Post A3umMXExEUG4nFFZXU by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
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(DIR) Post #A3ug0kPkyGvvYZWxE0 by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:14:10.401069Z
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i feel like modern “liberalism” functions like that one story The Scorpion and the Frog it really fucking does.>if you disagree with my thoughts you think have negative actions i will cry until you comply out of guiltand then it never fucking stops, we already see what niaa does with this, this will be normal liberalism in 30 years
(DIR) Post #A3ugICTNu4jzV9Y86C by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:17:19.888959Z
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The main issue is unrelated to the latter part is you aren’t even allowed to passively disagree any passive disagreement will be warped into violence
(DIR) Post #A3ugP9A8bsRDGGrLRA by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:18:35.532977Z
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@a7 SHUT UP CHUD! SILENCE IS VIOLENCE!
(DIR) Post #A3ugXSkRfuU6K0o71s by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:20:05.237653Z
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You can’t just say “ I think you are wrong” even a i think will be taken as “y-y-you think i deserve to die and am evil!”First off evil, we are all fucking evil to some degree, if you think nothing about you is shit you are fucked in the head beyond even trying to better yourself in anyway
(DIR) Post #A3ugt3dfi9g0okw6s4 by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:23:59.627430Z
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@lucky i would agree largely with this slogan in the 1960s and some places in the south considering what its applied to, maybe i am the scorpion o shit
(DIR) Post #A3uh2DZk8W1uF3Szbc by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:25:39.055815Z
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@lucky i mean agree with the slogan in terms of “something urgently needs to be done” not that you are actually causing violence
(DIR) Post #A3uhCUvOUGqIwfUmI4 by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:27:30.502448Z
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@a7 The slogan is fine on it's own (in that if someone believes the situation is so serious that compacency is evil), but combined with "shutup" it becomes inconsistent, and that is worse than evil (for me).
(DIR) Post #A3uhN7lEwxHqI0oTSK by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:29:25.266775Z
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@lucky well, i think in large part complacency has been evil for a long time, but its a slowly building up evil, so its hard to be like “dude why arent you sacrificing your life right now, serious evil shit is microscopically building up like an aging human reaching death”
(DIR) Post #A3uhsPIbnF69f0L0AS by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:35:05.011887Z
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@a7 It's evil from most commonly held morality, yes. As a Christian, it is evil to you.If I held common morality (which I used to), I would not be where I am, I would be spending every second of every day, and all my money trying to stop the evils of the world, such as the situation in places like Yemen or the recent Myanmar genocide.However, I realize I, and most people, do not do this, and thus common morality is inconsistent. I thus rejected it and formed a new morality that requires "closeness" to be an empathy trigger.Basically the ordering of empathy for me now is family > friends (o atm) > internet frens > people who hold similar opinions > local citizens > national citizens > citizens of similar cultures > cute animals > humanity > ugly and creepy animals > everything elseWith a an exception that any people who are sick fucks in any group below internet frens drop below the rest of humanity on the list.
(DIR) Post #A3ui2ZozWhKvBsKl6m by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:36:55.400996Z
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@a7 Wait, actually they drop below creepy animals. So, for example, a serial killer drops below a creepy spider in terms of my empathy.
(DIR) Post #A3ui3oKr37ywUhpHKC by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:37:08.689446Z
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@lucky sounds like its still evil to you but its more a matter of priorities, which makes it sound like you are basically having the exact same thought process of me, which makes me ask, what is your point?
(DIR) Post #A3uiFaHD94owMnjfzk by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:39:16.034347Z
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@lucky i guess we differ here, i think they should be imprisoned for life rather than killed, there are multiple lines of thought that lead to this, such as secular that the justice system is just flawed, truth is unknowable by man, but i think spiders are fine to step on
(DIR) Post #A3uiOh6n77COA6CphA by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:40:55.160389Z
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@a7 No, you're christian. I am not. More to the point, while I believe there are effects of historical racism that are clear in present society, and some structural racism, I believe the two things often get conflated, and much of what is called "structural racism" is in fact long lasting results of past structural racism. Combine this with "critical race theory" and basically every post-modern critical theory that is not logically and empirically sound, and the demand for signalling over consequential action, and I just stop caring.
(DIR) Post #A3uiT5i5aUeRcXkSau by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:41:42.963059Z
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@a7 I think they should be used for human experimentation. Not sick dissection or shit like that, but testing new drugs on them instead of innocent chimps.
(DIR) Post #A3uiVLbXSob5UllCoy by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:42:07.472885Z
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@a7 As a mouse, you should sympathize with all the lab mice sacrificed instead of serial killers.
(DIR) Post #A3uiXCI14EJPBWVjrE by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:42:27.382718Z
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@lucky still doesnt sound like you disagree with me and you are just changing the subject
(DIR) Post #A3uifdC4vDJswYksiG by icedquinn@blob.cat
2021-02-04T00:43:58.641116Z
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@a7 @lucky there were some experiments with cellular automta that demonstrated a post-racist world can look identical to a racist world because once the forces that pushed people in to the ghettos are gone the tribes still like living in their ghettos.
(DIR) Post #A3uigsXLMX58ooIS36 by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:44:11.810506Z
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@lucky the issue is the likely hood of some one being innocent, it takes a large bit of faith to trust the american justice system, i find it odd that some one could think ‘the election was rigged’ but the trial of some random dude couldnt be rigged or badly presented when prosecutors careers basically consist of prosecuting as many people as possible then holding office until they hit the supreme court if top of their line.
(DIR) Post #A3uihqhLgSjhPDRHyS by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:44:23.037146Z
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@a7 I never disagreed with your posts before. I said the slogan is fine if you think something is in urgent need of action on moral grounds (which you said was true in the 1960s).My post was making fun of people who say it now after saying "shutup, chud!"
(DIR) Post #A3uilX5gWffzkiZwYq by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:45:01.752651Z
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@icedquinn @lucky ya i still dont agree with this, you all seem far too focused on current liberalism talk about racism and conflating it with a bunch of shit i said that was actually much different.
(DIR) Post #A3uimjKoULkO14E4Po by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:45:15.745384Z
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@icedquinn @lucky *still dont disagree with this
(DIR) Post #A3uip43SQH1KrEDkzg by georgia@netzsphaere.xyz
2021-02-04T00:45:40.817206Z
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@lucky @a7 i just hate the word chud. it's ridiculous.
(DIR) Post #A3uiv6TGLtt25ZAe8m by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:46:46.564507Z
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@a7 Require very high levels of probability (videos of the killings, confessions, body in the same house, laughing about it and providing details only the killer could know). Otherwise give them a PS2 and a comfy cell.
(DIR) Post #A3uj2u8m535AABJ7Oy by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:48:10.956454Z
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@lucky video cant even be trusted in modern day, confessions were never a trustable source, body can be in the same house do to other circumstances, direct proof of the person doing it , giving details goes back to the first issue, video cant even be trusted in the modern day, the whole “deep fakes” issue
(DIR) Post #A3uj3BJgDkuHQvXZGC by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:48:14.307501Z
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@georgia @a7 It's a B movie from the 80s. I remember my dad telling me about it 10-15 years ago (Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers) and I downloaded it and watched it (it sucked) and then it started becoming an insult for right wing people and I just thought it was bizarre.
(DIR) Post #A3ujDDLzV8KweDPCDY by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:50:02.229607Z
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@a7 I sense you're in the mood for an argument. I am never in that mood so I will just disagree on this one.Don't forget, I said medical trials. I've been on experimental drugs myself and I'm not a serial killer. You're making too big a deal out of the idea because you are in a fighting mood I can tell.
(DIR) Post #A3ujEbYizXce0c1a0O by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:50:18.083153Z
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@lucky there was the new york kid who found the body of a lady, white kid, they interrogated him for the allowable 48 hours, they employed “methods” not allowing him to sleep, which were technically illegal, he didnt do it, dna evidence proved otherwise and you can watch the bullshit of an interrogation that happen, theres been a few thousand cases overturned in the modern era since dna evidence, and now we are at a point where event tape can be faked.
(DIR) Post #A3ujJyWn1OwAh2gEim by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:51:16.322770Z
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@lucky na not really, these are just facts of the issue with death penalty and the use justice system, a lot of people have been falsely convicted its not a myth and they all thought proper care had been taken then too
(DIR) Post #A3ujMukZWW6RqUWoTI by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:51:48.153149Z
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@lucky *technically legal
(DIR) Post #A3ujiIbY1olpuUVKV6 by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:55:40.036658Z
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@a7 Wait, I still disagree with "silence is violence". Silence is complacency with evil (given an evil situation) is more accurate.I don't like conflating things. Violence is an actual act. Conflating that action with an inaction is inaccurate and an emotional argument fuck you!
(DIR) Post #A3ujq8Rlg7iiitfNjM by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:57:04.802606Z
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@lucky yes but its a slogan they don’t convey literal meaning generally- don’t think its meant convey a literal thought but rather stir another thought
(DIR) Post #A3uk0WAgKIhrCOcpVY by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:58:57.673871Z
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@a7 Well maybe they should change that? Or at least add "(figuratively)" to their signs.
(DIR) Post #A3uk20VR1nyJZP2hd2 by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:59:13.782904Z
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@lucky basically im saying “there is a time when hyperbole is acceptable”i think hyperbole is acceptable in some times and placesjust like i think the hyperbole of “its gonna send you to hell and you will rot for all eternity” is acceptable in some circumstances
(DIR) Post #A3uk40OePEDvoGp2Gm by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T00:59:35.426822Z
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@lucky maybe society is becoming so autistic this is nessecery
(DIR) Post #A3ukIs3bh5E8I04FTU by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:02:16.038621Z
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@lucky like in the song “Rape me” do you think kurt cobain is literally asking to be raped?
(DIR) Post #A3ukTcBR3JDMF8qu8m by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:04:13.173311Z
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@a7 He was clearly mentally ill so yes.
(DIR) Post #A3ukbD2WQ6wcZtIw8e by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:05:35.620603Z
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@a7 I honestly think many (most?) people who shout such slogans think they are being 100% honest and factual and not hyperbolic. If it was an online post it would bother me less. But when I see people screaming it through megaphones at people eating lunch then I assume they believe what they are saying.
(DIR) Post #A3ukmacj4lnquKfIwr by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:07:38.673307Z
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@lucky they might have autism too, never know with todays world
(DIR) Post #A3ul10SLpMhf52gdtY by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:10:15.347888Z
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@a7 From my personal experience, most left wing people are in default mode. It's what they have been fed by media and education their entire lives.The people in power at the moment (neo-liberals) are actually less default, which is interesting. They cater to the left but make sure class politics remains fringe. By neoliberal I mean mainline democrats. Mainline republicans are neoconservatives. Both groups sing the tune of money money moneyyyy.
(DIR) Post #A3ulGaNSYWlqpbpNNw by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:13:03.927431Z
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@lucky in my experience shortly it was the other way around, and its just a changing society and the political alignment doesn’t really apply to this thought. its really just “a large number of people” and its just slow indoctrination and changing culture to cultivate those changes and aquire maximum control by the evil such that seek control. Maybe monarchy is better because at least you have a chance of some one who doesnt desperately desire control put into control against their will through other factors.
(DIR) Post #A3ulHn7meDnMei4Prc by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:13:16.693090Z
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@a7 Most right wing people are mostly refuse. Refuse from the christian right and poor social conservatives. They will not succeed. I think internet losers like myself like them because they are the clear underdogs.
(DIR) Post #A3ulKJautdn7wEtsvo by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:13:44.464500Z
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@lucky see other response
(DIR) Post #A3ulkx7yXGEM4s46Ay by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:18:33.462616Z
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@a7 You're experience is probably true locally (in the south) but I think clearly is not true nationally and thus federally. I dunno. I am always willling to admit my ignorance. Maybe the right is a real entity with power. Crunk shilled moldbug so I've been reading his blog.
(DIR) Post #A3ulvMUH6UJdcoSVyy by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:20:26.350116Z
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@a7 huh?
(DIR) Post #A3ulwAuDeImHzkywMa by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:20:35.167356Z
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@lucky na its everywhere, the “moral majority” was a “conservative republican” movement that seeked to censor as much as possible and view basic music and video games as acts of murder and satanism.
(DIR) Post #A3ulwqGdrq4kHAmvVQ by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:20:42.518043Z
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@a7 I don't see it.
(DIR) Post #A3um28J8DoxVfsTXvM by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:21:39.861002Z
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@a7 But I don't think they were even the majority 20-40 years ago when they had a voice. Now they are barely a minority.
(DIR) Post #A3um3VThYmv3pH4ghU by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:21:54.639297Z
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@lucky the mainline accepted thought of what society should be and how it will be and what people ought to think was largely “conservative” in thought.
(DIR) Post #A3um9k3AIKdol2dSZE by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:23:02.291948Z
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@lucky how does that not apply to exactly what i said, its those currently in power through indoctrination by what ever means, breaking it into left and right and not seeing its two sides of the same coin in the two party system is over looking a lot, patriot act, “conservative republican” president
(DIR) Post #A3umCwtoygPRTgnJ8C by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:23:37.228638Z
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@a7 I'm thinking of articles like this one https://graymirror.substack.com/p/donald-trump-the-natural-experiment
(DIR) Post #A3umMXExEUG4nFFZXU by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:25:20.878552Z
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@lucky this doesnt refute anything ive said its just your current gripe, its almost like you are in the exact trap im talking about and rather than going after the 100 dollar bill you are just staring at the tails side of the coin and going “boy it was great when the same repressiveassholes were in power when this was their propaganda and twitter wasnt around”
(DIR) Post #A3umP8VrcmRoyJOqkS by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:25:49.286259Z
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@a7 While I do belive Bush should be in jail for war crimes and was a worse president than Trump, I don't think he was super socially conservative and I don't think anybody as socially conservative as himself will be in power. His opinions have changed to match the current zeitgeist, because he is a creature of power.
(DIR) Post #A3umTIHFGO3MPgXomW by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:26:34.447034Z
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@a7 >read the article in 2 minutesI wasn't even using it as an argument, just sharing stuff I've been reading lol
(DIR) Post #A3umWidDjbb91ESMT2 by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:27:11.457675Z
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@lucky trump was more socially liberal than bush by a giant degree, trump use to call out bush for his social conservatism
(DIR) Post #A3umXqrUcWbiplfkQq by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:27:23.644810Z
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@a7 When I mentioned I've been reading Curtis Yarvin's blog.
(DIR) Post #A3umnDO19mHn2KDAIa by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:30:10.293266Z
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@a7 Trump is a conman. He's not liberal or conservative.On his policies, a Bush in 2016 would have been less socially conservative than Trump on immigration issues.A Bush will be as socially conservative as the cathedral requires, just as a Biden will be as liberal as required. Just enough to keep the system going.
(DIR) Post #A3umvUxBj4EbpxbzqC by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:31:39.946984Z
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@lucky thats my point, its still the cathedral just cause certain bishops are in power doesn’t mean on side was right the entire time, might as well just change political alignment every 20 years with that thought process.
(DIR) Post #A3un8Aqdn01bFGarlA by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:33:57.699662Z
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@a7 But I think the drift on a long term time scale is clearly leftward, and the gist of this argument was my implication that the cathedral is predominantly left leaning.A look back in history only confirms this opinion the further back you go.By "left" I mean progressive. The terms "left" and "right" are basically meaningless.
(DIR) Post #A3unDeV6y6pEex8TPE by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:34:57.117199Z
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@a7 In fact, I don't even think it's leftward if you consider what is left historically. But "progressive", most definitely dominates the idea space. Maybe it is just superior?
(DIR) Post #A3unK4T5KrgmvvFTVI by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:36:04.701814Z
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@lucky i think thats all the demonization of trump was, it wasn’t that he secretly was helping people or taking down the power structure he was just not helping the people opportune to the power structure he offered almost no change to the people actually fucked just as the current people don’t, he just offered pluses to a harkening thought of the past and people still with massive amounts of power albeit wanning, but those changes don’t help the actual underdog so easily dismissed to the masses, more just the distractions of the past.
(DIR) Post #A3unQHQE5PA8qXs800 by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:37:12.747161Z
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@lucky there is no actual progressive its a shuffling of cards
(DIR) Post #A3unfXPYv8jCmQpxIm by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:39:59.105922Z
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@lucky i think what progressive now actually means is, “how can we give the base a perceived sense of say and perceived sense of change while still maintaining power that provides the most wealth and control”its just what those were have changed over time in society, so the “progressive change” includes “more people” under the umbrella while pushing out acceptable losses and exchanges
(DIR) Post #A3unwCLMVG9uMXogfg by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:43:00.042428Z
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@a7 YES WE AGREE!THAT IS WHAT IT IS!PROGRESSIVISM HAS NO MORAL BASIS. IT IS A POWER BASIS. WHAT IS PROGESS. WHAT IS THE FUTURE. PEOPLE LATCH ONTO IT FOR POWER REASONS BECAUSE THEY SEE IT AS WHAT IS INEVITABLY NEXT!IN THE 1920S PROGRESSIVES WERE EUGENICIST! IT'S JUST ABOUT PROGESS "WHAT IS SEEN BY MOST AS GOOD AND THE FUTURE DIRECITON OF SOCIETY"
(DIR) Post #A3uoD9TWQAAiOCiXo0 by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:46:03.881614Z
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@a7 The only disagreement is that I think what is commonly considered "conservative" and "right wing" is not within the current progressive direction. So those who desire power will mostly be neoliberals, as that is the current center of progressiveness. Conservatives like Ted Cruise are in their own niche due to local circumstances. They are all psychopaths nonetheless.
(DIR) Post #A3uoFEK5MsH00IIKVU by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:46:25.793410Z
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@lucky but republicans and democrats dont represent either of these exchanges and most people you see on here bitching about progressiveness or “the left” dont even see this issue, they just say, left = democrat = progressive, which is an insane simplification of the issues at hand , political compass and all that shitconservativism in the american sense serves this same meaningless and meandering path, it didnt change with trump, going a step back doesnt change anything and theres nothing left wing about embracing the inevitable.
(DIR) Post #A3uoQR9pzO24zlqSWW by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:48:27.706321Z
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@lucky basically the two parties have each other because they deserve each other
(DIR) Post #A3uohAqDuF6XJWeS3s by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:51:29.314245Z
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@a7 I could explain further (not necessarily disagreing with your post) but I've passed drunk state.
(DIR) Post #A3uokY02GE8a0Tqjs8 by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:52:05.941249Z
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@lucky im gonna back track your ip and beat you up after 3 bottles of whiskey
(DIR) Post #A3uouDkAQVxC512XRI by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:53:50.849332Z
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@a7 I'm gonna leave your instance if you keep suggesting you track IPs (and this is the second time you have done so).I was gonna do it last time but forgave you.
(DIR) Post #A3up0xdCjKki8SzscS by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:55:03.519899Z
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@lucky you can if you want, but this goes back to my autism message, “backtrack your ip” even sounds like a meme. I dont have a desire to make my instance popular at this point. So ya fucking leave you cuck.
(DIR) Post #A3up3KRasroHT1hBQm by lucky@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:55:29.760795Z
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@a7 Gone.
(DIR) Post #A3up5DsaGJv1gcDtFA by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2021-02-04T01:55:50.002259Z
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@lucky :thumbsup: