Post A41RMYdutHREsQW7Ga by brian@ap.tiuxo.com
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 (DIR) Post #A41D26RwbTueHtGl1s by feld@bikeshed.party
       2021-02-07T03:52:32.285786Z
       
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       Would anyone be interested in having payments in Pleroma so you could e.g., charge $2/mo to have an active account or maybe just a donations form built in?
       
 (DIR) Post #A41DOus3oqyf2MMa36 by Coopertronics@mastodon.online
       2021-02-07T03:55:58Z
       
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       @feld I would like to teach other people how to fold gravy.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41DOvMtyBeCa0nD7Y by feld@bikeshed.party
       2021-02-07T03:56:39.844103Z
       
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       @Coopertronics yes
       
 (DIR) Post #A41DW83XCCkrxOAYUa by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T03:57:57.948175Z
       
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       @feld no if people want to do that they should have to build it themselves, this is just asking for beggers to set up pleroma
       
 (DIR) Post #A41DhAxAlPgI81SeB6 by feld@bikeshed.party
       2021-02-07T03:59:58.610729Z
       
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       @ethot SomethingAwful forums have done this successfully for years and I think it's why that community still thrives and it's never had to deal with mass trolls and spammers. You fuck up, you lose your account and your $20. They'll let you back if you pay another $20 though but you can be permanently banned too. Helps fund the hosting and keep out jerks. Better than the best captcha or blocklists.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41Dt8XdYa8e7hDjOK by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T04:02:07.292794Z
       
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       @feld @ethot This has made a big difference. It would change the Fediverse for the better if we can make it accessible.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41DzXbbHaCPax80Bc by captain@pirateradio.social
       2021-02-07T04:03:17.764563Z
       
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       @feld Not interested and potentially against. If people need donations or payment there are plenty of options. That said, all the beautiful Pleroma devs should do whatever it takes for them to maintain interest in continuing their work as long as it’s a plus and not a minus
       
 (DIR) Post #A41EC6hYccpfv0uG7k by NickolasGir@paypig.org
       2021-02-07T04:05:31Z
       
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       @feldYeah
       
 (DIR) Post #A41EFbxgqzftjt7htg by feld@bikeshed.party
       2021-02-07T04:06:11.616213Z
       
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       @alex @ethot SomethingAwful also lets you pay to force change someone's avatar and bio. Also you pay to add custom emojis to the forum.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41EhUOiZQ2eO73gvo by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T04:11:13.175701Z
       
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       @captain @feld There are so many reasons to be for it, and so few to be against.For:Incentivizes admins to offer a high quality serviceRewards admins for their hard workGives users a way to feel engaged and feel like they’re a part of the platformFunds the costs of hosting so a service can stay perpetually onlineAn integrated experience people are reminded of when people visit the siteLess reliance on third-party platformsIt just changes the whole social dynamic in such a good way…Reasons to be against:Reliance on banks and/or proprietary APIs. To mitigate this we can use cryptocurrency only, or pluggable gatewaysThere should probably not be paywalls, just Patreon-style donations
       
 (DIR) Post #A41EptMbdCvC8R4rTM by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T04:12:44.733295Z
       
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       @alex @captain @feld it will lead to instances that exist for beggin
       
 (DIR) Post #A41EsNqNHIEnFMBoFk by snow@wintermute.fr.to
       2021-02-07T04:13:12.541044Z
       
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       @feld I think the better option is donation some new features, as peertube.List a possible features list, see which one got the donation first, and then develop it first.just not the 10000 ERO as peertube....
       
 (DIR) Post #A41EvTpHUZRifZ9eCm by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T04:13:44.924022Z
       
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       @a7 @captain @feld Then nobody will join them… integrated payments solve a real problem. You just made up a fake problem to justify not having them.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41EzErp3EvJQv8T0y by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T04:14:26.153846Z
       
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       @feld @ethot Paying to add custom emojis actually makes sense
       
 (DIR) Post #A41EzhnZU7kpA8Myum by rein@poa.st
       2021-02-07T04:14:31.875562Z
       
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       @alex @captain @feldIf you want a cryptocurrency invoice and payment system, there's BTCPay in case you don't know about it. You can probably just integrate it in the UI
       
 (DIR) Post #A41EzmH8q7mh30EeYq by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T04:14:31.651841Z
       
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       @alex @captain @feld no i expressed my actual opinion, its easy to setup a pleroma instance, it can host a bit of users with out hitting 2 dollar a user mark
       
 (DIR) Post #A41F616Cdfz0l95sjw by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T04:15:39.674546Z
       
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       @rein @captain @feld Yeah I integrated BTCPay into Tribes already, and wrote an Elixir library for it.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41F6CvIg2ONQo5LPc by Bajax@shitposter.club
       2021-02-07T04:15:42.530582Z
       
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       @alex @a7 @captain @feld >You just made up a fake problem to justify not having them.Hate when people do this.  An instance for begging wouldn't even be the worst thing in the world.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41F9RhQCDim7y8bBY by galena@paws.moe
       2021-02-07T04:16:17.443026Z
       
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       @a7 @alex @captain @feld So Gab2?
       
 (DIR) Post #A41FCZCyjadoHjO1fU by captain@pirateradio.social
       2021-02-07T04:16:51.281214Z
       
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       @alex @feld Agreed re: no paywalls.Adding money to things can pervert them in unforeseen ways. I’m wary of baking it in so early in its development. Always nice to have more options and more customization tho
       
 (DIR) Post #A41FIoHzZpbGnLhziC by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T04:17:57.920627Z
       
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       @Bajax @alex @captain @feld i likely wouldnt judge instances that did such, but i would not enable such a feature on my instance, that exist with public registrations where ive refused every offer of donations, cause i didnt set it up for that. personally to me, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth the thought of it, but i am rather “left leaning” I think if you offer something that deserves donations it shouldnt be hard for you to setup donations and it doesnt need to be integrated.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41FOAKH4Wh6aZKVMW by snow@wintermute.fr.to
       2021-02-07T04:18:56.330886Z
       
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       @feld That's not a good develop way. Sounds like pay for trolling someone's avatar.@alex @ethot
       
 (DIR) Post #A41FYxLTfqAHW22PcO by captain@pirateradio.social
       2021-02-07T04:20:54.039073Z
       
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       @alex @feld @ethot >Paying to add custom emojis actually makes sense🤢🤮You really bothered about the storage and bandwidth overhead for an additional 50kb image file? User submitted custom emojis with a configurable maximum like metadata fields should be the priority here, THEN it could become a property of a paid subscription
       
 (DIR) Post #A41FcLX6CaEtOt5et6 by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T04:21:29.943718Z
       
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       @captain @feld Spinster has had integrated donations for over a year and nothing but good has come from it. It is now literally my primary source of income that allows me to do everything else that I do. Same with Gleasonator.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41FdPYoiEpUBKOxjE by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-02-07T04:21:42.477412Z
       
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       @a7 @alex So, Mastodon instances.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41FnMtjT1AcorvsUS by seanking@traboone.com
       2021-02-07T04:23:30.796654Z
       
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       @alex @feld @ethot Yeah. Here's my two senses. We can have different ways by which Pleroma instances can monetize, such as through a donations form, pay to have an active account, or pay for additional features (i.e. to add custom emojis). That way, we could allow for instances to have the most flexibility in deciding how they want to make revenue and more interestingly, people could see which ways of monetization are realistically the most successful. At minimum, I would recommend at least being able to support a few payment methods such as BTCPay (or other ways to pay with crypto) and Authorize.net (or other debit and credit card processors). Maybe e-checks if possible.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41FqYWWhQFvkEb8oC by captain@pirateradio.social
       2021-02-07T04:24:04.958176Z
       
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       @alex @feld Your response seems disjointed from what I wrote.I’m glad you’re making money running servers, but devising more ways to charge users for different features is scummy af
       
 (DIR) Post #A41FtJ44dE6MfVbKhU by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T04:24:33.859597Z
       
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       @captain @ethot @feld It’s a feature that only admins have access to. People could easily abuse it if it were made public. Rewarding community members who donate by trusting them with this feature is mutually beneficial.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41FvoMXEpy2JeQlUm by snow@wintermute.fr.to
       2021-02-07T04:25:00.927099Z
       
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       @alex Just don't forget that the real decentralize network is will not really profitable, people may move to instance that willing to add new emojis free.I think setup some settings like VIP users can upload 100MB media, but non VIP users can upload 16MB will be reasonable.@feld @ethot
       
 (DIR) Post #A41G049YTGRsRqO7uq by captain@pirateradio.social
       2021-02-07T04:25:48.047067Z
       
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       @alex @ethot @feld I think this feature could and should be implemented without money being involved as a prerequisite.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41G8EfdFelPNrHtAG by snow@wintermute.fr.to
       2021-02-07T04:27:15.728488Z
       
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       @captain Usually less than 50KB .@alex @ethot @feld
       
 (DIR) Post #A41GH4gdjxBL1fyQoi by captain@pirateradio.social
       2021-02-07T04:28:52.412399Z
       
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       @ethot @alex @feld fuck that. Competitors that know how trivial the additional expenses are for a few database rows related to bookmarks, pins, and lists will bully the fuck out of any admin putting it behind a paywall. I’d set up a server out of pure fucking spite.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41GMGLrnVtMeUjO8u by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T04:29:48.168186Z
       
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       @captain @ethot @feld I think you’re being short-sighted. The Fediverse could be so much more if it wasn’t surrounded by people trying to stunt it all the time. It’s genuinely aggravating.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41GOa2hYg7kIks7GK by OldHag@spinster.xyz
       2021-02-07T04:30:13.670845Z
       
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       @ethot I second that. @alex @captain @feld
       
 (DIR) Post #A41GR6roUNhWgRz8aW by seanking@traboone.com
       2021-02-07T04:30:41.227345Z
       
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       @alex @captain @ethot @feld Yep. The current struggle is that if users were allowed to add custom emojis for free, this could easily be abused. Especially since these custom emojis once they're uploaded and configured, they're available for anyone to use. Currently as it is with just admins only being allowed to do it, it's fine but it places instances and their admins in a strange position where they're having to act like a publisher because if other users are able to see a Nazi flag per se as a custom emoji available to them, people will get the wrong impression that the instance supports Nazism. I think the requirement to pay if you want to have your own custom emojis would be a perfect balance to best mitigate the issues with custom emojis currently as much as possible.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41GSIARxWz41OGYGu by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T04:30:52.963796Z
       
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       @OldHag @ethot @captain @feld Well, we’d tolerate the abuse because at least we’re getting paid for it.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41GZ03PheXFs2Ao3k by OldHag@spinster.xyz
       2021-02-07T04:32:06.751499Z
       
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       @alex Capitalism makes me horny.@captain @ethot @feld
       
 (DIR) Post #A41GpMviQ2TNS5NUTg by captain@pirateradio.social
       2021-02-07T04:35:04.206410Z
       
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       @OldHag @alex @ethot @feld Makes me sickLet’s add user analytics so we can plug in ad networks next. /s
       
 (DIR) Post #A41GsPs1wUpFRO6iTQ by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T04:35:36.830695Z
       
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       @captain @ethot @feld I regret saying this in reply to you, because I know you’re putting a lot of work into your Fediverse app. I meant the statement generally, not at you specifically.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41GvhFnlfSYDtn4D2 by captain@pirateradio.social
       2021-02-07T04:36:13.010074Z
       
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       @seanking @alex @ethot @feld I agree that there’s potential for abuse but the first solution should be better tools for moderators, not let’s charge the users.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41GyFVXNrvZ2SMrfk by snow@wintermute.fr.to
       2021-02-07T04:36:39.683758Z
       
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       @alex It's reasonable to donate money to let the developer survive, but it's also reasonable for the person paid the money feeling worthy.That's why I mentioned the VIP users can upload 100MB media option and the donation for new functions option.@captain @ethot @feld
       
 (DIR) Post #A41Gz8YygmMLn3OtAe by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T04:36:49.176231Z
       
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       @alex @captain @ethot @feld you are such a disingenuous prick, thanks for contributions, but otherwise i hope you burn in hell
       
 (DIR) Post #A41H1l46VhVzmVD2B6 by OldHag@spinster.xyz
       2021-02-07T04:37:18.970018Z
       
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       @ethotAgreed!@captain @alex @feld
       
 (DIR) Post #A41HIDZEJATkoPcIIy by seanking@traboone.com
       2021-02-07T04:40:17.212151Z
       
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       @a7 @alex @captain @ethot @feld If your definition of a disingenuous prick includes suggesting there's more possible potential for the fediverse, I don't know what to tell you, man. You've got some issues yourself, man. Maybe take a break and log off if that'll help you to have more open-minded and civil conversations with the likes of Alex.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41HQQbzh083aNpBmS by alex@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T04:41:45.343151Z
       
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       @a7 @captain @ethot @feld Ahhh yes, I remember why I muted you now. I decided to give you a second chance, but that’s the end of it. Please get yourself together, man.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41HRRdbMbqf3c3rX6 by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T04:41:55.774661Z
       
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       @seanking @alex @captain @ethot @feld except he is not, hes calling any one that says “i dont think monetization should be an inbuilt thing” some one who is “stunting the fediverse” hes making disingenuous arguments and declaring anyone who says they disagree a liar by saying “they made it up” alex might be “open minded” after you ride his cock but hes a fucking prick
       
 (DIR) Post #A41HUfGT9iBIBmmDFA by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T04:42:31.477478Z
       
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       @alex @captain @ethot @feld you were a prick first, oh no i was a prick back, now play victim you fucking fake, need 1k a month for your bleeding vagina instance you fucking fake
       
 (DIR) Post #A41Hguj5Un3dcL0Hj6 by captain@pirateradio.social
       2021-02-07T04:44:44.951942Z
       
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       @seanking @a7 @alex @ethot @feld There’s plenty of potential in the fediverse, and if admins making money is how the development continues then that’s a necessary evil, but when someone (self-admittedly) makes their living off of admining we can’t pretend that doesn’t potentially skew their motives. Nothing against Alex whatsoever, just saying what’s true and what’s possible.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41HxGZE3jfbzOBj8K by seanking@traboone.com
       2021-02-07T04:47:42.381417Z
       
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       @a7 @alex @captain @ethot @feld He clarified he meant the "stunting the fediverse" more in general. Not specifically Captain. The only thing he said was that he thinks Captain is being short-sighted. Jesus fucking Christ. You're a pretty intolerable prick if I've seen any. And don't whine about how I called you one because you know you're the one who decided to call Alex a "disingenous prick".
       
 (DIR) Post #A41I0zwbnwd9anuA9Q by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T04:48:22.052644Z
       
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       @seanking @alex @captain @ethot @feld jesus christ you fucks are pathetic
       
 (DIR) Post #A41I42wT7Dopl6IDfk by seanking@traboone.com
       2021-02-07T04:48:56.169469Z
       
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       @a7 @alex @captain @ethot @feld "Grrrr you pathetic fucks. Grrrrr."- a7, 2021
       
 (DIR) Post #A41I97ve0DKKflKVcW by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T04:49:48.400171Z
       
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       @seanking @alex @captain @ethot @feld my first response to me saying “i think it would attract beggers” was accusing me of making shit up and basically telling me to shut up and that im lying, my response was measured and you are a brainwashed fuck.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41ILSfohSDSUCoAeu by seanking@traboone.com
       2021-02-07T04:52:05.044983Z
       
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       @a7 @alex @captain @ethot @feld Come on, a7. It's not hard to take the L. Just admit to trying to stir the pot instead of trying to have an actual constructive conversation about the topic of monetization and Pleroma.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41IO8NoayS0QRf8e8 by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T04:52:32.733610Z
       
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       @seanking @alex @captain @ethot @feld thats not at all what happen and this is complete bullshit, eat a bullet
       
 (DIR) Post #A41IYfRGYADDqFIcBU by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T04:54:27.061493Z
       
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       @seanking @alex @captain @ethot @feld this is how it started, but i guess you ride his dick so hard its fine for him to be a prick and not expect some one to be a prick back
       
 (DIR) Post #A41IYlSu8z5WX470ZU by seanking@traboone.com
       2021-02-07T04:54:29.295300Z
       
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       @a7 @alex @captain @ethot @feld If "eAt A bUlLeT" is all you have to say, I get why Alex muted you. You're not gonna have a good time working with others on improving the fediverse if that's your attitude towards others including me and Alex. Just saying.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41Ic7vT5lWh3t4kyG by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T04:55:04.617706Z
       
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       @seanking @alex @captain @ethot @feld eat a bullet, this facade of civility is a complete bullshit, it has no basis in actual civility
       
 (DIR) Post #A41Ih6mGmylqwq9H28 by seanking@traboone.com
       2021-02-07T04:55:59.805499Z
       
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       @a7 @alex @captain @ethot @feld Log off right now or I'll personally block you. Got it?
       
 (DIR) Post #A41IjDqNUItXRW4u7k by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T04:56:21.084723Z
       
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       @seanking @alex @captain @ethot @feld block me you fucking joke, like i give a shit about you
       
 (DIR) Post #A41JcsYHpxwncl9gXo by flvc@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T05:06:26.182493Z
       
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       @alexI completely agree with all your points. I'd rather contribute financially than having Facebook and some shady consulting and advertising companies mining my data and spying on me all the time. @captain @feld
       
 (DIR) Post #A41JksN6OLiPNhjkyO by captain@pirateradio.social
       2021-02-07T05:07:52.672920Z
       
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       @flvc @alex @feld Donate to the devs then. I know @hj accepts them. Tell @lain to accept donations.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41JwQwID7IbmBhyEK by flvc@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T05:09:58.215387Z
       
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       @captainI try to donate to open source projects as much as I can. I even donated to Signal. @alex @feld @hj @lain
       
 (DIR) Post #A41K17BZ57pPxX5GIS by captain@pirateradio.social
       2021-02-07T05:10:48.679512Z
       
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       @flvc @alex @feld @hj @lain Leave a note with the next one asking why we can’t customize what signal server we connect to in the main client
       
 (DIR) Post #A41KNyVPWGexhQGcSW by flvc@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T05:14:56.766235Z
       
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       @captainAlright, I will. @alex @feld @hj @lain
       
 (DIR) Post #A41KQakwHBL2uUmJ9c by Xalef@shitposter.club
       2021-02-07T05:15:25.410071Z
       
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       @ethot @captain @OldHag @alex @feld It will eventually be, because the whole idea is based around making money, that is its core, not the fucking emojis, they are just a getaway, a mental gymnastic, so following that foundation, yeah, seems dark if implemented that way.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41KYfYWJa5e73oxqy by OldHag@spinster.xyz
       2021-02-07T05:16:52.298248Z
       
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       @Xalef Yolo. Everything eventually dies. @ethot @alex @captain @feld
       
 (DIR) Post #A41L8I3j9V0XfFP42i by Xalef@shitposter.club
       2021-02-07T05:23:18.974420Z
       
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       @captain @seanking @a7 @alex @ethot @feld That taints the dream :notlikemiya: Why is it so hard to just keep it in a schema of only donations? Is it honestly and wholeheartedly not working or sucking so much that you have to rely on thinking in new ways of monetizing your servers or is it just greed? Like if that's the case at least admit it, I guess people would be more accepting of that, than of some mental gymnastics around emotes to make more money.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41LE6YKqTOfiQUajQ by Xalef@shitposter.club
       2021-02-07T05:24:22.296629Z
       
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       @OldHag @alex @captain @ethot @feld Lmao
       
 (DIR) Post #A41LPla6dtPK9HsiMy by Xalef@shitposter.club
       2021-02-07T05:26:28.757315Z
       
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       @ethot @OldHag @alex @captain @feld Yeah, that's my point and how I see the fediverse as well, but everything I have read in this thread suggest to me that this guy alex wants to make it more profitable, and what I am saying is at least be straight about it, no facades, no bullshit.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41LkjE4awDivPZTVo by captain@pirateradio.social
       2021-02-07T05:30:15.567044Z
       
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       @ethot @Xalef @OldHag @alex @feldIt does because it takes man-hours to implement and will be a consistent factor that will muck up/slow down the addition of all features to be implemented after it. We need more configuration of moderator tools and user permissions before we should consider baking in payment options.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41Lot3M02weYsXYci by Xalef@shitposter.club
       2021-02-07T05:31:01.120647Z
       
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       @ethot @OldHag @alex @captain @feld It sets a precedent, and a getaway and fucks with the whole idealistic foundation of a free internet, for explaining it easy, it goes from a FOSS ideal to a fremium ideal, and you said it yourself, people is going to abuse the fuck out of it, and the dream will collapse on its own just out of greed, as many others, now can we keep that from happening or not?
       
 (DIR) Post #A41LuZWFXVD9iQlbX6 by captain@pirateradio.social
       2021-02-07T05:32:02.402537Z
       
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       @ethot @OldHag @Xalef @alex @feld Cool. Don’t spread disinformation when you’re not informed enough to know what you’re talking about.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41NS5GOdTHLgAtZ0C by Xalef@shitposter.club
       2021-02-07T05:49:18.532820Z
       
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       @ethot @OldHag @alex @captain @feld Welp, I believe we can, we are interacting after all, ultimately it is not my decision but a not yet taken of the hosts and developers, but my ideas and stand were heard, and I'm guessing most users would prefer still to just donate to the host, rather than having some bullshit paid commodities, like ffs in a sense we are all big corp refugees, implementing monetization in such aggressive ways would just kill the instances in the really long run. Look at it this way, the whole fediverse is the alternative to normie social media, someone from there would just look at all the "premium" features and will just stick to Facebook or twitter or whatever. Give it some more years and next thing you know servers start doing analytics for money.My question still is, why is it so hard to stick to donations only? Literally everyone seems fine with that.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41R3NSoEL4QhfAxNY by flvc@gleasonator.com
       2021-02-07T06:29:39.332744Z
       
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       @XalefI've just discovered that Fediblock list and looks like all the free speech instances are on there. The leftists want the Fediverse to be a commie and gay echo chamber.@ethot @OldHag @alex @captain @feld
       
 (DIR) Post #A41RMYdutHREsQW7Ga by brian@ap.tiuxo.com
       2021-02-07T06:33:06.116902Z
       
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       @alex @captain @feld can we set up a reverse system? I want my admin to pay me to use bleroma$2/post, soykafposting is real work mang
       
 (DIR) Post #A41SLCHEf1QDAup5vs by anonymoose@fedi.club
       2021-02-07T06:44:04.947515Z
       
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       @Xalef @ethot @OldHag @alex @captain @feld It sets a precedent, and a getaway and fucks with the whole idealistic foundation of a free internetThen set up your own server without it. If you're free server adds more value then Alex's premium server, you win (and bare all the hosting costs and administration overhead on your own). Free internet saved, well done.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41Sz5eogwhKEBsLWi by Xalef@shitposter.club
       2021-02-07T06:51:18.002200Z
       
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       @anonymoose @OldHag @alex @captain @ethot @feld :npc: ok.
       
 (DIR) Post #A41TSrjx03fJkgTVom by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
       2021-02-07T06:56:39.051346Z
       
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       @anonymoose @Xalef @OldHag @alex @captain @ethot @feld even if you do so apparently Alex will call it a lie and attack, Alex claimed all spinster donations went directly to spinster and he recently admitted it pays his bills, but interesting fact considering how he responds to others saying they prefer not to make monetization a primary development concern
       
 (DIR) Post #A41U17kPzU5DFD1sQq by snow@wintermute.fr.to
       2021-02-07T07:02:47.445565Z
       
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       @Xalef ALL OF YOU~Who is going to fix the bug that "unable to add new emojis in the backend" in the 2.2.2 version and released 2.3.0? https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/-/issues/2462:amegablobsweats:How could you folks getting extra money even that bug is not fixed?I felt this is super ridiculous.@captain @a7 @alex @ethot @seanking
       
 (DIR) Post #A41USNabCSOgC9Qtl2 by Xalef@shitposter.club
       2021-02-07T07:07:47.962501Z
       
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       @snow @alex @captain @ethot That's a top kek :pepelaugh:
       
 (DIR) Post #A422PInNxnPcts7Mp6 by MechaSilvio@poa.st
       2021-02-07T07:50:33.198790Z
       
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       @Bajax @alex @a7 @captain @feld The Beggiverse
       
 (DIR) Post #A43GefrS56m1ITChiy by feld@bikeshed.party
       2021-02-08T03:42:34.375395Z
       
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       @captain @ethot @OldHag @Xalef @alex we can do both.
       
 (DIR) Post #A44LkNxkEaf8S5eMIy by feld@bikeshed.party
       2021-02-08T16:14:22.611021Z
       
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       @captain @alex @ethot > You really bothered about the storage and bandwidth overhead for an additional 50kb image file? No, but you're forcing the user to pay money to upload an emoji without supervision/approval so there's a penalty if they did something offensive. It adds necessary friction to reduce abuse. It makes people think about what they value.