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(DIR) Post #A4DHRVbqgJeVpGONvs by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-12T23:38:23Z
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ThreadWhy are people having such a hard time accepting that "patriots" did in fact commit crimes on January 6, 2021?Remember a guy named Timothy McVeigh?Decorated combat veteran.Cold-blooded murderer.Nutcase.https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/us-prosecutors-former-fbi-official-navy-intel-office-key-figure-capitol
(DIR) Post #A4DHkmysJr7TCjM9EO by corychiarelli@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-12T23:41:52Z
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@ThomasWic it’s true, there was a guy on Twitter cheering the breach on, a very conservative guy. He repeatedly tweeted “you must chimp!” It was obnoxious and wrong
(DIR) Post #A4DHnTYkz2SJq5Q9Cq by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-12T23:42:22Z
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WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS BEFORE.McVeigh decided to commit mass murder as a result of the Branch Davidians disaster on April 19, 1993.McVeigh had never heard of Hanlon's Razor:"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
(DIR) Post #A4DI5zEvw4ijJ2yWgq by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-12T23:45:42Z
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The federal raid on the Waco compound was incompetent from beginning to end.The targets were heavily armed religious fanatics with an apocalyptic philosophy.So the LAST THING the feds should've done was RAID the compound.But they did, and four ATF agents were killed.Then it became a dick-measuring contest that could've ended in only one way.The federal government at the time was run by people who got hysterical when challenged.
(DIR) Post #A4DILKHzxNEuvwiu00 by LiveFree@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-12T23:48:29Z
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@ThomasWic The storming of the Capitol was done by idiots who fantasized they were heroic revolutionaries in a video game. They were idiots and the death of the Air Force gal was tragic but entirely predictable. She caused her own death with her stupidity. Boys are always taught “NO” means “NO” when a girl refuses their sexual advances. Stop means stop when a cop pulls his/her gun. Can’t get any clearer. It was a set up and many did not use their brains on that day.
(DIR) Post #A4DIMNLS55ckhTq4uG by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-12T23:48:40Z
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Their solution was to hit everything with a sledge hammer.All they had to do was ASK if an unarmed agent could come in and TALK with David Koresh for as long as it took.Here are the factors:
(DIR) Post #A4DISYhglLz1fMBkEy by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-12T23:49:46Z
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1. Religious fanatics terrified of the feds.2. A compound full of kids and guns.3. A surprise federal raid WITH NO COVER.
(DIR) Post #A4DIrCP4oN0Rk7ESMy by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-12T23:54:13Z
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There was only one possible outcome.And it led to the retaliatory mass murder of people who had nothing to do with Waco.McVeigh DELIBERATELY targeted children.Now, he was unstable to begin with, so the raid at Waco was only a rationale for committing mass murder.Just like election theft was only the rationale for the raid on the Capitol building.None of those idiots ever had any faith in Trump.
(DIR) Post #A4DJFFsjWxefTrZh68 by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-12T23:58:35Z
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It just goes to show that a background in the military and law enforcement doesn't make you as marter, better person.Most military and law-enforcement folks ARE ALREADY great people before they sign up.And the bad apples are ALREADY bad apples. CRITICAL THINKING, kids. Without it, we're lost.Thomas Edward Caldwell talked of sending in four-man sniper teams and heavy weapons to do what those are intended to do.IN THE CAPITOL.
(DIR) Post #A4DJTRBaIc1Kas9f16 by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T00:01:08Z
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If he's found guilty, I hope you agree that he needs to be put away for the rest of his life.Anti-government militias are nothing new. They're almost always BAD NEWS.They're a way of avoiding OUR responsibility to elect the proper politicians.The failure is OURS.And that's the unvarnished truth.END
(DIR) Post #A4DJvk5vafHnLY0QM4 by Dogstar_K9@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T00:06:16Z
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@ThomasWic When we have clean elections with an informed electorate, I would agree it would be on us.Hasn’t the information acquired through the 2020 election shown there’s a lot to be desired?There are really no babes in the woods.Thanks!
(DIR) Post #A4DJwiji7sl9QJ52h6 by akelm88@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T00:06:26Z
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@ThomasWic Our passivity put us into this situation. We wanted to sit back, watch tv and have others do it for us.....and they did....to our eternal shame.
(DIR) Post #A4DKhIJKC3eV4mwkWO by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T00:14:51Z
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@Dogstar_K9 One word:Turnout.The failure is entirely on US.
(DIR) Post #A4DLgTShLdstKFVIES by Affy1@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T00:25:54Z
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@redwhitebluedude @ThomasWic RWB, do you remember the hooligan soccer fans in Europe? In the 80's they would terrorize towns and create general havoc. I see the chuckle heads in PB, AreTheFa, boogie nights, etc. as the same bunch of idiots. Now if the Weather Underground spans a circle jerk, we'll have a "new" old level of lunacy.
(DIR) Post #A4DLpTiblOAGjBEsV6 by karnage@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T00:27:31Z
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@ThomasWic "I don't want to belong to any militia that will accept me as a member."
(DIR) Post #A4DM4YAZUrV0sNVOl6 by Chy66@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T00:30:15Z
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@ThomasWic @Dogstar_K9 we did turn out for president Trump! THEY stopped the count. I agree with you in all other points. I would also like to see these same laws applied to ANTIFA/BLM. They’ve done far more damage and the loss of life is 30+. I’m disgusted at ALL these groups of nutters!
(DIR) Post #A4DMAQBC7GHPpib2GW by carolinacally@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T00:31:19Z
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@ThomasWic I remember seeing a random interview of someone not associated to McVeigh right after he was caught. The man had the audacity to say that this is what happens when government overreaches. He was standing next to his son when he said it. I wonder if he would have thought the same had his son been in that daycare. McVeigh deserved execution and deserves to burn.
(DIR) Post #A4DMcWJEv3mUx7l3ei by TommyDK@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T00:36:23Z
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@ThomasWic Davidians along with the Weaver cabin debacle.
(DIR) Post #A4DMdp7KTfNnZdoBpw by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T00:36:37Z
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@ThomasWic The cold, hard reality. 💯 percent fact.It is what it is. I've learned to own it. Thank you Thomas.
(DIR) Post #A4DNHwgPlcBCceLpJ2 by TommyDK@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T00:43:53Z
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@redwhitebluedude @ThomasWic I am in DK and use Viaplay for just about everything. When watching youtube and I put it on ABC news (not anymore) it ALWAYS loads up with an ad for their documentary on "Domestic Terrorism" showing clips of Charlottesville and earlier. Ridiculous.
(DIR) Post #A4DOZbShVOsRyMv78S by Kelly62317572@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T00:58:17Z
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@ThomasWic I tweeted, as I watched the capitol being stormed, that they were in fact Trump supporters/patriots. I also tweeted hours before that there was some kind of setup because there were only 5 police in front & 5 in back. People were rightfully pissed off because their election was obviously stolen. Storming the capitol was never going to fix it tho. I'm not sure what will unless Trump has a plan.Violence wasn't the answer.
(DIR) Post #A4DRJmM7XBpizLzLE0 by Okpatriot1956@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T01:29:01Z
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@ThomasWic as a SURVIVOR (Murrah Bombing) I’m a bit surprised by your statements of McVeigh and stating of facts/ history of that day! Nichols/McVeigh did not do this because of WACO. (That was FBI narrative) I sat through the entire trial. Yes McVeigh and Nichols were scum/scapegoats . Many of my friends and children died that day . To have what happened totally ignored, rewritten and blamed on just two Patriot scapegoats as a revenge for Waco is an insult and a disgrace to their memory!
(DIR) Post #A4DRe9Mpghr69J2FBQ by Grammy@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T01:32:43Z
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@ThomasWic it shouldn't matter at all what political persuasion someone is. Talk of sending in sniper teams is all anyone really needs to know.
(DIR) Post #A4DSowHYmIBQhqHG1g by brianyourbro@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T01:45:53Z
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@redwhitebluedude @ThomasWic I interviewed the chairman of the Proud Boys. No question these knuckleheads are looking for a fight all the time.They go looking for trouble and trying to provoke people and then call it self-defense.
(DIR) Post #A4DTpKfkCDpIIxLBjc by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T01:57:09Z
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@Cowandos @ThomasWic Your 2nd Amendment right is to defend yourself, your loved ones and neighbors, yours and their property, etc., Not "the nation" unless you're officially part of that nation's defense. You being one of many scattered armed militias is THE DEMOCRATS' WET DREAM. Because you can be justifiably WIPED OUT. AND it can be used to TAKE YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT AWAY FOREVER.FACT: We outnumber them BY A LOT. Let them be the ONLY lawless ones. We WILL take back control.
(DIR) Post #A4DUV5WMuzfJTbrl44 by WatchfulCat@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T02:04:42Z
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@ThomasWic There are a wide variety of nuts.
(DIR) Post #A4DVIZkHKjkBPByBgu by WatchfulCat@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T02:13:39Z
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@God_Bless I have to agree
(DIR) Post #A4DVKg1owd1HTFB25A by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T02:14:01Z
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@Cowandos @ThomasWic I meant "you" in the rhetorical sense only. I/we/one would have worked just as well, so bad choice of words on my part. Nothing personal intended toward you.And your "solely for hunting and personal protection" are not my words. Did you catch that video of the woman who tackled a peeper in front of a police car? She was AIDING law and order. The same goes for our 2nd Amendment rights in terms of us as a "well regulated" (read=well armed) militia.
(DIR) Post #A4DVm2oiKDrZy161ku by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T02:18:58Z
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@Cowandos @ThomasWic I agree, and that's a fantastic rebuttal to an argument I never made.
(DIR) Post #A4DWAoYAVRICxVAVDU by WatchfulCat@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T02:23:26Z
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@ThomasWic Ahhh, the days of Janet Reno.....
(DIR) Post #A4DX7HS9ChO7OZENbk by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T02:34:00Z
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@Cowandos @ThomasWic You are misunderstanding me.Not even I am of the understanding "that 2nd is only related to hunting and personal protection".Only you used those constraining words. Not me.
(DIR) Post #A4DXixSxxk3MPZa1Ca by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T02:40:48Z
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@Cowandos @ThomasWic No harm no foul, misunderstandings are inevitable and unavoidable, we're on the same side.
(DIR) Post #A4DYvDeVhyu62cOFOK by BeThankful@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T02:54:14Z
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@ThomasWic During the Waco raid, AUSA, long time close friend said, "My Marshalls know better than that. I'd had them wait quietly in town and apprehend Koresh alone."Later we watched the fire and never spoke of it again.
(DIR) Post #A4DbmrcC3hNPEu0uuG by Elaines2cents@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T03:26:21Z
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@carolinacally @ThomasWic Absolutely agree. I don't think many here even understand the level of destruction McVeigh reigned down that day. Tragic.https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1995/05/03/issue.html
(DIR) Post #A4DcAO8BKbHYkKC3Bg by Elaines2cents@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T03:30:36Z
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@Okpatriot1956 @ThomasWic Sounds like a story that needs to be told. Have you a thread that you've experienced from that trial?
(DIR) Post #A4DcH9G91Pc8eM8pGq by Jajngn@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T03:31:48Z
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@ThomasWic Talking about something and organizing it are different things. I would hope people are so foolish as to think they could overthrow the government. As for the people calling themselves Proud Boys, Antifa makes them look like Boy Scouts. If people want a look at real overthrow, look at Portland. It’s rubbed off in whole state. Nothing works like it’s suppose to anymore.
(DIR) Post #A4DcdNM9I5CUk1Y4wa by Jajngn@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T03:35:50Z
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@ThomasWic @Dogstar_K9 Our small city’s mayor’s race was won by 6 votes. We nearly had an Antifa disciple as mayor. Some people just don’t think things through.
(DIR) Post #A4DceOTmbHjyVwbZ5c by ObiJimKinobi@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T03:36:01Z
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@ThomasWic @Dogstar_K9 Thomas I normally can agree with you but we did vote and we did turn out. I spoke with several people who’ve never voted ever in their life and they all voted trump this last election. We can’t do more than what we did. The other side cheated no doubt in my mind. This last election wasn’t on us. We fought for trump like our country and freedom was at stake because we knew it was. We left it all on the field as they say.
(DIR) Post #A4Ddg3ioqa0SfYzo0W by MAJA_4_THETRUTH@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T03:47:31Z
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@ThomasWic I, personally, know one of the hostage negotiators in this case....he spent countless hours speaking to those inside the compound & was severely shaken when it was sieged by the Government.
(DIR) Post #A4DpZ7AUplVGmUOeyu by Clayrjr@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T06:00:43Z
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@ThomasWic To respond to your first question...why no Patriots in January?Tom Brady moved to Florida.👊
(DIR) Post #A4EALzhROAymtGOJcW by Sabina@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T09:53:39Z
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@redwhitebluedude @ThomasWic In many cases, the government created them.
(DIR) Post #A4ELh0HzUWFqIOhwqO by palaeomerus@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T12:00:42Z
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@ThomasWic Antifa talked about doing the same in Austin to shoot police who tried to break up protests. It's why the mayor was pushed out of police matters and the DPS stepped in and the Ft. Hood was placed on standby in case they needed helicopters to track and shoot snipers on rooftops. In fact that is when the mob toleration in Austin stopped. The Governor would not tolerate talk of snipers engaging the police as a protest defense measure.
(DIR) Post #A4EaoyHMLbq3grfaeu by Hawksfan@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T14:50:12Z
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@ThomasWic I now disagree to an extent. How could we have failed when it’s been voter fraud putting so many nitwits into our government? We failed to call it out, I guess, but what could we do? Right now, if Trump doesn’t reclaim his win it will get worse and we will be awarded radical Leftists from now on.
(DIR) Post #A4EfUNkUxHZ0NEIigq by Okpatriot1956@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T15:42:30Z
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@Elaines2cents. Much written back in the day. I honestly don’t know anymore what truly is the truth of why and who actually responsible. But considering history of these types of heinous acts ONE thread is always the same. ... thus no need to bother. But I truly get offended to give McVeigh or Terry Nichols any credit for this, it’s how media/3 letter agencies change the facts, the truths. I don’t fault Wictor at all but on this subject I have a bit more personal eye witness account.
(DIR) Post #A4EkgpeNXnZ69bC7jk by MissionControl@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T16:40:46Z
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@Elaines2cents @carolinacally @ThomasWic Going to the site is overwhelming. There was a meeting going on across the street when the explosion happened. It was recorded and listening to a woman talk only to be interrupted is devastating to hear.
(DIR) Post #A4El7Yudsm8Q3sY0dU by WiseNana@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T16:45:37Z
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@Elaines2cents @carolinacally @ThomasWic I do. I live a couple hours away. Came home for lunch, turned on the TV and then got back in my car and went back to work. We had some clients, I was crying and telling all the advisors to turn on the TV. We had an office close by, military were our clients. The clients there watched and then called back to base and we closed the office. I will never forget anything we saw and watched.
(DIR) Post #A4Emcghr3UiRAGyKKu by TimToolMan@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T17:02:26Z
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@Elaines2cents @carolinacally @ThomasWic I took my kids to the memorial in OKC. We hung some trinkets on the fence.Sad day of vacation but something I felt they needed to see.
(DIR) Post #A4F0Tv0vtBGaI7bm52 by bkrg@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-13T19:37:43Z
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@ThomasWic Fantatic FACT that appears to be lost on 70% of the poplulation...Also applies to every other profession beyond military and LE.Maybe we call it "Wictor's Razor": Bad apples do bad things?
(DIR) Post #A4H5b4u0PYNt4bWNlo by Ylpnfolchik@social.quodverum.com
2021-02-14T19:44:24Z
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@ThomasWic What if the 1/6 incident was planned by dems and rinos, same as Charlottesville lie was planned by then gov. McAuliffe, who wanted as many deaths as needed to spark race war. And say Trump knew they would blame 1/6 on maga. So Trump actually invited maga to come to DC on 1/6, as he did more than once on twitter. And PURPOSELY delayed maga arrival at the capitol to expose/ruin the plot to blame staged maga (antifa) supporters. Trump knows his supporters are peaceful and not violent.