Post A3rExrnhlwjjMLFp9k by nvi@chaos.social
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(DIR) Post #A3q7zsLrnj9SoIHfdI by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-01T19:34:07.256101Z
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"Do you use Windows, macOS or Linux?""It's complicated"
(DIR) Post #A3q88nJrsd8ToEbNnE by animeirl@social.homunyan.com
2021-02-01T19:35:42Z
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@quad lol same
(DIR) Post #A3q8A1O53rfBjJ9ouW by nilsding@pounced-on.me
2021-02-01T19:35:41Z
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@quad just say "Yes" smh
(DIR) Post #A3q8LBpIacbrI7DKPQ by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2021-02-01T19:38:00.295017Z
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@quad Meanwhile I'm often the kind that doesn't fits in those boxes:- Do you use PC or Apple?- OpenSolaris (at the time; technically they also had their own workstations)- Do you use Android or iOS?- SailfishOS / postmarketOS…
(DIR) Post #A3q8zoKupW3GJLN8HA by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2021-02-01T19:45:21.308003Z
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@quad >"It's complicated":gnujihad:
(DIR) Post #A3q9LhqNeKWgXtWvDc by PierreM@social.targaryen.house
2021-02-01T19:49:13Z
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@animeirl Easy answer :"Do you use Windows, macOS or Linux?""Yes"
(DIR) Post #A3q9Sh7MkOOUJxo6JF by aearil@soc.luciferi.st
2021-02-01T19:49:53.366326Z
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@quad (it's a trick, the surface runs linux, the thinkpad is a hackintosh, and the macbook runs windows :P)
(DIR) Post #A3q9xlG9Olog8wjJOi by o@gleasonator.com
2021-02-01T19:56:10.910322Z
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@quad >not using TempleOSshame
(DIR) Post #A3qASsakBhT1rQCUoC by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-01T20:01:48.536748Z
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@lanodan tbh I only carry the surface, which runs Linux
(DIR) Post #A3qI3QZk0tLTMc6dc0 by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-01T21:26:49.330093Z
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@o i prefer react os
(DIR) Post #A3qKSzIKGWGkBuHANk by wauz@muenchen.social
2021-02-01T21:53:51Z
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@quadYou remind me to clean windows soon...
(DIR) Post #A3qNleHguALKOSZKZE by Natsura@fedi.absturztau.be
2021-02-01T22:30:44.307535Z
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@quad do you play games on Xbox, Playstation, or a Nintendo system?
(DIR) Post #A3r4ACJgDpr8y0t5Zg by psiie@mstdn.social
2021-02-01T19:38:02Z
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@quad heh, I use linux on my microsoft surface XD. really throws ppl off.
(DIR) Post #A3r4ACm2WOXcNy9jmK by chebra@mstdn.io
2021-02-02T02:37:44Z
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@psiie @quad did you make the touchscreen work ok with linux? I've been trying to install ubuntu on my girlfriend's surface, but could not get touch working, and she is the kind of person who touches all the screens, even the inert ones.
(DIR) Post #A3r4ADDKsuNLkcvXKC by psiie@mstdn.social
2021-02-02T03:02:18Z
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@chebra @quad ah yes this was an issue. I use deepin os. It is a chinese based OS (english support). I don't know of political issues regarding the os (like privacy, FOSS, localizatuon issues) but damn it is an amazing touch-based os.Deepin does push their own app store, which has special builds of everything. I ignore this.Took some hacks to get touch support on firefox though. The default chrome worked great
(DIR) Post #A3r4ADh76CC9EyrJjs by psiie@mstdn.social
2021-02-02T03:03:12Z
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@chebra @quad there was a guide i followee that detailed how to install Linux on a surface. You have to build a custom kernel for max support. I can dig it up if your interested.
(DIR) Post #A3r4AE7LWfB8YL8Gcy by chebra@mstdn.io
2021-02-02T03:25:39Z
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@psiie @quad oh, yes please, a link to that kernel build guide would be great, if you can find it. Thanks a lot
(DIR) Post #A3r4AEWrzlaxpV4ePY by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T06:25:51.747351Z
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@chebra @psiie If you're installing Ubuntu you don't need to compile anything, they have repositories for distros based on Debian, Fedora and Arch: https://github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface/wiki/Installation-and-Setup
(DIR) Post #A3r4AHsxW62yEsQpl2 by psiie@mstdn.social
2021-02-02T03:04:36Z
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@chebra @quad ps: never did get secure boot working. Even though there are guides to install custom signed keys to the secure-boot thingy.So i get a bright red alert screen every boot. 🤷♂️
(DIR) Post #A3r4AJQJnYKF0d2zOS by psiie@mstdn.social
2021-02-02T03:06:25Z
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@chebra @quad hibernate abd sleep work great. I only hibernate (save to ramdisk) due to battery. It is manual and not automatic on keyboard-cover close.But all this is fine IMO.
(DIR) Post #A3r4AL2dmYZe1lz6lU by psiie@mstdn.social
2021-02-02T03:07:26Z
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@chebra @quad I'm away from my desktop atm
(DIR) Post #A3r4GBQaRGp3wryLLc by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T06:26:59.971704Z
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@chebra @psiie This being the relevant part for you.
(DIR) Post #A3r5YUfHkq0ymI8t16 by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T06:41:31.063096Z
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@psiie @chebra For Secure Boot you have to enter the BIOS and change the Secure Boot CA from "Microsoft" to "Microsoft & Third Party".After that, turn off secure boot, install the package with the key, run the command that your package manager prints when you install the package, reboot the computer, you'll get a blue BIOS screen, tell it to add the key.After that it should be okay. You can install kernels from the linux-surface repo and not really have to think about secure boot anymore.
(DIR) Post #A3rCqqNcSMKH19ZnF2 by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T07:49:22Z
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@quad I just had to reply with this :DAlthough the surface is running Linux....
(DIR) Post #A3rCqqoYqBsQMiBJEe by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:03:15.236439Z
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@nvi My 16" MBP runs macOS and bootcamps Windows for some rare gaming.My ThinkPad T480 currently has Linux Mint on itAnd the Surface Pro 7 runs Fedora.Is that a Surface Go or a Go 2? Also what model is the ThinkPad?
(DIR) Post #A3rDQ7vbClz3ZrIJKy by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T08:04:07Z
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@quad That's a Surface Go 2 and a T450s
(DIR) Post #A3rDQ8RVI9VLAoDn4C by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:09:34.453601Z
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@nvi I kinda regret buying a Pro 7 instead of the Go 2.The Pro 7 is more powerful, sure, but the Go 2's Linux support matured a lot faster. The Pro 7's touchscreen is still single-touch only with no pen support and very little is upstreamed
(DIR) Post #A3rDbJ0WLugn7nvWim by normandy@biribiri.dev
2021-02-02T08:11:40.386022Z
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@quad @nvi I still run Windows on my SP7 due to the lack of pen and multitouch on Linux. I do hope that comes around sooner or later.
(DIR) Post #A3rDoyfwk66A7Yp4Ns by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:14:07.603962Z
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@normandy @nvi I didn't even have a Type Cover. lmao.I want my keyboards US ANSI so I imported my Type Cover from amazon.com. Meant that it was borderline useless with Linux when I bought it a year ago since not even singletouch worked. And then I had to wait like a month for the american type cover to arrive.Apparently it's because the SP7 switched to some Intel touch thing and therefore most of the work from previous surface models didn't carry over. Kinda wish I knew that before I bought one.
(DIR) Post #A3rEDjApW0HJHZ4OUi by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T08:14:29Z
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@quad Jeah. Still, I’m going to sell both, the TP and the Surface since both kind of got replaced by that M1 MBA. Battery times are just not sufficient for my usecase.
(DIR) Post #A3rEDjcTrCOcfK0Taq by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:18:34.867535Z
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@nvi M1 laptops probably aren't much of an option for me since x86 virtualization is one of my main use-cases on my laptop.The T480 was my main laptop, but the SP7 kind of replaced it over time.The MBP I own just to lab with macOS. It's mostly just a living room coaster for my coffee mug. Maybe I shitpost from it once in a while if I'm too lazy to find my phone or other device. But generally it sits on my living room table without even a charge in the battery
(DIR) Post #A3rEN2lI3ZHodjZ9vs by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T08:17:09Z
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@quad @normandy I use a US layout but I don’t care what letters are printed on the keys. My trusty T61 had a french azerty layout but that never bothered me. But i tend to keep them german in case I want to resell it later. I couldn’t even boot the surface wo keyboard since it’s LUKS encrypted.
(DIR) Post #A3rEN3GUBaEwCUA4Ya by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:20:16.124613Z
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@nvi @normandy Letter printing doesn't matter much.But pretty much all terminal interfaces and programming languages are designed for english layouts like US and UK. Characters like [ ] and { } or $ and < > are awful to type on most international layouts.
(DIR) Post #A3rENmPaKbFyDjlTUG by normandy@biribiri.dev
2021-02-02T08:20:26.004185Z
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@quad @nvi It seems like they changed a lot on the inside compared to previous gens, enough to make it incompatible with the existing surface-linux stuff.I do kinda wish I got something else, but at least I have some sort of Windows machine so that I don't lose familiarity with it.
(DIR) Post #A3rEZlqYG3IxwX60Aq by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:22:33.721330Z
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@nvi @normandy On a Norwegian keyboard, $, [ ], { } and @ all require holding Alt Gr, while characters like < > are merged into a single key. So I just need my US or UK layout. And if I'm going that far, I'll just go for a US keyboard because of the longer enter and left shift keys. Less gymnastics for my pinkies
(DIR) Post #A3rEbNTdpmOgwR97Lc by normandy@biribiri.dev
2021-02-02T08:22:52.963949Z
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@quad @nvi I really find it strange that the other keyboard layouts didn't even bother with making those characters easy to use.
(DIR) Post #A3rEjXN4vpntwby1Mu by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:24:20.884521Z
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@normandy @nvi That's not surprising.Whoever designed those keyboards were tasked with making it easy to write french or whatever language it's for. Not to make it comfortable to program in C++.And even if they did, some other programming language would come along that's designed for US ANSI and be just as horrible to work with.
(DIR) Post #A3rExrnhlwjjMLFp9k by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T08:20:57Z
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@quad Since I am root on a Number of Virtualisation Clusters which includes dedicated ‘playground’ Hardware I don’t feel the need to run VMs locally on my machine anyway.
(DIR) Post #A3rExsODaBwZBaKz4K by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:26:55.329897Z
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@nvi I have a Proxmox cluster at home but I still virtualize when on the go once in a while. Even if I don't do that, when I'm on the move I'm more likely to want to for example play a game on my laptop. Both of which ARM Macs are pretty terrible at
(DIR) Post #A3rFKBxpUDBSGWdS5I by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T08:29:41Z
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@quad Kerbal Space Program runs fluently on Rosetta so I’m covered. As for everything else, I don’t play a lot on the go and I’m having too many VM’s running in the lab anyway to fit them onto a laptop. Once you start measuring RAM in TBs, doing it locally gets boring.
(DIR) Post #A3rFKCMdzx27VUFGlM by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:30:58.525480Z
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@nvi I'm waiting for the GPD Win 3 to ship in May so it can take over most of the gaming stuff
(DIR) Post #A3rGiKmqR0vSX7Zaym by notclacke@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-02-02T08:43:24.650372Z
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@quad @normandy @nvi I use https://eurkey.steffen.bruentjen.eu/ to get my occasional åäö without straying from my US layout.Actually if I'm on a 103-key equivalent I use se/fi layout even though it's slightly annoying, but on a 102-key equivalent that's plain unusable (no <|>), so then it's EurKey.
(DIR) Post #A3rGiL9t3LMDgaLztY by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:46:31.435771Z
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@notclacke @normandy @nvi It's really too clumsy to use for any kind of regular typing.I just switch layouts to Norwegian with a hotkey
(DIR) Post #A3rGtAewQdtWJD2lxQ by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T08:40:37Z
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@quad I only bought the surface because my order of the GDP (pro2 i think?) was placed right in the moment mhen Hongkong went into Covid-Shutdown and my order got lost and GDP simply went dark.
(DIR) Post #A3rGtB3OxhSbX4UJ5E by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:48:29.726123Z
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@nvi Might be too late now, but did you try pinging one of their direct E-mail addresses?From my understanding GPD are rather helpful, but also a pain in the ass to find the correct place to send your E-mail.Their official contact method tends to boil down to "Stalk their discord until you come across some random firstname@gpd.hk" E-mail address and if you just E-mail that one stuff gets fixed.
(DIR) Post #A3rGwX7rM6cGr8AnuS by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:49:07.467520Z
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@nvi afaik you usually get nowhere if you send to the e-mail addresses on their website. who knows if they even check their inbox
(DIR) Post #A3rH2cGl92k4XuEjce by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:50:12.583287Z
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@nvi It's also a case of "if you send an E-mail you never hear back, if you send a chat message on facebook it's fixed in a matter of hours"I dunno why chinese companies tend to suck ass at E-mail support.
(DIR) Post #A3rHL0HYbWkSEVNT8a by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T08:52:12Z
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@quad It's still HK. Usually there they act more like what you would expect from a Business Contact
(DIR) Post #A3rHL0gj5wshUZ9ZMu by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:53:30.277611Z
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@nvi well yeah, no matter how you contact them expect broken as fuck english too
(DIR) Post #A3rHcdKWg7Z4GEAm0m by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T08:55:38Z
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@quad Doing business in Germany, I am used to broken English :D
(DIR) Post #A3rHcdlT3x7DbmmI0O by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:56:42.464780Z
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@nvi Living in Norway I'm used to people using English because Norwegian is too broken
(DIR) Post #A3rHhNsNYzKjmMGxay by notclacke@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-02-02T08:51:27.200380Z
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@normandy @quad @nvi We inherit our national keyboard layouts from localized typewriters, not from anything primarily used by programmers.
(DIR) Post #A3rHhOOzbjQBPVX0Qi by normandy@biribiri.dev
2021-02-02T08:57:34.485253Z
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@notclacke @nvi @quad fair enough, I just find it's weird that with those characters being used more commonly, these layouts haven't adapted that well to them.Perhaps I'm kinda biased as programmer in an English speaking country that uses the US ANSI layout.
(DIR) Post #A3rHoIqQfVg6CXexcG by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T08:58:49.764019Z
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@normandy @notclacke @nvi You see the problem is that if they suddenly changed the layout of a keyboard, who many people do you think would be annoyed?If it happens it'd be because the majority of the world's population uses terminals and programming languages
(DIR) Post #A3rHv0gYaAxduOEwz2 by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T08:58:27Z
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@quad Just had a phonecall with a Callcenter in Ireland that barely understood my german but also refused to communicate in english because I'm German in their System. 🤦♀️
(DIR) Post #A3rHv12tF8pF1egmnI by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:00:01.824419Z
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@nvi Norwegian is just so broken that Norwegians can struggle to understand Norwegians.Everything can change with your dialect, including the syntax and grammatical rules
(DIR) Post #A3rHzGHsW65JSIiyAa by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:00:48.645411Z
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@nvi My favorite is probably this table from Wikipedia
(DIR) Post #A3rI5fdZBCK7oWvOam by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T08:59:53Z
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@quad @normandy @notclacke The majority of people looks at their fingers while typing anyway so they probably would adapt much faster than us.
(DIR) Post #A3rI5g6dR7ZlGgWbtw by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:01:57.306538Z
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@nvi @normandy @notclacke Doesn't stop them from being far more annoyed than us
(DIR) Post #A3rIEcKGrNf09PAK4O by notclacke@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-02-02T09:01:09.861308Z
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@normandy @nvi @quad Programmers:1. Are a minority2. Cope3. Or just switch to US layout =)There is zero market pressure on anyone to produce coder-friendly Scandinavian layouts. Maybe Dvorak layouts are friendlier as they're made by hobbyists anyway? I have never tried even Dvorak proper, much less "Svorak".
(DIR) Post #A3rIEcrEso21neaeSO by normandy@biribiri.dev
2021-02-02T09:03:34.617367Z
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@notclacke @nvi @quad yeah that's a good point
(DIR) Post #A3rIFIkH95PviDegQy by notclacke@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-02-02T09:01:59.091367Z
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@quad @nvi for real?
(DIR) Post #A3rIFJLqtNTValEh0K by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:03:42.578287Z
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@notclacke @nvi I've gone on plenty of rants about it before, but yes.Norwegian is so broken that even though our country only has like 5 million inhabitants, we have two written standards for our language and no spoken standard.In other words a "correct" way to write norwegian doesn't exist. Or rather there's two of them, so everyone just does their own thing.And there's no real spoken standard so spoken Norwegian is a plain free-for-all
(DIR) Post #A3rIOnA9QLUiekHeOu by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T09:02:09Z
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@quad Yeah. That's probably why the Swedes often refer to Norwegian al 'like Swedish but with aphasia'
(DIR) Post #A3rIOnZJulcxuo3kdE by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:05:24.172673Z
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@nvi I discussed it with a german a long time ago. From my understanding it's kind of the same as "Regular German" vs "Bavarian German" Except in Norway there's at least 50 different Bavarias
(DIR) Post #A3rIWS7lWop5itox84 by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:06:48.545630Z
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@nvi But they didn't speak Norwegian and I don't speak German so I don't know how accurate that is.But in Norway you can hop in your car, drive for an hour and when you get out, suddenly you don't even have the same word for "Me" anymore and even the grammatical syntax might have changed slightly
(DIR) Post #A3rIa2ZmSR8ne4dScK by notclacke@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-02-02T09:06:17.235198Z
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@quad @nvi I love your irregularly recurring rants about this, but this is the first time I heard it being to bad that people just skip Norwegian altogether. :-D
(DIR) Post #A3rIa2zeuDqCwKk7xA by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:07:27.926396Z
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@notclacke @nvi Well it's not like they skip Norwegian.More like if there's words the other person doesn't get or some sentence is too messy to understand they'll pull out English instead
(DIR) Post #A3rIgCUKW9l67n1V9k by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T09:07:12Z
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@quad The difference is that there is a standard for written and spoken German.But I remember working for a lower Bavarian Company where people refused to use common German and I literally had no Idea what my supervisors were talking about all day.
(DIR) Post #A3rIgCy6jRZtc8xHZQ by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:08:33.645705Z
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@nvi Yeah imagine if every single town in Germany had the same attitude as that Bavarian company.That's essentially how Norwegian works.It's been naturally "flattening" for a number of years thanks to TV, radio and now the internet. But it's still gonna take a while before Norwegian "fixes itself"
(DIR) Post #A3rIsPPYIQjVgBbsJ6 by notclacke@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-02-02T09:08:56.867556Z
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@quad @nvi That's enough to amaze me. I've never once switched to English in Sweden speaking to a Sweden-born, not even in Skåne.
(DIR) Post #A3rIsPu2T57TCjsDpI by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:10:45.095478Z
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@notclacke @nvi I don't know how bad Skåne is but there's probably plenty of places in Norway that's worse from someone who grew up in Oslo.
(DIR) Post #A3rIvN2tXzwHDCQNXM by notclacke@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-02-02T09:10:11.645249Z
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@quad @nvi The destruction of Swedish dialects and languages is so sad. Norway, please don't fix yourself.
(DIR) Post #A3rIvNQI90ecNlN40O by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:11:19.277093Z
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@notclacke @nvi I don't even know if we can fix it. It's so broken that even we have no idea what the fuck we're doing anymore
(DIR) Post #A3rJ4zpkhh9Y7JroR6 by eal@social.sakamoto.gq
2021-02-02T09:13:02.428618Z
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@notclacke @quad @nvi We are keeping the eastern version alive, I can talk in swedish with fennoswedes but actual swedes usually can't understand me.
(DIR) Post #A3rJBl4ny99kNL8FZQ by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T09:11:30Z
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@quad @notclacke At least they have an education in English language.In Germany, most people over 40 and many people without high education never learned how english actually sounds (or get's written). We have translations for everything (even dubbed movies, literally all of them) and if there is no german translation of something people get confused and angry.
(DIR) Post #A3rJBljZWZlYPmCo76 by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:14:15.107812Z
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@nvi @notclacke People here are probably just naturally good at learning different languages since we're already used to learning a billion different dialects.When have you ever seen a language so broken that part of it was deprecated/discontinued?
(DIR) Post #A3rJgwU9bKzIjirHwu by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T09:14:48Z
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@notclacke @quad The upside is, for people like me, who know english and german it takes only a couple of weeks to roughly understand what People are talking about in Sweden (The grammar is easy and the vocabulary is very close to german). Except when I was in the middle of nowhere in Jämtland (I don't know the spelling) and tried to get a contractor.
(DIR) Post #A3rJgww9vDOC8ZxebI by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:19:54.213683Z
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@nvi @notclacke I can usually guess a bunch of german.It's not too uncommon for us to for example read a german instruction manual if we lost the one that contains Norwegian or English
(DIR) Post #A3rJtQ8HCRNwA0ZkJ6 by notclacke@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-02-02T09:16:03.683989Z
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@eal @nvi @quad Åland Swedes are funny, they sound a bit like they're from Gävle but then they use some of the words all "wrong". :-D
(DIR) Post #A3rJtQazTgLzb40g40 by notclacke@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-02-02T09:20:57.970320Z
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@eal @nvi @quad "You can turn back here.""Turn back? Did I make a wrong turn somewhere?""No, just turn back left here.""Oh, you mean turn.""vända" vs "svänga"And then they have some Finnish imports of course, and call a "papperskorg" a "roskis".
(DIR) Post #A3rJvQnhgcCYoOua5w by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:22:31.526100Z
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@notclacke @eal @nvi The trademark of a Finn is when they keep mixing up pronounciations of U, O and Å since they're pretty much "rotated" in Finnish
(DIR) Post #A3rKDz2L8VDeCobVZI by nvi@chaos.social
2021-02-02T09:21:27Z
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@quad @notclacke Same for me with Swedish or Danish texts. If it's not poetry or something sophisticated we usually understand what's meant
(DIR) Post #A3rKDzV3PkBhds2RKC by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:25:51.539344Z
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@nvi @notclacke but not norwegian texts :thonking:
(DIR) Post #A3rKGBU1paAzO4bXbk by eal@social.sakamoto.gq
2021-02-02T09:26:15.959682Z
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@notclacke @nvi @quad Yeah, words are mixed and matched irrationally. I've heard some funny ones like "jag köpte tennismaila som hade rakennevika", and my cousins didn't even understand the difference between finnish and swedish before they went to school.
(DIR) Post #A3rKROI0YgWAI3KFrU by newt@stereophonic.space
2021-02-02T09:28:18.960419Z
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@eal @notclacke @nvi @quad >my cousins didn't even understand the difference between finnish and swedish before they went to school.I still don't understand :comfywat:
(DIR) Post #A3rKUDYiuUs1sZUZiC by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T09:28:48.776301Z
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@newt @eal @notclacke @nvi probably just the amount of koskenkorva involved
(DIR) Post #A3rKaOV58yWtYBjZi4 by eal@social.sakamoto.gq
2021-02-02T09:29:55.011371Z
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@newt @notclacke @nvi @quad Billingual family, parents spoke both and so they learned words without knowing what language they belong to.
(DIR) Post #A3rKjUol1dO3kXHFgG by newt@stereophonic.space
2021-02-02T09:31:34.463195Z
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@eal @notclacke @nvi @quad ahahahah! Funny, I was the same as a kid except the languages were different and there were three of them. Sometimes I switched from one language to another without even realizing it and then had to see everyone look at me strange.
(DIR) Post #A3rKlullVa7Yoh1yqG by 9vVlQ7B44mOHOY3BhY.kino@springbo.cc
2021-02-02T09:32:01.419338Z
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@nvi @quad loving my m1 mbp; best machine i've ever owned
(DIR) Post #A3rRH1rbmWCLWMz3Lc by notclacke@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-02-02T10:42:20.420144Z
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@eal @newt @nvi @quad This is why I've consistently been speaking Swedish to our child and as he picked up Canto his mother has been speaking Canto to him when possible.Lately we're sometimes diluting both languages with more and more English, but I generally teach him the Swedish word when he can't find it.He knows in which folder all the words go at least, he just doesn't know all the words he needs in all three languages.
(DIR) Post #A3rV5KxtKxal6XbRi4 by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T11:27:34.540889Z
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@notclacke @eal @newt @nvi Apparently my dad tried speaking Finnish to me when I was a kid but I never picked it up.Maybe because he wasn't home that often
(DIR) Post #A3rWy5lRedvHqESDpo by notclacke@pleroma.soykaf.com
2021-02-02T11:36:45.713007Z
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@quad @eal @newt @nvi oh
(DIR) Post #A3rWy6ErtFSVJUDihE by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-02T11:48:39.569447Z
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@notclacke @eal @newt @nvi Kinda sucks, wish I could speak Finnish.I tried to learn it at one point but it's such a hellish language to tame. I can barely understand a few words of it
(DIR) Post #A3vCyi1gB22s3cu7fs by psiie@mstdn.social
2021-02-04T03:22:20Z
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@quad @chebra for me this never worked. After solving keyboard issues (the native keyboard refused to work when the "press enter to add key". Even though microsoft designed this very menu and keyboard), the key added never functioned properly. Oh well. Wasnt worth the effort fighting it. 🤷♂️
(DIR) Post #A3vCyiXEHjHZdTfJqq by psiie@mstdn.social
2021-02-04T03:25:27Z
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@quad @chebra eg: after installing the package and rebooting, the "bios" has a unavoidable screen where I must interupt the countdown by pressing any key [to install the secureboot key]It was suprirsing that the keyboard that came with the computer would not be recognized on this particular menu screen. Works in regular bios, but not when I had to interupt the countdown to install the keyOddFinally got it to work by replugging it a few times in the 5 second countdown
(DIR) Post #A3vCyixSiCGYwpwGjw by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-04T06:23:32.318335Z
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@psiie @chebra Fair enough, as I ordered mine without a type cover and imported that from the US, I had a regular keyboard connected to the USB port when I set up secure boot.That said I simply installed the package, shut down as it told me to and hit "Enroll key from disk", entered the password required, then hit reboot, and after that I enabled secure boot without issue
(DIR) Post #A3vCymgaqr9KVg4r0C by psiie@mstdn.social
2021-02-04T03:25:38Z
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@quad @chebra but the added key never worked as intended.
(DIR) Post #A3vD6O4IGOy2TZmvpo by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-04T06:24:57.834424Z
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@psiie @chebra HOWEVERdid you change Secure Boot from "Microsoft" to "Microsoft & 3rd party" in the UEFI? If you don't do that, the Surface ignores any manually added keys. Not sure if the linux-surface repo documents that very well, but most laptops ignore custom secure boot keys unless you also tell them not to
(DIR) Post #A3vDHFsD4XmSFHJnZg by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-04T06:26:56.133941Z
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@chebra @psiie Basically the full chain of instructions is:- Install package- Package outputs instructions to set enrollment password, follow these- Reboot machine- Hit key to interrupt- "Enroll key" and enter password- Enter UEFI, enable Secure Boot and tell it to use 3rd party keys- Secure boot should now be working
(DIR) Post #A4SXPBOOnlNlXx3rA8 by psiie@mstdn.social
2021-02-20T01:11:37Z
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@quad @chebra i added the key again, but it did not work. I dont have an option to use 3rd party keys. Note the version. This is a surface pro 1 running bios(?) v.2.15.1226
(DIR) Post #A4SXPBtEx63J5bUUEa by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-20T08:18:03.835967Z
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@psiie @chebra According to google, older surface models only ask when you hit "Install default secure boot keys". But usually, Microsoft & 3rd party should also be default on those models
(DIR) Post #A4SXVwp9Mik8OFndWy by quad@weeaboo.space
2021-02-20T08:19:20.156992Z
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@psiie @chebra I guess it might only affect default keys on older models. So if you install the key without any error, then it seems odd that it won't work