You really can't ignore the all out effort being made to stop every audit that has been announced, Why would you stop any effort to make sure our elections are safe and secure?
(DIR) Post #A6VJIKWnHaOBGhMWa8 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:09:26Z
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@sursdai I see an INFINITE combination of ways to the HOW of that Scenario. It all just makes me smile. Because it's INEVITABLE. It's HAPPENING. Every day. Slowly it turns, step by step, inch by inch...
(DIR) Post #A6VJZIJ0nYRdIb0N9c by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:12:30Z
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@Debbie742 It's self-sorting.And what is even more unifying is all the BIDEN-REMORSE out there now. They're dividing up - literally left and right (moderate). The base is DUST.As they used to say to us through their media about Trump prior to his first election, "THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN".
(DIR) Post #A6VJa9DA62FzNnfwtU by MadBeachBimbo@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:12:40Z
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@StevenDouglas Your threads are always so optimistic and heartening. I’ve been needing some heart.
(DIR) Post #A6VJeufNbL71ik99Ki by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:13:31Z
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@Mathman @Clayrjr Amen. Exactly, and well put.
(DIR) Post #A6VJuCTRfwqpIFr0LY by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:16:17Z
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@redwhitebluedude I was going to put something about that in the thread but forgot. Yes, devolution, almost like the word "liberal" has a different common meaning throughout the rest of the world. It DOES mean devolving power and authority, from more to less centralized. For us it's devolving power and authority as a secret line of succession - from higher ranked to vetted lower.
(DIR) Post #A6VK6wBhXS3sXzczMu by ManuelCerdan1@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:18:35Z
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@StevenDouglas"BECAUSE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE HAS BEEN DESTROYED."
(DIR) Post #A6VKDKkp77S6Tb6d5k by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:19:44Z
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@Debbie742 There is a LOT of that going on now, Debbie. That's the 30,000 ft. view I wish everyone had, and wouldn't lose sight of.I don't need much of that to keep it close to heart-not-mind, but what I continually see? My cup runneth over!
(DIR) Post #A6VKICLPoCZTqFXbPs by ManuelCerdan1@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:20:37Z
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@StevenDouglas The entire premise of them being dedicated to majoritarianism is a smoke screen as usual. They know they have no majorities. If they did, they wouldnt be pushing rule changes to effect outcomes they could get with popular support.
(DIR) Post #A6VKMuEmYclb8EgQcK by Clayrjr@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:21:28Z
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@StevenDouglas AMENOur call is to bloom where we’re planted. Make a positive difference every day. Love the Lord with all our heart, and love our neighbor as we love ourselves. His will be done in us. We are called into obedience to our Creator. To seek His will in our lives. Daniel 2:21And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
(DIR) Post #A6VKR4qz1qchDQXZyq by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:22:14Z
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@redwhitebluedude Right, and there are many countries (India and the UK come to mind) who have that form of devolution. Granite Shadow devolution is a different animal. It's continuity of existing devolved power at the federal level only - not to States (of which I'm aware, anyway).
(DIR) Post #A6VKe91cpWQJuzkW1Y by Debbie742@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:24:35Z
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@StevenDouglas That's what I keep telling my sons. I ask them "how has your life actually changed since the election?" Besides higher gas and food prices, which are bad but not unlike what we already saw under Obama. So - been there, done that. I also believe there's a lot going on behind the scenes. All you have to do is look at the crazy stuff going on around the WH. They walled off the Rose Garden so you can't even see any of it. Marine 1 can't even land there right now.
(DIR) Post #A6VLijGw6fSLRsf200 by TerriC@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:36:37Z
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@StevenDouglas @redwhitebluedude Steven, when I hear "devolution", Northern Ireland comes to mind. What we're seeing is NOTHING at all like that.Thank GOD we live in a Constitutional Republic! I weep at what both Ireland and N. Ireland have become.
(DIR) Post #A6VM9mdFiqkdgj026q by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:41:30Z
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@TerriC @redwhitebluedude Selfishly I thank heaven for the poverty, famine and abuse there Once Upon A Dark Time that caused my progenitor to make for the US. Likewise similar poverty and upheaval storms in London, Sweden, Spain, and Prussia. I'm stitched together from all kinds of refugee refuse.
(DIR) Post #A6VMKd2fiaNJ8A3p1k by Kalus@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:43:28Z
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@StevenDouglas Important Q: If Trump indeed had capability to detect and get a hold of evidence of election fraud/foreign interference in favor of Biden, AND pull this "devolution" move, then why didn't he just.. prevent the fraud in the first place?I remember @ThomasWic saying Trump chose not to prevent the fraud because his second term would have been the repeat of his first term. In this scenario, I think his second term would not have been enough to deal a death blow to Democrat/CCP beast.
(DIR) Post #A6VMjsmsJaEFCeiJou by Kalus@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:48:02Z
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I remember @ThomasWic saying Trump chose not to PREVENT the fraud because his second term would have been the repeat of his first term. In this scenario, I think his second term would not have been enough to deal a death blow to the Democrat/CCP beast.
(DIR) Post #A6VNDm0478neqA8W8m by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:53:26Z
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@Kegstr @ManuelCerdan1 Only upsides for Lindell, no down, regardless how it goes down.Think about what a ROUGH decision that might have been for KIMMEL. He's the zombie-surrounded one taking a major risk.
(DIR) Post #A6VNIOPTFX3f7mDqRk by Kalus@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:54:16Z
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I remember @ThomasWic saying Trump chose not to PREVENT the fraud because his second term would have been the repeat of his first term. In this scenario, I think his second term would not have been enough to deal a death blow to the Democrat/CCP beast.
(DIR) Post #A6VNJ84pSbsYl4v0eu by TerriC@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:54:23Z
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@StevenDouglas @redwhitebluedude As you can see by my avatar, my ties to Ireland run deep. My great grandparents and their families came here before the famine. I can only imagine their horror at being here while loved ones were there.
(DIR) Post #A6VNiwJho4TFoYBTyy by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T12:59:05Z
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@gideon @redwhitebluedude Wow, first time seeing this. Thanks for the reading material!
(DIR) Post #A6VNsOVKNLxTqI82SG by Philly_Fan@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T13:00:47Z
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@StevenDouglas Personally, I am angry that any scenario that's going on has left us in the position of having to take a lot of pointless, damaging pain in the meantime, from the fake president, among other Dems. As a country, we are in a skid, but we can at least be happy that someone has their hands on the wheel and knows how to turn into the skid.
(DIR) Post #A6VOWXxkd2cAlDZNom by janis@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T13:08:02Z
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@StevenDouglas What I don't get is the number of people who seem to think that Pres. Trump can stroll into the WH at a moment of his choosing and pick up where he left off. That it's just a choice on his part and he's holding off for the Big Moment for maximum drama and impact.Things have to play out as they will. If/when he comes back, it will be because all has been satisfied down to the last "jot and tittle" and there will not be an argument that can stand against it.
(DIR) Post #A6VOetc21H1mDrOLse by ManuelCerdan1@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T13:09:33Z
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@StevenDouglas @KegstrLindell should have zero f*cks and should treat Kimmel as an enemy. He is on ABCs payroll and just provided Hunter Bidet with a platform to joke about his nude drug use that involved Bidet exposing himself to kids. Kimmel covered this part up, but he had to know about this in full bringing up his nude photos.
(DIR) Post #A6VPJSDAngVp746Vns by DonnaLea@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T13:16:52Z
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@Clayrjr Don't forget this one which is the problem, people have forgotten. This is a conditional promise, IF my people/Then I will. @StevenDouglas
(DIR) Post #A6VPLrpcW4nd9SEouu by DonnaLea@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T13:17:18Z
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@Clayrjr Don't forget this one which is the problem, people have forgotten. This is a conditional promise, IF my people/Then I will. @StevenDouglas
(DIR) Post #A6VQ1cGilkDp2wp0Sm by DonnaLea@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T13:24:50Z
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@Clayrjr Also, these prayers will not go unanswered. @StevenDouglas
(DIR) Post #A6VQwQi8PgrRhsjdAW by Linnie@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T13:35:07Z
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@StevenDouglas Boy did I need this to wake up to. Thank you❤️
(DIR) Post #A6VShyJ9PyZ1TFHaC0 by Seedsaver@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T13:54:55Z
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@StevenDouglas @sursdai https://youtu.be/MYP1OBZfFK0
(DIR) Post #A6VT5L7YlXGKsu0HnU by LonesomeMesa@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T13:59:09Z
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@StevenDouglas Amen, and Amen.
(DIR) Post #A6VTA0eAJc3wpiTuF6 by Annasmom22@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T13:59:59Z
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@StevenDouglas Thank you for another excellent post!
(DIR) Post #A6VUbkNYUao8RRVCpU by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T14:16:13Z
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@WeThePeople_Awakened @janis For the record, that isn't a contradiction to me. FOR ME: I'm in control of my will, a gift from God to everyone. He is in control of where and when He puts me, knowing in advance how I will choose to exercise it.
(DIR) Post #A6VUpXPZVBRkHI1OAy by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T14:18:42Z
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@WordsOfTruth @waronmoronsThe Rule of Law, not men, was a grand evolutionary step in the Godly direction.
(DIR) Post #A6VV0Q2XFX5obJR1U0 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T14:20:40Z
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@RoseThistle @redwhitebluedude We're getting laws engraved on our inward parts now. As promised.
(DIR) Post #A6VV8SAvC7hhXXBkh6 by janis@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T14:22:06Z
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@StevenDouglas @WeThePeople_Awakened Perfect way to explain it, Steven, thank you.
(DIR) Post #A6VVkII8OFQRtGbddw by macoman4u1@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T14:28:57Z
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@StevenDouglas A unifying seal at that.@RoseThistle @redwhitebluedude
(DIR) Post #A6VWspWWokIdEFyNhg by skhillx3@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T14:41:42Z
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@StevenDouglas Thank you, we are in good hands God is on His Throne. I also pray His will be done...not mine.
(DIR) Post #A6VX9oBL3k1XzT9pMu by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T14:44:46Z
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@WeThePeople_Awakened Two things.1) The difference between influence and control to me is, ultimately, is the difference between good and evil. We influence people all the time. Some go with it, others ignore it - nobody's free will is affected by it. 2) I don't see how accurately predicting choices or controls on where and when you're born affects free will. Note that you said "accurately predicting *choices*". Not making them for you. Accurately predicting them. 3) cont.
(DIR) Post #A6VXKIJdsQsuLS2dYO by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T14:46:40Z
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@WeThePeople_Awakened 3) I don't conflate liberty (external) with free will (internal).For me free will is INTERNAL - of the heart and innermost core. It's only evinced to the extent that you are at liberty to act on it.
(DIR) Post #A6VXe6w3tlGyqDSevY by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T14:50:15Z
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@WeThePeople_Awakened The only thing that tells me that I know and trust I will always choose God has nothing to do with any good that I do. It's the COUNTLESS times I hit the dirt after having failed. I KNOW I will always do that.
(DIR) Post #A6VY9PqVdj8iT4n8Fc by SwampWitch@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T14:55:54Z
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@StevenDouglas 💯 *Brilliant* thread! And I've not even finished reading it, yet.👏 👏👏 👏🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
(DIR) Post #A6VYBrIOYMAQBI02BE by rarity@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T14:56:21Z
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@Rooibos @StevenDouglas Well said.
(DIR) Post #A6VYII0o8SB4mHq7f6 by SwampWitch@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T14:57:30Z
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@StevenDouglas AMEN!🙏
(DIR) Post #A6VaqV980cAZGcAlxg by Zemeliko@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T15:26:06Z
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@StevenDouglas A TERRIFIC thread, my friend.Your discernment certainly helps you find some peace of mind between all the knowns and unknowns, the explained and the unexplainables, that happen these days.And by sharing it with us, helping put some pieces of the puzzle better with one another, we get a little bit of that too.So thank you!
(DIR) Post #A6VfHMXoUwNaDxmbp2 by MichaelDaudel@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T16:15:47Z
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@StevenDouglas Devolution is distributed, adaptive, and delegated by design.
(DIR) Post #A6VgVJoHYqYfkghklU by Karen99@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T16:29:30Z
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@StevenDouglas ahhhh, thanks for that thread. Nice way to wake up in the morning!
(DIR) Post #A6VhCj6lNZHofH30fw by SwampWitch@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T16:37:21Z
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@StevenDouglas As am I!I'm everything from Red to Black to Yellow to White to Brown!😂 I am a Mutt and damned proud of it!🇺🇸 @TerriC @redwhitebluedude
(DIR) Post #A6VhTYdRZQ9z6fMKv2 by EarlThePearls@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T16:40:23Z
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@WeThePeople_Awakened @StevenDouglas "I envy your faith."The First Step is the hardestGets easier over time, no matter the trials and tribulationsIf you think it is getting harder you aren't looking at it right
(DIR) Post #A6VhiphQPN2GNFVO6K by EarlThePearls@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T16:43:09Z
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@WeThePeople_Awakened @StevenDouglas Faith does not require analysis or proofYou have it Or you don't
(DIR) Post #A6Vhvvpeuy699vbQfY by EarlThePearls@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T16:45:30Z
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@StevenDouglas Well! Picture that!Oops! you did!
(DIR) Post #A6VnrBKQTWeNUs70Fs by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T17:51:53Z
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@StevenDouglas Regarding your statements:"Now let's get down and dirty into the nitty gritty mechanics of how it's all playing out, what remedies we can expect to see, and when.*vacuous DUHHhh stare* I DON'T KNOW.OR CARE."I don't understand this. This is beyond abstraction. This is saying there is no way to know what is happening with these 'devolution' theories, or if anything will come of them, or what the point is.Who is supposedly in charge of all of this?
(DIR) Post #A6Vp2NxJy2A9ndD8ue by karnage@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T18:05:07Z
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@timr @StevenDouglas We wuz robbed.Take care of your own.
(DIR) Post #A6Vp6SypEGh6XYrPsm by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T18:05:51Z
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@timr Right. We don't even "know" if there is a "this" to be in charge of.Nothing abstract here. Very straightforward.EVERYTHING with regard to the possibility of devolution is speculation based on circumstantial evidence only - gone over here ad nauseum.SUBJECTIVELY "strong" to me, compelling to some, interesting to others, and zip-nothing to others still.Not enough to convict, let alone convince many.It is or isn't. It can't be ruled out/disproved, not important that it be proved.
(DIR) Post #A6Vpf7NvVl4phR7nE0 by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T18:12:07Z
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@StevenDouglas Regarding: "Right. We don't even "know" if there is a "this" to be in charge of."You posted this thread in the context of addressing election fraud and restoring trust.How does this 'devolution' relate to that? There has to be something real at some point in all of this.
(DIR) Post #A6VqZFQOo2oGqr2uDw by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T18:22:14Z
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@timr Now we're down into the "I DON'T KNOW" weeds, and can only consider plausible (TO ME ONLY) scenarios.Example: Devolution, HYPOTHETICALLY, could in this case be in the event that the military KNEW (had proof) that the "apparent" final winner(s) of the election were not legitimate due to massive FOREIGN interference. (SEE LINDELL)If the military could not, for whatever reasons, make its findings known to the public, that could, in theory, leave us without a legitimate head of state.
(DIR) Post #A6Vqho6vjDkOkF1M6C by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T18:23:49Z
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@timr ALL of that would tie in directly to the problem of how to restore public confidence.
(DIR) Post #A6VrDjXcFlyrq5j6wq by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T18:29:35Z
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@StevenDouglas Alright - well, good on you for giving an example. I occasionally look at these devolution theory threads, and you are the only poster who actually responds. For me, it is like traveling in a foreign land. But they are numerous and quite popular hereI still don't know how this is supposed to work in terms of authority. Biden is commander in chief. Terrible - but unquestionably true. And the next election is in 2024.
(DIR) Post #A6VrbfbUXoqcZqxA1I by Dodgerprincess@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T18:33:54Z
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@timr I am with you. I just don’t get it.. meanwhile every day people’s lives are getting destroyed by bankruptcy.. @StevenDouglas
(DIR) Post #A6VrlyQFQqXJq1bhi4 by lolajl@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T18:35:46Z
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@StevenDouglas I have to say that I'm with @timr here. I'm just not seeing who could be running the devolution process.
(DIR) Post #A6VtJphQTCVIaILq52 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T18:53:06Z
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@lolajl @Dodgerprincess @timr Not important to me, but theoretically it could be Mike Pompeo, since he was in the direct line of Constitutional AND statutory succession.Under terms that none of us would know.Deal made?In terms of DOMESTIC policy it appears the BidenCo are fully empowered. In terms of military power, as Commander in Chief, not seeing it.EO's on gender policy and other bullshit, announced withdrawal from Afghanistan THAT TRUMP AGREED WITH BUT SAID WAS NOT FAST ENOUGH?
(DIR) Post #A6VtyLpmPflxpdZyr2 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T19:00:25Z
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@lolajl @Dodgerprincess @timr No AF1 call sign.Military salute for a foreign dignitary.Locked out of the White House.China slaps BidenCo around like that admin is their bitch.Kim Jung Un and Putin won't talk to them.VP awaits extended "remodeling"?Etc.Seeing a Presidential admin, not so much a Commander In Chief. But I could be wrong.
(DIR) Post #A6VuesIe657ygVMFoe by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T19:08:06Z
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@OneLargeToe @lolajl @Dodgerprincess @timr VERY possible. Could soon become the very lamest of ducks. Same result.
(DIR) Post #A6VvmzKNx0QkkibWXg by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T19:20:46Z
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@OneLargeToe @lolajl @Dodgerprincess @timrOne problem with laying out hypothetical scenarios with any detail - aside from the fact that it's ADMITTEDLY Scientific Wild Ass Guessing, is that it's too easy to then treat as A Strongly Asserted Hypothesis - which it is not.It's all guessing, but can lead to equally specious Argument By Ridicule.And, once again, who cares? We all see with a general set of common governing principles, albeit from different angles and through different lenses.
(DIR) Post #A6VyS5cNfUsS2hkQhk by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T19:50:36Z
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@winglessnutRegarding: "How do you explain the current situation?"What situation? @StevenDouglas
(DIR) Post #A6Vym1y4wsdwVvPD7o by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T19:54:13Z
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@winglessnut I have no idea what you are talking about. Biden is the President and the commander in chief. That is the horrible, repulsive reality. This 'devolution' theory - or some new variation on this hydra-headed thing called 'devolution' - does not take these obvious and inescapable facts into account.And they are facts@StevenDouglas
(DIR) Post #A6W0dbeh5v36UxRung by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T20:15:06Z
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@winglessnutYes - in my 'black and white world' Biden is indeed President and commander in chief.It is called realityYou are skating on thin ice here. @StevenDouglas
(DIR) Post #A6W1Hi8QQHy8B4TlHk by Goldie35@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T20:22:20Z
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@Clayrjr @StevenDouglas I don’t disagree that those who claim to be followers of Jesus (‘the church’) have massively failed to be salt & light. However, re gov’t pre DJT, we were MASSIVELY deceived. He pulled that curtain back and exposed a lot of it, and the citizens responded by delivering a landslide. We were CHEATED. Hence, I disagree that we *currently “deserve” the gov’t we have.
(DIR) Post #A6WGxIngVNL14x4Hj6 by MEMA@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T23:17:56Z
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@timr @winglessnut @StevenDouglas No bout a doubt it, you are correct timr, this is the reality people need to wrap their minds around... whenever you start theorizing from a point of wishful thinking, what if's, or speculation you create for yourself (and others) endless scenarios of distraction, disillusion, and disappointment... dealing with reality involves creating strategies with likely positive outcomes, builds critical thinking abilities, and long term goals for future success... jmo
(DIR) Post #A6WJ9OjsS20KseBOHQ by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T23:42:32Z
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@MEMA Good post, Mary - well said@winglessnut @StevenDouglas
(DIR) Post #A6WJh3QCDPJuby1dqq by MEMA@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-22T23:48:37Z
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@timr Thank you timr @winglessnut @StevenDouglas
(DIR) Post #A6WYFUNFuZ4bPJxpiK by Clayrjr@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-23T02:31:42Z
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@Goldie35 @StevenDouglas Learned this one from @watch4thedrop for situations just like this...
(DIR) Post #A6WYgZ36dbaVj2RwuW by watch4thedrop@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-23T02:36:36Z
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@Clayrjr @Goldie35 @StevenDouglas i got a tanhttp://gif.co/McuT.gif
(DIR) Post #A6WaTpQgcn7YfiXBLc by hchooley@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-23T02:56:42Z
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@StevenDouglas Great thread! I really enjoyed that.
(DIR) Post #A6WeIcxF47M6c3fypE by Clayrjr@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-23T03:39:30Z
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@watch4thedrop @Goldie35 @StevenDouglas What’s that tan got tah do wit me?
(DIR) Post #A6X2m8dsjC7kBkE23k by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-23T08:13:45Z
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@winglessnut @MEMA @timr AKA the vast majority of Trump's base. Good description.
(DIR) Post #A6XYTUTQX45SvcUG3s by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-23T14:08:56Z
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@kittykatt I'm not here for the perp walks anyway. Gravy if get those.I just want them shut down, ground to dust as a collective enterprise, and disbursed to the four winds.
(DIR) Post #A6YZkBlfcx1WwsVSam by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-24T01:57:53Z
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@moe3030 @lolajl @Dodgerprincess @timr And I share your opinion, as the election wouldn't have been so far off the goof-poop-stupid scale without their desperate weight on it.
(DIR) Post #A6YZt481OrhdrTC4n2 by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-24T01:59:27Z
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@moe3030 I am basically in agreement on that@StevenDouglas @lolajl @Dodgerprincess
(DIR) Post #A6YdegwrBaVPjSNBuS by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-24T02:41:42Z
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@moe3030 Agreed. High standards here@StevenDouglas @lolajl @Dodgerprincess
(DIR) Post #A6aLmdwOqE3BrYilKC by phoebedrobinson@social.quodverum.com
2021-04-24T22:30:52Z
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@Clayrjr amen and amen.