Post A5KOOlJL9687Iz623U by agarwaen@mastodon.tetaneutral.net
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(DIR) Post #A5KI6e3mlZCBsanaJU by Gina@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T06:41:38Z
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#woodworking heroes of the #fediverse, I need your help. How do I make a table with this soft edge going up?As always I apparently have very expensive taste: https://www.furnea.nl/sits-love-ronde-salontafel-naturel-eiken.html
(DIR) Post #A5KIAX5YcyoLPsTu2C by Gina@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T06:42:21Z
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FFS who charges €500 for a coffee table.
(DIR) Post #A5KJEQIvtRkHUJ9lWS by lasombra@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T06:54:17Z
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@Gina Say what?!?
(DIR) Post #A5KJQmFY7uBP1dSsb2 by themactep@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T06:56:29Z
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@Gina you'll need rails, a router, a ballnose bit to form edges, a flat bit to remove wood in center.
(DIR) Post #A5KJTYpeTBGEHPg8kS by Gina@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T06:57:02Z
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@themactep Ah so start with one flat top and then sort of carve out the shape from the middle?
(DIR) Post #A5KJapW4puZy3IzNLs by tbr@society.oftrolls.com
2021-03-18T06:58:15Z
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@Gina Hmm, might have been turned, but that would need a yuuuge laathe.I suspect that with some jigs, a router and elbow grease you could get to a similar-ish result.Then again I'm a newbie with not much hands on knowledge and some youtube video mileage, so take this bucket of salt: 🗑️
(DIR) Post #A5KJfAyP0C4Vl3JILg by themactep@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T06:58:32Z
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@Gina first carve a rounded grove near the edge (use a spacer to make it nice), them remove what's inside.
(DIR) Post #A5KJgJLtKqSC2Aq2gC by themactep@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T06:58:56Z
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@Gina or use a cnc, that's even better.
(DIR) Post #A5KJhidympcGlSyDS4 by rmsilva@mamot.fr
2021-03-18T06:59:21Z
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@Gina I only "like" woodworking, but if the wood grain goes all the way to the edge (if it's a single board) I'm pretty sure that needs to be turned from a board with the total thickness. I think one would need a lathe with lots of working space.Otherwise you could "fake it" by gluing a thicker piece around the edge and sanding/sculpting down, but that would be a lot of work, and probably less perfectly symmetric.
(DIR) Post #A5KJqxPxE9rdBtobdw by ij@nerdculture.de
2021-03-18T07:01:15Z
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@Gina Oh, so you have the same taste as my wife... ;-)
(DIR) Post #A5KJvsETvsueYdnFbc by ajmartinez@social.librem.one
2021-03-18T07:01:48Z
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@Gina can be done by hand as well. A round over bit in a router will do the trick.
(DIR) Post #A5KK3bMWXWxWYIEw8u by elohim@mastodon.online
2021-03-18T07:03:30Z
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@GinaDepends on who, how, and what. If it's made of nice wood? Wood is freaking expensive. If its done right and required expertise and expensive tools? Handmade is on another lever. In these cases I'd suppose it's a expectable price. If it's mass production, it's a rip-off
(DIR) Post #A5KKE2uwwdvsuQK480 by kaiyou@mastodon.tedomum.net
2021-03-18T07:05:28Z
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@Gina This would probably require machine milling, and tools alone would cost you more than 500€, except if you know a great hackerspace near your place that owns a large enough wood mill to fit a plank that large. Making a proper circle would be easier if the mill is computer controlled, but you could reach a decent result with manual work and patience.
(DIR) Post #A5KKI5a2zDLuKHTPtY by elohim@mastodon.online
2021-03-18T07:06:08Z
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@GinaHow about a diy project? 😉 Do you have access to tools?
(DIR) Post #A5KKKcekyvPFULstX6 by sammorrowdrums@writing.exchange
2021-03-18T07:06:33Z
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@GinaNetherlands furniture has almost no middle ground in my experience. It's like €50 and then jumps fast to €300+, then it is rapidly up over €1000 even for light fittings 🤣😅 and that's even true on markplaats... have to shop apround so hard for deals.
(DIR) Post #A5KKMBGJnsUf6eCFPM by kaiyou@mastodon.tedomum.net
2021-03-18T07:06:57Z
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@Gina Most of all, provided access to the proper tools and someone to guide you and avoid injury, this sounds like an easy enough job for a beginner and a rather exciting experience if you have never milled anything before.
(DIR) Post #A5KKOKFXMLtXYjr09g by Gina@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T07:07:13Z
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@elohim My dad owns a lot of the bigger tools, definitely a router and maybe even a CNC. I'd have to know what's required though. I can kind of guess that I'd have to carve out the middle, but how to make that smooth edge that goes up?
(DIR) Post #A5KKQo4BTKJkc7j6q8 by themactep@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T07:07:45Z
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@Gina first carve a rounded grove near the edge (use a spacer to make it nice), then remove what's inside.
(DIR) Post #A5KKWw1UnnxN1pOKPI by kaiyou@mastodon.tedomum.net
2021-03-18T07:08:53Z
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@Gina A somewhat cheaper alternative would be to use a hand held router (100-150€), remove the center with a large enough flat bit then sand the edges or try and build that curve with a small or ball bit.Sounds way harder and more dangerous though.
(DIR) Post #A5KKbBK1ra3FdT5LJA by Gina@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T07:09:38Z
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@kaiyou Sounds like my approach 😅
(DIR) Post #A5KKyt13ZmK7oJVwp6 by themactep@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T07:13:52Z
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@Gina @elohim here's the idea. https://youtu.be/nPD1_uYzltE?t=68
(DIR) Post #A5KLBiQkFEFMkCeBjk by themactep@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T07:14:26Z
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@Gina @elohim and this is a kind of bits you'll need to form inner curve. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001825400298.html
(DIR) Post #A5KLBivaOYuuHr4ooC by Gina@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T07:16:11Z
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@themactep @elohim Oooh look at that! That's what I was looking for, thanks!
(DIR) Post #A5KLYeoJrw22B6c5uC by elohim@mastodon.online
2021-03-18T07:20:19Z
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@GinaI love to do recreational wood working but I'm pretty bad when it comes to precision 😅 I would taper the edge by hand (or handhold tools). It'll definitely end up unevenly. However, I embrace my bad skills and call it an 'organic' look 😄It's awesome that you have access to a CNC. I wish I could rebuild some of my stuff with a propper machining. Especially the speakers.
(DIR) Post #A5KLf1IlA2UNfbsy3M by Gina@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T07:21:30Z
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@elohim Ah just asked, no CNC but definitely a router and some bits. Might try to build it if I can find some decent wood anywhere.
(DIR) Post #A5KLn2ND3mMDJKn2US by kaiyou@mastodon.tedomum.net
2021-03-18T07:23:00Z
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@Gina Then have a look at these, which are (imo) one of the best bang for your buck: https://www.dewalt.com/products/power-tools/routers-planers-and-joiners/routersThose could also be hacked into somewhat decent routers: https://www.dewalt.com/products/power-tools/cutout-toolsBe really careful, I find these tools are way more harmful than your standard jigsaw.
(DIR) Post #A5KLrkWWqtJTOnObYW by Gina@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T07:23:50Z
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@kaiyou lol I'm going to have 1000 euro's worth of woodworking tools in my house all to make one tiny coffee table.
(DIR) Post #A5KNa5F7HPpWM0xIFk by ajmartinez@social.librem.one
2021-03-18T07:43:00Z
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@Gina looked at it again with my glasses on 😂. You need a round nose router bit of your desired radius, a set of very flat rails, a flat router bit, a circle jig, and patience. If you also need to make the circle stock the circle jig and a jigsaw would help. There are of course handtool options as well though you will need to increase patience roughly 1000%. I can help if you want. Will bring tacos.
(DIR) Post #A5KOOlJL9687Iz623U by agarwaen@mastodon.tetaneutral.net
2021-03-18T07:52:06Z
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@Gina @kaiyou It's always like that ! Whaaaat ? This coffee table is 500€, i can make it myself for half the price ! Then you buy 1000€ of tools, 200€ of wood, 100€ of finishing products and a new drawer to put all the tools into… but YOU made the table ! 😁BTW, for your project, you can use a hand plane, a hand router (like a Stanley 71) and a carving gouge. #woodworking
(DIR) Post #A5KSk7brplnWMUCdTU by doenietzomoeilijk@mastodon.nl
2021-03-18T08:40:24Z
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@Gina businesses who target people with money to burn?
(DIR) Post #A5KTSYMthvnQ5rO58C by daniel_bohrer@chaos.social
2021-03-18T08:48:53Z
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@Gina you could also make the lip sisterly from a long studio of veneer and glue it on afterwards, and then shape it with handplanes or sandpaper if you don't have a power router yet
(DIR) Post #A5KVmUeVQuMkGiG9XU by FiXato@toot.cat
2021-03-18T09:14:53Z
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@Gina the bigger question is: who pays so much for a coffee table.Not me; I'd rather trawl second hand online markets for people giving theirs away.
(DIR) Post #A5KWiyVga3offO1JCq by person@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T09:25:28Z
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@Gina I would and some idiot who tries to send the "I'm rich" signal would buy it. Easy money 😎
(DIR) Post #A5KXhQOW2J4pWVUVNo by sarvasana@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T09:36:22Z
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@Gina Buy this and install 3 legs.https://www.bol.com/nl/p/houten-pizzaborden-o-35-cm-2-stuks-elzenhout/9200000120809542/
(DIR) Post #A5L0HtFf1LUWADWe3M by Gina@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T14:56:44Z
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@FiXato same!
(DIR) Post #A5LLKps2977DaFihQu by rudolf@fosstodon.org
2021-03-18T18:52:30Z
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@Gina You need to find out the specific name of the table edge. Then search for round wooden table plate with that edge. I speak some German, and found this:https://shop.gruendl.de/Kabinenausruestung/Teakzubehoer/Sonstige-Teakartikel/Teak-Tischplatte-nicht-geoelt-80-cm.htmlIt looks like making it is expensive. This is boat accessory, you might look at dutch boat supplies.I also found this coffee table, which is completely different but so sweet: https://www.neckermann.de/p/kayoom-beistelltisch-beistelltisch-morrison-525-tischplatte-mit-erhoehtem-rand-1215242625#14841927.0
(DIR) Post #A5LZeBGiDAo2oDNjOa by joshfowler@social.librem.one
2021-03-18T21:32:55Z
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@Gina people who make a lot of money with very little effort?
(DIR) Post #A5OLmbmchMx1TXJPjU by rudolf@fosstodon.org
2021-03-19T20:34:15Z
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@Gina I visited a friend today who used to make furniture as a professional. She said that to make a table top with that profile, you need a special machine (Router) and experience. A person without experience/education in working on wood has no chance. Sorry.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Router_(woodworking)
(DIR) Post #A5OLmc8xMKocanlFXk by Gina@fosstodon.org
2021-03-20T05:41:47Z
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@rudolf challenge accepted! 😂
(DIR) Post #A5WP4jKSHJ2V0bRDhg by jordan31@fosstodon.org
2021-03-24T02:56:34Z
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@Gina any progress on this? My suggestion would be to glue that edge on. A nice plywood that size and thickness would cost a small fortune.
(DIR) Post #A5WkXQ2LBPO8buUDFw by Gina@fosstodon.org
2021-03-24T06:57:03Z
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@jordan31 nope, the wood that I like costs a billion euros here in the Netherlands. My hope is to find a secondhand table on our Dutch Craigslist (Marktplaats) and then borrow my dads tools to make something out of it.
(DIR) Post #A8sNu20isKFgqlHSds by wion@writing.exchange
2021-07-02T11:00:54Z
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@Gina Looks like a thick round that's been routered out a heck of a lot. Doable if you have the router, jigs, & place to work.Another approach that requires no routing, though a perfect circle is needed, is to build the round as expected, then wrap the edge with thick veneer, or whatever you can bend, maybe two layers. Glue and clamp it. Aesthetic dark wood pegging might look cool too for additional strength. You won't have a fluted edge, but more or less the same functional result.
(DIR) Post #A8t3KMfEnxuAYUuGI4 by wion@writing.exchange
2021-07-02T18:45:47Z
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@Gina Briefly:- Build the top round (thickness 1x)- Cut arcs from wider planks (thickness 2x) grain-wise (divide circle by what’s easy to work with).- Use a gouge and wood vise to carefully rough shape the concave on inside top half of each arc.- Glue it all up.- Bore and add dark pegs (maybe on seems?)- Finishing shaping/smoothing fluted border as desired.The real challenge here is the math and getting arcs and angles accurate. Advanced fun! :)
(DIR) Post #A8uJMZc9Q6lZivUv7A by Gina@fosstodon.org
2021-07-03T09:20:16Z
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@wion I really appreciate all the effort you put into this 😁 thank you!!
(DIR) Post #A8udLlNQCU1ezvV0pk by wion@writing.exchange
2021-07-03T13:04:12Z
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@Gina I like thinking about the plans as much as trying them. I might even try this one some day because it’s an excellent exercise with tracing and cutting curves.I forgot to mention, you can make the arc pieces as wide as you want when cutting them out from the plank, which enables you to size them large enough to round off all the edges after assembled, really creating that fluted effect.