Post A5k4pJ2suxay0PJMFE by slovborg@poa.st
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(DIR) Post #A5jqiv0zx0GSNfUMnA by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T14:37:19.603452Z
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the latest vaxxer cope: "The blood clots are overblown!!!". Niggas are sounding like people who rightly view the COVID deaths as propaganda numbers, the exact people who they claim aren't "following the science".Meanwhile from a game theory perspective it makes no sense to pull the vaccine if the vaccines deaths were even equal to COVID. The vaccine risks must be many orders of magnitude greater for it to justify suspending them.
(DIR) Post #A5jqqztXgwzBpcqzE8 by collappsar@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T14:38:59.269730Z
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@crunklord420 That would be a costly enterprise, and plus we'd have to admit we did something wrong. That's very bad for business.
(DIR) Post #A5jqvygnbLOXXaGflQ by takao@shitposter.club
2021-03-30T14:39:53.925116Z
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@crunklord420 >it makes no sense to pull the vaccineAlternatively, politicians are whores who will do anything to stay in power while societies are exhausted by the restrictions and very, very distrustful.
(DIR) Post #A5jqytpE8sgRK8bSWu by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T14:40:24.963429Z
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@takao the propaganda says getting a vaccine is not justification for "return to normal".
(DIR) Post #A5jrIW2OIHjtL678s4 by smooky@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-03-30T14:43:56.813309Z
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@crunklord420 if its even equal to covid then there is no point. and we all know how nothing covid is so then the vaccines are probably bad enough to pull
(DIR) Post #A5js2zsnf6V9DvnB2m by guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info
2021-03-30T14:52:21.822455Z
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@crunklord420 At this point, I cannot trust anything governments says on the matter because enough lives have been lost and ruined by the actions they have been mandated, that saying or admitting any kind of mistake, on any level (be it any actions done with sinister intent, ignoring science when it was convenient or overconfidence in bad experts) on their part would have people out for their blood, possibly literally. So their self-preservation instincts will not allow them to admit any mistake, not for years. We might only get to hear the truth once they feel people have calmed down and forgotten and won't literally guillotine them for it.If it turns out the vaccines were a bad idea, you can be CERTAIN that they will try to spin as "but the people skeptical of it were still wrong" because while they could possibly waive it away by saying medicine is tough and doesn't always get everything right the first time, they simply cannot admit that they have been crushing dissenting opinions that were right all along.
(DIR) Post #A5jsjc83r0XU0LFfdI by PunishedD@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T15:00:03.180527Z
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@crunklord420 @takao Nothing is justification for returning to normal.Nobody ever gets fired, sued, criticized, or impeached for saying "be more careful" or "do more safety precautions". You do get in trouble for being on record as the guy who says "enough safety, we need to get moving". Either things work out or they don't; but you don't get credit for the former, you only risk blame for the latter.This has been the stupidity of the Covid mess from day 1. It has been intentionally framed to ratchet into fear and eternal restrictive precautions. There is no way to publicly back out of the feedback loop.
(DIR) Post #A5jx1qQXpettNWqV3A by thatfightnerd@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T15:48:11.021984Z
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@crunklord420 "But it's called a vaccine, so it must work like a vaccine, right?"Manufacturers: well, yes, but actually no.
(DIR) Post #A5jx6QqEO2C9TR31W4 by tard@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T15:48:59.964546Z
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@crunklord420 I'm sure you would take a 10% chance of fatality vaccine then since it's just a couple orders of magnitude riskier than COVID :smonk:
(DIR) Post #A5jxC0aEvSzTm2E8cy by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T15:50:00.880516Z
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@tard you basing that off propaganda numbers?
(DIR) Post #A5jxJXPPHSoBbfka4u by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T15:51:21.874143Z
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@crunklord420They unironically keep the "next two weeks" meme alive. They truly believe that this is "an unknown virus" (known since the sixties but unknown somehow?) and that it's totally "unpredictable", therefore... keep the fear and exceptions going until "the authorities" tell us to go back to logic.A lot of whatifism. "What if tHe viRuZ all of a sudden turns out to be a the worst thing that ever happened? Better risk to get a bell's palsy, buddy!"They suspend logic and embrace fallacies, all for that sweet sweet dopamine, yeah, feeling superior is better than anything. You can't feel SMORT if you question authorities because you can't virtue signal anymore.
(DIR) Post #A5jxRdAXkRCNmwenbc by tard@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T15:52:50.024894Z
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@crunklord420 What's the COVID risk of death then? I only remember 0.1% because something like that was being thrown around last year when I was actually paying attention to this shit.
(DIR) Post #A5k0c8yQeb1nBehAHo by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:28:18.858182Z
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@tard lolo the COVID risk of death is way lower than 0.1%, that's insane. No one knows the true number because of the lack of real criteria.I refuse to believe the vaccine risk is equal or lower to COVID risk within the majority of demographics. It would make sense medically, or politically to suspend vaccines for equal risk case.
(DIR) Post #A5k0e575ydGJnHfmSG by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:28:40.595638Z
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@tard it wouldn't make sense*
(DIR) Post #A5k0rN0Wl5cB3WwAcK by tard@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:31:06.805558Z
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@crunklord420 So you would take a vaccine with double the 100x the risk of death as COVID? You said it has to be many orders of magnitude more.
(DIR) Post #A5k1QLUyMQ9iVlr648 by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:37:25.297901Z
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@tard my risk of COVID exposure is very low, my prognosis for COVID is very positive, my potential to transmit COVID is very low. I wouldn't take the vaccine even if it was equal risk, it wouldn't make sense, medically.Everyone has different risk profiles.
(DIR) Post #A5k1b0mXizxtRg9xiq by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T16:39:22.063268Z
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@crunklord420 @tard yeah I guess that explains the 1% total population dead of COVID in Mexico City
(DIR) Post #A5k1eUKgJS1PxomlHc by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:39:58.680888Z
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@slovborg @tard lol is that a real number?
(DIR) Post #A5k1lFQA9UMvk9ZYUy by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T16:41:13.089815Z
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@crunklord420 COVID itself causes blood clots, majority of those hospitalised have dangerously elevated blood clotting factors. No need to even do the maths here, simple handwaving is enough to realise you're extra wrong here, and it is in fact your position that is a cope bc you fear the needle.
(DIR) Post #A5k1oQUZRjwsws9MDg by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T16:41:47.588234Z
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@crunklord420 @tard Yes, you need to consider that Mexico is actually trying to hide the real numbers even (they've been downplaying it A LOT)
(DIR) Post #A5k24Qq9v4e8f5sbaq by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:44:38.210455Z
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@slovborg there is no math to be done, the numbers don't exist. The propaganda is so thick that you can only use game theory to come to conclusions. It's clear that health authorities believe AstraZeneca is significantly more risky than getting COVID19. That it's so risky that reducing transmission and mutation does not outweigh the elevated risk to the individual. It's so risky that they're willing to damage their own propaganda and vaccination efforts. The risk of the vaccine has to be astronomical to do that.
(DIR) Post #A5k27ncvejFQCaIUUK by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:45:15.932562Z
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@crunklord420 @slovborg @tard no, it's √-1 :-)
(DIR) Post #A5k29HUy4zXp8XHQqu by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:45:32.976428Z
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@slovborg @tard fake news etc
(DIR) Post #A5k2DC32HoaVOH53YG by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T16:46:16.125786Z
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@crunklord420 The anti-AstraZeneca drive is large part dirty play by competing vaccine producers, and you retards are falling for it.It's clear which countries this concernstroking is coming from: the countries which produce competing vaccines and their propaganda media (Germany and US with Pfizer, Russia with Sputnik V)
(DIR) Post #A5k2IJxiHzHRNr2IPA by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:47:09.919795Z
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@slovborg now who is playing conspiracy theorist? :^)
(DIR) Post #A5k2JsYZ9Zngxx15Au by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T16:47:28.637736Z
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@crunklord420 @tard Yeah and when they'll have alarmingly deflated pop numbers at next census you'll try downplaying it as "they must've all emigrated to US" lol
(DIR) Post #A5k2KSXPNMGUYmkfMu by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:47:33.903327Z
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@crunklord420 @slovborg not really, just politics and supporting one's "own" company and money deals we don't know about
(DIR) Post #A5k2Mkcd6sodE6HqDo by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T16:47:59.796359Z
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@crunklord420 Understanding how politics and business work is not conspiracy theorism.
(DIR) Post #A5k2OYNFcR3vopx8ng by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:48:19.063850Z
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@slovborg @crunklord420 exactly
(DIR) Post #A5k2PmNZ2ATFXogSq8 by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:48:31.665811Z
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@slovborg I can and will repeat the exact same thing back to regarding everything you said :^)
(DIR) Post #A5k2VqeE4lDAWNN50q by akeno@liberdon.com
2021-03-30T16:49:37Z
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@crunklord420 @tard https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-around-the-world-have-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/
(DIR) Post #A5k2Xdu0QymvZSbkWG by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T16:49:57.863422Z
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@wikifarms @crunklord420 The biggest irony here is that AstraZeneca isn't even mRNA yet most of the vaguest statements why some don't trust the vaccine use the crutch of saying "they don't trust the new technology because it hasn't been tested for decades yet".
(DIR) Post #A5k2XwJpxg96gmpdHU by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:50:00.239195Z
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@wikifarms @slovborg either way I have a rule about needing at least a year worth of beta testing of the vaccine. Whenever something like the AstraZeneca issue happens the clock resets.Maybe I'll get a vaccine in a few years.
(DIR) Post #A5k2dn5tAlg1oe67RA by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:51:04.276148Z
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@crunklord420 @slovborg but this about vaccine sales politics is right. Wait until the vaccines are actually sold in pharmacies, then the money will be clearer.A real dangerous disease would have entailed compulsory licensing.
(DIR) Post #A5k2egVf8dyPgVZykK by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T16:51:14.229910Z
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@crunklord420 @wikifarms At least a year is already there. AstraZeneca vaccine was fully finished in February 2020 already, everything since has been betatesting.
(DIR) Post #A5k2hHEBameo8vdnMG by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:51:41.364560Z
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@slovborg @wikifarms imagine how bad the mRNA vaccines are if the AstraZeneca was bad? :^)We'll see, I'm not against vaccinations as a broad concept. There's just no reason to trust any government, health authority or vaccine company. They've demonstrated a rate of being wrong 100% of the time, initially. We'll see how it pans out in a few years.
(DIR) Post #A5k2jTLfUzS2JWBgu0 by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:52:05.158216Z
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@slovborg @wikifarms it failed the beta test, the clock resets.
(DIR) Post #A5k2prIrLgV6LTv2VE by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:53:14.220948Z
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@slovborg @wikifarms also I'm not gonna get into too many details. But you have no idea how long people have had access to vaccines in my country, and which varieties they have access to. I'll tell you it hasn't been a year.
(DIR) Post #A5k2r8CC1p6n1gPKa0 by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T16:53:29.205597Z
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@crunklord420 You see the difference between my and yours position is that I understand how competition works, while yours require a coordinated cabal of each and every pharma company, including the ones based in third countries such as Russia.I think if there were anything wrong with the data pushed out by some, you'd see opposing statements coming from those countries.Just like there have been opposing statements regarding the gravity of early outbreak in China at the very beginning.
(DIR) Post #A5k31uzvRDntHMoTq4 by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T16:55:26.148237Z
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@crunklord420 @wikifarms Taiwan has been 100% right since the very start, so I guess I'll trust whatever Taiwan does :^)
(DIR) Post #A5k333sbtt8h7Ew8nI by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:55:35.875968Z
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@slovborg you're on an entirely other layer of abstraction. The reality is no one knows anything about anything and the data simply doesn't exist.
(DIR) Post #A5k35mn7tKAYzAfeD2 by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:56:05.261757Z
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@crunklord420 @slovborg "being wrong 100% of the time" is incorrect and you know that :-/if you don't trust governments, health authorities or vaccine companies then do you trust anyone about medicine at all? here is a good source of evidence-based studies if someone didn't know about it: www.cochrane.org (in spite of the name it's not a goatse thing, it is real and trusted)I mean true, better to become a doctor and then a specialist so you know yourself.
(DIR) Post #A5k39VbPk13apjy3Wa by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:56:46.674966Z
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@wikifarms @slovborg please give me one (1) example of a western government having a correct initial policy regarding anything, thanks.
(DIR) Post #A5k3E16EZsUFg7X6nY by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T16:57:37.353993Z
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@crunklord420 @wikifarms Iceland seems to have taken the COVID approach about exactly right, too.
(DIR) Post #A5k3M0RGuyR3wiBOoS by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T16:59:02.586797Z
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@slovborg @wikifarms and what was that?
(DIR) Post #A5k3h0gXCKGmn5KyMi by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:02:50.915490Z
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@crunklord420 @slovborg define "initial" then - a "first" policy? give an example of "initial policy". Initial policies change as conditions change.Policies evolve in the same way as medicine evolves and conditions evolve and apply differently to different areas. A policy we have today will be surely be different in 100 years but we are implementing a policy now for the present conditions in the current area.What do you mean "Western" though? sounds like some Russian disinformation to me.
(DIR) Post #A5k3s1U4ZF80SDlAGW by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-30T17:04:49.826656Z
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@crunklord420 @tard Hydroxychloroquine is in practice a vaccine, it works, it's harmless, it's battle tested.Anyone slightly worried about these respiratory diseases (that have always been around! I almost died few years ago!) should consider stock-keeping HCQ at home and using it regularly.https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/hydroxychloroquine/
(DIR) Post #A5k3uSnRzVLlk2zGvw by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:05:13.904758Z
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@wikifarms @slovborg >initialthe criteria being if it happened after February, they were wrong. If they flip flopped on the position, they were wrong.>westernWestern governments operate in lock step, they all get their instructions from homoglobo. Different spheres of influence, different information. For example the WHO would give different advice to Asian countries about masks as compared to Western countries.
(DIR) Post #A5k3xdVAe6mXoOwxI8 by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:05:50.642066Z
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@slovborg @crunklord420 yes, what was that? how can you generalise the conditions of a very cold volcanic island not often travelled? then I am sure Saint Helena and the Svalbard must have had good policies too.
(DIR) Post #A5k4C3zYx8IA1Y2qmW by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T17:08:28.488869Z
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@crunklord420 @wikifarms And how are you going to have the correct "initial" (February 2020 or earlier) policy, if you were fed garbage data by China and WHO?Garbage in, garbage out.Taiwan here was the only one who got it right exactly because WHO is boycotting them, so they had to resort to independently collecting data (through Chinese social media).
(DIR) Post #A5k4JWSxU8JmMVLqk4 by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:09:47.819268Z
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@slovborg @wikifarms if it took you until March to reach obvious conclusions you're basically incompetent and a germ theory denier. There's not much more to say.
(DIR) Post #A5k4WYF4C3IzdP4AGe by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:12:10.031775Z
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@crunklord420 @slovborg well yes, leaving aside "Asian" and "Western", different regions have different climates, different standards and different ways of living so of course the advice will be different and WHO advice actually says it should be adapted to local conditions.if you mean EU countries and the US, then the EU contains such different countries as e.g. Bulgaria, Spain, Holland and Italy, all with different policies.Even within the US you have differences by state, so imho where is the "lockstep" ?
(DIR) Post #A5k4aJiY8YKjkJeV4S by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T17:12:51.496399Z
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@wikifarms @crunklord420 Well, you can't extrapolate from their game on easy settings fully, but still can't ignore that the one main policy they had to take (soft control on nationals returning from abroad and contact tracing) was something majority of North America and Europe failed to implement – instead opting for maximising bureaucratic bullshit that does nothing.
(DIR) Post #A5k4haOyVHeTWCxjfs by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T17:14:10.327969Z
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@crunklord420 @wikifarms I see what kind of people study public administration at my university, and therefore I assume a priori that anyone who works in the state apparatus is incompetent (until proven otherwise).
(DIR) Post #A5k4pJ2suxay0PJMFE by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T17:15:34.051972Z
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@wikifarms @crunklord420 A side note to "Asian" and "Western" here would be that interestingly, Australia and New Zealand seem to group with "Asian" rather than "Western" when it came to policies.
(DIR) Post #A5k4pRlqTgJT4APNR2 by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:15:33.925291Z
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@wikifarms @slovborg>WHOthis is a total cope response, it really is grasping at nothing.>lockstepmajor changes in interpretation of medical policy (masks, borders, risk levels) happened in lockstep. Very few outliers, for example Slovenia is an outlier.
(DIR) Post #A5k4v3JALG9CvzfO2y by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:16:34.030046Z
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@slovborg @wikifarms but it's not just the government, it was the medical authorities, the media. There's never been a greater example of The Cathedral.
(DIR) Post #A5k4zjqs6jQE2VfOqW by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:17:24.897748Z
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@slovborg @wikifarms social media and YouTube was banning you for even talking about COVID during the downplaying phase (which ended late March/April).
(DIR) Post #A5k52TRDadue0AyJSi by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T17:17:56.764707Z
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@crunklord420 @wikifarms Media tend to take in the same kind of incompetents as public administration.As for medical authorities, there seems to be a problem of selection: that competent people become medical professionals, and incompetent become bureaucrats...
(DIR) Post #A5k5DjlvCXDFqW1hdg by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:19:57.557668Z
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@slovborg @wikifarms we're not really in disagree there. The point being is that they've been 100% of the time. Excluding vaccine decisions every policy decision that has been made should have been made by the end of February. It was obvious. You mentioned Iceland I checked and honestly I don't see them behaving different at all. They finally started testing people arriving internationally in January... of 2021. lol, what?
(DIR) Post #A5k5EYwIxgp0XUHDP6 by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:20:07.085251Z
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@crunklord420 @slovborg idk, what would be the Bazaar then?"medical authorities" as opposed to "individual doctors" I imagine but yes, the two are often at odds, especially if the individual doctors are very good and have a brain and can make up their own mind
(DIR) Post #A5k5EoqrnfyjtFr69I by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T17:20:10.615557Z
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@crunklord420 @wikifarms I remember taking a medicine student (girl) out for drinks early March; when we discussed the topic she said they were told "It's just a flu bro" by a medical professional who researched the topic.So far, everything I told her about the true gravity turned out to be exactly right. Including when I explained to her in May the effects the virus has on the bloodstream.
(DIR) Post #A5k5Hcd3hUJyqojWme by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:20:40.356801Z
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@wikifarms @slovborg Moldbug's Cathedral, not ESR's Cathedral.
(DIR) Post #A5k5LoAgjC7Bo7SXey by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:21:25.466602Z
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@slovborg @crunklord420 yes, that is true and the bureaucrats, who haven't seen a patient in years, dictate policy :-/
(DIR) Post #A5k5OX4qjwrTex1lWS by slovborg@poa.st
2021-03-30T17:21:56.037152Z
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@crunklord420 @wikifarms Testing people at the point when they arrive in the country is kinda useless, tbh. Virus is in incubation stage for about a week so unless the person arriving in is about to develop symptoms in a day or two, you won't detect them when screening at entrance.
(DIR) Post #A5k5PeRapt3KnTCP3I by negi@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-03-30T17:22:08.116174Z
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@slovborg @crunklord420 @wikifarms same shit in academia (at least in pure math idk). the people who take on administrative duties are the people who cant cut it in research
(DIR) Post #A5k5RCnCc9NbcI313w by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:22:23.497096Z
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@slovborg @wikifarms the correct decision is to not accept international flights, simple as.
(DIR) Post #A5k5hlF0ItFX5cwhqC by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:25:24.052111Z
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@crunklord420 @slovborg except that is really just a flu except that the flu is dangerous for old and very young people and this flu just for old people.It's not Ebola. It's not the plague. Remember when Zika was meant to be the end of the world? and the bird flu?now there is a cold going around but making people hygienic saves a lot of money in public health overall
(DIR) Post #A5k5sc3an30Rn7mazQ by crunklord420@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:27:19.674414Z
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@wikifarms @slovborg hard border closures should have happened in Feburary. COVID should have be contained. It should have never became a pandemic. The risk was entirety unknown and therefore the greatest, not only because of the closing window for possible containment. It was an obvious call, instead of doing it they went out of there way to encourage the spread.Now that we know, they're trying to force people to take vaccines with a significantly higher risk than a "just a flu". It's totally the opposite of what should have happened.
(DIR) Post #A5k6uDKxlilLepEdzU by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2021-03-30T17:38:49.122052Z
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@crunklord420 @slovborg there is a lot of money in vaccines. Just a flu or not, they also sell cigarettes, which, if they really wanted to do something for public health would have been forbidden years ago as poison. Yet they put on the cigarettes nasty pictures instead of doing something that marketing studies prove would be effective. Because money and taxes.The risk of bad adverse reactions from the vaccine compared the risk of bad consequences from the flu depends on the age group and comorbidities so you can't really generalise.