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(DIR) Post #A5WCWXQEqFY2mj4ZDU by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T00:35:55Z
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Since everyone wants to talk about taking away gun rights again...QT: https://qoto.org/@freemo/103766692274567523
(DIR) Post #A5WD5WYO3xqeE6ZCYC by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T00:42:15Z
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@freemo No. They want to take away automatic weapons from people with mental issues.People like you and me will be happy owners of the needed rocket launchers for personal defense against bears.
(DIR) Post #A5WD9ZBiD7qlYSt8YS by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T00:42:55Z
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@pthenq1 No, what the hell are you talking about... automatic weapons have been illegal since the 70s.
(DIR) Post #A5WDLduwS6ThhLnou0 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T00:45:11Z
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@freemo They said nothing about "taking away gun rights again". But if you are going to twist what they said, why could I not twist what you said? 👀
(DIR) Post #A5WDS6bIio2COYhISe by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T00:46:18Z
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@pthenq1 yes they did, they are talking about banning certain types of guns, therefore taking away our right to access to those guns.
(DIR) Post #A5WDj7eI4sHwZLD55k by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T00:49:25Z
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@freemo okay. I support the right of get weapons.Still, nobody can get always the guns they want. Today, for example, I would like portable small atomic bombs. You know, the ones handy to blow up 1 or 2 blocks. They do not let us put our hands on that... and other weapons.
(DIR) Post #A5WESKbMlYRVlyOpBg by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T00:57:33Z
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@pthenq1 Its even illegal for nations to have nuclear weapons, even the ones that have it arent allowed to as they were required to disarm ages ago and didnt... so no, bad example buddy.
(DIR) Post #A5WKuTGElRcCSiJl6e by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:09:55Z
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@freemo same story. When/If they declare some weapon illegal and you have it, you will have to surrender it.Other than that, perhaps someone wants a semiautomatic to defend himself from bears.I want a nuclear mini-nuke to combat field mices. We are all tuned against dangerous environments... :awesome:
(DIR) Post #A5WL9IXitaejZ4ZCS0 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:12:32Z
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@pthenq1 Nope, not how it works in america. Automatic weapons were made illegal in the 70's but since they were legally bought they can only block you from buying new ones, cant take back what you already have.. thats why everyone who owned automatic weapons before the ban in the 70's now still legally has them. You can even buy automatic weapons but only ones that were in circulation before the ban. So they cost HUGE amounts of money and illegal to buy new but legal to sell the old ones.In short, if they become illegal my 5,000$ AR-15 will be worth 50,000$ .. and I cant buy anymore but can sell or keep what I have.. So if anything **more** of an incentive to buy them.
(DIR) Post #A5WLE82DONhuQE8GzQ by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:13:20Z
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@pthenq1 Also an AR-15 and pretty much any other semi-automatic would be useless against bears. You'd use a slugged shotgun for that or some other single-shot style weapon most likely.
(DIR) Post #A5WLIShcUY4HgFZ7jc by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:14:15Z
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@freemo I was thinking in get one. They are fun.
(DIR) Post #A5WLLtvpi6zx00qyxc by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:14:49Z
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@freemo or you just leave them alone ;)
(DIR) Post #A5WLMtYaadFE7sSIL2 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:14:54Z
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@pthenq1 you should, its a wonderful sport, lots of fun, and no reason not to really.
(DIR) Post #A5WLO4S3ZMOWCkxbn6 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:15:11Z
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@pthenq1 kill them with lonliness, I like your style :)
(DIR) Post #A5WLc9Mw5E1HVgHLVo by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:17:49.024798Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo the constitution bans ex post facto laws. since guns are property (and not under some 'license' shitbaggery like the losers in canada) it can't be "bought back" without basically violating the constitution.
(DIR) Post #A5WLjIcA6gQEDBoGFU by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:19:08.025379Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo our combination of having an absolute right to keep and bear arms has been quite a thorn which is why they spend so much effort on scare tactics and "extreme risk warrants" to find ways to seize them without having to admit to seizing them.
(DIR) Post #A5WLjj2dqr3IAqOm8G by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:19:08Z
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@icedquinn Yup, they can only prevent people buying new ones, or the making of new ones... freedom baby!@pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5WLmcQwsNr0Y49DN2 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:19:44.584780Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 They can't even do either of those things. You have a right to keep and bear arms :blobcatshrug2: SCOTUS had just refused to hear cases because they are useless idiots.
(DIR) Post #A5WLsamhv76fAhAoee by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:20:43Z
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@icedquinn If they actually played by the rules they would just make a new amendment, legal, no problem.. oh wait.. they cant get the votes! So instead they try to erode it in other ways.@pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5WLtSI4zCh17LG7Pc by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:20:58Z
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@icedquinn Well true, that too.@pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5WM0SqTK24wrggiH2 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:22:13.904664Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 > as is necessary for a well regulated militiathey really desperately want to interpret this as a loophole to inject all their gun grabs> the right to keep and bear arms:blobcat: > shall not be infringedthey have a hard time understanding how not infringing works.and this is an enumerated right, meaning the tenth amendment cannot even give states the privilege to gun control you.they only do it because SCOTUS is literally worthless and won't hear cases. which basically is itself a violation of your right to due process. which they can also just refuse to hear cases on.remind me why we haven't spaced them
(DIR) Post #A5WM4Oqa859BcgcFJw by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:22:49Z
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@freemo No. They cannot. It is just about banning weapons on mentally impaired people.. @icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WM6DfqdqhhY7SlmK by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:21:17Z
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@icedquinn @freemo aaaaaanyway, the idea that they are having that could pass the Congress is not banning some weapons (and of course they are proposals like that) but doing more background checks.On that point, I am on favor. There are people that cannot operate planes, or dangerous machines. Something similar should happen with weapons.
(DIR) Post #A5WM6EAKoV5f4fj7IW by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:23:10Z
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@pthenq1 not sure how you can do "more" background checks.. they already do background checks on all the shit a background check can cover (criminal past, parking tickets, outstanding debt)... what are they proposing to check my background twice? lol@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WM9LLKaJZ0CfM7jU by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:23:50.450169Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo The amount of mentally impaired people doing shootings is very small. And some number of those appear to be instigated by government terrorists (FBI.)
(DIR) Post #A5WMJiGyBh8ODLGDho by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:25:42.848556Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo the problem with any attempts at "reasonable" anything is- it's an enumerated, inalienable right, to which any argument is literally attempting to alienate it- reasonable things are just gateways to more
(DIR) Post #A5WMNevUZUWqzg61k8 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:26:23Z
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@freemo They should check more on mental stability for example. Or if the person is a psychopath (they cannot feel remorse) or psychotic (they cannot perceive reality correctly). Those people should not be able to carry weapons. So we all could have guns. Because we know when to shoot or not (they don't)@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WMUcuiS6awmN3VVg by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:27:36Z
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@pthenq1 There are two things you can mean by that.. banning it for people who were commited against their will by commiting a crime, those people are already banned from having guns..Or your suggesting the right to bare arms should be revoked for anyone who voluntarily chooses to go to a psychiatrist and has been treated?The second one is the only one where they can currently get tguns.. but it makes no sense. There is no public registry where people who seek psychiatric treatment on their own get registered and publicly can be "pinged" in a check... so your suggesting something quite obscene, that if I decide to call a psychiatrist and seek help then I will get on a public registry where gun shops can look me up, and my rights become revoked... For one having a public registry where people are punished for seeking mental health is beyond a horrible idea, doubly so if the consequence is to loose your fundemental rights.Do you really think anyone who is struggling with a mental disorder who feels they need to see a psychiatrist is going to do it if the law states that should they go to get treated they forfit a basic right for the rest of their life?God what a horrible idea.@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WMUybJou9Q2a9KKW by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:27:02Z
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@icedquinn They can be triggered for anything. That is why they should not be able to access to them. @freemo
(DIR) Post #A5WMUz0qI0ZFJk5i76 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:27:44.223421Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo and yet instead of finding these people and getting them to a mental hospital, our government is exploiting them to push agendas.:blobcatthonking:
(DIR) Post #A5WMZS4ICeuqaepsRs by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:28:34.166727Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 > having rights revoked for seeking mental helpthis is why the baker act exists in florida
(DIR) Post #A5WMgKrdO1VSH3CIV6 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:28:50Z
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@icedquinn should be enumerated. Almost all the massive shootings were done by those 2 types of personalities (psychopaths and psychotics). Those mind conditions can be easily diagnosed.@freemo
(DIR) Post #A5WMgLLlZzbpmVIMT2 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:29:47.670733Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo from a constituional angle you would need a formal amendment to add clauses that your inalienable rights can be voided by a psychologist.which would also be doing something the country was very directly designed against.
(DIR) Post #A5WMhfqQrmrVdMH0eO by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:30:03.298326Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 the baker act allows someone to self commit for i think 24-48 hours and it can't be put in any databases / paperwork that can be used against you legally.
(DIR) Post #A5WMjnmQKm5Up9PfjE by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:30:26.282183Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo similarly your inalienable rights can't be voided by a pandemic either, so.......
(DIR) Post #A5WMnh4rCF1xC6tIQ4 by galena@paws.moe
2021-03-24T02:31:08.052325Z
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@icedquinn @freemo @pthenq1 Technically if we refuse to take a crime to trial, it isn't illegal, because of innocent until proven guilty, so actually the government did nothing wrong!
(DIR) Post #A5WMrAYk2VgVV3WhLk by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:31:40Z
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@pthenq1 you just ignored all the concerns raised and reiterated your point... so your basically telling people that if they are found to have a condition they loose rights and thus are punished for seeking medical treatment if they feel they have a mental disorder... worst suggestion ive ever heard.@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WMtFEJe4zmZ3xhvE by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:32:07.927824Z
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@galena in my non-lawyer legal opinion, refusing to hear cases about how someones rights are violated is itself a violation of the constitution.i tend to have very harsh opinions judges who commit acts of bullshit. @freemo @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5WNCOvxn4CiAAVpFg by galena@paws.moe
2021-03-24T02:35:36.033901Z
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@icedquinn @freemo @pthenq1 We can't know for sure until the court hears your case on whether or not refusing to hear cases is a violation of your constitutional rights. Sorry bud, but the court refuses to hear your case, I guess we'll never know!
(DIR) Post #A5WNG7cS6kqxcYA0PY by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:36:16.024463Z
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@galena it would be a shame if we passed a law that fired all the judges. @freemo @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5WNNJb7yCnanayFGa by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T02:37:34.836903Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo What animals have to do with anything? Second amendment and guns are to defend from foreign and domestic enemies, including the government.
(DIR) Post #A5WNRgf4A7yNUHtiWu by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:38:17Z
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@mystik When he said bears I think he mean big hairy gay men.@pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5WNSxmZzXvIsT1Ki0 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:38:20Z
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@freemo @icedquinn No. Those conditions can be managed. But they cannot be fixed.A psychopath have not moral boundaries. That is because they are incapable to feel remorse. There is not fix for that. They live in society by imitating neurotics (us), so they are no necessarily criminals.. But they do not feel remorse or moral boundaries. No treatment possible.Example: Charles Manson.Psychotic is a condition where the brain cannot process information correctly. It cannot be cured. Just treated. But if the pills stop being effective... of they forget to eat it or they run out of those pills...Example are the people hearing voices or having hallucinations.The first group will only have weapons to carry their will and attack people as part of some plan. The second group cannot process information and could use weapons following instructions given by god, the voices, etc.Those 2 groups of people cannot be fixed and they should not have access to weapons.
(DIR) Post #A5WNgb3THyWGRYQFqy by smithy@shitposter.club
2021-03-24T02:41:04.476628Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @icedquinn The methods of detecting mental illness are hardly objective & can easily be co-opted for ulterior political, moral, or social ends.
(DIR) Post #A5WNgihmqTvYAcL3AG by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:41:02Z
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@freemo you are a neurotic (like me). Neurotics go to the psychiatrist treatment or psychology treatment but that never destroy your moral boundaries or perception of reality. Neurotic are normal people and should be able to access to weapons. With or without treatment. @icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WNjib9hR8mhufNeS by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T02:41:37.936480Z
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@pthenq1 @icedquinn @freemo Almost all the massive shootings were false flags perpetrated by the federal government.
(DIR) Post #A5WNovsLlJodKmCAnQ by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:42:29Z
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@pthenq1 You still havent addressed the fundamental concern.. you are proposing a situation where if a person goes to a therapist to get treatment they automatically forfeit part of their rights, for life.. so you are effectively discouraging people from going to psychiatrists. Sounds like a pretty shitty solution that will cause way more harm than good.@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WNtKaNpeej86tBC4 by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T02:43:21.223142Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo @icedquinn Those "instabilities" will be checked with the accuracy of a "covid" test.Fuck off.
(DIR) Post #A5WNvh1jMrHXJCo55c by mar77i@gleasonator.com
2021-03-24T02:43:47.919622Z
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@smithy @pthenq1 @freemo @icedquinn ...said the tranny.
(DIR) Post #A5WNxAOvdmuOhVMONk by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T02:44:03.419607Z
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@pthenq1 @icedquinn @freemo Too bad it's unconstitutional, and for good reasons.
(DIR) Post #A5WO1oJvAE1lfNESYq by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:43:29Z
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@icedquinn no. Only for psychotics and psychopathsNormal people (neurotics) looking for mental help are OK with weapons. We have the brain correctly wired (and perhaps we are fuck up because family or life history). The other 2 groups have broken brains basically. @freemo
(DIR) Post #A5WO1okrY3Zv0vpyYS by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:44:48Z
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@pthenq1 So a psychotic o psychopath who wants to get help.. only they will be forced not to get help?And schizophrenics who hallucinate people that arent there, them your cool having guns?@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WO6PeKJigybByHR2 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:45:39Z
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@freemo No Freemo. You do not get psychopathy or Psychotic: you are born like that. Or your are not (and you are called neurotic) and you can go to the mental institution and all good. those conditions describe how is mechanically your brain wired. It does not change with medical treatment. @icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WODrZKuZDFDVBonY by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:46:59Z
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@freemo For my nukes? I just want nukes to combat field mice... Nobody understands me. :pensive_party_blob: @mystik
(DIR) Post #A5WOJaRpTp8tr1PKsq by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:48:06.663024Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo high functioning psychopaths exist. indeed, most psychopaths also don't commit violent crimes.
(DIR) Post #A5WORdc1bAnLz911YO by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:49:34.096772Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo the reason there are no exceptions is because exceptions are exploited.under this regime, everyone will just start being classified as "mild autism."
(DIR) Post #A5WOVJIl3UrC9PkrB2 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:48:15Z
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@smithy They are very understood. Anything different of a neurotic (with or without issues) should not have weapons. @icedquinn @freemo
(DIR) Post #A5WOVJidVHYbRfrWVs by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:50:08Z
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@pthenq1 So you are back to the idea that you penalize people who think they have a mental condition and seek psychiatric help by perminantly taking away their right to guns for life.. and you think this is a good idea.All your doing is creating a situation where people with mental disorders need to hide it at all costs and never seek help or a psychiatrist for it because they dont want to loose their right to self protection...It is a horrific idea and im not sure why you dont get that.@smithy @icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WObOPAzezviUeo1Q by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:49:12Z
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@mystik like the last one in Boulder? Or the one in Boston? @icedquinn @freemo
(DIR) Post #A5WObOlrdJ96qrGvNw by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:51:18.509130Z
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@pthenq1 @mystik @freemo i wouldn't say false flags. those are military operations that use the wrong banners.what they do is groom vulnerable people so they can arrest them later and get more agency funding + push bills.i don't know anything about those two specific shootings.
(DIR) Post #A5WOdKHtH0TJWeAgKG by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:51:36Z
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@freemo NO. A person going to the therapist is a neurotic. Please check the definitions of neurotic, psychopath and psychotic. Normal people going to therapy are neurotic.Psychopath and psychotic are born in that way. And stay in the same way until that person die.Nobody can transit from one condition to the other. @icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WOfsK9hIAFfQRinA by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:52:08.420722Z
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@freemo or they just go "you are a trump supporter and i am a leftist psychologist, so i will call you a psychopath. now you are a pseudocriminal. i sure do love my degree."@pthenq1 @smithy
(DIR) Post #A5WOiA46hthXGm1uUa by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T02:52:33.286988Z
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@icedquinn @pthenq1 @freemo Sandy Hoax was pretty lame.
(DIR) Post #A5WOj2PwcvFrq8f71k by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-03-24T02:52:42.728365Z
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@pthenq1 @freemo psychopaths do go to therapists.
(DIR) Post #A5WOtZFDQpfqXxfGSm by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:54:34Z
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@freemo schizophrenics have are a type of psychotic. All of them share the same problem: They do not have a real perception of reality. Except (perhaps) with pills.Neurotics have a good check of reality. And that never changes. Even when someone get LCD and "see things" they know it is because the LCD. And they will be OK after the effect is gone.Normal people (neurotics)'s rights will be OK. With or without treatment.@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WOv4qJR3bgpwjhhI by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:54:47Z
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@pthenq1 My friend has schizofrenia, therefore is not neurotic. He goes tot he therapist for treatment... so your statement makes no sense that only neurotics go to therapists.My friend with schizophrenia would literally have been forced not to go to a psychiatrist when he suspect he was developing the disease for fear he would loose his right to self protection. He would have been forced to try to hide his disorder at all costs rather than seek treatment as he did.Moreover, they can and often are treated. Medication can eliminate their hallucinations, so your argument they cant be treated is also false.@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WOvYOLZb3wTtsnGy by bushgrad@pleromazela.world
2021-03-24T02:54:58.495608Z
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@icedquinn @galena @freemo @pthenq1 In some legal systems, a notice has to be issued in reasonable time. This notice grants opens up the option for another authority to assume the role of prosecutor. This is a modern safeguard against the situation where the state refuses to investigate, gather evidence and then says 'we aren't prosecuting on the grounds of insufficient evidence'. I'm not a lawyer either btw but this is the situation in South Africa at least.
(DIR) Post #A5WOza1zQ5iyixLT8K by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:55:37Z
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@icedquinn Psychopaths are also neurotic.. he is using the terminology wrong. Psychopaths do not expiernce delusion or hallucination and therefore would be a neurotic.@pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5WP1GrJfkZlqG9vZg by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:55:50Z
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@freemo I did not say that. If someone looks for help or not is different if that person is neurotic or not.@smithy @icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WP7WbS36QcPPijiK by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T02:57:03Z
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@pthenq1 I know what they are but you havent addressed the problem.. You are suggesting a system where my friend who was schizofrenic should have continued to hide his condition and avoid a psychiatrist to retain his rights, something he did successfully for years, making him far more of a risk than a medicated person with their rights in tacts and condition treated.@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WPTqSQuXYyME94nw by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T03:01:04Z
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@freemo I did not say that. I say that schizofrenia cannot be fixed, just treated. The treatment goes OK... until it is not treated anymore.Ask to the homeless with imaginary friends on the streets if that (stopping receiving treatment) could happen... @icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WPWrcr1a0kqhSXVg by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T03:01:40Z
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@freemo @icedquinn We are all neurotic. That is the "normal thing".
(DIR) Post #A5WPYadFB4tsitSrTM by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T02:58:59Z
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@icedquinn @freemo everybody go to therapists. And almost everybody are not criminals.I am just saying that a big percentage of all the massive crimes are made by no-neurotics. So banning them from accessing to weapons solve a big problem. In fact it is a good thing because the Left will have lest opportunity of banning weapons... but that is another thing anyway...
(DIR) Post #A5WPYb0HnPKdsMFGO8 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:01:57Z
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@pthenq1 Lets make this clear.. .if someone is schizofrenic or a psychopath, and goes to a psychiatrist asking for help with their condition, and the psychiatrist evaluates them and identifies them as a psychopath and agrees to help treat them... should this cause the psychopath to loose their right to guns or not?If not, how do you even propose psychopaths be identified by this "background check" of yours?@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WPeYsGcqlV0dL5G4 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:02:58Z
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@pthenq1 No you are using the terms absolutely wrong, a neurotic person is one with a mental disorder, but where the mental disorder does not include delusion or hallucination... Normal people who have no mental disorders are not neurotic.@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WPlmSCXG6n9WaapM by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:04:19Z
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@pthenq1 Definition of neurotic: "A person afflicted by neurosis"Definition of neurosis: "Neurosis is a class of functional mental disorders involving chronic distress, but neither delusions nor hallucinations."@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WQ4t9jqCRjRQ454K by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T03:07:46Z
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@freemo That is the proposal. I think it make sense. Still a psychopath could have a case about accessing to weapons. He cannot feel remorse, but he could calculate that it will be bad for him to use his weapons against random people.With a psychotic the story is completely different. They do not perceive reality correctly without treatment.James Holmes was one of them. 95%+ of the mass murders are psychotic @icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WQBMkoi1NAyXUr2G by smithy@shitposter.club
2021-03-24T03:09:02.761237Z
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@icedquinn @freemo @pthenq1 Exactly - the nature of these illnesses might be conceptually determined, but what counts as an empirical expression/symptom is much more open-ended & flexible
(DIR) Post #A5WQBXGjcCqVaQVUAq by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-24T03:09:03.280052Z
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@mystik @icedquinn @freemo @pthenq1 WTF ever did happen at Sandy Hook? I remember Alex Jones going batshit about people circling around the building in a loop or something? I don’t remember much about the outcome of the investigations. (I should have looked at wikipedia maybe before asking)
(DIR) Post #A5WQFTuC3xOEJSqRYO by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T03:09:45Z
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@freemo No sir. We are ALL neurotics with or without issues. Our problems could be treated with more or less long therapy treatments.The other group are Psychotics. They are nor fixable. They can have medication for their condition... or not. But if they forget to get their pill, they lose it.@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WQFqywGTqrsqF3dw by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:09:48Z
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@pthenq1 i think its fine to discourage a psycotic not to buy weapons, but the second you make it illegal if they seek treatment you create a situation where psychotics are forced to hide their condition and not seek treatment... worst idea ever
(DIR) Post #A5WQKuND5CFHql0MQi by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:10:25Z
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@pthenq1 Are you literally arging that the dictionary definition is wrong and you are right?@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #A5WQOvPz8lPuFTDapE by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T03:11:28.658749Z
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@Coyote @freemo @icedquinn @pthenq1 Shitty Hollywood production.They had to rollout an internet-wide massive operation to remove all evidence.Low resolution pics is all is left, you won't find anything nowadays.
(DIR) Post #A5WQVMFUIV6BCSNLMG by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T03:12:38.523711Z
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@Coyote @freemo @icedquinn @pthenq1 Even Obama appeared in some pics with "dead" children. Pretty pathetic.
(DIR) Post #A5WQgHlTJFwcThXwhc by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T03:14:34Z
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@freemo that is all I am saying. And the reasonable thing to do. 95% of mass murders are done by this kind of people. (psycotics).
(DIR) Post #A5WQzhKqSm2dHmLgMC by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:18:04Z
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@pthenq1 Even if 95% of murders are carried out by them, 99.99% of them will never murder anyone.. nothing reasonable about it.. you create a situation where 99.9% of people who would never kill anyone now can no longer seek help without loosing fundemental rights so go untreated and have to hide their condition.. all in the hopes of stopping the 0.01% of them.So you have now made the entire group dangerous and untreated in a naive and unethical attempt to stop 0.01% of them from crimes.I bet if you run the statistics youll find 98% of mass shootings are done by men (I cant think of a single woman who did it).. so by that logic only women should be allowed guns... This type of thinking is dangerous, reckless, and stupid. Not to mention causes WAY more harm than it fixes.
(DIR) Post #A5WRGOIqTgQ9BINCQy by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-24T03:21:08.597821Z
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@mystik @freemo @icedquinn @pthenq1 OMG…https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting#Please_change_casualties_to_victims
(DIR) Post #A5WRJDRlIUXENctI80 by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-24T03:21:39.307380Z
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@mystik @freemo @icedquinn @pthenq1 PC police in overdrive trying to change definitions:https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/casualty
(DIR) Post #A5WRVzfHqhwjOvJHAO by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T03:23:55Z
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@freemo they cannot hide it. A normal person could "suffer" his/her condition. A psychotic cannot.Talking about statistics, yes, 95% of the mass shutting are executed by psychotic males. Who knows why...Ideally, you want to remove the weapons only from their hands. If you find a way to do it and remove the weapons ONLY from them, you will be rich!
(DIR) Post #A5WRbAdGV43srbph56 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:24:49Z
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@pthenq1 my friend with the condition hid it for many years before being diagnosed, so thats BS
(DIR) Post #A5WRqi4sQvLWw79qJk by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T03:27:40Z
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@freemo indeed that is how it works. It is called psychotic break or psychotic attack.It is like the genius out of the lamp.You or me will never have something like that, because we are not psychotic, so we do not have a genius waiting to come out...
(DIR) Post #A5WRsaiEmtkwfmSum0 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:27:58Z
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@Coyote There ya go, I used my wikipedia clout on the talk page. Enjoy.@icedquinn @pthenq1 @mystik
(DIR) Post #A5WRygZRv5KMZzGEYS by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:29:02Z
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@pthenq1 No there was no break. He went to the psychiatrist on his own as he wasnt happy hiding it. No one knew until he came out and sought help on his own.
(DIR) Post #A5WS0K7eLxhHXJ2TNw by Starcake@pl.neko.bar
2021-03-24T03:29:27.483472Z
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@freemo @pthenq1 @icedquinn chronic distress? Isn't that most people int he world?
(DIR) Post #A5WS1bLtmL2FGNJT3w by Coyote@tucson.claims
2021-03-24T03:29:40.345849Z
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@freemo @icedquinn @pthenq1 @mystik There’s a lot still relatively active about it … https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/j880rz/sandy_hook_hoax_robbie_the_actor_parker/ and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4245810/
(DIR) Post #A5WS3OTWcs5duAjcrQ by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:29:53Z
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@Starcake Just the ones paying attention :)@icedquinn @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5WS4ST7GQyka13EO0 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T03:30:00Z
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@freemo that is how it is called. I am not talking about a break like a crack or something...
(DIR) Post #A5WS6QeKzwRfW9Euoa by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T03:30:33.374772Z
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@Coyote @freemo @icedquinn @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5WS7UtAipWkxGgh6H by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:30:38Z
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@Coyote Not into the conspiracy theory nonsense. Just dont like words being misused.@icedquinn @pthenq1 @mystik
(DIR) Post #A5WSAVLdTIoVFPR3I0 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:31:09Z
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@pthenq1 You said they dont seek help on their own and cant hide it.. you were wrong on both counts.
(DIR) Post #A5WSDYCHKqd4x7VkRc by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T03:31:49.912673Z
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@freemo @Coyote @icedquinn @pthenq1 It's not a theory, we proved that it was fake thousands of times. Hence the censorship.
(DIR) Post #A5WSRYaOgZfkDHTGXw by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:34:17Z
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@mystik Whatever crazy tifoil hat shit you want to tell yourself. I know someone who was there when it happened. So yea im not going to listen to this tinfoil hat shit, sorry.@icedquinn @pthenq1 @Coyote
(DIR) Post #A5WSebIduLAEOUO0gq by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T03:36:43.428792Z
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@freemo @icedquinn @pthenq1 @Coyote HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAYou fucking idiot, they fooled you and your friend. How does it feel to be a gullible fool?
(DIR) Post #A5WSwMrSKQCqpI8rJI by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:39:50Z
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@mystik How did the fool my friend, you think they got one of her friends, a little kid, pretend to get shot in front of her and then proceed to play dead for some time with somehow faking a hole for a bullet wound. Someone she knew well and was friends with before getting shot?Ok psycho... like i said believe whatever dumbass shit you want just dont involve me.@icedquinn @pthenq1 @Coyote
(DIR) Post #A5WSxseFd9UrhYgdmK by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T03:40:10Z
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@freemo No. I did not talk about help. You said: they could stop looking for help so they do not risk loosing their weapons. So they will hide it.And I said: They cannot hide it. Because if it is not treated it will be worst and worst. So hiding it is not an option.Help or not help. Offering it or they looking for it. They cannot hide it after the first psychotic attack. It is a matter of rime
(DIR) Post #A5WT1vsnXvGytMQIng by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:40:52Z
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@pthenq1 and i said he hid it for 20+ years with no one ever realizing it, so clearly that is false
(DIR) Post #A5WT38NWZbovw5Msy0 by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T03:41:09.880870Z
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@freemo @icedquinn @pthenq1 @Coyote YES, they did it for money, BIG MONEY. They were all found alive later, it was all a fucking act. WAKE THE FUCK UP.
(DIR) Post #A5WT6lr4G08xErv9km by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:41:41Z
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@mystik ok well you go be woke with your friends, leave me alone@icedquinn @pthenq1 @Coyote
(DIR) Post #A5WTJPUUiXvTdtOCPo by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T03:41:33Z
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@freemo It is a matter of time*
(DIR) Post #A5WTJPsFIEvOpYVAR6 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:44:00Z
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@pthenq1 and yet for him it never was.. decadesof hiding and he was never exposed. Only reason i found out is because he actively sought help on his own. If he knew seeking help would mean he would be considered a subhuman with limmited rights for the rest of his life he would have went on going untreated for another 20+ years...So your proposing people hide it to keep their rights and go for many decades and **maybe** get caught eventually.. still a dumbass suggestion as Id rather see someone get treated than be forced to hide it for decades on end.
(DIR) Post #A5WTjdkKL4jPNrInq4 by freemo@qoto.org
2021-03-24T03:48:46Z
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@pthenq1 long story short you are proposing a law that forces a situation where 100% of people with a mental disorder is forced to hide it for as long as they can (on the order of decades potentially) and go without treatment. Causing 100% of people to go untreated in the hopes of catching the 0.01% of them that might killWorse idea ever.. if anything all youll do is make way more of them murderers because they are now all untreated and you just turned that 0.01% into a much larger number.
(DIR) Post #A5WU0hS9oGqHnswEPA by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T03:51:55.081913Z
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@Coyote @freemo @icedquinn @pthenq1 https://www.bitchute.com/video/LIMQIxC7hiiq/
(DIR) Post #A5WUC738yzW0NKgFiC by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T03:53:59.703740Z
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@Coyote @freemo @icedquinn @pthenq1
(DIR) Post #A5Wb6oq3xkQG7sz7YG by mystik@midnightride.rs
2021-03-24T05:11:27.832103Z
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@Coyote @freemo @icedquinn @pthenq1 https://gitmo.tv/videos/watch/777f8ff5-dc87-4b54-afd6-43fe91db2061
(DIR) Post #A5WjJqCb0JFhkjFEf2 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T06:43:24Z
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@freemo I did not talk about mental disorder. Mental disorder is to wide. I talked about psychotic And the attention they deserved did not take it away. Reagan did. He is not my pal.Too much John McCain reasoning...
(DIR) Post #A5WjQqpx2gblkSznG4 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2021-03-24T06:44:42Z
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@freemo nobody except you talked about subhuman.
(DIR) Post #A5YLumvW8TcHj0GFhw by mathlover@qoto.org
2021-03-25T01:30:39Z
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@freemo I will be reading this post and the accompanying graphs later tonight