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(DIR) Post #A4feGEfCUoZ5or50QC by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-26T16:06:15Z
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Why do people still confuse nationalism (love of one's country) with Nationalism, an ideology of the totemic state born in Central Europe and which, when combined with Socialism produced some of the more brutal regimes the world has ever seen?Nationalism has nothing to do with love of one's country.
(DIR) Post #A4ffFSarJqbogeF8fg by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-26T16:17:19Z
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@ENZ0 Have you heard of the word CONTEXT?
(DIR) Post #A4ffOXZaAv72jiyZLU by mubby@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-26T16:18:58Z
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@Debradelai same reason why others are enamored with socialism?
(DIR) Post #A4fgMg8DU1veehqruC by McKie@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-26T16:29:50Z
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@Debradelai Yes! Patriotism is love of one's country; nationalism is nation-based collectivism. Many people today don't know what half of these terms mean, unfortunately.
(DIR) Post #A4fimPp4wP0jVqIg1A by WW_II_Historian@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-26T16:56:54Z
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@Debradelai I agree with your interpretation of the nationalism-Nationalism dichotomy.However, the term was born in 19th century to describe a movement aiming at uniting almost a hundred of small german-speaking states.My opinion - the term should stay there.We shouldn't assign any new meanings to this word (either with capital N or not). Let's leave the term where it belongs - in Germany.We should use our own terms that describe love to the country.
(DIR) Post #A4fkM7VibR5965pku0 by AirplaneDriver@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-26T17:14:33Z
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@Debradelai IMO these terms are deliberately confused by otherwise smart people, or least people who claim to be smart. A nationalist policy (such as MAGA) exposes the futility of the "one world" crowd and how damaging to US interests it has been...
(DIR) Post #A4fnambCvuhIRp5JCa by benz2003m@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-26T17:50:49Z
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@Debradelai Good point.
(DIR) Post #A4fnzF0SxzgNVAYt2u by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-26T17:55:14Z
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@BDMack @McKie No. That's a different thing.
(DIR) Post #A4ftX0vSKC53Ro8qMS by Wesihcfan@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-26T18:57:22Z
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@Debradelai Even worse is when they attach epidural pigment as a precursor to "nationalism".It gives them an avenue from which to virtue signal.
(DIR) Post #A4fu883UmOj2H4bFqq by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-26T19:04:05Z
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@Analysis_Paralysis Nope.
(DIR) Post #A4fvnoU02XKbgiRBaq by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-26T19:22:48Z
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@BDMack @McKie I gave you the clue:Philosophy of the totemic state emanating from Bohemia...Concentrate in the difference between nationalism as a civil characteristic (America, with people of various backgrounds united in their loyalty to the country), and Ethnic (Czechoslovakia, Germany, Fascist Italy) that erect the state as the totem of the tribe.
(DIR) Post #A4fwFMssFG5mCTDAUi by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-26T19:27:47Z
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@BDMack Not even close. Chauvin proposed nationalism based on language culture and tribe...long after Johan Gotfried Herder (275 years ago) who managed to be a nationalist and a pluralistic at the same time, greatly influencing our Founding Father's.Chauvin was an aberration, a proto Nazi-onanist.
(DIR) Post #A4fwaO3v3m9Bw3Ot72 by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-26T19:31:36Z
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@AirplaneDriver "IMO" that is a load of meaningless crap.Starting with the qualification of the MAGA hodgepodge as any kind of policy.
(DIR) Post #AHTaeqkClsKytKj1X6 by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2022-03-16T16:45:52Z
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@JeanLynch I only regret that I have but one life to give for my country.For years I paid homage to Nathan Hale at his statue in front of City Hall in NY.Would that we all hade his strength.
(DIR) Post #AHTi7vKNVaFhBSSIrY by Lou_Syd_Barrett@social.quodverum.com
2022-03-16T18:09:33Z
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@Debradelai @JeanLynch Great thread.