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(DIR) Post #A5iIkV5rFD023TR5Fo by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T20:41:52Z
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Today Biden realized my worst fear.. worst president in fucking history.. He just announced today a "vaccine passport" where it can be freely used to discriminate against you if you don't have one showing you got a COVID vaccination. This means jobs can fire you, businesses can require it to enter, and it can prevent you from flying.In effect it now encourages and enables business and entities to discriminate based on an aspect of your medical records and effectively provides a means to circumvent existing laws that would otherwise protect your medical records.To add insult to injury we arent even talking about a normal vaccine, we are talking about the first vaccine in US history that was allowed to completely bypass the last stage of safety tests, which give legal immunity for the companies so they can not be sued if people get sick from the vaccines. So in effect they have set up a situation where you are forced to take a drug that didnt pass full safety tests, against your will, and be excluded from the whole of society if you dont.#COVID #COVIDpassport #Biden #SocialJustice #freedom
(DIR) Post #A5iInqEt58DaVQFiZE by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-29T20:42:36Z
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@freemo hey, it isn't as bad as Hitler, ask his son Hunter
(DIR) Post #A5iJ92ktk2ZzPDKptI by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T20:46:25Z
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@TruthAndFreedom forcing people to take a drug to participate in society is kinda worse than hitler in a way
(DIR) Post #A5iJRzbdfuKz8l2X5c by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T20:49:46Z
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@freemo Yeah Baby! :blobaww: Nobody will discriminate. It is about decisions.Any person can refuse the vaccine. Everybody else should not be on danger in testimony of the freedom of a dumb-ass.
(DIR) Post #A5iJU9PYBuHw84Plqq by hans_w@federate.hopto.org
2021-03-29T20:49:40Z
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Well, what will be the alternative? Keep the part of the economy that requires buyers closed?
(DIR) Post #A5iJZaRJ7yvvP6pQsS by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-29T20:51:13Z
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@freemo he did that sort of stuff in concentration camps, it was hidden from the German people but made known during the Nuremberg Trials. difference today: Americans are known to be armed citizens, they have ways to stop governments, both federal and local
(DIR) Post #A5iJbLnkWSeOaHAOUS by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T20:51:31Z
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@freemo do not cry us a river.You have the option of not getting vaccinated. All good with that.Pandemic requires everybody is vaccinated in planes, restaurants, etc. It is common sense.@TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iJsC7LmQejTOMmzA by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T20:54:30Z
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@hans_w Why would we need to keep the economy closed, it worked out fine with every past disase, re:vaccines
(DIR) Post #A5iJxW60vbfQsoHNia by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T20:55:28Z
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@pthenq1 We never needed "passports" like this before and its just fine.. your argument is so stupid, anyone who wants to be protected can and will just take the vaccine@TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iLUFBOvobtwEy6zY by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T21:12:38Z
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@freemo No completely.The pandemic must stop so the virus stops mutating.That mean that 90%+ of population have to get the vaccine.If a new variant resistance to the vaccine is created by mutations, this will start all over again.And you like math, you know: when the original variant stops, all the minor variants will have an opportunity to test our defenses (and the vaccine). @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iLYWRAipgSbtNwrg by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:13:19Z
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@hans_w measles, tuburculosis, smallpox.. none of these required registrations or mandatory vaccination and guess what, they are damn near nonexistant in the country today... so tell me again why it is needed? Clearly the evidence in every single disease we vaccinated to date shows it is not.
(DIR) Post #A5iLa8rBMfuM3WK8I4 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:13:30Z
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@pthenq1 measles, tuburculosis, smallpox.. none of these required registrations or mandatory vaccination and guess what, they are damn near nonexistant in the country today... so tell me again why it is needed? Clearly the evidence in every single disease we vaccinated to date shows it is not.@TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iLhhK5cP6myhRpK4 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:14:59Z
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@pthenq1 Thats not how it has worked out with a single disease in the past.. we have vaccinated against countless diseases so far, not once has it been mandatory or require anything like this and they all were eliminated just fine.. your making up shit that has nothing to do with the reality we have seen over the course of 100 years of doing this!@TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iLl9gUd0BTo9ZjxA by khird@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:15:34Z
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@freemo Are you sure about this? Of the three general news sources I normally consume, two (which I would've expected to support the president) have no coverage of this at all, and the third (which I would've expected to criticise the president) is carrying a statement from the White House Press Secretary which denies that the administration is creating vaccination passports.I think it's much more likely they'll treat it like other vaccines anyway - your school or employer or whatever can require you to document that you're vaccinated against measles, for example, but there is no national "measles passport" everyone's required to have.
(DIR) Post #A5iLoenPPdebARTpMO by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:16:17Z
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@khird CNN and business insider supported it.. plus biden made it as one of his campaign promises at the DNC acceptance speech.. i am positive.
(DIR) Post #A5iLvNArKPakXdeQfQ by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:17:30Z
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@khird tons of news about it everywhere, was just announced today officially:https://www.google.com/search?q=vaccine+passport&sxsrf=ALeKk02ND-3be8fChN3cQG1G-UXhguGD3g:1617052618317&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwio5Ja3ttbvAhXyUjUKHXElDzUQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=2440&bih=1345
(DIR) Post #A5iLwgk63iuJWNlDKy by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T21:17:30Z
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@freemo they do not mutate like this one. Besides, population used to see the effect of those diseases so they were more willing to be vaccinated.Today's COVID19 fight is a political stance (it is crazy and stupid, but it is what it is). So times and virus are not comparable.Do the math. Build a model if you do not like current models. Variants will be predominant and we need all of them GONE with this version of the vaccine. We do not need a mutation resistant to current version of vaccines...@TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iM5GBQAvH7ktd29I by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-29T21:19:21.373014Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @TruthAndFreedom vaccination has never been an effective strategy against coronaviruses. why do you think flu shots haven’t eradicated the flu?
(DIR) Post #A5iM6g4NPpvcKX0eO0 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:19:32Z
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@pthenq1 Dude your talking out of your ass, none of the mutations this virus has underwent is remotely unusual and none of them constitute a new strain, they are all classivied as "variants" which is much less severe a mutation than a strain.. There is no evidence these mutations in any way risk the vaccination...You are literally just making up arguments that dont actually exist to support your bias and im pretty sure you know it because no research backs up anything you said.@TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iMAbUgN0MBIUBacq by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:20:14Z
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@icedquinn The flu is not a coronavirus.. though you are right that vaccinations have never been an effective measure against coronaviruses.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iMBytQrFey9rQ3VI by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-29T21:20:34.560427Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo They’ve literally been selling flu shots year afterward year and dodging criticism by claiming oh well it didn’t work against the strain that actually manifest so trust isntobget it wrong again next year :blobcatgoogly:
(DIR) Post #A5iMCwhoTa15fCRciu by hans_w@federate.hopto.org
2021-03-29T21:15:51Z
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So, why did I need a letter from a doc stating I did not have a small pox vaccine? Why did I need to show my vaccine book before I traveled to the south of the USA?
(DIR) Post #A5iMCxBEiBYJ8SD7aK by hans_w@federate.hopto.org
2021-03-29T21:16:57Z
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Why did I need to take a vaccine againts yellow fever if they gave me a job travelling to certain areas of the world?
(DIR) Post #A5iMQurK8eBbzTYRmK by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T21:23:11Z
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@freemo Anyway, vaccine is voluntary. And it will be voluntary.They will give you a receipt/passport that could be required for someone else because pandemic reasons.That is how it works everywhere in the world.But if you do not want to apply the vaccines, you have the right to not do it. @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iMeBpKMcbMNbwyQa by alexl@mstdn.io
2021-03-29T21:25:40Z
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@hans_w @freemo Prompt treatment allows the infection to be cured, more and more effective therapies are created for each phase and prevention can do a lot.Not to mention the investments that should be made in the health system, which is grossly inadequate in all countries that have made cuts in public spending justified by the ghosts of inflation and public debt.Peddling experimental vaccines for virus that mutates a lot as a final solution is just marketing.
(DIR) Post #A5iMecpFyzaW7D7nZA by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:25:39Z
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@pthenq1 What are you talking about, it doesnt work like that anywhere in the world... I have lived in europe, and been in most countries in europe.. not once did I have to ever show proof I was vaccinated and even when i took jobs I was not required to show proof i wasvaccinated... again your talking out of your ass@TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iMndQ58ybAZ0e5R2 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T21:26:07Z
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@icedquinn Because the flu virus mutates a lot.COVID19 virus does not mutate so much (Compared with flu). But still it mutates a lot.Let's be all vaccinated and move on...@TruthAndFreedom @freemo
(DIR) Post #A5iMnduDKwhY4Sk9Oy by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:27:17Z
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@pthenq1 I was going to get vaccinated once it had the same safety as other vaccines.. but now that the vaccine passport is a thing I will absolutely refuse vaccination and encourage others do the same@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iMrKR3fWRmqLrbFY by meowski@fluf.club
2021-03-29T21:28:03.742292Z
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@icedquinn @pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo oh look it's this thread again how fun. yea coronaviruses are a common cold virus- and there has obviously never been an effective coronavirus vaccine either.i do also concur, i predict the covid vaccines will be a huge flop and epic fraud that makes billions.. trillions for big pharma whilst doing nothing but causing auto-immune disease for the suckers who fell for it
(DIR) Post #A5iMtODgZNo19wajB2 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T21:28:24Z
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@freemo you are saying what I am saying. All these variants are affected by current vaccine.Until now.It could stop being true if a variant mutates enough so that the vaccine is not more effective.And all the researchers are saying the same than me. All the vaccines are more or less effective to all the known variants. That could change. @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iN4SUl0x4RbXr31k by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-29T21:30:25.160624Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo are you willing to assume liability for the experimental vaccines?Norway just declared stoppage on AstraZenica and confirmed blood clot disorders were in fact vaccine induced.
(DIR) Post #A5iN7P36HcgPmlK2pE by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:30:51Z
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@pthenq1 It could stop being true if a variant mutates enough so that the vaccine is not more effective.No.. first off COVID does not mutate anymore than other vaccines we vaccinate against. There is absolutely 0 evidence to support the argument that we have to vaccinate quickly or else the virus will circumvent vaccinations. There is no evidence this virus is any more capable of that than other viruses, and this has not happened with any virus in the past.You literally fabricated a fear that has no scientific justification of any kind.@TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iNBlhA1l9nBC8qki by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T21:31:44.732769Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @TruthAndFreedom you are just a bootlicker. if you want real solutions then mandatory workouts would be more effective than vaccines, masks, and lockdowns combined.
(DIR) Post #A5iNC6gA0fpoGApqbo by khird@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:31:33Z
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@freemo [Here](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2021/03/29/p)'s the primary source:Relevant quotes:> [A] determination or development of a vaccine passport, or whatever you want to call it, will be driven by the private sector.> [T]here will be no centralized, universal federal vaccinations database and no federal mandate requiring everyone to obtain a single vaccination credential.It looks like it'll be up to the individual to prove he's vaccinated in some way that's acceptable to his school or employer - which is pretty much how measles or hepatitis or whatever already works. I don't think it's quite the cause for alarm it sounded like initially.
(DIR) Post #A5iND35gpuibQ9E3SC by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T21:30:41Z
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@icedquinn they are not effective but that virus mutates a lot. It is not the same that smallpox or covid.In fact the vaccine IS effective against the 4 or 6 flu variants they choose. The problem is that each year are dozens of new variants... @TruthAndFreedom @freemo
(DIR) Post #A5iND3WdDkGklhpZRo by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:31:38Z
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@pthenq1 Stop spreading the made up lie that the COVID virus "mutates a lot".. there is nothing remotely unusual about the rate the COVID virus mutates.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iNEKZBLcFXuUdDtI by khird@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:31:45Z
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@freemo Here’s the primary source:Relevant quotes: [A] determination or development of a vaccine passport, or whatever you want to call it, will be driven by the private sector. [T]here will be no centralized, universal federal vaccinations database and no federal mandate requiring everyone to obtain a single vaccination credential.It looks like it’ll be up to the individual to prove he’s vaccinated in some way that’s acceptable to his school or employer - which is pretty much how measles or hepatitis or whatever already works. I don’t think it’s quite the cause for alarm it sounded like initially.
(DIR) Post #A5iNFYj4BlJY79qBqi by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T21:32:21Z
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@freemo @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom That is no sense. If you believe the vaccine is effective, go ahead. Nothing changed.In any case, you deserve your decision is respected.And the Covid's vaccine is a need for some activities (as concerts and stuff like that).
(DIR) Post #A5iNPLsymaudBg9B4a by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:34:06Z
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@khird It is not how other vaccinations work.. As it stands right now outside of the nursing/medical field employers do not require proof of vaccinations. But yes it will be driven by the private sector and effectively support the idea of requiring this “passport” in order to enter a building (like if you want to go grovery shopping) and even mention of requiring it for flying.
(DIR) Post #A5iNSvnJjQI9QPCn4K by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-29T21:34:50.565138Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @TruthAndFreedom Paul and Faucis public fight was about this.They are trying to pivot a captive audience in to experimental vaccine customers while telling the same people if they are vaccinated they still have to social distance and mask.Basically, he is saying act as though they don’t work.That’s kinda not how people usually behave when effective vaccines are in the field :blobcatwaitwhat2:
(DIR) Post #A5iNavqfPlgZuQaT9U by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-29T21:36:17.167771Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo the refusal rates for this one are also significantly higher than in the past. Including fields that are openly favorable to it.Something is wrong.
(DIR) Post #A5iNcYZouRDqJQTwPo by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:36:29Z
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@pthenq1 No one has made a single science based argument as to why it should be required for **any** activity. If you want to be protected when you go to a concern, get a vaccine.. you dont need to make ME get a vaccine for that... The only way you were able to back up that nonsense is by making up some fantasy that is absolutely not backed by any data or science that COVID is unusually more likely to mutate and thus if everyone doesnt get vaccinated it will still put you at risk.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iNeUTF99GO9mKNpA by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T21:35:44Z
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@icedquinn they were not. But yeah. If the vaccine damage me, I will go to the court.Still I will get vaccinated. In case of lack of trust, the best is to be in a wait and see mode. I will get pfizer or moderna vaccine.@TruthAndFreedom @freemo
(DIR) Post #A5iNeUslcFgDQwGlbk by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-29T21:36:55.843775Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo Norway ruled they were. :comfysip:
(DIR) Post #A5iNnfiUhgYJdqq65o by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:38:31Z
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@pthenq1 You **Cant** go to court... thats part of why people are so mad, they made a law where the companies making the vaccines cant be sued since the safety tests were skipped (the companies didnt want to release the vaccines without the usual safety tests if they were liable).@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iOAuif5du4pf04um by pganssle@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:42:41Z
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@freemo I don’t think that’s right about this being the first vaccine in US history to bypass the last stage, considering that vaccination predates the existence of the FDA by over 100 years.
(DIR) Post #A5iOGBKWl7tbnVDvCC by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:43:41Z
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@pganssle You cant bypass a safety stage if the safety stage doesnt exist… that wouldnt be bypassing.
(DIR) Post #A5iOHOmoDO59ow24Bs by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T21:43:46Z
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@freemo 1 year ago the virus did not exist in humans.I feel that saying the virus will ever, EVERRR mutate is a bit optimistic.It did mutate! And jump from some animal to us.@TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iOMdS96zfAkxrebY by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:44:49Z
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@BrightStar Sorry but I cant support that message.. I have seen no evidence to suggests the vaccines are causing mass deaths either.
(DIR) Post #A5iOQh5VXVHxBjD8Iy by khird@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:45:32Z
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@freemo Off the top of my head, I was required to show measles, mumps, rubella, and hepatitis vaccines for my job (fluid dynamics research, has no medical relation at all). I didn’t have “passports” for any of those, but I think I got a doctor’s note? I might have just had to sign an affadvit or something; I’ve forgotten the details. And it’s an indirect requirement for many flights, at least internationally - because an airline won’t board you without a proper visa, and vaccines for things like yellow fever are widely (though not universally) required.About the only new thing here is the idea that a business might require its customers to show proof - I think that’s stupid, but hey let the free market show them when they lose the customers. Unless Biden starts requiring businesses to require their customers to show proof, I still think the alarm is unwarranted.
(DIR) Post #A5iOVozTaJPj96po3M by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T21:46:33Z
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@freemo do you have data to support your assertion?@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iOXtw4AcKt3tEP9E by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T21:46:57.218571Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @TruthAndFreedom You're a fucking liar. Respiratory viruses mutate ALL THE TIME. It's how they work, moron.
(DIR) Post #A5iOZHJkiomvrxy1Mu by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:47:02Z
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@pthenq1 Thats not entierly accurate interspecies jumps are an entierly different sort of process and while there is some mutations that often occur when it first lands in a new species it is not an indication that it readily mutates or that it will mutate to circumvent vaccinations.@TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iOZubqdTR5jNjWUK by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T21:47:18.590106Z
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@freemo @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 Some cases of flu are causes by coronavirus. Educate yourself.
(DIR) Post #A5iOdkNCdT8X8siBhg by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T21:46:06Z
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@ew it could be but they are not happening...Besides, the virus jumped to other animals too. So it is buffered. It will return if we do not get some vaccine. @TruthAndFreedom @freemo
(DIR) Post #A5iOdkn55FpwR8or2W by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T21:47:59.333137Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlDilY4lvRo
(DIR) Post #A5iOfwc85zsxgYk1qq by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T21:48:24.388342Z
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@pthenq1 @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom @freemo All respiratory viruses "mutate a lot", that's how they work. The 2019 strain was in NO WAY worse than previous years strains.You are full of shit. Shil.
(DIR) Post #A5iOhvGQ5QbW4qWvaa by pganssle@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:44:47Z
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@freemo Also worth noting that this is not exactly unprecedented, considering that many schools / school systems require up-to-date vaccinations for students.
(DIR) Post #A5iOhvxfUdCOEylT04 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:48:38Z
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@pganssle A bit different, schools requiring vaccinations has never been something that was enabled at the federal level. But I would absolutely have loved to see the schools that did require it get in trouble for that and would have opposed that as well.
(DIR) Post #A5iOkohYwPfsarbdFQ by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T21:49:17.093414Z
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@pthenq1 @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom @freemo You cannot go to court, idiot, they got TOTAL IMMUNITY.
(DIR) Post #A5iOlpMpx3WswpOTBo by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:49:22Z
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@khird This was in the USA? thats very interesting.. I have had so many jobs over the years and never once have I heard of such a thing… what state was this in?
(DIR) Post #A5iOrFkXI48EDd48mG by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:50:21Z
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@khird I dont even know what I would do.. like I know I had all my childhood vaccinations and when i was a kid there was records.. but now as an adult, no one has my medical records from 30 years ago.. im vaccinated and would have no way to prove it even if i wanted to.
(DIR) Post #A5iOtK0wPDJG1Zj37Q by swiley@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:45:49Z
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@pganssle @freemo Here in the US you have the option of homeschooling your kids.
(DIR) Post #A5iOtKSElj8zOEUqfI by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:50:41Z
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@swileyprivate schools almost never require vaccination data too.@pganssle
(DIR) Post #A5iOv1h5UUPbmhFgtE by pganssle@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:50:59Z
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@freemo It’s disingenuous to suggest that this is unprecedentedly unsafe considering it’s certainly safer than the amount and quality of testing done / required for a large fraction of the time we’ve been vaccinating people, and probably more than even the fairly recent past, given the safety ratchet that the FDA imposes (they almost always make the requirements more stringent, not the other way around).If you are going to engage in this sort of semantic argument, I’m going to have a hard time taking you seriously in the future.
(DIR) Post #A5iOyZoT5r2ITIOgwC by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:51:39Z
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@pthenq1 By your logic getting a vaccine wont help then, it will just mutate in a cow and then jump back to us..Again it doesnt work that way... jumping species is **not** an indication of mutations that can circumvent vaccinations.@ew @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iP0I0AHpNLoGgWsy by pganssle@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:52:02Z
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@freemo @swiley Similarly you can choose to not work at or patronize places that require a vaccine passport, no?
(DIR) Post #A5iP76Zt9shEPGe19k by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:53:12Z
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@BrightStar my response had nothing to do with the law, so not sure what your on about there.. as for what I know about the covid shot.. say what you will, I suspect you have no science training and believe in all sorts of conspiracy theories or some nonsense, so im not really that worried about your opinion unless you got something to convince me your credible and im mistaken.
(DIR) Post #A5iP8UQdy0OufUyqga by khird@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:53:33Z
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@freemo Ohio. I didn’t have to for my previous job in Pennsylvania though, as far as I remember.
(DIR) Post #A5iPKcVbkdCHCf5QpM by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:55:40Z
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@pthenq1 My assertion, you are the one asserting it is mutating and stands a greater risk than past viruses at mutating to circumvent our vaccines if we dont force everyone to take the drug now... YOU are the one who needs to backup that noise, not me.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iPMkEpz4DLksFu0u by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:56:06Z
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@mystik When did I say they never mutuate? seems not only are you the moron but you also cant read too well.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iPOdjN9L9u9SRRLs by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:56:25Z
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@mystik No wrong again .. you are thinking of the common cold not the flu.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iPPsqoQ3rVKpVy8e by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-29T21:56:41.790647Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @TruthAndFreedom “Pandemic requires everybody is vaccinated in planes, restaurants, etc. It is common sense.”Gotta be a bot. Who would think “common sense” is to “require” people to do anything.
(DIR) Post #A5iPRxTCDUcYEwSQjo by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T21:33:00Z
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@meowski 👀 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5iPXCQc1sfC52kSKe by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:57:56Z
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@mystik No they dont "mutate a lot".. The flu works largely through recombination (which isnt mutation in the common sense, and not something COVID is capable of)@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iPbi1oU1CJFDIbYG by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:58:45Z
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@mystik Sorry my last few replies I thought youw ere talking to me, I see now you were talking to the other guy.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iPdsyyj691nW0kNM by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T21:59:14.387626Z
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@freemo @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 Do you know how this app works?See who I was replying to.
(DIR) Post #A5iPiP7VBLKkd29VXE by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T22:00:02.700292Z
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@freemo @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 I read it somewhere, I'll get you a link.
(DIR) Post #A5iPpIjBLYBqpY4836 by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T22:01:16.261210Z
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@meowski @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @pthenq1 lol it'll never endhttps://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/right-now-scared-cdc-director-warns-impending-doom-covid-case-trajectory-video/
(DIR) Post #A5iPtRSkoOkp51M8ci by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:01:53Z
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@pganssle Huh? Normally vaccines go through a final stage of tests lasting a 1 - 3 years. This is the only way to have any idea of long term risk factors, there is no way to speed this up, and no amount of rigor circumvents it.This long-term phase is where all sorts of complications are caught that short term tests dont, most notably ADE. So effectively we are completely blind to whether or not in a year or two time ADE or other risk factors wont develop that we decided to just skip the test phase on.
(DIR) Post #A5iPtVIyWhJCzqoNw8 by meowski@fluf.club
2021-03-29T22:02:04.261807Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @TruthAndFreedom stfu boot licking trash person there is no pandemic. i do not consent to being experimented on. yeet yourself
(DIR) Post #A5iPwHhjY9JRgRiaPI by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:02:22Z
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@freemo I am sure it will not be required for all the activities. But for some.And the criteria will narrow when we know more about this virus. This is the 1st year we know it.Because of that, by definition everything is experimental. Everything is new and everything is on going research.We do not know if vaccinated people could infect no vaccinated people. That is the core of "keep using masks after you are vaccinated". We know that vaccinated people will not die of this and will not go to the hospital. Could they still carry the virus and infect others? We do not know. Studies are on the way.SOOOO they required masks and some industries require passports. That is a bias, because it is safer to have a false positive (aka: to assume people will infect, but they will not) than a false negative (aka: to assume people will not infect, but they will).We will results about that important questions in some weeks. It is an on going crisis. And nobody really knows enough about the virus. So the best it to have bias in the false positive side.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iPyEoJHRT9Hsj2xM by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:02:49Z
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@pganssleSure, in the same sense that during segregation black people could have always just go to a different resteraunt, or found a different bus… sorry but that logic is pretty horrific.@swiley
(DIR) Post #A5iQ0JaGVHssfg99TU by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T22:03:17.618539Z
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@freemo @TruthAndFreedom @icedquinn @pthenq1 Well, webmd.com agrees with you, they consider that influenza can only be caused by 3 types of influenza virus.More proof that virology is a joke. They contradict each other all the time.
(DIR) Post #A5iQ7N1K7qBbM9AQoy by meowski@fluf.club
2021-03-29T22:04:34.567177Z
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@ew @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @icedquinn @pthenq1 the chicken little bullshit never ends since people keep falling for it.
(DIR) Post #A5iQ7mZZ7fQmbaNdAG by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:04:33Z
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@khird so strange, i have never heard of any job doing that.. i believe you, but weird.
(DIR) Post #A5iQDcnEObSM0nYeiu by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:05:39Z
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@freemo it could but if less people (and cows) are infected, then there are less chances of mutations that turn the vaccine ineffective. That is why everybody in the world must get the vaccine ASAP.@ew @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iQFyD7jjKB15msiG by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T22:06:06.576480Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @TruthAndFreedom lmao you are such a retard
(DIR) Post #A5iQK9nwZZfc8I0RYu by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T21:55:44Z
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@freemo @swiley @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom Here you have a catalog of ALL the variants of COVID19. This virus mutates OK? And until know all of them still respond to the COVID19 vaccines. But it could change.So everybody have to get the vaccine (ideal scenario).https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global
(DIR) Post #A5iQKAEB02ebReHOS0 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:06:45Z
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@pthenq1 As I already stated that is in **no way** unusual for any virus, varients are very common. What you fail to realize is you are in **no way** showing any level of evidence that the virus is likely to or even capable of mutating in a way that would circumvent the vaccine.There are many viruses that mutate much like COVID does (which is not unusual) that have persisted in the environment for decades after the vaccine was created, and yet none of them, even after decades, were ever able to mutate to circumvent the vaccine. Like i said your talking out of your ass and making up a fear without any basis in reality.@swiley @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iQNfYCzucDScJxIm by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T22:07:30.969239Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @ew @TruthAndFreedom You don't even know what you're talking about, you're just pushing your vaccination agenda, stupid fucking faggot nigger, you deserve to die.
(DIR) Post #A5iQO6gI7y7jbVJI9I by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:07:11Z
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@freemo The risk with this virus is people no getting the vaccine. That could happen because lack of dosis or because political stands.It is a completely new scenario that did not exist before with other vaccines.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iQOqNQESMXKIps7k by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:07:25Z
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@mystik I already pointed out I was mistaken.. you can turn off the snarkyness now.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iQQYC4o6GpVoLJ9k by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:07:59Z
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@BrightStar sure, if you have peer-reviewed data ill be happy to review it.
(DIR) Post #A5iQRxf9bEDunBcG3c by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T22:08:17.093421Z
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@freemo @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 Sorry, but this pthenq1 shill makes my blood boil.
(DIR) Post #A5iQUrHzkieRtUAIwy by khird@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:08:47Z
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@freemo I guess. I thought it was normal, actually - just checked with my gf (also not in healthcare) and she had to as well.
(DIR) Post #A5iQV3p39eDqlTis8e by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T22:08:50.256796Z
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@mystik @freemo @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 europeans creep me out ngl
(DIR) Post #A5iQbrqO5Y2NdpatoO by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T22:10:04.210390Z
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@ew @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @pthenq1 He's south-american, therefore a nigger.
(DIR) Post #A5iQiDF7ROKlkLBhQG by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:11:06Z
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@mystik No they arent contradicting eachother, you just dont understand the language... types, strains, varients, and how they change is important here.Type A, B, and C flu **are** the three major categories.. however there are many varients of those that change season to season through recombination.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5iQwFTNwigUiWYNRg by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:13:43Z
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@freemo Every YEAR flu vaccines are redesigned for new flu mutations! So it is not true that vaccines are never changed.They could change each year (like in the flu case).@swiley @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iR1Ks5IobouLX3B2 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:14:33Z
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@pthenq1 Actually thats not true either, in fact the other way around to some degree. Its the same reason why if you antibiotics cause antibiotic resistant bacteria.. If you have vaccines they can give rise to vaccine resistant varients. Not that im saying COVID is likely to develop one, it isnt, but the act of vaccinating can cause the problem more so than not vaccinating at all, that is, if the virus is likely to mutate in that way at all.@ew @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iR7MHUyPZH1BI74i by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:15:39Z
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@pthenq1 No, there is no "risk" from not getting the vaccine except the risk an unvaccinated person takes upon themselves (of catching the virus).. those who take the vaccine will mitigate that risk if they want.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iR97Qp9enFXfUbFA by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:15:36Z
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@ew indeed.@TruthAndFreedom @freemo
(DIR) Post #A5iR982OtwqpQD4boW by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T22:16:04.116374Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo wtf do you mean "indeed" stop shilling a vaccine that is useless
(DIR) Post #A5iRDjrIE5tzsa4mCu by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:16:50Z
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@mystik He isnt a bad guy, he is generally polite and will engage respectfully, so I cant condone attacking him.. Dont get me wrong I do agree that he is flat out wrong, and highly biased (which ive seen in past discussions). But he has done nothing that would cause me to respect him less other than having a different opinion, which he is entitled to.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iRGFIcIkrByD3Hoe by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:17:17Z
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@khird what state was it that you and your GF had to do it? I'm really curious now...
(DIR) Post #A5iRHZJVNGI4Ki69aK by pganssle@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:17:22Z
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@freemo Sorry I engaged, if you are going to fight me on challenging your hyperbole with petty semantic arguments, I’m not especially interested in having the discussion.I was attempting to help you tone down your rhetoric by keeping it factual, but I don’t have time to try to litigate whether or not your misleading statements are technically true in some sense.
(DIR) Post #A5iRI4PxjIsKniMFSC by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T22:17:41.501434Z
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@freemo @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 We're in a global dictatorship and he's an enabler. Hard to defend such a piece of shit.
(DIR) Post #A5iRO6YOhVqZABBGWe by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:18:45Z
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@freemo Here is the proof the virus is mutatinghttps://nextstrain.org/ncov/globalAnd it is very likely COVID19 will not be like flu (regarding mutations and new vaccine race), but NOBODY KNOWS.And nobody knows because it is too new. They are studies on the way. And in the meantime it is better to assume it will and get as much people vaccinated as possible. Just in case.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iRUi3kAWwRDpzZfU by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:19:51Z
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@BrightStar You are thinking of the replication crisis and the number you cited is not correct when talking about all of peer-review, that figure is specific to psychology which is where the replication crisis is the biggest problem.Regardless of any number about what percentage has false data the problem is **not** using peer review has far more false data, so not really an argument to avoid it.
(DIR) Post #A5iRXcZB332R3S5Dea by khird@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:20:19Z
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@freemo Both Ohio
(DIR) Post #A5iRZbkR3u815zIRmK by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:20:31Z
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@pthenq1 NO!!! As I already pointe dout those are recombinations, not mutations in the sense you are thinking. COVID is not capable of recombination only certain viruses are (like the flu).@swiley @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iRbBaZIASuXlQx0K by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:21:01Z
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@khird I wonder if this is a state by state thing then.. I have never worked in ohio which may explain why i never experienced it.
(DIR) Post #A5iReUBqabUx6SRbQu by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:20:41Z
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@mystik we all do! :P@TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iReUYBFZMYDitRFA by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T22:21:43.894201Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew "We"?, no, my DNA doesn't have an agenda, except reproducing and going along with natural laws.You're sick in the head faggot.
(DIR) Post #A5iRfzo0WsHXRk0tKC by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:21:52Z
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@BrightStar Keep in mind you do not have to prove to me that I should be against the vaccine itself.. I am against it because it skipped safety checks as I said... you need to prove to me it is causing mass murder specifically.
(DIR) Post #A5iRhtTB3bjWNJAvEu by swiley@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:22:20Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom IIRC they even have some vector-like notation for describing this.
(DIR) Post #A5iRxjXNkiaGCih984 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:25:09Z
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@freemo I believe the virus will not mutate that much. But it is what I believe. We do not know.I believe current vaccines will be enough.@ew @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iRy1eQPGueNm81bc by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:25:14Z
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@pganssle Not even sure what your on about.. everything I mentioned can be backed up by peer reviewed papers and in fact a few weeks ago I already shared one such peer review paper elaborating on the fear of ADE with the COVID vaccine and that paritcular paper repeating the converns I mentioned.There is a reason so many people quit or protested from health organizations around the world but particularly in the USA when the safety measures were circumvented with countless doctors indicating mostly what I said, that the safety measures are there for a reason (and that vaccines are often canceled when they cant pass the long term safety)…No clue how what part your even objecting to to be honest, this is something plenty of scientists other than myself have repeated.
(DIR) Post #A5iS4nTHWbYWQq93Y0 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:26:25Z
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@pthenq1 Have you not listened to what I said.. when did I say it isnt mutating? What I said is that all viruses mutate and that it is no way an indication that the virus is capable of circumventing vaccines... all the viruses we vaccinate against continue to remain in wild populations, and continue to mutate yet none of them have ever spontaneously mutated passed vaccinations.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iS7RoYV81E8JMMTY by JackMeinoff@salesforce.social
2021-03-29T22:26:58Z
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@freemo @khird Measles was a HUGE problem in Ohio years ago... btw.
(DIR) Post #A5iS9KcCEseUNrTdxI by akeno@liberdon.com
2021-03-29T22:27:19Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom you are pathological liar https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/the-top-10-causes-of-death
(DIR) Post #A5iS9z3XscIPoGa38a by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:27:21Z
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@freemo Still we do not know when we will hit herd immunity. I am following Israel (because they are almost all of them vaccinated) and they are still not there. We will see.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iSFmJEBb9U0rg8vI by JackMeinoff@salesforce.social
2021-03-29T22:28:27Z
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@freemo @khird but 30-40 years. deadly, caused a lot of people to be unable to conceive - not good stuff. But! That's hardly standard procedure. I don't see why anyone couldn't have discriminated against you before if they deemed vaccines an essential workplace hazard avoidance.
(DIR) Post #A5iSGDdiZWaKmETO6q by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:28:29Z
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@pthenq1 There may not even be a herd immunity, which further dilutes the argument to force people to vaccinate.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iSKnpDycXMAA2aTQ by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:29:22Z
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@freemo it is ok. They are funny. You guys have to process better the disagreement. It is the base for a good digestion! lol@mystik @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iSPoXElTwJoR177A by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:30:15Z
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@freemo OKay@swiley @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iSZCOrPB3MQzZdrM by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:31:52Z
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@freemo perhaps @ herd immunity. We will see.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iShgwNjuPJTHIq8W by akeno@liberdon.com
2021-03-29T22:33:32Z
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@freemo @TruthAndFreedom Don't forget you covidiots caused this fascism wearing your slave muzzles and obeying tyranny👏
(DIR) Post #A5iSiBwSTft7cUZq3k by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:33:28Z
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@pthenq1 Yea too many unkowns to say either way.,@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iSjtKscqoQUdoKCe by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-03-29T22:33:56.400965Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @TruthAndFreedom Forced medication is literally a violation of Nuremberg. You can say it’s not forced, but if you allow employers to discriminate and remove all the protections of HIPPA, can you really say it’s not mandatory?The studies are questionable and incomplete. These are emergency use authorization vaccines. They are literally not approved and the FDA does not state they are proven to do anything at all. There are zero longitudinal studies and zero animal reproductive studies. One doctor already has his platelets drop to 0 and died 2 weeks after his second dose and a Utah woman under 40 died from liver failure after her second dose. The media and medical personal are saying there may not be a correlation/causation.This is not informed consent. This virus has a 99+% survival rate for those under 50. Medication should always be a choice.
(DIR) Post #A5iSlL3z1MlymIb6MS by akeno@liberdon.com
2021-03-29T22:34:12Z
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@freemo @TruthAndFreedom Don't forget you #covidiots caused this fascism wearing your slave muzzles and obeying tyranny👏
(DIR) Post #A5iSnihQ76fCfBBAjw by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:34:32Z
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@djsumdog Thats kinda how I see it.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iStwE0jqUeLkO8US by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:35:44Z
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@akeno Not sure what your talking about... I've been fairly unconvinced of the need for muzzles and largely been saying that while COVID is real, the fear is over hyped and the lockdowns excessive and harmful@TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iSxGU5s3lA3HUt9s by akeno@liberdon.com
2021-03-29T22:36:20Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @ew @TruthAndFreedom covid19 does not exist it was never isolated it's name of your mental fascistic illnesshttps://2020news.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Wodarg_Yeadon_EMA_Petition_Pfizer_Trial_FINAL_01DEC2020_EN_unsigned_with_Exhibits.pdf
(DIR) Post #A5iT91dWttSzTeWDZo by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T22:38:28.773045Z
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@akeno @pthenq1 @freemo @TruthAndFreedom never gonna end https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/biden-calls-reinstating-mask-mandates-says-shares-cdc-directors-sentiment-impending-doom-covid-pandemic-video/
(DIR) Post #A5iTBNyqnVGvM3cJ4y by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:38:53Z
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@akeno Ok thats just distilled idiocy and not remotely true, and im the one complaining about this mess. Please stop making people like me look like an idiot by agreeing with me and then saying dumb shit like that, thanks.@pthenq1 @ew @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iTQeT1mZVWpb0lSC by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:41:33Z
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@BrightStar I've dont many many hours of research. I used to work professionally doing data analysis on disease proliferation, so this is a field im a bit of an expert in.. trust me, im pretty good on the research side... As i said more than happy to consider whatever peer reviewed high quality research you have to add, though good chance I've already seen it.
(DIR) Post #A5iTepLe7ktCdFJmU4 by Gray14@shitposter.club
2021-03-29T22:44:14.370992Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom You're a clown, you can't make an argument longer than one or two sentences, everyone who has the same talking points as you never has to cite data or present any coherent argument, they just rehash whatever slogan campaign the media is currently running.
(DIR) Post #A5iTgrfWT1eiPNaQxU by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:44:29Z
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@BrightStar I am aware of the argument and real evidence it draws on... however your conclusion is, as I said, incorrect. The replication crisis is largely focused on the psychology sector and does not apply so much when we talk about peer-reviewed papers in other sectors. Moreover, as a I said the number of "incorrect facts" in non-peer reviewed sources is generally much much higher.
(DIR) Post #A5iTiDmriVRNITfU48 by khird@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:44:38Z
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@freemo could be - I don't *remember* it coming up when I worked in Pennsylvania, but I can't guarantee it didn't. In any case, if I had to show immunity to MMR, hep, *and covid* the difference is too insignificant to bother me much.Thanks for discussing this civilly, by the way - I know that *should* be the norm among adults, but it's unfortunately not that common in practice.
(DIR) Post #A5iTq0r9g2rVVeOEJE by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:46:07Z
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@khird i do agree that adding one more disease to a list for a immunity check that already exists is minor.. with that said I'd argue even the existing immunity checks should be abolished and, at least from my expiernce, extremely rare.The big issue here is that it seems to be supported by the federal government and may even bleed over to things like obtaining flights.
(DIR) Post #A5iTtXeIDBhQ5B3YAK by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:36:38Z
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@djsumdog You can rest assured that the scenario you are painting is far of what everybody want.I work under HIPPA. It is safe and sound.The vaccine passport is a document they will give you and could be useful for several things. For example, traveling abroad (they are countries that mandate forced quarantine if you go there). If Uncle Sam provides you a document, you could choose to show it.The vaccine is still voluntary and it will be voluntary forever. Nobody wants to change that.@TruthAndFreedom @freemo
(DIR) Post #A5iTtY22mshLGqAWBc by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-03-29T22:46:53.241499Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo HIPPA is not safe an sound. I also am deeply familiar with HIPPA as I worked in health insurance (both private and Medicare) for several years. HIPPA has been torn apart state by state. Multiple states force all COIVD-19 positive tests to be reported to law enforcement with peoples’ names and addresses and they’ve passed laws saying this doesn’t violate HIPPA. That’s. Fucking. Insane.Vaccines have always been voluntary before entering nations, and required only for immigration. This is the first time we’ve seen a serious change in that and it should frighten people.It’s not just inter-country travel. Lawmakers are talking about preventing people from going into move theatres, sporting events and concert venues unless they take an experimental medication. Since when has any private institution required people to take medication, much less an unapproved and experimental one, to participate in some entertainment event?This is pure madness and a complete and total violation of individual rights. What happened to “My body my choice?”Remember DDT is perfectly safe. It’s approved by the government .. oh wait .. well no worries, Vioxx is totally safe and effective. It has full FDA appro- oh wait. But don’t worry, this time it’s safe and effective. We promise. It says so on the label. We never get things like this wrong…except the dozens of times we did.
(DIR) Post #A5iTuA35RS6xB4wt5U by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:46:55Z
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@BrightStar > Again, I must stress that the pier review process produces scientific papers with 50% false results...And as I said that is completely incorrect, the replication crisis is limited mostly to psychology and thus as a general statement that is completely false. Full stop.
(DIR) Post #A5iTx96hOpvN7r3su0 by akeno@liberdon.com
2021-03-29T22:47:31Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 @ew @TruthAndFreedom You are professional liar you spread lies about masks being effective, same lockdowns, distancing. stop lying you forgot your posts are public! everyone can pull it up. You filthy liar. Next time you say you were saying covid wasn't real everything you said about covid was a lie, you fucking twisted lying satanic collaborator. You will be executed for crimes against humanity you collaborated on. your time will come.
(DIR) Post #A5iUYPMruBQ6GwOPoW by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:54:10Z
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@BrightStar Not true.. if a scientist would argue that peer review causes 50% false review it wouldn't be passing peer review since the scientists claiming that are the same scientists replicating results. The replication crisis is the concern you are describing and was checked in some detail, and the results do **not** show an across the board 50% error rate.Presuming you are pulling from the actual numbers on the matter, and not some conspiracy theory nonsense, you are likely thinking of the poll where scientists said that 70% of them failed to reproduce an experiment **at least once**... they did **not** say they fail to reproduce experiments 50% of the time.
(DIR) Post #A5iUZ4HdmWbFAbGJrE by inky@writing.exchange
2021-03-29T22:54:15Z
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@freemo Additionally, wouldn't this violate HIPPA laws?
(DIR) Post #A5iUiYXEg0SBbF54ng by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:55:49Z
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@inky It should, but its a bit of a loophole so likely wont.
(DIR) Post #A5iUrbaqfvgDgu5Nom by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T22:57:38Z
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@BrightStar sure, feel free to walk away, only reason i bothered to respond to your conspiracy theory idiocy is because you popped into **my** feed.Please feel free to shut up and walk away, I assure you I have **no** reason to ever communicate with you unless the time comes I get the unlikely urge to want to get dumber.
(DIR) Post #A5iUtq6rftHrIA7tse by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2021-03-29T22:58:08.873441Z
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@inky @freemo During the pandemic, state legislatures have slowly been eroding HIPPA or passing acts claiming certain types of reporting don’t violate it.
(DIR) Post #A5iVMFe4KNCcb6Cmci by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:21:26Z
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@mystik 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iVMG7UYyjq4LyHU8 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:23:08Z
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@mystik you were never in the south, weren't?I mean, the real south, no the one with Sherman's neckties :awesome: @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iVMGXizRipNiFENE by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T23:02:36Z
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@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew It was great to chat with you guys. Here is a few donut for you all! :awesome: https://www.krispykreme.com/promos/sweetsupport
(DIR) Post #A5iVMGu3ePaQUyh4BU by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:03:15.123865Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/exclusive-per-cdc-data-nearly-twice-many-vaccine-related-deaths-far-2021-1755-vaccine-deaths-past-decade-994/
(DIR) Post #A5iVOpxQI5klnSUV0K by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:03:37Z
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@djsumdog dj: "That would violate my rights to privacy and is wrong"pthenq: "Dont they already violate your rights? thats why its ok if they violate it some more"@inky
(DIR) Post #A5iVlHelzDwA4iTGC0 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T23:06:20Z
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@mystik It make sense. Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are new technology.I would say that if someone want to get vaccinated and are still afraid, try with the Johnson & Johnson or AstraZeneca (false alarm at trombosis) vaccines.Those vaccines are classic vaccines. Old fashion vaccines for COVID19. In fact Johnson & Johnson vaccine have fantastic metrics.@TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iVlI64LjltRNF3js by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:07:46.317300Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew You are a fantastic idiot.https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/experimental-vaccine-death-rate-for-israels-elderly-40-times-higher-than-covid-19-deaths-researchers
(DIR) Post #A5iVlYCgSuZNOWSZGq by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:07:46Z
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@pthenq1 though still circumvented all the usual required long term safety tests mind you.@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iVrBcHMBPf4y7R7R by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T23:08:40Z
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@freemo yep. Those test are 3 years long. So ALL the vaccines have provisional authorization.@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iVsa1m58uH4wi0nY by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T23:09:06.319638Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @mystik @TruthAndFreedom troll
(DIR) Post #A5iVvuDxRr3OaNzeO8 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:09:38Z
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@pthenq1 correct (though even a year of testing at this scale would be something)... my advice is unless you are at unusually high risk, dont vaccinate for one yar then reasses@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iWBPWzKeHm1hHuyG by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T23:10:30Z
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@mystikFor old people the best ones are AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson. The last one is authorized and available.100% dosis will not be due until 2023 minimum because studies are 3 years long (as fast, they could last longer). @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iWBPxviTpvNFtQxs by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:12:30.079493Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew You are trying to kill more people, aren't you?Karma is a bitch, you know?
(DIR) Post #A5iWFd8agYRhNtt8Jk by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:13:17.175141Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @ew Don't ever vaccinate.There is a cure for common cold and flu (aka "covid") and it's called "hydroxychloroquine", stop risking people to suffer a stroke.
(DIR) Post #A5iWGdCHwuF7rK5xgm by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:13:23Z
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@mystik I know we are on a similar side of the issue and all but maybe try being a scootch less melodramatic?@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iWOOb47IrctSO2aW by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:14:46Z
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@mystik Ok no.. there are treatments that have made treating it a little better. No guaranteed cures and that one certainly not.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iWXHdbMNHrusoLXU by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T23:14:55Z
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@mystik On the contrary. My parents are already vaccinated. They are 90+ yo. They got the first dosis. They are OK.At the same time, if someone refuse the vaccine... all good. It is voluntary.@TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iWXI5FhZPBIdkQdc by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:16:23Z
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@pthenq1 Most people who get the vaccine will be fine. If there are medical issues we wont see it for many months down the line@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iWZnIkbdIihOFthI by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T23:16:01Z
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@mystik hydroxychloroquine is toxic. @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iWZnhD8grnvFhQp6 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:16:40Z
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@pthenq1 so is this thread :)@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iWaKyjOZUP999ODI by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:17:01.471157Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew Water is toxic, you're just a troll.
(DIR) Post #A5iWiY5OXuG67DBOlc by iankenway@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:18:27Z
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@freemo Having just received my second Pfizer vaccination yesterday morning, after my first one three weeks ago, I share many of your concerns (Interestingly, by way of an aside, why is the roll-out on this remote Greek island more efficient tha Germany or the UK?)See:Ten reasons why immunity passports are a bad ideahttps://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01451-0Ironically, Symi only had one case of confirmed Covid until ten days ago (a Belgian tourist last September), but now a local family is in quarantine and all contacts are being traced. How did this happen? Because a policeman illegally visited another island. And the vector of transmission? Basket ball!
(DIR) Post #A5iWk7XQDnJUME2eQ4 by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:18:48.097846Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @ew This is an idiotic comment.Risking permanent paralysis over a fucking flu.
(DIR) Post #A5iWqvsbxt0YE9CX2G by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:20:01.268231Z
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@freemo @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @ew 🤡https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/hydroxychloroquine/
(DIR) Post #A5iWuq05lYmf9QYvIG by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T23:20:38Z
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@freemo It is not toxic this thread!We used (long time ago) to share different opinions about stuff without going cuckoo.I feel nobody want to hurt anyone in this thread. So whatever we believe is not part of a horrible project, etc.@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iWw2rrPZlNLcHuNM by HiroProtagonist@noagendasocial.com
2021-03-29T23:20:53Z
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@pthenq1 "Build a model if you do not like current models"LOL Build your own country @freemo @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iWxx8FhuzM8crfJA by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:21:12Z
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@mystik I have seen no good evidence to suggest the vaccine causes paralysis in the short term. Any short term health concerns from the vaccine of any significant concern are very unlikely or nonexistant.The risks are simply long-term unknowns, not short term risks, those are mostly accounted for.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iX2nBU7XpSjWgTzs by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:22:10.160298Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @TruthAndFreedom @ew You're trying to hurt innocent people who can't interpret the information that YOU KNOW contradicts your official narrative.You're as guilty as Bill Gates and pieces of shit alike.
(DIR) Post #A5iX2nylALFDCLjpnk by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:22:05Z
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@pthenq1 The interactionb etween me and you has not been toxic.. but people have told you to kill yourself, die or worse a few times, I'd say that is pretty toxic@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iX6vlU9yjkVJUqeW by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T23:22:52Z
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@freemo yes @ vaccine risks.Same with the virus. We are bias. We associate COVID with effects similar to flu because both attack breathing system.But we do not know the long effects of covid. If any.@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iXDaRZpVD2PAMHSa by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:23:59Z
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@pthenq1 COVID is about 10x worse than the flu.. not the end of the world, but bad enough to take seriously.@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iXEmz8ge1dagd82y by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T23:24:08Z
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@freemo well. I have a thick skin...@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iXRfAP4BC36i2OOW by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:26:39.258954Z
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@freemo @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iXWSZVK2kBUZ48Fk by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T23:27:31.942388Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 @mystik @TruthAndFreedom you can't prove that either are dangeroushttps://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lawrence-solomon/death-by-influenza_b_4661442.html
(DIR) Post #A5iXgSVMQRp4BFtZs8 by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:29:20.440339Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @ew No, it's not, stop lying.
(DIR) Post #A5iXjug48XXaQQY9Gi by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:29:51Z
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@mystik What about it? My shit was green the day after I went on mastodon for the first time.. therefore mastodon makes your shit green I guess.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iXq3PEb5SdEYbaQi by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T23:29:23Z
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@mystik Well. In my case, I try to believe and interpret stuff based on data.There is not data to not get vaccinated (in general), because the long term covid will be probably worst than the long term effect of any vaccine.If we talk about specific vaccines. Yes: Pfizer and Moderna are new technologies.There are more classic approach: Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca.And still there is the option of not getting a vaccine.All of them have consequences. It is not an easy decision.My old family was vaccinated. I will be vaccinated soon. I am just saying I trust the vaccines more than the virus. In short and long term.All is voluntary. So we can do basically whatever each of us want.@TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iXq3pp0EjCZ12os4 by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:31:03.446969Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew >the long term covid will be probably worstYou are an idiot. Permanent paralysis is permanent paralysis, what part of it is "better" than having a cold?At this point in time the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that it's not just a cold/flu. And it fucking is!
(DIR) Post #A5iXuBwkmkNqseFyDY by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:31:44Z
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@mystik huh? that chart doesnt even compare mortaility rate of the common flu to covid.. its showing overall deaths not deaths due to covid or the flu specifically... Happy to consider your points but you really need to know how this stuff works first and how to do analysis.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iY7j391J0zJQhQA4 by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:34:15.325497Z
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@freemo @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @ew Imagine if we had a country that didn't freak out with the supposed terrible "pandemic" and just carried on with their normal activities, like every year.. WE COULD KNOW IF IT REALLY IS WORSE THAN THE FLU!Oh, wait, we have that data, it's Sweden.Now fuck off.
(DIR) Post #A5iYBKLcnrIfrK3pQW by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T23:34:55.735297Z
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@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 i've never seen someone seriously reply to that article bet he'll avoid it
(DIR) Post #A5iYSGNMp8aMSmx2v2 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:37:55Z
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@mystik You clearly have no idea how data science works at all... @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iYhX3x44kIYo9PdI by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:40:31Z
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@ew Its pretty easy to respond to really. Neither I nor most data scientists rely on CDC data at all. It is one tiny blip across countless data sets and only when they all agree do we draw conclusions from it.@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iYhujZ3WhLyWnTBg by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T23:34:53Z
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@mystik paralysis is worst.Now, let's assume paralysis is possible with the vaccines. Mr. Biden said 100+ million doses were delivered.If paralysis is the outcome of the vaccine then we will see a lot of that in the news and the street. Even if we are talking about 3% of people having paralysis, then there will be 3 million people paralyzed and they will be on the news all day.That is not the case. So at least n that, vaccine are safe.@TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iYhv9RVJOlGmu8WW by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:40:47.972029Z
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@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew >we will see a lot of that in the newsNo, you won't.Youareanidiot.
(DIR) Post #A5iYlfmoZYk6m56r6O by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T23:41:28.804401Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 you didn't read the article.
(DIR) Post #A5iYuxOGUTM1yk3No0 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:43:01Z
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@ew sorry to disappoint your psychic abilities but I sure did. In fact its a rather old article and isnt even the first time I came across it@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iZ0eKwFDRKceDD84 by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T23:44:11.195154Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 Even that 500 figure for the U.S. could be too high, according to analyses in authoritative journals such as the American Journal of Public Health and the British Medical Journal. Only about 15-20 per cent of people who come down with flu-like symptoms have the influenza virus -- the other 80-85 per cent actually caught rhinovirus or other germs that are indistinguishable from the true flu without laboratory tests, which are rarely done. In 2001, a year in which death certificates listed 257 Americans as having died of flu, only 18 were positively identified as true flus. The other 239 were simply assumed to be flus and most likely had few true flus among them."U.S. data on influenza deaths are a mess," states a 2005 article in the British Medical Journal entitled "Are U.S. flu death figures more PR than science?" This article takes issue with the 36,000 flu-death figure commonly claimed, and with describing "influenza/pneumonia" as the seventh leading cause of death in the U.S."But why are flu and pneumonia bundled together?" the article asks. "Is the relationship so strong or unique to warrant characterizing them as a single cause of death?"The article's answer is no. Most pneumonia deaths are unrelated to influenza. For example, "stomach acid suppressing drugs are associated with a higher risk of community-acquired pneumonia, but such drugs and pneumonia are not compiled as a single statistic," explained Dr. David Rosenthal, director of Harvard University Health Services. "People don't necessarily die, per se, of the [flu] virus -- the viraemia. What they die of is a secondary pneumonia."
(DIR) Post #A5iZ6t1qX57HvVFvbE by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:45:14Z
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@ew Are you asking me a question?@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iZAH5fWox7QAewiG by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T23:45:56.017134Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 unbelievable, you won't even read it when I paste it to you
(DIR) Post #A5iZUQoX5NyPN0FuXw by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:49:28Z
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@ew What the fuck are you on about.. I read it, why are you pretending to be psychic and telling me what I did and did not read... I asked you if you are asking me a question about what you posted. Are you trying to ask **me** while they are bundled, you seemed to answer your own question so im asking what are you asking me? Or are you going to deflect again and tell me I didnt read ?@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iZeRogDK4vNI6IUa by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:51:22.617147Z
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@ew @freemo @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @pthenq1 Forget about this guy, he just stated that partial numbers don't affect total numbers.We're dealing with dishonest retards here, he won't read or understand anything.This is the ultimate black pill, bro. We're not gonna win, because this is a dishonest retarded world.
(DIR) Post #A5iZk6jrUdmZjzXuDI by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:52:19Z
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@mystik Nice try but I said nothing of the sort, try learning to read and you wont look like an idiot next time.@ew @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iZshNd93hNhOFB3o by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T23:53:57.189767Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 36,000 flu deaths in 2001 was actually 500, but it was actually 18 deaths. what exactly does "10x more deadly than the flu" even mean? where did all the flu deaths go? why has the flu been eradicated? what is the replication crisis and why are 70% of all studies false?
(DIR) Post #A5iZxxpvO82EBXzNQG by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:54:54.682708Z
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@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @ew @freemo @pthenq1 Dishonest ones? That collaborate with mass extermination programs, like these do? Well, it's a matter of species preservation.
(DIR) Post #A5ia7vWopBxNvFnqRU by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:56:36Z
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@ew As I stated before your talking about a data set that I didnt een use to come up with the figure I stated.. so any inaccuracies in it really isnt relevant to the assertion in the first place, im not using the source your accusing, so its moot.Second, the number of cases are irrelevant, my statement is about your chance of survival if you catch the diseases (mortality rate) and therefore is uneffected by the number of people in the general population who get the diseases.Third, when calculating mortality to ensure we get utmost accuracy we use a more restrictive dataset that only inclues the people who are actually tested to ensure we are measuring influenza or covid.@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iaCkIe03HMXsTFMO by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:57:29Z
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@cowanon What the fuck are you talking about.. I literally opposed Biden the whole election and pointed out his inappropriate touching of children on several occasions.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @mystik @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iaClMw1aIzrTUBge by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-29T23:57:35.238489Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 10x 18 people is 180 deaths>when calculating mortality to ensure we get utmost accuracyyour anecdotal science is bullshit that can't accurately predict anything.
(DIR) Post #A5iaKxXSf4ZPvEJlce by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-29T23:59:00Z
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@ew Taking large samples of people and testing them to objectively verify how many have the disease, then track who survives is not anecdotal, that would be the exact opposite of anecdotal actually.@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iaODfb8t6Uoxg7Lk by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-29T23:59:39.517707Z
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@freemo @ew @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 THERE IS NO RELIABLE TESTS, IT'S FANTASY LAND.
(DIR) Post #A5iaU05WYIYkR2YsSm by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:00:42.184820Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 it is not objective, it is anecdotal research, and 70% of studies are false. the overall death rate has not budged. you have not addressed a single point I've made you have just been telling me to believe in your culthttps://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2021/01/has-covid-led-to-increase-in-all-cause.html
(DIR) Post #A5iagqQHnY8WDwOhKy by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:02:55Z
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@ew Umm ok, I guess that explains why "no one ever debunked your link"... apparently lots of people do you just pretend like they didnt and then go one some tantrum that makes no sense... cool seems we are at an impasse then, im not sure your capable of understanding why your wrong no matter what I say.@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iakBDKxBm3ZivmOO by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-29T22:45:42Z
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@Gray14 I try to base my thinking in data. No sure to follow what you are saying though.@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom @freemo
(DIR) Post #A5iakBhT99sR5B1qMK by Gray14@shitposter.club
2021-03-30T00:03:37.796191Z
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@pthenq1 @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom @freemo I've read through all your posts in this thread, you ask for data and evidence which other posters provide, while pulling random theories and numbers out of nothing, aside for the one obvious source on virus mutation which no-one disputes. You've made assertions about the origins of covid-19 with no evidence, you've made pseudo-scientific analogies to viruses being similar to species of animals, on the one hand you claim there is no consequence to getting a vaccine but you also seem to imply everyone who isn't going to get vaccinated is below your own brand of intellectualism. Therefore open to any and all consequence for their choices, sane people don't even go that far over terrorism.
(DIR) Post #A5ialgC9Fl59wy5dx2 by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:03:53.892823Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 you have yet to rebuke a single point I've made so far, you just go "we analyzed the data hurr durr"
(DIR) Post #A5ib3Zo5k5NjLnN6Yq by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:07:01Z
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@ew No thats not what I said... I will repeat the rebuke a second time since your too emotional to see it..All your concerns and the link were directed at the CDC's data set.. true or not, I (and the scientists I trust) did not use the data set or the process you accused of being inaccurate. Therefore I was able to arrive at my conclusion without any of your concerns being relevant since they apply to a data set I did not use.There, now understand why your point was so easily dismissed? Or are you still going to pretend you dont understand why your whole argument and the article has no relevance to my statement?@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5ibBLbKRXZJbn6iaO by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T00:08:31.834706Z
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@freemo @ew @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 >and the scientists I trustCULT.Dude, you can't logic. Just admit it. You're member of a cult.
(DIR) Post #A5ibESJFxQn1Hd8ViC by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:09:05.944171Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 how do you get a dataset that proves someone would have died specifically due to the cold and not the flu or tripping down stairs
(DIR) Post #A5ibYvD6DOski110nQ by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:12:42Z
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@ew by using tests that are able to determine if they have the disease combines with the circumstances of the death which tends to involve a second test to show the viral load had increased since the first, and by monitoring symptoms...When someone is in the ICU from falling down th steps they will have very different symptoms then if they are there because the virus has progressed, the viral load will also be different.@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5ibfT8B0oBNeJpoUS by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:13:57.661953Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 the inventor of those tests says you are full of shithttps://nationalfile.com/inventor-of-pcr-test-said-fauci-doesnt-know-anything-and-is-willing-to-lie-on-television/
(DIR) Post #A5ibrKXmlQOKUaT8wy by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:16:00Z
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@cowanon We could certainly go into the details of any one data set, the processes are well documented with good reason. But that is outside the scope of what was being asked. Ew listed a very specific set of concerns taken from a specific article that criticizes one specific data set. That was debunked quickly by showing my conclusions were unrelated from the data set being referenced.. so anything else is a tangent to that, one im fine going on, but only once everyone involved understands and admits why my response invalidates the link as relevant to my assertion.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @mystik @ew
(DIR) Post #A5ibzmXuXLqLeiYdtY by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:17:39.084569Z
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@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 "trust the science except for all the scientists we censor and strip of their licenses"
(DIR) Post #A5ic1JVjSZY2BTGkBk by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T00:17:55.468228Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @ew You're full of shit. You know tests are worth nothing. You know that the policy is everywhere count each and every death by default as a "covid" death. You're so full of shit, you're being accomplice of crimes against Humanity, and you'll pay for it, sooner or later.
(DIR) Post #A5ic4Ck750PU3uNFxI by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:18:21Z
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@ew There are countless different types of tests that can be employed, I did not state what test was used, which shows why you are not a reliable person to discuss this with. Instead of **asking** what test was used and the reliability of the test you just cherry picked some noise about some random test without any understanding if it was even the test involved in the analysis I described.. can you not see how that makes you an unreliable source of any judgement on this?@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5ic7CmLP0iF2gqfFw by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:18:58.903007Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 care to comment on the credibility of medical science? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis
(DIR) Post #A5icB7VOwyXvqVn45I by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:19:35Z
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@ew Already did, in fact **I** brought up the replication crisis first in this thread about an hour ago.. nice try though.@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5icCqgQSvwUFglsci by Gray14@shitposter.club
2021-03-30T00:20:01.588355Z
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@mystik @freemo @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @pthenq1 I'm not going to get into the intricacies of this but scientists shouldn't just be trusted, they should have to prove to me why I should trust their data, studies or experiments in easily accessible papers, written up without all the scientific jargon used to shield themselves from most public discourse. The entire belief of trusting scientists contradicts the scientific method. I know most of these academics never will though, if you interact with them or attend a university you'll quickly find they seem to view most of the population as subhumans.
(DIR) Post #A5icD63fIoRbw6l9Qe by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:20:03.959905Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 so you DO know you are full of shit, okay I'm out then
(DIR) Post #A5icIbxo6cy8KyeImO by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:20:59Z
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@ew Nope, replication crisis is largely contained to psychology (youd know that if you read the link you posted)... it doesnt apply to science in general.@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5icM1Ma7x9tyurZBo by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:21:39.865850Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 you don't read anything. "The replication crisis most severely affects the social sciences and medicine."
(DIR) Post #A5icPKKC5M3XesK3Qe by runfox@pleroma.runfox.tk
2021-03-30T00:22:02.742681Z
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@cowanon @ew @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 only trust the science when it benefits big pharma
(DIR) Post #A5icVpV75PFK5RWxto by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:23:22Z
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@ew From the article in the section about medicine:"Out of 49 medical studies from 1990–2003 with more than 1000 citations, 45 claimed that the studied therapy was effective. Out of these studies, 16% were contradicted by subsequent studies, 16% had found stronger effects than did subsequent studies, 44% were replicated, and 24% remained largely unchallenged.["In other words only 16% of studies couldnt be replicated, and 84% of them could either be replicated, or the final results agreed with the study and the study actually **downplayed** their results such that it showed a greater success rate than claimed...@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5ica4q7zxKGomNxfU by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:24:13.157233Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 I already said I'm done w/ you. there's more than one study on the replication crisis. go hit the treadmill you fucking weirdo
(DIR) Post #A5iciGl3ZR7869v5I8 by runfox@pleroma.runfox.tk
2021-03-30T00:24:39.621683Z
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@cowanon @ew @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 looks kikish
(DIR) Post #A5icjqhZPyYTrj2gSm by toiletpaper@shitposter.club
2021-03-30T00:25:59.407939Z
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@freemo @ew @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 On the psychology thing, this is an amusing/poignant comparison of the scientific relevance of parapsychology versus psychology research.https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/04/28/the-control-group-is-out-of-control/
(DIR) Post #A5icotJH9G6JP15CYC by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:26:45Z
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@cowanon Man you have a stroke or something since we used to chat.. you got a hell of a lot stupider siince then. You used to be able to hold a decent conversation, now you just got noise@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @mystik @ew
(DIR) Post #A5icuMnovGxgJuysj2 by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T00:27:52.775433Z
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@freemo @ew @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5icwWIwZ7sqMxZ7Ca by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:28:08Z
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@ew cool, feel free to go away then, all the braincells of all the people in this thread will be happy for that... bye dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5id1FmrP8uSaaoe0m by swiley@qoto.org
2021-03-29T21:42:49Z
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@khird @freemo I have never had to prove I was vaccinated for anything (and I had all my vaccines as a kid) for any company I’ve worked for. Requiring drugs in order to be employed is insane.
(DIR) Post #A5id1GGdcQjG4wkQQS by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T00:29:07.419864Z
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@swiley Submit. You will be assimilated. Or you will starve.@khird @freemo
(DIR) Post #A5id2XyfG5t1IMxCW8 by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T00:29:21.563690Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @ew Go vaccinate yourself and get yours.
(DIR) Post #A5id3AiNEb1pR8dF2W by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:29:23Z
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@toiletpaper Agreed, the replication crisis says a lot about the various disciplines and the challenges they face regarding objectivity and reproducibility.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @mystik @cowanon @ew
(DIR) Post #A5idQ50Cdh1sNdtWyW by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:33:36.246722Z
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@cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5idbw2llyo44RkSWG by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:35:38Z
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@ew I thought you were done with me... I see your not the brightest bulb in the batch, tagging me is the exact opposite of "being done with me". I think what you meant is "I will now have a temper tantrum and go full snowflake because facts make me mad"@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iddfg9aUt5tZzvGK by PestToast@paypig.org
2021-03-30T00:36:03Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew @freemo "We used (long time ago) to share different opinions about stuff without going cuckoo."Then we got to the point where violent communists started burning cities and the entire media establishment either pretended it wasn't happening or tried to spin it as a good thing, and people just sort of stopped trusting them. Curious.
(DIR) Post #A5idgABL9JL14tm0Fk by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:36:30.761226Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 >untag me right now REEEEEEE
(DIR) Post #A5idufhKlo6GsSekQy by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:39:02Z
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@ew Huh? I dont care in the least if you tag me. Just pointing out what an idiot you look like saying your done talking to me then proceeding to continue to talk to me.@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5idwVkSjWL6bAzr8a by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:39:28.257505Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 I didn't reply to you queer
(DIR) Post #A5ie8Ihv2reVcyQeA4 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:41:29Z
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@ew Yea you've replied to me several times actually. I know reality is tricky for you, but your actually replying to me right now, just like you did in the previous message, and many times before that.You are like biden, you barely even know where you are or what your doing, HA!@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5ieBwZZHdG28WGAWO by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:42:15.269740Z
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@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 you're finally right for once, blocked
(DIR) Post #A5ip9sqYt8RbRvxxb6 by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T00:46:40.220393Z
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@ew @freemo @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @mystik @pthenq1 Iirc the big replication crisis isn’t as much in medicine (although there have been some), but rather in social psychology. I read Andrew Gelman’s blog and have been reading it for years (long before ‘rona), and I never saw the absolutely stunning levels of failure of replication that were being found in social psych.I think it’s something like 80% of results in social psychology were failing to replicate.http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/unpublished/p_hacking.pdf
(DIR) Post #A5ip9tKh56XyxO41Z2 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:47:40Z
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@negi Exactly what I told them... but they lost their shit... best to ignore them they dont really have a grasp on reality@pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5ip9tlHUFoYHqVG0O by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T00:51:21.653410Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom idk if he doesn’t want to listen 2 u or doesn’t agree thats his prerogative. losing ur temper is never gonna convince anyone of anything
(DIR) Post #A5ip9uB9w2Vxa6bvLE by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:53:49.881098Z
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@negi @freemo @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @mystik @pthenq1 it's because you are both simply wrong, a quick search will show the impact of the replication crisis on pharmaceuticals
(DIR) Post #A5ip9uZyRmMcp4Dk1I by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T00:54:32.817492Z
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@ew @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 I’m open to the possibility. Show me. =]
(DIR) Post #A5ip9uzUusmS6EA7ns by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:55:09.855172Z
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@negi @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 literally the first result on ddghttps://www.castoredc.com/blog/replication-crisis-medical-research/
(DIR) Post #A5ip9vNFUZmNHtH5pA by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T00:56:39.103586Z
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@ew @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 No offense dude but this is an advertisement. I’m asking for some kind of article with numbers.
(DIR) Post #A5ip9vzBDY7XBX1Nwm by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:57:44.240184Z
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@negi @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 no offense, but it has sources you fag.
(DIR) Post #A5ip9wD0O9BBsPUQUq by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T00:57:20.684615Z
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@ew @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 im not joking its literally an ad
(DIR) Post #A5ip9wP3fKowTn83Hc by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T01:00:39.774362Z
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@ew @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 I’m aware of all of these problems in all empirical research. I’m also aware of different numbers youv’ve seen that quantify the aggregate effect of these things in medicine. Nothing in this ad surprises me.
(DIR) Post #A5ip9wwNfRTY98ifDs by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T01:01:51.212880Z
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@negi @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 i'm inclined to block you for baiting me into a useless argument when you yourself are aware of how much the replication crisis affects "science"
(DIR) Post #A5ip9xMc5uSXSUzc6y by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T01:02:21.951883Z
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@ew @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 I’m not baiting you into anything if you want to drop it let’s drop it.
(DIR) Post #A5ip9xl4cy1cgMR9Em by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:03:14Z
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@negi hey you gave it a good effort. There is a level of stupidity you just cant do anything about, and this is it.@pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5ip9yAF7O9rwQDFT6 by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T01:03:43.878944Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom whats the point of alienating the guy u should relax
(DIR) Post #A5ip9ycxOd7vNTeBE0 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:05:35Z
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@negi Because he goes out of his way to try to insult anyone who disagrees with him and has a melt down and tries to say the most offensive things he can come up with once he "loses". In short because he has done absolutely nothing to earn that respect, so he has earned it.@pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5ip9z27t3GAdXQHSK by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T01:09:26.220112Z
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@freemo @negi @pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom You lost though.
(DIR) Post #A5ip9zTmEFNU1IMMYS by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:10:04Z
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@mystik I have no doubt in your fantasy world you wholeheartedly believe that.@ew @cowanon @negi @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5ip9zsajzE9GFyBEW by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T01:11:18.931796Z
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@freemo @ew @cowanon @negi @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 He just proved to you that your trust in mainstream "science" is unfounded.
(DIR) Post #A5ipC8pKRgdxaeSx72 by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T01:07:03.012505Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom I’m done with this convo. You will never persuade anyone of anything if u get exasperated like this.
(DIR) Post #A5ipC9GcoCTgxJEkeu by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:09:04Z
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@negi Did you follow the conversation? I spent an hour being respectful and trying to explain it to him, all the while him lobbing every insult and slur he can manifest while I ignore it. At a certain point I gave up having **any** interest in trying to persuade him and at this point he is just a waste of space and a punching bag. He earned it, he deserves it, and while you are right it isnt effective and persuading him, that is no longer my intent.@pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5ipC9id84saMAL7JI by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T01:11:50.086883Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom If u cant be respectful about it and ur getting exasperated then it’s time to pack it up.
(DIR) Post #A5ipFIjm3UezCBNHfM by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:02:24Z
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@s8n Why would I want to use the mute button, I dont get to witness these levels of stupid everyday, I am totally entertained.@pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5ipM66hPe9I3CL2Lg by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:14:08Z
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@negi Never said I was exasperated.. I said he lost any right to be respected, and thus I wont.. nothing exasperating about it though, mostly entertaining and quite refreshing actually.
(DIR) Post #A5ipM6Z3iCplT9bgYK by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:15:51Z
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@negi The more baffling part is why you are more concerned with why I am not showing respect to someone who acted disrespectful for an hour before recinding that respect, rather than worrying about the person who has at no point shown respect for anyone in the conversation at allSeems you have your priorities backwards honestly.
(DIR) Post #A5ipM6ugPo8CYDixG4 by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T01:16:47.407564Z
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@freemo bc ur ostensibly on my ‘side’ of the argument and what ur doing is counterproductive.
(DIR) Post #A5ipM7GJ7PQddHqDxo by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:18:13Z
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@negi Fair, as i said i determined after over an hour of effort that not only does he not deserve respect but more importantly he is not capable of anything other than a counterproductive conversation. As such my goal with regards to him is no longer either productivity or respect, it is entertainment, and in that regard he is providing quite a lot.
(DIR) Post #A5ipM7cHnh0ejS7mDo by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T01:18:44.359025Z
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@freemo if u cant engage in a dispute about science constructively dont do it.
(DIR) Post #A5ipM7xYWc1VnQ4lNI by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:21:01Z
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@negi I wasntt... I spent an hour constructively engaging about science.. after that point I was mocking him and in no way discussing science or trying to be constructive, my entertainment at that point was the only goal of value
(DIR) Post #A5ipmz4BhHds28z4N6 by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T01:22:04.411310Z
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@freemo U spent an hour condescending 2 the guy anyway it’s 221 am here goign 2 bed gn
(DIR) Post #A5ipmzREJc4dBblTHs by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:22:50Z
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@negi no the first hour i engaged him i engaged him earnestly while he lobbed insults the entire time which I pretended to ignore.
(DIR) Post #A5ipmzroilLCW4ChjE by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:23:17Z
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@negi good night
(DIR) Post #A5ipnsAooKcswdVdqK by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:24:18Z
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@negi I dont recall saying they couldnt do it. The fact that they can is more concerning not less.
(DIR) Post #A5ipuMEbxOWNuoNLZA by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T01:20:48.862524Z
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@freemo ur post about vaccine passports being worse than hitler was stupid as fuck btw i have no sympathy for u
(DIR) Post #A5ipuMbeZix94H9kTw by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:22:19Z
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@negi no the comparison is not that they are worst than hitler, but rather that at least hitler only dorce drugged a small part of the population, and never did it on the whole populace. Thus a less overarching decision in that regard specifically.
(DIR) Post #A5iq7FXi9HYEvQSNlY by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T01:24:48.849827Z
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@freemo The US supreme court has held that the state can literally sterilize people u think they cant do this?Look up the phrase “Three generations of imbeciles are enough” anyway goodnight.
(DIR) Post #A5iq7G2uHIVMUB3IOG by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:25:35Z
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@negi I dont recall saying they couldnt do it. The fact that they can is more concerning not less.I know of that already.Good night
(DIR) Post #A5iqGKlg5gFRjmJzCS by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T01:25:39.446127Z
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@freemo no its dope we should apply that 2 career criminals and wards of the state more often.
(DIR) Post #A5iqGLBCYmfH0wGMz2 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:26:16Z
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@negi then we disagree on that
(DIR) Post #A5isnR9XZYfp0KOZe4 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:44:47Z
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@ew YAY!@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5itEJtYfHOKJUjqfg by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:54:40Z
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@negi agreed, though they seem to go off the deepend wiith everyone they talk to.. good luck, better you than me.@pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5ito9zkwycg2AjAp6 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:58:01Z
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@negi ew melt down in 3...2...1...@pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iuAIRAF9lUaU6R1c by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T00:58:15Z
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@ew and bingo, meltdown engaged@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 @negi
(DIR) Post #A5iuB1S6sUGACRtKFM by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T00:59:13.339778Z
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@freemo @ew @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @negi https://psmag.com/news/big-pharma-reveals-a-biomedical-replication-crisis
(DIR) Post #A5iuB1qZPXpFQJKrNA by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:00:46Z
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@mystik dont reply to me, I've given up on you being anything more than a sad sack. Your basically just entertainment as I watch in amazement the new levels of stupidity you explore@ew @cowanon @negi @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5iuErEApqWle9CYZE by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-30T01:02:44Z
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@PestToast OK. If 2 or more people have a dialog (without fire and stuff), we should be able to share opinions without agreeing. @freemo @mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew
(DIR) Post #A5iupff0nvv6UDJDDk by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:09:31Z
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@s8n What are you on about, I never once asked anyone to untag me!@pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iuzwiEGDzIGeiHAm by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:12:41Z
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@s8n Nope wrong again... I did point out the stupidity of someone saying they were done talking to me and then directly replying to me on my own thread 3 more times... but pointing out stupidity is a far cry from complaining, as I said it was quit entertaining watching someone without a clue thinking they have a clue.@pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @mystik @TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5iv4roTu3DMWMz4lM by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T01:13:20Z
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@mystik Like I said, I have little doubt you believe such nonsense.@ew @cowanon @negi @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5j659eAhG4lKLV9gO by timorl@qoto.org
2021-03-30T05:54:52Z
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@freemo I remember you also opposing lockdowns and, for some unfathomable reason, mask mandates. By process of elimination this would leave only "let the weak die" as a way of handling the pandemic, but that probably means I'm missing something. So how would you handle it?
(DIR) Post #A5jC2nHZTZTL6vBiGu by trinsec@qoto.org
2021-03-30T07:01:41Z
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@freemo I just wanted to pipe in that when I went to study abroad (in DC, USA, late 90’s), I was required to get a Tetanus vaccination. Otherwise I would not be allowed to study there. My last Tetanus shot was too long ago according to them. So I got a (painful) shot from one of the nurses in that university’s medical facility. My study was not in a medical field. All (foreign?) students had to do this.@khird
(DIR) Post #A5jCreHwfuEFz8c26K by mur2501@qoto.org
2021-03-30T07:10:53Z
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@trinsec Well yes when you travel to other countries you may or may not require specific vaccines.@freemo @khird
(DIR) Post #A5jD8leeXZovkoOeIa by trinsec@qoto.org
2021-03-30T07:13:58Z
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@mur2501 I already had that vaccination before, though. But they determined it to be invalid by that time. And I did need to show proof of vaccination. Not sure why it's that much different from within your own country. Either way it is still 'showing proof of vaccination'.@freemo @khird
(DIR) Post #A5jDOMxu6SnHoXqB3g by mur2501@qoto.org
2021-03-30T07:16:46Z
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@trinsec This are official documents and proof matters, doesn't really matters you even had a vaccination or not, but you should have a proper document of the vaccination (which shall be accepted by the immigration department)Just normal bureaucracy.@freemo @khird
(DIR) Post #A5jDxQx1HBq6JM9AVU by trinsec@qoto.org
2021-03-30T07:23:07Z
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@mur2501 Of course. But I got the impression from @freemo that [showing proof of vaccination] wasn't acceptable [outside of the nursing/medical field]. That's why I piped in.(For the 'official documents' there was no mention of the Tetanus vaccine. I had to scramble up a doctor's note (from overseas, when internet was fairly new, fun!) and show it to the medical facility that I indeed had this vaccination. No immigration department involved for this.)@khird
(DIR) Post #A5jKteBSpl1VsD2pf6 by PestToast@paypig.org
2021-03-30T08:40:53Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew you really can't understand the implications of what I said, huh? You are in this thread trying to sell the establishment agenda to people that the establishment hates and lies to.
(DIR) Post #A5jQtmq1fWIm7UAyky by marcelcosta@barcelona.social
2021-03-30T07:55:30.942344Z
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@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @pthenq1 Do you have data supporting that? I mean: having to be yearly vaccinated does not imply that it has no benefit in particularly in risk and sanitary people. Who are the ones that are vaccinated against the flu.
(DIR) Post #A5jQtnCiJARxFqn67U by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-30T09:48:07.154127Z
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@marcelcosta there are hundreds or more strains. They pick a few of them they believe will happen that’s year and that’s what they put in the vaccine. It kind of works when they guess right but it’s useless against mutations. Universal flu vaccines kind of exist but there is some reason they don’t field them. @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5jkLaaH9BTYd6TwIa by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T00:52:48.598304Z
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@negi @freemo @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @pthenq1 We're past the time of convincing each other.
(DIR) Post #A5jkLbTZpZiBOcM6Uq by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T00:58:34.916215Z
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@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @ew @freemo @negi @pthenq1 I don't know, man. I think guns and violence are the only way forward now.
(DIR) Post #A5jkLbpCXB0cTgTNCa by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T00:59:58.448857Z
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@mystik @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @negi @pthenq1 people are such fucking weirdos now, your revolution isn't even worth it lmao
(DIR) Post #A5jkLcDJ5YI7gRkcm8 by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T01:12:51.452448Z
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@ew @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @freemo @negi @pthenq1 Revolution? I was thinking more like immolation. We're not gonna win this.I will defend my rights to death though.
(DIR) Post #A5jvpNFaNvnHSXD3T6 by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T00:54:07.688589Z
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@Gray14 @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @pthenq1 They don't need your trust, they already have all the hypnotized subhumans eating out of their hand.This is the hardest pill to swallow: they are right, most people are low IQ subhumans.
(DIR) Post #A5jxOsjNQuSPBSdhey by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T15:52:19.868365Z
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@ew @freemo @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @mystik @pthenq1 First of 2 threads on #covidhoax that said most of this:https://noagendasocial.com/@PurplePitchforks/105868910391070063
(DIR) Post #A5jxRStrvZv1wKmLE8 by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T15:52:48.166038Z
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@ew @freemo @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @mystik @pthenq1 Second of 2 threads on #covidhoax that said most of this:https://tucson.claims/@Coyote/posts/A52rDT1vfwKpYKViEa
(DIR) Post #A5jxVBoXOXuW6h3qUK by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T00:56:36.353612Z
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@negi @ew @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @freemo @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5jxWVOU5DnF7dVCGO by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T01:03:51.125845Z
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@freemo @negi @pthenq1 @ew @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom Roughly $28 billion a year is spent in the United States alone on research that can’t be replicated.https://psmag.com/news/big-pharma-reveals-a-biomedical-replication-crisis
(DIR) Post #A5jxZBJFDIEhhSKM8u by coyote@lain.sh
2021-03-30T15:54:08.597394Z
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@freemo @ew @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 lern 2 reed dumfuck
(DIR) Post #A5jxlQ4y7qnkyyUAlc by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T15:56:25.499171Z
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@Coyote I have a theory about the vaccines that I’ve never heard anyone else voice anywhere. It’s not that it’s pure genius, amazing, or astounding. It’s really simple. No one says it. (I’m sure someone somewhere has, I’ve just never seen them.)@ew @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5jxojlbNriAuZ0cBE by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T15:57:01.612339Z
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@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @pthenq1 I dont want to get into it again, but notice that ‘innovative’ studies has a specific meaning. These are not drugs that are brought to market, this is step zero of an investigation. The FDA is kinda gay and bad, but the later higher power studies do act as a filter.
(DIR) Post #A5jxuAgciyy7qiGthw by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T15:57:59.632882Z
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@epic What is it?
(DIR) Post #A5jxuzyo18oevsAdd2 by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T15:58:08.184937Z
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@negi @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @pthenq1 That's not the interesting part. The conflict of interests taint all stages.
(DIR) Post #A5jy2hDrdjHp4hstpA by polarisera@spinster.xyz
2021-03-30T15:59:32.637120Z
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@epic @Coyote @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 Does it involve Sensitivity and Recall, multilevel hidden Markov models and an unfathomed solution to the Ecological Inference Problem that plagues modern authoritarian pseudo-science?
(DIR) Post #A5jy508UI8xCJRT7nU by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T15:59:57.734683Z
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@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @pthenq1 Sure, I would agree with that. I used to work on FDA-related stuff b4 i went back 2 grad school, but the whole system is captured by the pharmaceutical companies (although the way the capture works is somewhat subtle. The main route of capture is actually that they do things to raise costs of compliance and study design to price out smaller competitors).
(DIR) Post #A5jyFArzEpgSUzbMBM by coyote@lain.sh
2021-03-30T16:01:32.911811Z
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@freemo @ew @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 > hurr durr I disregarded the CDC data that everyone else uses and the media uses on a daily basis hurr durr I forgot this is the official source of the US death toll!You still haven't answered the first question at all, this one: "you can't prove that either are dangerous". In fact if all you have is "CDC bad" yet you haven't explained why CDC numbers aren't reliable.
(DIR) Post #A5jyNg3DBwnTWPuGLQ by smooky@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-03-30T16:03:19.841141Z
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@coyote @freemo @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @mystik @pthenq1 the numbers arent reliable because the pcr test throws up false positives like no tomorow and the deaths are all atributed to covid even if they died of something else. the numbers are completely meaninless horseshit
(DIR) Post #A5jyPwDK4K4QEJiJXc by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T16:03:36Z
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@coyote Huh? The CDC data isnt used that often in specific studies or papers. Its far more typical to use specific studies with specific guidelines on a sample set.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @mystik @cowanon @ew
(DIR) Post #A5jyU4cKlcBhS1Nu4G by coyote@lain.sh
2021-03-30T16:04:15.180362Z
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@smooky @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 Don't answer for him x) I know that, but does that idiot know that?
(DIR) Post #A5jyU7HWrQKPiMfpYW by coyote@lain.sh
2021-03-30T16:04:15.808148Z
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@freemo @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @mystik @pthenq1 > qoto.orgAhh nevermind, I'm speaking to an ignoramus
(DIR) Post #A5jyjQdfAque5pKPJI by MrTWatson@noagendasocial.com
2021-03-30T16:07:15Z
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@freemo @negi This thread was fun
(DIR) Post #A5jypt30SorFwGGILY by coyote@lain.sh
2021-03-30T16:08:17.915264Z
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@smooky @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 plus, I was asking why CDC *influenza* numbers were untrustworthy, not COVID
(DIR) Post #A5jysQNfVDfjto8Vqi by smooky@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-03-30T16:08:53.329175Z
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@coyote @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 well influenza they dont even test for most of the time so.....
(DIR) Post #A5jyv65JQ3chowpCHg by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T16:09:15Z
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@coyote Might help if you dont talk to yourself as much then and listen to others, then you might be in intelligent company.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @mystik @cowanon @ew
(DIR) Post #A5jywWkpkP7mpCvbDk by smooky@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-03-30T16:09:38.373906Z
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@coyote @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 viruses are still a mystery science only pretends to understand
(DIR) Post #A5jyxNcrAnEenobTe4 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T16:09:44Z
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@MrTWatson Certainly more amusing than the shitshow that is the main thread.@negi
(DIR) Post #A5jz1qyjyuKSztyMiG by coyote@lain.sh
2021-03-30T16:10:12.298020Z
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@smooky @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 no phoning a friend! Freemo has to justify his idiocy!
(DIR) Post #A5jz5I3Nm3bRpyma1I by coyote@lain.sh
2021-03-30T16:11:12.427008Z
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@smooky @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 you could replace viruses with literally anything and it would still be true
(DIR) Post #A5jz5dKoeR1fq86Ibo by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T16:11:15.757828Z
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@polarisera @epic @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 I’m so lost on what point you are trying to make. Can you walk us through it?As in, “Ecological Inference Problem” “Trust the Science or your a Nazi” vs. “That’s not science, your a Marxist!”That comes to mind as the relevant example, am I reading you wrong?I’m lost, Markov implies random, and the pathological behaviors inciting political decision are not random. The behaviors and actions are far more predictable, they are pathological.That plague “authoritarian pseudo-science” lost me. Why should a problem that plagues pseudo-science be of any concern? It’s not science, and until it makes a logical basis in fact, should not be considered as an influencing factor by anyone other than the pathological, who are the root of the problem, because they were not taught solid math and logic skills under the modern educational constructs created by, well, Marxists.I’m jumping in a bit late here, but some of these posts look like buzzword bingo, and I’m trying to sort out who’s actually making a point. I think you had one, but I think it’s obscured in context. Would like to understand this proposed question better so that it could be addressed intelligently.
(DIR) Post #A5jzITrdAsFCEPZkGm by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T16:13:34Z
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@Coyote You are arguing with a bunch of idiots who want to beleive their smart but never did any hard work to actually learn anything. So their ego convinces them "learning is the devil" and then they pretend to be smart despite knowing nothing... if you are trying to make intellectual sense of it you will never succeed because these are people who are just lashing out because they are ashamed at being a nobody who knows nothing and isnt willing to do the hard work to change that but still feels they deserve the credit.@epic @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @mystik @cowanon @ew @polarisera
(DIR) Post #A5jzMyvVcu7hjEXHY8 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T16:14:20Z
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@trinsec You sure that was tetnaus and not TB?@khird
(DIR) Post #A5jzRkTOn7W2Llf0pU by coyote@lain.sh
2021-03-30T16:15:05.921188Z
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@Coyote @epic let's hear it
(DIR) Post #A5jzdoMABAAzrw1nOq by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T16:17:20Z
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@Coyote * They're :)@epic @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @mystik @cowanon @ew @polarisera
(DIR) Post #A5jzfJRi4gs8a4L2SO by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T16:17:43.648946Z
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@Coyote Oh, that thread was waaay too in-depth for the likes o’ me too. I didn’t follow all those links. My ideas are as simple as the nose on your face, I’ve just never heard them voiced before.Ya gotta give me a few minutes to type the post though. I’m a slow typist and that’s my excuse for not being clear enough of a thinker to whip it out. Just a few minutes.Now, I feel like it’s gonna be a severe letdown because the buildup got too carried away. It’s simple. Gotta start typing over again now. … … … ok, where’s the ‘p’ key again? …@polarisera @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5jzj4Ubc2dJMWU8oq by MrTWatson@noagendasocial.com
2021-03-30T16:18:24Z
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@freemo @Coyote @epic @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @mystik @cowanon @ew @polarisera Learning is the devil work bobby!
(DIR) Post #A5k1frrEKhYzDNfSJk by trinsec@qoto.org
2021-03-30T16:40:07Z
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@freemo It’s been over 20 years, and as a teenager I wasn’t too interested in details. In fact, I was annoyed I needed a shot, I hate needles. ;)But considering they signed along that it is a ‘stiff jaw’ disease, I think it’s likely tetanus.@khird
(DIR) Post #A5k2MAZt7bERRAj8wy by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T16:47:50Z
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@trinsecYup that is tetanus alright. Well scary to know they are already doing this at all. What happens if you say you got the vaccine but simply cant obtain proof for reasons outside of your control (records were not even kept for example which is common with birth vaccines for people over 30)?@khird
(DIR) Post #A5k2qKo3elghqdjreq by trinsec@qoto.org
2021-03-30T16:53:18Z
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@freemo I suppose they just go jab you themselves, like they did with me? Unless, of course, you wanted to abort this whole study thing and go back home.And even if you have proof.. I was vaccinated already, but they shrugged and vaccinated me again. Who knows, maybe I’ve been nanoteched up already. :P@khird
(DIR) Post #A5k39H3Zp1fhik1pq4 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T16:56:39Z
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@trinsecSounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Forcing someone to violate the fda recommended dosage on a vaccine by doubling up on it simply because it was before official records were kept… this effectively risks a persons health without any health benefits, which seems wrong.In your case its a vaccine we all get every 7 years anyway so doesnt exactly apply to other once-and-done vaccines.@khird
(DIR) Post #A5k3RvKCqPqfp4hRFg by trinsec@qoto.org
2021-03-30T17:00:02Z
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@freemo In my country this vaccine would be recommended to do every 10 years. I think my last shot before then was roughly around that time ago. (Got bitten by a dog in my torso, owie. Got a tetanus shot immediately from doc. Don’t know which I found worse, the dog bite or the shot. :P)@khird
(DIR) Post #A5k3a5xjB87P8B596W by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T17:00:56Z
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@trinsecyea but im more concerned with things like measles your only supposed to get once@khird
(DIR) Post #A5k3tKAMaqUWgYA4I4 by trinsec@qoto.org
2021-03-30T17:04:53Z
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@freemo Well, younger me would totally stick out a tongue towards you. It hurts!:PBut as far as I remember, I only needed to do that tetanus shot at the medical facility. Don’t know about the others.Your idea of vaccinations might be a tad not fully in line with what’s already happening in your country. ‘Twas all I wanted to say. Whether you want to look up more info about this or not is up to you.@khird
(DIR) Post #A5k4nzvIWqOiPQ8efo by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T17:15:19.400730Z
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@Coyote The scoop is simply that the government is using the vaccines to spot who the rebels are, same as masks are used on a local level but nationally and with a historical record of who’s bucking the system.[1/5]@TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5k4rIyEATY4Ls5OCW by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T17:15:55.511012Z
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@Coyote As people get their vaccine cards, the resources being used to force everyone to get a card will be freed up and the resources can be brought to bear on those who haven’t yet got a card. Here’s how it works…It’ll be sort of like when you go to one of those sales seminars for RV hookups or timeshares where you get a free set of steak knives just for going. If you’ve been to one of those and held out, you’ll know this routine.They seat all the attendees around those big round banquet tables that seat 10-12 people. There’s one salesman per table. As people leave, walking out or buying, the salesmen can focus more attention on the people that are left because there are fewer of them.When it gets down to only one or two marks (customers) per table, the salesmen start to combine people from separate tables. Now, each table has two salesmen working on the marks. If you’re the last holdout, refusing to buy or leave, you end up being the only customer in the whole room and every salesman who was in the room is working on you.What were we talking about? Oh, vaccines. More and more attention will be focused on the people who resist getting the vaccine as time goes by. It will get more and more difficult to resist.[2/5]@TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5k4vZjrlWWFW4PA6i by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T17:16:41.793141Z
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@Coyote As is quite obvious, we’re headed for a system much like the Social Credit system the Chinese have now but far worse. Our new Surveillance Capitalism will be far far more restrictive and work far better than the CCP’s because everyone can be tracked much easier in the US than dirt poor farmers knee deep in the rice paddy water of rural China can.The longer you refuse the vaccine, the lower your social credit score will go and it will be unrecoverable. You will always remain one of those people who refused the vaccine. The longer you refuse, the worse you’ll be screwed. You will never get that coveted position high in business management. You will be the last to receive any social support from the government. Hold out til the end and you’ll end up being watched for any missteps forever.[3/5]@TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5k4yN6BDYA5BNAvPE by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T17:17:12.125590Z
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@Coyote The Red-Flag laws being pushed through Congress right now at the same time Joe Biden is formulating his Executive Orders to remove gun rights will, of course, first remove guns from the most dangerous … most dangerous to the government. The more you resist vaccination, the more likely the government is going to show up at your door to pick up your guns.When others see guns being removed from the homes of vaccination holdouts, more and more people will get vaccinated. It will be a coercive technique. Hold out long enough and you will surely mark yourself as an OBVIOUS subversive and they’ll come through the front wall of your house in an armored car to get your guns. They already have proof you’re dangerous.They’ll know exactly which homes to do that to because you gave them a pointer —> the subversive refusing to get the vaccine.[4/5]@TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5k51EJQLEvSnhjV7g by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T17:17:43.159956Z
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@Coyote So, more and more pressure will come on the people who refuse the vaccine as time goes by. The longer you refuse the worse your cancellation. If you don’t voluntarily give up your guns they’ll know exactly where to get them with the most force.(I know, I coulda just wrote that last paragraph but I was enjoying the attention. 😁)[5/5]@TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5k53MUetYLQkm0Kxc by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T17:18:06.189069Z
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@Coyote … and my posts are even longer than normal when I rush myself. 😁@TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5k5hdrhj7S8DKzV3I by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T17:25:22.864790Z
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@polarisera I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume those are real words. 😜 @Coyote @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5k7uVtCtKt59OxWXw by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T17:50:05.915413Z
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@epic Most of that makes sense, mostly. However, there’s a few issues in practical application that should be exploited by people valuing individual liberty right now.First, the July 1st date is important. That’s when the FDA has to extend “experimental use needed for the ‘pandemic’,” or Pharma gets to charge full prices. Pharma probably wants to charge full prices, so likely won’t support the mandatory mass production at discounted prices. We’ve seen “signals” that Biden’s position is weakening, by the promise of “if you get vaccinated enough you can go out on the 4th of July.” That’s his “big push” right now to get as many vaccinated before he might lose control.Next, Texit. Not a solution, but step in the right direction. The division on the gun control issue is fundamental to the people keeping more power than the government, and it’s been crumbling since NFA in 1934, and has been OUT OF CONTROL since 1972 the IRS split the ATF off into it’s own militarized law enforcement agency. The idea of a Brexit, is a positive peaceful exit to laws and treaties that do not represent the values of, or protect, citizens.It’s not “our” government, hasn’t been since probably pre-1900. It’s their government, the ruling elite, who “allow” us to be subjects in their kingdom, and continue to only give the illusion of “representation” feeding this mythical “democracy for good.” It was designed as a Republic, to prevent mob rule, by the best guess at what might work. It didn’t work. The one thing broken in the constitution is that it ALLOWS for mob rule (aka democracy) to infringe on individual liberty. But, it was written when people were coming here to avoid tyranny, and seeking individual liberty, so it worked for a while. Now, it’s not, people are not seeking refuge from tyranny, they are looking for a BBD (1984 movie Hardbodies reference), and mob mentality is not a great decision making force when it comes to “we will trade off this right for that benefit.” It’s broken. Rebuild the whole fucking thing: https://tucson.claims/@Coyote/posts/A4qB78P5vYQljdASgaI’m not trying to say you are wrong, at all. Once again, you are mostly right, and it mostly makes sense. Just looking for any workable solutions right now, and there aren’t a lot of options left.@TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5k7yqov0sIBE01Oi0 by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T17:50:53.419911Z
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@epic @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 Could have just wrote the first paragraph too. But it’s all good…
(DIR) Post #A5k8sg3oClfW4QbevQ by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T18:00:59.264339Z
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@Coyote lol. yeah. Sometimes I’m a chatty little bitch.(spinster friends, it’s just an expression. Just an old expression.)@TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5k9ApXpgJ8khKJ1Pc by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T18:04:16.434113Z
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@cowanon Yeah, usually I do that and then go back and delete half the paragraphs before clicking Publish. Feel free to delete them yourself. 😉 @Coyote @TruthAndFreedom @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5k9dwpdfOsnhFWEGO by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T18:09:31.349582Z
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@epic @polarisera @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 I wish I could find it, Lex Fridman summarized some of my own thoughts I learned very early in life on the intro to his podcast within the last week. Basically, the only time ever, even in the most technical of scientific writing, to use rare or complex terminology, is when there is absolutely no way to say the same thing with simpler words. When you are trying to communicate, if you are smart, you understand you must make your message as clear as possible to as large of an audience as you can reach. Lawyers using “here-to-fore,” doctors who can’t describe a condition with words less than 3 syllable, philosophy calling rare theories as fact rather than describing fact with only reference to one named theory, these are all lazy and insecure reactions to fears of being challenged on the foundation of your position by trying to narrow your peer group to both inflate your ego, and to protect your ideas by obscuring them through the lens of another’s much greater works.
(DIR) Post #A5kADPmU1hxxcFxG8u by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T18:15:56.459967Z
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@Coyote Yeah. What he said. 👍 @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @polarisera @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5kBoOUxrFS0J5xQMi by coyote@lain.sh
2021-03-30T18:33:38.410248Z
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@epic @Coyote @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 I agree this is definitely an aspect of it, but there are other movements and things that the government does, every step these people make usually has more than one outcome from what I can tell (things are not always mutually exclusive)
(DIR) Post #A5kC2uVnd4sneJGncO by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T18:36:27.010083Z
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@coyote I’m with ya. Buncha double-dealing and misdirection. 👍 @Coyote @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5kC3R6QSRC6jAeV9M by coyote@lain.sh
2021-03-30T18:36:24.425977Z
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@Coyote @epic @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @polarisera @pthenq1 > the only time ever [...] to use rare or complex terminology, is when there is absolutely no way to say the same thing with simpler words. Preach! Who was it that said "if you can't explain something to a grade schooler you probably haven't understood it at all" was it Feynman?
(DIR) Post #A5kC7tE5pvK16sMWQ4 by coyote@lain.sh
2021-03-30T18:37:16.520727Z
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@epic @Coyote @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 yeah, like the vaccine could be a way to weed out dissidents, but it could also be population control
(DIR) Post #A5kCBNlClg9Sg7W11E by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T18:37:58.327771Z
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@coyote @epic @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 “ I agree this is definitely an aspect of it, but there are other movements and things that the government does, every step these people make usually has more than one outcome from what I can tell (things are not always mutually exclusive)”Yes, I agree, government is a kite in the wind. And we, the people, are supposed to be the ones pulling the strings, allowing it to fly. Now, we could tear the kite in half, and I’m sure if we split into two groups, one of us could get a kite under control again. Or, we could all just let the fuck go of it and build a new kite. Or…
(DIR) Post #A5kCZHjgonWAwaCjPU by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T18:42:17.403823Z
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@coyote @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @epic @ew @freemo @mystik @polarisera @pthenq1 An “Archie Bunker” stereotype might say, “ah, that Lex, he’s one of the good ones…” And, why shouldn’t that be funny and not a “hate crime” to say?
(DIR) Post #A5kCpKDrLCGhHzxrRA by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T18:45:11.519599Z
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@coyote @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @epic @ew @freemo @mystik @polarisera @pthenq1 Situation update: Archie Bunker (fictional character) is now in quarantine, when his great grand daughter Karen called the police on Thanksgiving, 2020 for not wearing a mask in a gathering of more than 3. As of this date, there has been no word on his status, and attempts to locate him remain unanswered.
(DIR) Post #A5kEaNIvngaqPbKsVM by doktorzhivago@liberdon.com
2021-03-30T19:04:54Z
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@Coyote our system does not scale with 535 reps for 330 million people. the founders envisioned a single rep per 70k people, we have a law that caps this. self-imposed non-scalabilityThe articles of confederation required unanimous approval of law. the fed gov would be 0.1% its size sans constitution @epic @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @mystik @cowanon @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5kGGLv5RFDMEalMuG by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T19:23:41.513553Z
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@doktorzhivago @epic @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @mystik @cowanon @freemo @ew “our system does not scale”TRUE.Now, How can we weight checks and balances with a broken scale?Or, we need to build at new scale, and not try to rebuild or recycle the broken scale? There’s a ghost in the machine, and he’s starting to show himself.
(DIR) Post #A5kHmSyipWB3LaLAAq by doktorzhivago@liberdon.com
2021-03-30T19:40:42Z
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@Coyote we can only have peace if we can decentralizeThere is zero point in being in a country with progressive collectivists. They are a disease@epic @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @mystik @cowanon @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5kKTNQrWfHsVT5khM by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-30T20:10:52.671720Z
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@coyote “There are more things in heaven and earth …” - Hamlet@Coyote @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @ew @freemo @mystik @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5kKaO9XFGtelhKYaG by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T20:12:08.936647Z
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@coyote @epic @Coyote @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 i'm okay with being a dissident it's better than being a retard
(DIR) Post #A5kPtve7RS6Tv1lyHw by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-30T21:11:41Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 every year we tried to stop the Flu since 1918, and every year we failed. This finally has ended though, in 2020, where COVID-19 has stopped the Flu dead in her tracks
(DIR) Post #A5kQ9xROXKXi7PSqSO by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-30T21:14:34Z
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@TruthAndFreedom Not sure what you mean by "stopped the flu".. if you are refering to the fact that significant lockdowns, social distancing, and masks, has not only significantly reduced cases of COVID but also other diseases that are transmitting in a similar manner, then yea, of course, thats of course to be expected.@pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5kRi5M9iHgCT4qokK by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-30T21:31:56Z
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@doktorzhivagoThis is a great country. And it's amazing there are people not recognizing that. A country made by everyone. Including conservatives and progressives.Do everyone believe that an independent state could deal with international policies alone? Or that it could have Rusia or North Korea treats or Chinese competence? Could you resist an American embassy? LOLYou were isolated and independent once. It didn't go that well...@Coyote @epic @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @cowanon @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5kRvEjk9Fo3KF9fA8 by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T21:34:19.976709Z
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@pthenq1 @doktorzhivago @epic @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @cowanon @freemo @ew “Do everyone believe that an independent state could deal with international policies alone?”Hell yea, I’d trust a Texas Air Guard, National Guard, military in control of it’s own weapons to deal with North Korea and China over Biden.You wouldn’t? WHY? That man IS North Korea and China, censorship, oppression, fear, camps full of people mistreated… Why would you want HIM to have more power, not less?
(DIR) Post #A5kRxJUdR3N2ek4v1U by doktorzhivago@liberdon.com
2021-03-30T21:34:42Z
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@pthenq1 LOLMuh Standing Army. Muh Roads. @Coyote @epic @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @cowanon @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5kS0Ee7udVgUauYRk by ew@social.ancreport.com
2021-03-30T21:35:14.736867Z
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@Coyote @pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @doktorzhivago @epic @freemo @mystik the south and the anti-federalists were always right and the union was a mistake
(DIR) Post #A5kS63dZkwZM5QQiCu by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T21:36:17.463527Z
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@pthenq1 @doktorzhivago @epic @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @cowanon @freemo @ew @pthenq1 “You were isolated and independent once. It didn’t go that well…” @pthenq1yea that red light by your userID is saying a LOT right now.Explain how your statement is not a threat, that should immediately cause everyone to distrust you?
(DIR) Post #A5kSLnSJgdU8X8fVA0 by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T21:39:08.001843Z
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@pthenq1 @doktorzhivago @epic @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @cowanon @freemo @ew “Including conservatives and progressives.”False dilema. They are both evil, and authoritarian, and to what extent does not matter. It’s a false flag, distraction, trying to keep people from focusing on “should we learn the truth, then act” and continue to allow “let’s let them do their will on us, and hope they have good intentions.”
(DIR) Post #A5kSk1uxZKrKKvcaKu by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T21:43:30.830066Z
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@pthenq1 @doktorzhivago @epic @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @cowanon @freemo @ew “This is a great country. And it’s amazing there are people not recognizing that.” Start with that, what country is great, don’t be ambiguous, name one, is it the USA? Wave the flag a little with a nod to “let’s just do what the government says” and expect it to still work?It’s amazing that people do not recognize that individual liberty is again being taken away for “the greater good” that can’t be explained even in 260 page legislative bills. Amazing that people don’t see that corruption scales exponential with the size of government. That anyone trusted their children in these schools. That all the philosophical reasons that “made this country great” and now being bulldozed over to make way for a parking lot for the NWO. That’s what’s fucking amazing.
(DIR) Post #A5ka6FefsEsWzZXz28 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-30T23:05:33Z
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@CoyoteOh. It is not a threat.I am talking about history: Mexico, El Álamo and all that.No threats.Regarding that icon I use. It came because my Twitter account was closed. So I decided to open a temporal Twitter account and that I did... But they did not close it!Later I discovered the fediverse and I had to keep my icon so other people recognize me when they migrate her from Twitter.I am not a cop or FBI guy. @epic @doktorzhivago @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @cowanon @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5kaFo3zJWsoJVwYgC by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T23:07:41.682435Z
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@pthenq1 @epic @doktorzhivago @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @cowanon @freemo @ew “I am not a cop or FBI guy.”Said some guy, on the internet, so… Yea. Random variables in nature occur, until you understand the underlying structures.Point? “Trust Biden and get an experimental drug injection, what could it hurt?”
(DIR) Post #A5kbPRvkYfeUWIFhXk by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-30T23:12:26Z
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@CoyoteI am talking about USA. Indeed, the bigger the country, more corruption opportunities are open for the bad guys.In the other hand, technology requires specialization.250 years ago a representative could understand at the very least the basic stuff about each law.Today... It is complicated. One law is about spaceforce, other is about a pandemic and the effects of mRNA technology, next law is about the economic impact of the pandemic and mitigation, the next one is about some state and its bomb toys.A bigger and more complex government is required just to deal with each problem.I don't know where the right size is...@epic @doktorzhivago @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @cowanon @freemo @ew
(DIR) Post #A5kbPSMgwVCdrqrDXM by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T23:20:37.898574Z
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@pthenq1 @epic @doktorzhivago @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @cowanon @freemo @ew “A bigger and more complex government is required just to deal with each problem.I don’t know where the right size is…”Premise and conclusion false.Science, technology, and knowledge are becoming distributed, and equal access platform, and shifting away from central authority such as government. And this is a good thing, because then the “information” reaches the minds willing to use it, and understand it, and develop it. Government gets in the way of that, every time, and then tries to control and corrupt it, every time.Problems are not getting bigger and more complex, they are getting more fractured, and smaller. We see now, it’s 100 little issues that make the one big “problem” and there are 1000 little people able to focus on the little issues and create working solutions. Not one guy on the top that knows who to fund (his buddy) for a project to “help” (move tax money).100% disagree we. We need smaller government, and more individual enablement.You’re idea that we need bigger government is wrong, and your basis that “we have bigger problems now” is also wrong. The “bigger problems” are fictions of the “bigger government” that wants to retain all the decision making ability, and not allow access to the knowledge to understand the truth and power to defend what we believe to be true. That’s just evil right there…
(DIR) Post #A5kbfRbrWDAm9sZpGi by StampedingLonghorn@social.linux.pizza
2021-03-30T23:21:35Z
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@Coyote If the US kept to ourselves, independent, and free, we wouldn't be threatened by North Korea or China.Switzerland has some of the strongest military in the world. Guess how many wars they fought in the past 120 years? 0 They are independent (non-EU, was non-UN) and a beacon of freedom for both Jews and Nazis during WWII. We can be a Switzerland. Our country was founded by people who had Swiss ideals.Strong, independent, free, and leave everyone the %$#@ alone!
(DIR) Post #A5kcPgWKPfGdix2OBM by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T23:31:53.350383Z
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@StampedingLonghorn Yup, yup, yup. But no one will allow it, and they haven’t allowed it for a long time (see my earlier “we haven’t been free since before 1900” post? https://tucson.claims/@Coyote/posts/A5k82X9LrOArVOeATo ).I mentioned a while back, if anyone really wanted to address how Anti-“America First” Dr. Seuss believed he needed to be, he made the “eats children” drawing, convinced he was showing us all that isolationism was pro-Nazi.Everyone wants to think every issue is a HUGE thing that answers everything, and one person (Trump, Hitler, Biden) is pure good, or pure evil, and ignore the fact that one person, organization, or structure can contain both good and evil.America First was isolationism, in the 1940s, and Dr. Seuss believed “America First” (infiltrated by BOTH the Marxists and Nazis to exploit the growing power of the movement) was a binary organization, that was equivalent to Nazis.Radical symbolism and propaganda only work when the public is blind to the simple smaller resolutions (we need stimulus, not foreign funding and abortion funding) we give up power blindly for, to be mildly appeased.Don’t look how the sausage is made. You might see blood. Is the blood on your hands for a “good reason,” or just because you wanted others to do some bullshit thing you thought was important, that half the fucking world doesn’t agree with?Truely though. All questions in the wind. There is no government we have now that is uncorrupt enough to test if any fucking fundamental principle would actually work. But, hey, decentralize it, let some micro commune try it, maybe we can learn something. NOT going to learn ANYTHING with BIG government.
(DIR) Post #A5kdKSF0AyvjwY0FsG by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T23:42:09.112308Z
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@StampedingLonghorn footnote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee
(DIR) Post #A5kdkK0bPETrwNbP7Y by StampedingLonghorn@social.linux.pizza
2021-03-30T23:46:15Z
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@Coyote I definitely agree. That was the point of states when our country was first founded. Our 10th amendment rights are being trampled everyday in the name of some social movement.Your post mentions the republic ideal worked until repressed people stopped migrating to America. That is an interesting point. Very good point indeed. I'll have to ponder that over. I keep mulling the idea of immigration.
(DIR) Post #A5ke2t2rsbCHoiVxx2 by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-30T23:50:10.716021Z
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@StampedingLonghorn “Your post mentions the republic ideal worked until repressed people stopped migrating to America.”Yes, generally, however, I’d be very careful with the word “repressed.” No 5G and latest gen iPhone for all is not “repressed,” despite what it appears is all that is needed to immigrate now? Or so we are lead to believe. IF, “no free rides, but no high taxes” was a place they wanted to go, maybe it’d be different? But, that’s not what’s happening.
(DIR) Post #A5liLCcgQHiiiuDRnU by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T12:13:02Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 According to WHO, there is no more Flu cases, they are all stopped since 2020. none in 2021 either. What hasn't stopped is COVID-19, there was a 1st Wave, then masks laws, COVID didn't care, 2nd Wave, now we have vaccines, if there is a 3rd Wave, our "experts" are about to be humbled on a world stage by 1 virus. End of 2021 will be "interesting"
(DIR) Post #A5m4ySPlqESPzBIcZk by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T16:26:37Z
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@TruthAndFreedom What? Thats not remotely true.. The WHO of course has shown a reduced number of flu cases.. but stopped at 0, no that isnt what the WHO or their data claims.@pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5m57K8lyRf2vjZoRM by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T16:28:15Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 flu hospitalizations and deaths are over. It is confirmed by WHO and even CDCRIP Flu 1918-2020
(DIR) Post #A5m5836AoxJuMhhs8W by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T16:28:12Z
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@TruthAndFreedom In fact here is a chart from the WHO showing recorded flu cases every week in 2020 and 2021. As you can clearly see the numbers are reduced from normal but not stopped or at 0.@pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5m5P7xbzui8MoqUJk by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T16:31:27Z
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@TruthAndFreedom Dude you are making this shit up..I already showed you the who data of Flu cases which are still very much a thing and not "stopped"... now your talking about death.The WHo numbers also continue to show people die from the flu, here is a link of the weekly report including flu deaths and as you can clearly see they are reporting flu deaths every week up to and including this one:https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htmWhat your saying has no basis in reality.@pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5m5bvMAAcXJ2bQnBI by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T16:33:46Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 how many Flu deaths happened in the World in 2021? vs 2019?it's over, just accept Flu has died, "cured" by COVID-19 (and next will be COVID-21)
(DIR) Post #A5m5jO8LZlaiJpWnQW by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T16:35:07Z
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@TruthAndFreedom It was reduced when we were all in lockdown and wearing masks, as we expected it to... thats not the same as "cured"... what are you even on about.@pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5m5qVayERWPUJJNlg by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T16:36:25Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 COVID-19 killed 2.8 million during that time, that includes Mask laws, border closures, etc https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/next is Vaccines, if the 3rd Wave blast through that too, we are in for a wild end to 2021
(DIR) Post #A5m5vZUn9r9X24psjQ by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T16:37:19Z
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@TruthAndFreedom Yes we all know the tragic deaths caused by COVID, I though you were talking about the flu... stay on topic.@pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5m64bKtgVypLYVt3Y by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T16:38:58Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 I'm on topic: COVID-19 killed the FluCOVID-19 will do more killing this year too, vaccines will fail to stop deaths like mask have already. Make it 3 masks, the viral spread still occurs, no stopping viruses like this
(DIR) Post #A5m6FuCHtqcD1qsPSa by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T16:40:58Z
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@TruthAndFreedom You claimed earlier COVID stopped the flu and it was cured.. now your saying what the medical community says, that masks wont cure it only reduce the numbers and COVID has continued to kill along with the flu.So now your saying what I kept saying but you kept disagreeing with... which is it?@pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5m6TLVDgriHTn8n7Q by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T16:43:26Z
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@freemo the end of 2021 will be bad when COVID-19(or COVID-21) blasts through vaccines, masks, lockdowns, border closures, basically everything "medical experts" say will work. it will fail in an epic wayso I say now: brace for impact. The end of 2021 will be ugly, could be as bad as 2001 ended
(DIR) Post #A5m6dsviGNuG33YfZY by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T16:45:20Z
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@TruthAndFreedom Ok so are you still saying flu is dead or are you taking that back and saying you were incorrect?
(DIR) Post #A5m6l1LBOGuOA2sFdY by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T16:46:37Z
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@freemo I stand by all my toots ;)please re-read them if they are not clear
(DIR) Post #A5m6w689vDh6Cb43DU by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T16:48:37Z
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@TruthAndFreedom I mean i literally linked you direct to the WHO data that proved you were completely wrong abou tthe who claiming flu and flu death went to 0... so yea pretty telling that you stick by it in the fact of how easily debunked that is
(DIR) Post #A5m6xKZlhSw9IEZAno by servant_of_the_anime_avatars@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-31T16:48:50.733729Z
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@freemo @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 This seems quite dishonest.Look at https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htmCompare the time around the first few weeks for 2021 and the previous years. The numbers are barely existent for 2021, massive for 2020 and very significant for the previous years.Clearly the prevalence of the flu has gone down drastically during the pandemic.Btw. I didn't manage to find the FluView data from the last seasons, only these "vague" results. Did you manage to find them? Do they mirror what I found?
(DIR) Post #A5m75Nhpwit7JlBA9o by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T16:50:18Z
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@servant_of_the_anime_avatars he does not toot in good faith, be careful
(DIR) Post #A5m76ANeyWraHN7F0i by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T16:50:16Z
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@servant_of_the_anime_avatars Whats dishonest, thats exactly what I said, numbers are reduced, but the flu is not extinct... you literally just repeated what I said and added the word dishonest.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5m78ZmdV0NJdywn7w by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T16:50:53Z
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@freemo @servant_of_the_anime_avatars Flu deaths are over, it's a wrap, COVID-19 is taken over and killing millions at it
(DIR) Post #A5m7IYDy9PRZhiULWy by servant_of_the_anime_avatars@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-31T16:52:41.642834Z
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@freemo @TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 I assume people use things like basic rhetoric. When they say "extinct" they don't mean literally extinct, but severely reduced.Of someone seriously claimed the flu numbers are literally at zero and you responded to that I am sorry for calling you dishonest.
(DIR) Post #A5m7IajEq7e1TH8LY0 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T16:52:41Z
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@TruthAndFreedom I already linked you to the WHO data showing Flu deaths continue to occur. They are reduced, as is expected from a global quarantine and mask usage.. but they arent "over"... lift the quarantine and they go right back to their usual numbers.@servant_of_the_anime_avatars
(DIR) Post #A5m7RzvoVP70F6V7aa by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T16:54:24Z
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@servant_of_the_anime_avatars @pthenq1 there is 1 place safe from COVID-19 deaths, that is New York State. they are nearly at 80% herd immunity, Andrew Cuomo is some mad genius, history will remember him
(DIR) Post #A5m7SUUwrL2f2lAbWC by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T16:54:23Z
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@servant_of_the_anime_avatars He said, as he just repeated, that flu deaths are "over" and "its a wrap".. in virology we do hit 0 with certain diseases, we eradicated smallpox for example. It is doable.. But with flu we are no where near that, cases have been reduced because everyone is wearing masks and staying in side, but it maintains background levels and will quickly resestablish ones thats over.@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5m7Wajbc9glXlytd2 by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T16:55:13Z
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@freemo @servant_of_the_anime_avatarsdeaths are over. RIP Flu 1918-2020she had her run, now it's Rona's turn
(DIR) Post #A5m7Ys4O8L5nt3mz68 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T16:55:38Z
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@TruthAndFreedom yea your talking nonsense sorry
(DIR) Post #A5m7cQwCx2ratgf4Wu by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T16:56:17Z
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@freemo data supports my toots. COVID-19 killed 2.8 million since March 2020where is the Flu deaths? gone
(DIR) Post #A5m7jxBZSA2cwHQvAm by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T16:57:37Z
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@TruthAndFreedom I linked you to the flu deaths already.. There were about 50,000 flu deaths in the USA in 2020 as per the link I shared... not "gone"
(DIR) Post #A5m7o3N2Oq8VHOkfJI by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T16:58:23Z
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@freemo since March 2020, those deaths haven't occurredalso 2021, no Flu deaths. zero, nothing, just COVID-19(soon to renamed to COVID-21)
(DIR) Post #A5m7zqv0WQek8RGcFM by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T17:00:17Z
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@TruthAndFreedom Are you even looking at the data or just making stuff up.. yes of course there are recorded flu deaths after march2020..
(DIR) Post #A5m82ENoFi2XUKsC36 by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T17:00:57Z
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@freemo good luck in 2021 :)
(DIR) Post #A5m8EnrABlO8yxb8SG by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T17:02:47Z
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@TruthAndFreedom I literally linked you to data showing there are deaths from the flu in all of 2020 and even in 2021.. so your just making shit up at this point.
(DIR) Post #A5m8Pfr8H5qJM2lcyu by servant_of_the_anime_avatars@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-31T17:05:11.161271Z
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@TruthAndFreedom @freemo >where is the Flu deaths?0 people the week before last week, 4 people the week before that, 14 people the week before that, 14 people the week before that.Definitely significantly less, about 1/20th less than last year. Hardly zero.
(DIR) Post #A5m8S46V5o4h8Z5zU0 by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T17:05:37Z
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@freemo I found this link, reporting 2,821,039 COVID-19 deaths since March 2020 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/do you have a similar link on Flu deaths since March 2020? how about 2021?
(DIR) Post #A5m8V57LmQrn9LvoGm by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T17:06:09Z
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@servant_of_the_anime_avatars @freemo I see, so how many Flu deaths in 2021? for the whole world?
(DIR) Post #A5m8jKvBooOeDd2a2q by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T17:08:43Z
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@TruthAndFreedom I linked you the data, dont you know, or did you just pull statements out of your ass and not view the numbers... (hint its > 0 and while reduced from usual not at all outside of what was expected)@servant_of_the_anime_avatars
(DIR) Post #A5m8sC2yBPpHIju2tM by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T17:10:20Z
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@freemo good luck in life, enjoy. peace
(DIR) Post #A5m8xz4TL7L6nMMoZk by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T17:11:22Z
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@TruthAndFreedom sure will thanks, you too
(DIR) Post #A5mB91H1gtsSigd3T6 by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-31T17:35:46.583131Z
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@servant_of_the_anime_avatars @TruthAndFreedom @freemo so I ask "flu deaths in which area"?I would say, though, that the statistics are probably flawed, because there may be vested interests in filling in the form where it says "cause of death" as "flu" or "Covid"some may write flu because eh, if I write "Covid" they close the hospitalor write Covid because eh, if the statistics fall down we are not battling the Covids and being the exceptionally holy ones and moneys :-/unfortunately it's political now, like writing as cause of death"hunger" (code T73.0)"unemployment" (Z65.0)"cigarettes" (F17.2)"cheap alcohol" (F10.2)all valid ICD codes which could be written as cause of death but who would write them?
(DIR) Post #A5mBIYTBdblaHXrbyS by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T17:37:30Z
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@wikifarms I try to follow global stats, so that these "margin of errors" get smoothed out when looking at all 7.8 billion, vs 1 place. Is there a better one than this? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
(DIR) Post #A5mBrFGp0qxis5cbpo by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-31T17:43:46.089602Z
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@StampedingLonghorn Lot’s of issues here. The obvious one is that the leftists of today have “canceled” the propaganda cartoonist who once took an unpopular position against American Isolationism, making it equivalent to being a Nazi, and attacked a group that JFK and Gerald Ford were members of. (ending in preposition, not a crime).
(DIR) Post #A5mCHIpkO3VJS5NnzU by epic@gleasonator.com
2021-03-31T17:48:29.847981Z
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@TruthAndFreedom That’s all the world’s cases? That’s the total killed in those cases? What a bunch of clowns we are, eh? All running around bumping into each other ruining lives and economies, switching forms of government.It’s like I don’t even know y’all anymore. 😉 @wikifarms
(DIR) Post #A5mD9gl3eXKvI17fpg by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-31T17:58:18.731389Z
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@TruthAndFreedom I think this is a good website too :-)did you really study Chomsky as in "real study" or did you just read about him on your own? I ask nicely :-) if I say linguistics, Foucault, green colourless, Ricoeur, etc. is it all spergery and trolling?
(DIR) Post #A5mDLpstXy1b4Na45g by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T18:00:31Z
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@wikifarms I studied his media and foreign policy criticism, not his official job in Linguistics. books, speeches, on repeat, did my own research, to verify his claims, decades worth of work
(DIR) Post #A5mDtWGUztYi4EgOlk by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-31T18:06:35.514989Z
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@epic @TruthAndFreedom well yes, people are stupid and don't think:still says like last year 3% of cases resulted in deathfewer people than cigarettesfewer people than heart diseasefewer people than a sedentary lifestylefewer people than hungermore people than many rare diseases though3 million deaths from this virus (cumulative, says the website)about 600,000 every year die from the common flu but that's every year, with available vaccines :-/
(DIR) Post #A5mDyyMByowkdlwiZM by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-31T18:07:35.283762Z
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@TruthAndFreedom ok thanks for the normal answer :-) interesting :-)
(DIR) Post #A5mE85nLh9NmJbzsq8 by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T18:09:14Z
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@wikifarms lol, if you ever have 1 question on Chomsky, I know the answer ;)example: Chomsky was never mentioned in the mainstream until it became known he would vote for Biden in 2020, like this is "news", he has always voted democrat since he become political active in 1967 lol, I find it funny but happy he is becoming less fringe
(DIR) Post #A5mEgtZT8QWeXU6GoK by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-31T18:15:31.052328Z
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@TruthAndFreedom well, but who is surprised the masses don't know Chomsky? did you follow the Chomsky v. Foucault thing? are you an orthodox Chomskian or do you disagree with some things? but how can you separate Chomsky from linguistics????
(DIR) Post #A5mF2iNXQduYCHvLYe by phicyclist@liberdon.com
2021-03-31T18:19:28Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @TruthAndFreedomThe influenza virus changes continuously.We've known plenty about coronaviruses for decades.Do the research first, then make claims.https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/viruses/change.htm
(DIR) Post #A5mF7reEORoAORBgMi by phicyclist@liberdon.com
2021-03-31T18:20:23Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @TruthAndFreedomAs for the vaccine passport, it is a direct violation of numerous international laws & treaties including UNESCO Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights & the Nuremberg Code, both of which have been adopted by over 180 countries.https://en.unesco.org/themes/ethics-science-and-technology/bioethics-and-human-rightshttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Code
(DIR) Post #A5mFBfTlZvfFoK6eoq by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T18:21:05Z
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@phicyclist @pthenq1 @freemo democracy is over, they are gonna make this law by force, not vote
(DIR) Post #A5mFEILE3ogUv2MddY by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T18:21:34Z
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@phicyclist @pthenq1 @freemo this was posted in October 2019, it was true then, but not anymore
(DIR) Post #A5mFhf6eV427vAYDEu by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T18:26:51Z
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@wikifarms what surprised me was 2016, two main things Chomsky would say in the 1990s was "media is lying daily, manufacturing consent" and that "NAFTA was attacking the middle class and poor, had nothing to do with trade" and suddenly the term "fake news" is popular globally, and "free trade" deals are being labeled as "bad", including Globalization. I never imagined this would change from the 1990s to 2016I'm aware of the Chomsky v Foucault debate but never researched it
(DIR) Post #A5mFk2nzMJ2k08xOhE by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T18:27:17Z
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@wikifarms Chomsky specifically says "don't trust what he says" so I took that advice literally and would vet him on his opinions, analysis, etc. His main thing was "institutional analysis", saying that from President to President, foreign policy doesn't shift, which means policy is not set from the President but intelligentsia(which is now called "deep state" by others)
(DIR) Post #A5mFoOuj6KrVjEBagS by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T18:28:05Z
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@wikifarms I separate Chomsky from his job because how I was first exposed to him(1992 doc on his opinion of corporate media, not language) and he even says they are separate things, there is no connection between his job and his work he is famous internationally for. I think after Chomsky's death, he will become more known, like George Orwell had his most popular year in 2020
(DIR) Post #A5mGbIpaVQJT3J6Ica by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-31T18:36:55.516933Z
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@TruthAndFreedom yes, so as a suggestion, not as discussion on "who's better" since you are so interested in Noam Chomsky you will probably like History of Madness and History of Violence by Michel Foucault, I think they will complement nicely your Chomsky readingsik Chomsky tries to compartmentalise his thought, but imho people are not sterile and one thing bleeds into another.But look, on the one hand you say I know everything about Chomsky, on the other hand you haven't read his linguistic work, I see a contradiction there. Maybe - just a tiny idea - if you read his linguistic work you would complement your picture of Chomsky and be able to see the "full Chomsky"
(DIR) Post #A5mGrRjVB1DnIIx4bo by phicyclist@liberdon.com
2021-03-31T18:39:50Z
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@TruthAndFreedom @pthenq1 @freemoYes, apparently all the rules of nature have been modified within the last few years. The latest coronavirus & transgenders have demonstrated it is so.As for me: I know God is watching.
(DIR) Post #A5mGuwjgMhIsJhhmW8 by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T18:40:28Z
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@phicyclist if you know about God, you know what he told Noah "start building a boat"
(DIR) Post #A5mHyaWyxpT2Yv46mO by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T18:52:20Z
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@wikifarms Michel Foucault suggestion may be too late for me, I've "graduated" from politics, moving on to simpler understanding "what is true?" and then try to share that with others, even if we disagree on everything else, at least "sprinkle some truth on them" and move alongChomsky says he and others are able to do this compartmentalization. They can pause and restart conversations, even if it has been 2 years since speaking to them and not touched that topic for 2 years
(DIR) Post #A5mI4k8OAily5GUrTs by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T18:53:27Z
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@wikifarms I don't think there is a Chomsky question you can ask that I do not know ;) except if it's about his job, I don't follow who sends him paycheques and for what work he did to earn them :)I'm filled with contradictions, it's the only way I can be true to myself. Every morning, I never make my bed but I insist my work desk to be neat and tidy before I start work and even when I leave for the day. That makes "no sense" but it's my nature to be like this, so it is wise to "know thyself"
(DIR) Post #A5mKj69nuWclsVWsPg by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-31T19:23:09Z
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@TruthAndFreedomNah. Democracy is not over. 😁@phicyclist @freemo
(DIR) Post #A5mKwgQEOE4A7Hgsuu by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T19:25:37Z
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@pthenq1 wait...
(DIR) Post #A5mL65co3VX8t73exU by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-31T19:27:15Z
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@freemoVaccination will not be mandatory.There's a record of your vaccines right now, shared by the states, so it is nothing new.If you applied a any vaccine in the past, it is recorded there. There're massive events like games, cruisers or concerts that could required this requirement of all participants being vaccinated.And if someone refuse, then no problem. All good.@TruthAndFreedom
(DIR) Post #A5mLDISIkZjKhya58y by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T19:28:37Z
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@pthenq1 democracy ended in post 9/11, they just didn't make it official until 2020. Now it will just get worse, until we hit rock bottom
(DIR) Post #A5mLNesOFG418niywK by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-31T19:30:28Z
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@TruthAndFreedomI do not believe democracy ended.I believe that the GOP is not so democratic now because everyday it's supporters are less.But democracy is healthy and strong
(DIR) Post #A5mLYWEeiCl7WkJla4 by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T19:32:27Z
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@pthenq1 I'm taking about the global. 9/11 happened in New York City but the rest of the world population felt it, and had effects that have rippled all over. Causing a young Julian Assange to start a website, a young Edward Snowden to first sign up to work for his government, now he works for the citizens, not the governmentMore and more things are happening, should wrap by 2025 though, rock bottom by then
(DIR) Post #A5mLvYBrbr1CFbzhU8 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T19:36:30Z
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@pthenq1It will be effectively mandatory. By creating a centralized registery and universal way to identify publicly who is vaccinated the result of that is you will quickly find it is mendatory to participate in any sort of public activity. In fact it will get to the point where companies willhave to deal with liability concerns if they dont, effectively making it a requirement regardless of the personal views of the person running the venue. There’s a record of your vaccines right now, shared by the states, so it is nothing new.Please stop making things up you know nothing about, this is completely false. There is no federal-level record of vaccines. There arent even state level registers of this information!To quote the CDC: Unfortunately, there is no national organization that maintains vaccination records. The CDC does not have this information. The records that exist are the ones you or your parents were given when the vaccines were administered and the ones in the medical record of the doctor or clinic where the vaccines were given.https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/adults/vaccination-records.html#:~:text=Unfortunately%2C%20there%20is%20no%20national,where%20the%20vaccines%20were%20given. There’re massive events like games, cruisers or concerts that could required this requirement of all participants being vaccinated.That and resteraunts, and supermarkets, and pretty much everywhere else. You will quickly find that those running a business will have liability pressures placed on them if they do not screen for vaccinated people. And if someone refuse, then no problem. All good.No, big problem.. in such a world if someone refuses they wont be able to have much of a life and be excluded from entering any building in all likelihood (or atleast the vast majority). They will even be excluded from flying to leave the country.
(DIR) Post #A5mNPp1jfxEd6uFtTM by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-31T19:53:14Z
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@freemoThe vaccine record exists. I saw mine. You can ask for yours too.
(DIR) Post #A5mTq2HJd6T9SkQRwu by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-31T21:05:13.072886Z
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@TruthAndFreedom actually you see Foucault is not going to be directly politics, just try, it's interesting :-)
(DIR) Post #A5mU0gLjV6AAdZZISu by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-31T21:07:10.993308Z
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@TruthAndFreedom what film did Chomsky see the first time with a girl?idk and neither do you :-)
(DIR) Post #A5mU2ExeIjXAGy2vtQ by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T21:07:28Z
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@wikifarms cool. I don't think it will happen, I've moved on from studying 1 person, now I'm trying to find truths, don't care for political things anymore except what it says about human nature(which is fixed)
(DIR) Post #A5mU5rHEIgIFyYvjVo by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T21:08:06Z
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@wikifarms it was with Carol Chomsky, that is for sure :)
(DIR) Post #A5mUTMCJVJ5KXEpsdE by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-31T21:12:21.857477Z
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@TruthAndFreedom ah but you can read Foucault critically, like Chomsky he makes you notice certain things like time.Also - and I am not saying she is "right" - but it's interesting and it's a small book, try "Illness as a Metaphor" by Susan Sonntag
(DIR) Post #A5mUZdO8VCg9aYMJZA by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-03-31T21:13:29Z
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@wikifarms I see.honestly, the ship has sailed, you missed it ;)but if you do have a question on Chomsky, I'm a resource :)
(DIR) Post #A5mUye4x4VuUyCJOUq by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-31T21:18:01.665214Z
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@TruthAndFreedom ok I will bear it in mind :-)
(DIR) Post #A5mYOPsslls8Kze9aK by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-31T21:56:12Z
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@pthenq1 What state in the USA do you live in and how did you access this national registry you speak of?
(DIR) Post #A5mqQo2HkA0YzrKl2u by phicyclist@liberdon.com
2021-04-01T01:18:24Z
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@TruthAndFreedomAs in the end it will be like the days of Noah & Lot.Then it was cleansing by water. This time it will be by fire. Either Elon Musk needs to get his folks working faster or the only hope we have is still Jesus!
(DIR) Post #A5noptjbgfrpA0OUoi by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-04-01T12:35:15Z
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@phicyclist lol, have you seen reports on the Magnetic North Pole is shifting? also volcanoes are waking up all over the world... it gonna be a wild 21st century
(DIR) Post #A5nyI11T5D9VSZENH6 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-04-01T14:20:26Z
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@freemoI didn't access. In Georgia, it was accessed by a nurse using some hospital system. And later, it was accessed in California by other nurse using other hospital system. My vaccines were in the record and they were the same.
(DIR) Post #A5o1y7NQ9HdpBwGatU by freemo@qoto.org
2021-04-01T15:02:15Z
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@pthenq1That isnt a national registry. Thats because you got vaccinated at a doctor or hospital associates with thar hospitals network. It was just tour private medical records. Inwas vaccinated with a private doctor not part of a hospital network so they would be unable tonfind my vaccine record (ive tried )
(DIR) Post #A5o2eF6jnOIjKaY9Wi by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-04-01T15:09:52Z
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@freemoOkay. Un my case it was in both cases different health providers.
(DIR) Post #A5o2mNjTc2kyOgYCsi by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-04-01T15:11:27Z
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@freemoOkay. In my case there were different health providers.
(DIR) Post #A5o2onJ5Uym8IHMFZg by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-04-01T15:11:52Z
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@freemoOkay. In my case they were different health providers.
(DIR) Post #A5o3DU3mCBDlq8y8lU by freemo@qoto.org
2021-04-01T15:16:14Z
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@pthenq1 doesnt matter they were in the same **network**... If I go to thomas Jefferson Hospital or a doctor associated with it, then St. Agnes hospital or a doctor associated with them could assess my health records... However if I go to an independent doctor not in a hospital network then my records are lost. Likewise if I go to a different hospital in a different records network they wont have access either.Nothing about this is remotely close to a national registry.
(DIR) Post #A5otSBlG4LimmLq5oW by phicyclist@liberdon.com
2021-04-02T01:01:42Z
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@TruthAndFreedomI have. We're in for food shortages, rising heating costs & mass cold deaths due to horrible policies.God's judgement is a different story.
(DIR) Post #A5qtup2E25cb0aLgdE by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-04-03T00:16:19Z
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@phicyclist true, where do you live? if you don't mind me asking. I'm in Ontario, Canada
(DIR) Post #A5r5n2U7LEOPr7Ryim by phicyclist@liberdon.com
2021-04-03T02:29:23Z
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@TruthAndFreedomPuerto Rico for as long as it remains possible to live mask and "vaccine"-free.Are you familiar with Martin Armstrong?https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/blog/
(DIR) Post #A5r6t38dvLsnZgpsDQ by TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
2021-04-03T02:41:40Z
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@phicyclist Puerto Rico seems to be a good spot, I ask because the "climate change" concerns are actually "earth change" and it is gonna be much worse than others imaginenever heard of Martin Armstrong, are they on social media?