Post A6FRKl51JsOGYKfYyu by nergal@linuxrocks.online
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(DIR) Post #A6FHB0IoruZZKLplBY by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T18:30:14Z
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if you were to replace free (as in libre) in the term, 'free software', for something more descriptive of what you see free software to be, which would be a probable choice? #poll #free #nomenclature #word #name #symbol
(DIR) Post #A6FHheFxr8ukVc43jk by sanneddu@social.byoblu.com
2021-04-14T18:35:59Z
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@nergal from GNU :Gnu is Not Unix GNU = FREE software
(DIR) Post #A6FI8zINk2zHZxEQKW by sanneddu@social.byoblu.com
2021-04-14T18:40:55Z
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@nergal from GNU:GNU = Gnu is Not UnixIt means: we have not OWNERS, but working-friends-that-create-a-future-for-all-of-usI would NOT REPLACE that word.In NEO-LANGUAGE (Orwell 1984) changing words means CHANGING VALUES of the words.It's devil scam.. ;)Would you call "SHIT" : "floating amphibious material" .. because "shit" hurts shit?I DONT.THIEF != "otherwise honest"
(DIR) Post #A6FJwRiswBzLtAm9zM by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T19:01:05Z
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@sanneddu besides "gnu is not unix" describing 'a' free software, there seems to be concern that free evokes the imagery of "not requiring sacrifice or fee" instead of "being available to one and all" 🤔 it is probably like 'shit' now being quite ambiguous ("that's some good shit!" x "shit hit the fan"). the devils in control of mainstream have made "open" seem more precise than "free" and likened "free software" to the expansion of "freeware". can we defend against those shylocks otherwise?
(DIR) Post #A6FK1TRzwRrih9H4z2 by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T19:02:05Z
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@sanneddu where i am from, politicians say what they do "is not stealing. it is 'misappropriation of funds'."
(DIR) Post #A6FKCk6YMX2rX3cK6S by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T19:04:10Z
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@sanneddu besides "gnu is not unix" describing 'group of free softwares', seems to be concern that free evokes the imagery of "not requiring sacrifice or fee" instead of "being available to one and all" 🤔 probably like 'shit' now being quite ambiguous ("that's some good shit!" x "shit hit the fan"). the devils in control of mainstream have made "open" seem more precise than "free" and likened "free software" to the expansion of "freeware". can we defend against those shylocks otherwise?
(DIR) Post #A6FKYHpOAx8wChrTpg by sanneddu@social.byoblu.com
2021-04-14T19:07:55Z
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@nergal in en_US .. there are words to express that idea.Maybe we can CREATE another word to express it.something like: "people-sw"(par contre: owned-sw)Or .. any ideas? :)
(DIR) Post #A6FLZfsoKB193Nghmq by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T19:18:07Z
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@sanneddu gz! think i see what you mean... start naming and it seems there is no value in the name. also, thought has to even be given to the locale where the term is "created". is this why religions always used symbols instead of words?yet, swastika still got hijacked for nefarious references? crosses being derived of god tammuz? 自由? ... so even symbols fall prey to misconception?let it remain "free" then?
(DIR) Post #A6FLsZzkRMwsIHwnJY by sanneddu@social.byoblu.com
2021-04-14T19:22:46Z
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@nergal maybe we can use a symbol that extra-terrestrial people may understand.something like a circle..(NOT a triangle, nor a pyramid, nor a petagon..)maybe an asterisk?(3 lines that collide in a center)or .. a TAO? :)it's a VERY good question.Ask ESR (eric steve) or FSF (software fundation)ask .. then let me know. :)
(DIR) Post #A6FNgLBhrobYntpgRM by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T19:43:08Z
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@sanneddu while fsf, esr, rms and others are the prime exemplars of the free software precepts, free software was set to be a way of living, yes? they have already put forward their ideas and solutions. would it be better to put things to practice to fit their example (spread the love) instead of asking them to put themselves in a position of leadership (creating a single point of failure)?
(DIR) Post #A6FOHYHq81I28zRenA by sanneddu@social.byoblu.com
2021-04-14T19:49:20Z
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@nergal nope, you misunderstood the idea :)I mean:if we want to DISTINGUISH 'free software' from other kind of sw..MAYBE we can call it in another way.I LIVE "free software" philosophy.. i DO NOT use owner sw. And everytime I need.. I use this for my life and my friends.BUT .. I KNOW they (dumb-users) do not understand what this means. (They DO NOT read/write java/javascript/etc..)Maybe.. changing name can change this status? do you think so? :)
(DIR) Post #A6FQVe57a0VU4xLOfg by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T20:14:48Z
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@sanneddu changing the name could increase understanding. naming things is a powerful teaching tool. "open source" is a harmful term.where i work for instance have been bitten by "open source" on at least 3 occasions (one being #3cx). imagine going at a free solution for an in-house project that you may swap out or drop at any time only to have vendor-specific options sneak in and suddenly getting messages trying to force subscription. suddenly proprietary!"open source" now means "thieves"!
(DIR) Post #A6FRKl51JsOGYKfYyu by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T20:23:51Z
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@sanneddu and "open source" is forced to be synonymous to "free software". much conversation has much explaining of the difference between the 2.concerning quality of free software: many problems persist because operators seek to have free software mimic the results of a proprietary format, instead of reproducing content in a stable, reproducible, available, unowned format (wanting to open psd file without purchasing photoshop). so free standards instead of persisting use of proprietary?
(DIR) Post #A6FRhP7N8kVJ6CZGZU by sanneddu@social.byoblu.com
2021-04-14T20:27:59Z
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@nergal this remind me some years ago..when .doc become .docxand .odt ... well.. you know.Some people STEAL this .. creating NEW closed-source formats. do you remember the name? :) (always same people..)it's a CHOICE.YOU .. have to do it.you know: how to close mac donald?EASY: DONT GO THERE! :)But.. i can be proud.some people NEED to work .. NEED to eat.. NEED!(something)Thus.. it's not possible.because WE DO NOT SHARE things, just apps.. :(
(DIR) Post #A6FS8I5ZNkZ37LXrhQ by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T20:33:00Z
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@sanneddu also, it is about perspective too. i did not know about stallman until about 2008 or so (when i first decided to try emacs, after about 7 years of free operating systems). the way he stood up to tivo and abuse of people. meanwhile everybody else was espousing "compromise". they would say, "corporations need money", "the world needs innovation from competition", "free software is a communist concept". recently, i was even told "you don't have to use free software" 1/2
(DIR) Post #A6FSSBZJKlyugdwWjw by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T20:36:36Z
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@sanneddu as if proprietary is the true option and free software an alternative.i do not write code. i seldom report bugs. i play video games and watch movies on questionable platforms. yet once it comes to sharing with others, it has to be something unbridled. has to be an open standard.
(DIR) Post #A6FSaT1OKQG78I1hEO by sanneddu@social.byoblu.com
2021-04-14T20:37:16Z
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@nergal i was even told "you don't have to use free software"IGNORANT PEOPLE say this..Thing about:do you use FREE air?do you use a FREE body?do you use FREE sunlight?do you use FREE summer/winter/..?thus.. WHY NOT??Using FREE SOFTWARE?? :)The idea: if you DEPEND from proprietary sw .. you're NOT FREE. Like using MS-air or MS-thinking .. or MS-brain. Or .. MS-covid-vaccine.THIS is the real PROBLEM. :)
(DIR) Post #A6FSl8Tb3SZibBJ3Sq by sanneddu@social.byoblu.com
2021-04-14T20:39:52Z
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@nergal let me be clear:1 + 2 = 3is this free math??is MATH free software?IF you think NOT.. you're a stupid that uses MS-Win without THINKING! :) (and I know you dont! :) )thus.. if math is free.. WHY the-product-of-math has to be proprietary??is ths sun FREE STUFF? :)
(DIR) Post #A6FSowa9Dg2grqBcRM by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T20:40:40Z
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@sanneddu the fiasco where microsoft came up with the "competing" open xml crap for office xp or 2003? cannot remember the details. they had even patented something with xml to prevent open document format optimization. something to do with xml serialization? office documents ended up being more size efficient because of this.
(DIR) Post #A6FT50Y8EiEfo0u4Zs by sanneddu@social.byoblu.com
2021-04-14T20:43:28Z
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@nergal do you remember .. C# ??it IS C++ .. !!BUT!!!!you can write THAT LANGUAGE .. ONLY if you buy a license.I will NOT use that language.I still continue writing in C/Java/anything else! :)easy.(for me)WHY not for all people?because of the TV. because of "money".But "money" it's a PROPRIETARY stuff. It's a LIE!.. and lot of people do NOT WANT TO KNOW.
(DIR) Post #A6FUUkqJM988ZjFPAu by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T20:59:26Z
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@sanneddu https://metager.org/meta/meta.ger3?eingabe=lumi+maroon money is a trading tool but is out of the hands of the people trading with each other. money has no democracy.was wise not to let facebook or telegram establish a currency. forcing people to be on a platform to be able to benefit is a no. the lumi is a different case. the maroons won bested the british. they are their own people, then they get their own currency.as we will continually see, it is your own that betrays you (as they did hannibal of carthage).
(DIR) Post #A6FVH2eoQQulj4tUvI by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T21:08:12Z
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@sanneddu among linux distros, c# and .net is mono? poor wine... remember when msft sabotaged wine at least twice: once when windows users were using it to bypass win98, 2000 and xp update blocks; other when more than a year of development was ceased due to accusations of patent violations and illegal routine copying. devs had to audit and cleanroom reverse engineer everything, on their own expense. with all that, msft is still accepted by the ignorant masses.
(DIR) Post #A6FVdzO0kjzsF2yfnU by sanneddu@social.byoblu.com
2021-04-14T21:12:11Z
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@nergal people problem:IGNORANCE!-- and lot of people DO NOT WANT to achieve another kind of LIVING.It's their fault. NOT MINE.Same thinking about vaccines.. think about: a stupid that call PROGRAMMING ERRORS -> "viruses" .. is THE SAME that sell ANTIVIRUS for your body.Will you trust these people?I DONT! But i'm not my people.I'm just me.If "a-lot-of-me" will exist .. these problems would NOT exist no more. :)
(DIR) Post #A6FWsEPXmuvKqf38xU by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T21:26:08Z
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@sanneddu that is the thing! there are other working antivirals that are not affiliated with big-pharma or billionaires. the world makes them look like inferior solutions (cuba and russia). in the end, the choice is a persons to take antivirals. past events of mutating microbes usually sprang from abuse of antibiotics anyway. why may this be any different? telling people that natural resistance is less effective than artificial immunization. (not!) https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/04/previous-covid-19-may-cut-risk-reinfection-84
(DIR) Post #A6FXIi4k7PvsNdwiVE by sanneddu@social.byoblu.com
2021-04-14T21:30:45Z
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@nergal what about sw?Antivirus?? It doesnt exist!!!in this world we call it:PROGRAMMING ERRORS!nowadays.. Mr. Gates sells antivirus. BUT.. WHAT IF his cancer is a lie?? (like "programming errors")NOBODY knows it.but everyone get a shot.WHY???- I will not. -
(DIR) Post #A6FXrnq6gFAMONpknI by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-14T21:37:13Z
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@sanneddu what cancer? antivirus on windows is an autocracy. very poor, inappropriate design. proper reaction is to replace what allows the malware to work with simpler, safe functions. majority of those vulnerabilities in windows are there on purpose, to leave a way in for an alphabet agency to penetrate when they feel like doing so.
(DIR) Post #A6JdTWwQvZBfpVkFai by excarnateSojourner@mastodon.technology
2021-04-16T20:58:59Z
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@nergal Maybe "public".
(DIR) Post #A6K398RusQhoswPGF6 by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-17T01:46:38Z
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@excarnateSojourner as in "public domain"?
(DIR) Post #A6K3MpYfuTZaLl699E by excarnateSojourner@mastodon.technology
2021-04-17T01:49:06Z
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@nergal I wasn't thinking of the term "public domain" specifically, but that's the idea, yeah.
(DIR) Post #A6K3naYLo63vdAhoTA by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-17T01:53:56Z
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@excarnateSojourner is why the discussion went to discover naming is not the issue. the issue is social as no amount of naming will enlighten people in choosing to adopt free software ideals and ways of relationships.as long as there is a cyberactive market to please, profit to be made, greed will always fuel the defeat of free software. unless people could glimpse the future that is.
(DIR) Post #A6K4TnqEn6LV0UCYBE by nergal@linuxrocks.online
2021-04-17T02:01:35Z
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@excarnateSojourner s|defeat|demise